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preventing the jaws ilm auto activation
Shankar.C <shankar.c@...>
Hello all, greetings. Hope everyone is doing good at this tough time. I’m using the jaws 2021 internet license and windows 10 on my dell machine, and purchased the jaws annual subscription recently. After reinstalling the jaws, the screen reader is getting activated with ilm automatically. I also deleted the fs folder from the program files and programme data. Also deleted the registry key from the registry editor. So, can someone tell me how to prevent the automatic activation with the ilm?
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Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
Vaughan Dodd
My dealer explained that the website is primarily just for the ,us. So dealers vary in how proactive they are. We do not owe any loyalty to visor to and I don't have any loyalty to them.
Vaughan.
Vaughan Dodd
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 2:27:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale Vaughan, all this flowery talk about subscriptions verses SMA, is, nice for Americans. However, you and I could never take advantage of any of it because we do not live in the U S. The explanation seemed to be from Visparo and Freedom before that was, they are working on making the subscription available to ones outside the U S. However, With the expediency that they seem to be moving on this venture, 2025 is not an unreasonable year as to when they may or may not have subscriptions available to non U S citizens. Especially when you factor in that they’ve been working on this query for years litteraryly.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd
I know that my reply to this is coming late, and maybe things have moved on.
I live in New Zealand, and my dealer has advised that there is no advice regarding this. I have purchased my SMA feeling a bit pressured by the discussion on the list. (Nobody’s fault though) as it is Freedom Scientific Vispero sparked speculation.
It is possible to imagine a period in my computer usage behaviour beyond JAWS so two years of license ownership suffices for me at present.
Vaughan.
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
David, I am not Richard, but Eric is at the NFB Convention this week and I am sorry to say but the response hasn’t changed much. “They are still working on making the subscription model available outside of the U.S>”. Regards,
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Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
David Diamond
Vaughan, all this flowery talk about subscriptions verses SMA, is, nice for Americans. However, you and I could never take advantage of any of it because we do not live in the U S. The explanation seemed to be from Visparo and Freedom before that was, they are working on making the subscription available to ones outside the U S. However, With the expediency that they seem to be moving on this venture, 2025 is not an unreasonable year as to when they may or may not have subscriptions available to non U S citizens. Especially when you factor in that they’ve been working on this query for years litteraryly.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd
Sent: July 17, 2021 3:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
I know that my reply to this is coming late, and maybe things have moved on.
I live in New Zealand, and my dealer has advised that there is no advice regarding this. I have purchased my SMA feeling a bit pressured by the discussion on the list. (Nobody’s fault though) as it is Freedom Scientific Vispero sparked speculation.
It is possible to imagine a period in my computer usage behaviour beyond JAWS so two years of license ownership suffices for me at present.
Vaughan.
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
David, I am not Richard, but Eric is at the NFB Convention this week and I am sorry to say but the response hasn’t changed much. “They are still working on making the subscription model available outside of the U.S>”. Regards,
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Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
Loy
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IN response to Gerald’s statement below, I wrote Eric Damery directly on Sunday, July 4, and received a response today. Here is my question to him:
Good morning, or afternoon; whenever you read this, On one of the Jaws lists, the issue of to SMA or not to SMA has been coming up because of the sale.
It is being said that the SMA is going to be faded out and everyone wil be forced into the annual license.
Is that true?
Here is his response:
Hi Richard,
Not at all. There are currently two options and I expect that to continue.
If you are in ILM and current, maintaining a two year SMA is an option today. $150 is retail and you can get it during the show for $120. Pretty good deal. For those who have let their license lapse, or don't own one, than paying annually with the Portal solution will likely be less expensive and thousands of customers have gone that direction.
Eric
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
Eventually, the SMA option is expected to be phased out, and all JAWS users will be switched to the annual subscription option, which will be more profitable for Freedom Scientific.
Gerald
On 7/4/2021 9:13 AM, Marie wrote:
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Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
Vaughan Dodd
I know that my reply to this is coming late, and maybe things have moved on.
I live in New Zealand, and my dealer has advised that there is no advice regarding this. I have purchased my SMA feeling a bit pressured by the discussion on the list. (Nobody’s fault though) as it is Freedom Scientific Vispero sparked speculation.
It is possible to imagine a period in my computer usage behaviour beyond JAWS so two years of license ownership suffices for me at present.
Vaughan.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2021 7:58 am To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
David, I am not Richard, but Eric is at the NFB Convention this week and I am sorry to say but the response hasn’t changed much. “They are still working on making the subscription model available outside of the U.S>”. Regards,
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
Mario
Jonathan, I did try insert+control+escape to reeinitialize the scripts, but it didn't work. I still recieved the "unknown script call" message. I looked at the script by pressing insert+numrow 0 and the actual script is not there, but when I pressed control+l to get a list of the scripts, the ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker was the last listed. and when I pressed the ok button, I recieved
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"Script Not Found dialog ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker is located in the documentation file (jsd) but not in the script file (jss). Do you want to remove it from the documentation file?" of course I pressed the no button, but the strange thing is there is no documentation file with the name ZoomSoftware.JSD to be found anywhere.
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From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io [mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io] Subject: cannot identify speaker using Zoom Date: Saturday, July 17, 2021, 3:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io There is a simpler way then completely restarting JAWS. You can type I believe insert+control+escape to reload the scripts for the current application. On Jul 17, 2021, at 12:19, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote: I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get "unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker". any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday? .
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
Cohn, Jonathan
There is a simpler way then completely restarting JAWS. You can type I believe insert+control+escape to reload the scripts for the current application.
