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moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Ann Byrne
 

Since I'm not in a meeting either, it might be ctrl+f2, but I don't think so. it is a Zoom command to identify the speaker. JAWS is using the command to replay chats, so the Zoom keystroke is unavailable without JAWS passthrough.

At 11:31 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
Since I'm not in a meeting and I don't have all the keystrokes memorized since I use zoom about once a month, what does control+2 do?



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2.
At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on
Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get "unknown script
call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on
Monday?











moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Edward Green
 

Hi Bill,

 

Yes it does.

 

You do all that through the server addresses.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. This only configures the VPN native to Windows. It doesn't configure the third-party VPN that is inaccessible. Besides that, the VPN that is native to Windows doesn't unblock streams that are blocked from the user's country of network origin.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 2:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Bill,

 

Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.

 

Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.

 

From the next list, press enter on VVPN.

 

Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you press the Windows key will probably get you there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Bill White
 

Hi, Ed. This only configures the VPN native to Windows. It doesn't configure the third-party VPN that is inaccessible. Besides that, the VPN that is native to Windows doesn't unblock streams that are blocked from the user's country of network origin.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 2:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Bill,

 

Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.

 

Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.

 

From the next list, press enter on VVPN.

 

Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you press the Windows key will probably get you there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Richard Turner
 

Thanks David.
So, the Jaws script is just invoking that function without having to press the bypass key.
Or, it is pressing bypass and control+2 for you.


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

The keystroke is designed to announce the name of the person currently speaking in the Zoom Meeting.
As a previous poster noted what you will actually hear is the name of the login name - so if you are using another person's account / device this is what will be announced.


On 17 Jul 2021, at 17:31, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

Since I'm not in a meeting and I don't have all the keystrokes memorized since I use zoom about once a month, what does control+2 do?



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2.
At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on
Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get "unknown
script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support
on Monday?













moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

David Griffith
 

The keystroke is designed to announce the name of the person currently speaking in the Zoom Meeting.
As a previous poster noted what you will actually hear is the name of the login name - so if you are using another person’s account / device this is what will be announced.

On 17 Jul 2021, at 17:31, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

Since I'm not in a meeting and I don't have all the keystrokes memorized since I use zoom about once a month, what does control+2 do?



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2.
At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on
Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get "unknown script
call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on
Monday?













moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Richard Turner
 

Since I'm not in a meeting and I don't have all the keystrokes memorized since I use zoom about once a month, what does control+2 do?



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2.
At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on
Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get "unknown script
call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on
Monday?




moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

David Griffith
 

You have almost certainly tried this already but forcing Jaws to restart - that is Jaws key windows F4 normally clears script errors for me. Unfortunately forcing Jaws to restart in this mode is pretty slow.
David Griffith

On 17 Jul 2021, at 17:19, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
"unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday?





moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Ann Byrne
 

Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2.

At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
"unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday?




moderated cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Mario
 

I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
"unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday?


moderated Re: jaws and vpn's

David Diamond
 

I use and have been using for years, private internet access.  Naturally you put all 3 words together when doing a search.  I believe the website is privateinternetaccess.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob
Sent: July 17, 2021 4:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and vpn's

 

When you find the VPN provider you prefer then search their website and you'll find guides on how to manually configure VPN for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android etc. Generally there are 2 steps you need to do. Configure the connection to the server and install a certificate for the encryption. It works fine but you'll miss some functions included in the apps from the provider. It's functions like kill switch, easy server switching and exceptions for apps you prefer to by pass the VPN connection and more. It's also possible to set up VPN on some routers so that all devices connected to the router will go through VPN. That way there will be no need to configure VPN on every single device. Only exception for that will ofcourse be devices like laptops that'll be used on other wifi and cell phones which will also use there own mobile connection when leaving the home network. Many Providers give a free trial so if you prefer VPN via the provieded app then try it before make your final choice. I use NordVPN and last time I check the Windows app wasn't accessible but it works fine on Mac, Android and iOS. I guess the easiest way to use VPN on low technical knowledge will be via the app solution in case it's accessibble with a screen reader.

 

OZ0TE Jacob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: jaws and vpn's

Jacob
 

When you find the VPN provider you prefer then search their website and you'll find guides on how to manually configure VPN for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android etc. Generally there are 2 steps you need to do. Configure the connection to the server and install a certificate for the encryption. It works fine but you'll miss some functions included in the apps from the provider. It's functions like kill switch, easy server switching and exceptions for apps you prefer to by pass the VPN connection and more. It's also possible to set up VPN on some routers so that all devices connected to the router will go through VPN. That way there will be no need to configure VPN on every single device. Only exception for that will ofcourse be devices like laptops that'll be used on other wifi and cell phones which will also use there own mobile connection when leaving the home network. Many Providers give a free trial so if you prefer VPN via the provieded app then try it before make your final choice. I use NordVPN and last time I check the Windows app wasn't accessible but it works fine on Mac, Android and iOS. I guess the easiest way to use VPN on low technical knowledge will be via the app solution in case it's accessibble with a screen reader.


OZ0TE Jacob


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Edward Green
 

Hi Jed,

In terms of setting up a VPN, you can either install the client provided or key the settings in manually.

Most people prefer the clients as you just tend to click on the location you want to connect to and you’re done. The problem is of course if the software is or becomes inaccessible.

Setting a connection up manually involves keying in a username, a couple of passwords and the address of the server you want to connect to.

It's a bit more work, but it's a one-time job. With my provider, I’ve set up five or six countries I want to be able to appear as though I’m in. Whenever I want to connect now, I just choose the correct one from the list.

Cheers,

Ed

On 17 July 2021 11:29:04 "Jed Barton" <jedbarton@...> wrote:

How is surfshark?  What are we talking for a plan?  Never set up a
vpn, so just curious what's involved.
Cheers,

Jed

On 7/17/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.

Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.

From the next list, press enter on VVPN.

Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you
press the Windows key will probably get you there.

Cheers,

Ed

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN
that isn't JAWS accessible?

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings,
then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an
email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to
care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether
they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io"
<stewartross=sky.com@groups.io <mailto:stewartross=sky.com@groups.io> >
wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew









moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Jed Barton
 

How is surfshark? What are we talking for a plan? Never set up a
vpn, so just curious what's involved.
Cheers,

Jed

On 7/17/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bill,



Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.



Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.



From the next list, press enter on VVPN.



Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you
press the Windows key will probably get you there.



Cheers,



Ed



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's



Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN
that isn't JAWS accessible?



Bill White



billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's



Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings,
then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an
email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to
care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether
they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io"
<stewartross=sky.com@groups.io <mailto:stewartross=sky.com@groups.io> >
wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew









moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Edward Green
 

Hi Bill,

 

Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.

 

Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.

 

From the next list, press enter on VVPN.

 

Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you press the Windows key will probably get you there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Richard/all,

This is very useful indeed and I shall have a look at it and further behaviour.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Σάββατο, 17 Ιουλίου 2021 01:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

I just made an interesting fdiscovery I think.

I launched BBC radio 3, opened Outlook, word, and Excel.

I was alt-tabbing between them just fine.

So, to check that my settings had held from the other day, I tapped the Windows key and wrote “alt-“ I only had to write as far as the dash for Windows to offer Determine what alt-tab does in windows and I hit enter on that and found that it said, the last 5 open windows in Edge again.

That made no sense to me as I had changed that I thought to Open Windows only…

So I changed it again.

I checked and it was back to the 5 windows nonsense.

 

I searched for that setting again and found there is also a setting for Virtual desktop.

Once I got both set to the same Open Windows only; the setting has stuck and works fine.

 

That is as clear as I can be.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

I will ask folks on a different forum to figure out if this is unique to JAWS.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Bill White
 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

Cher
 

Thanks All- exactly what I needed.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

 

You don’t have to resubscribe.

All users from the Win10 group are still intack as they just rename the group.

 

 

From: Cher

Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 7:59 AM

Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

 

I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉

 

Cher

 


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Richard Turner
 

I just made an interesting fdiscovery I think.

I launched BBC radio 3, opened Outlook, word, and Excel.

I was alt-tabbing between them just fine.

So, to check that my settings had held from the other day, I tapped the Windows key and wrote “alt-“ I only had to write as far as the dash for Windows to offer Determine what alt-tab does in windows and I hit enter on that and found that it said, the last 5 open windows in Edge again.

That made no sense to me as I had changed that I thought to Open Windows only…

So I changed it again.

I checked and it was back to the 5 windows nonsense.

 

I searched for that setting again and found there is also a setting for Virtual desktop.

Once I got both set to the same Open Windows only; the setting has stuck and works fine.

 

That is as clear as I can be.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

I will ask folks on a different forum to figure out if this is unique to JAWS.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

I will ask folks on a different forum to figure out if this is unique to JAWS.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide

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