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On Jul 17, 2021, at 12:19, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
Ann Byrne
Since I'm not in a meeting either, it might be ctrl+f2, but I don't think so. it is a Zoom command to identify the speaker. JAWS is using the command to replay chats, so the Zoom keystroke is unavailable without JAWS passthrough.
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At 11:31 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
Since I'm not in a meeting and I don't have all the keystrokes memorized since I use zoom about once a month, what does control+2 do?
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Re: re jaws and vpn's
Edward Green
Hi Bill,
Yes it does.
You do all that through the server addresses.
Cheers,
Ed
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's
Hi, Ed. This only configures the VPN native to Windows. It doesn't configure the third-party VPN that is inaccessible. Besides that, the VPN that is native to Windows doesn't unblock streams that are blocked from the user's country of network origin.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi Bill,
Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.
Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.
From the next list, press enter on VVPN.
Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you press the Windows key will probably get you there.
Cheers,
Ed
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi Stew, As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows. This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update. Cheers, Ed On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:
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Re: re jaws and vpn's
Bill White
Hi, Ed. This only configures the VPN native to Windows. It doesn't configure the third-party VPN that is inaccessible. Besides that, the VPN that is native to Windows doesn't unblock streams that are blocked from the user's country of network origin.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 2:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's
Hi Bill,
Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.
Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.
From the next list, press enter on VVPN.
Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you press the Windows key will probably get you there.
Cheers,
Ed
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Hi Stew, As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows. This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update. Cheers, Ed On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Thanks David.
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So, the Jaws script is just invoking that function without having to press the bypass key. Or, it is pressing bypass and control+2 for you. Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:37 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom The keystroke is designed to announce the name of the person currently speaking in the Zoom Meeting. As a previous poster noted what you will actually hear is the name of the login name - so if you are using another person's account / device this is what will be announced. On 17 Jul 2021, at 17:31, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
David Griffith
The keystroke is designed to announce the name of the person currently speaking in the Zoom Meeting.
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As a previous poster noted what you will actually hear is the name of the login name - so if you are using another person’s account / device this is what will be announced.
On 17 Jul 2021, at 17:31, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Since I'm not in a meeting and I don't have all the keystrokes memorized since I use zoom about once a month, what does control+2 do?
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Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 9:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2. At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote: I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
David Griffith
You have almost certainly tried this already but forcing Jaws to restart - that is Jaws key windows F4 normally clears script errors for me. Unfortunately forcing Jaws to restart in this mode is pretty slow.
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David Griffith
On 17 Jul 2021, at 17:19, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom
Ann Byrne
Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2.
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At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
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cannot identify speaker using Zoom
Mario
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
"unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker". any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday?
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Re: jaws and vpn's
David Diamond
I use and have been using for years, private internet access. Naturally you put all 3 words together when doing a search. I believe the website is privateinternetaccess.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jacob
Sent: July 17, 2021 4:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws and vpn's
When you find the VPN provider you prefer then search their website and you'll find guides on how to manually configure VPN for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android etc. Generally there are 2 steps you need to do. Configure the connection to the server and install a certificate for the encryption. It works fine but you'll miss some functions included in the apps from the provider. It's functions like kill switch, easy server switching and exceptions for apps you prefer to by pass the VPN connection and more. It's also possible to set up VPN on some routers so that all devices connected to the router will go through VPN. That way there will be no need to configure VPN on every single device. Only exception for that will ofcourse be devices like laptops that'll be used on other wifi and cell phones which will also use there own mobile connection when leaving the home network. Many Providers give a free trial so if you prefer VPN via the provieded app then try it before make your final choice. I use NordVPN and last time I check the Windows app wasn't accessible but it works fine on Mac, Android and iOS. I guess the easiest way to use VPN on low technical knowledge will be via the app solution in case it's accessibble with a screen reader.
OZ0TE Jacob
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
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Re: jaws and vpn's
Jacob
When you find the VPN provider you prefer
then search their website and you'll find guides on how to
manually configure VPN for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android etc.
Generally there are 2 steps you need to do. Configure the
connection to the server and install a certificate for the
encryption. It works fine but you'll miss some functions
included in the apps from the provider. It's functions like
kill switch, easy server switching and exceptions for apps you
prefer to by pass the VPN connection and more. It's also
possible to set up VPN on some routers so that all devices
connected to the router will go through VPN. That way there
will be no need to configure VPN on every single device. Only
exception for that will ofcourse be devices like laptops
that'll be used on other wifi and cell phones which will also
use there own mobile connection when leaving the home network.
Many Providers give a free trial so if you prefer VPN via the
provieded app then try it before make your final choice. I use
NordVPN and last time I check the Windows app wasn't
accessible but it works fine on Mac, Android and iOS. I guess
the easiest way to use VPN on low technical knowledge will be
via the app solution in case it's accessibble with a screen
reader.
OZ0TE Jacob
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
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Re: re jaws and vpn's
Edward Green
Hi Jed, In terms of setting up a VPN, you can either install the client provided or key the settings in manually. Most people prefer the clients as you just tend to click on the location you want to connect to and you’re done. The problem is of course if the software is or becomes inaccessible. Setting a connection up manually involves keying in a username, a couple of passwords and the address of the server you want to connect to. It's a bit more work, but it's a one-time job. With my provider, I’ve set up five or six countries I want to be able to appear as though I’m in. Whenever I want to connect now, I just choose the correct one from the list. Cheers, Ed
On 17 July 2021 11:29:04 "Jed Barton" <jedbarton@...> wrote:
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Re: re jaws and vpn's
Jed Barton
How is surfshark? What are we talking for a plan? Never set up a
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vpn, so just curious what's involved. Cheers, Jed
On 7/17/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bill,
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