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moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

David Griffith
 

You have almost certainly tried this already but forcing Jaws to restart - that is Jaws key windows F4 normally clears script errors for me. Unfortunately forcing Jaws to restart in this mode is pretty slow.
David Griffith

On 17 Jul 2021, at 17:19, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
"unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday?





moderated Re: cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Ann Byrne
 

Can't fix the script; but press insert+3 (passthrough) then ctrl+2.

At 11:19 AM 7/17/2021, you wrote:
I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
"unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday?




moderated cannot identify speaker using Zoom

Mario
 

I'm using the latest versions of JAWS 2020 with the Zoom client on Windows 10 20H2, and when I press control+shift+t I get
"unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker".

any suggestions on how to fix this issue aside of calling FS support on Monday?


moderated Re: jaws and vpn's

David Diamond
 

I use and have been using for years, private internet access.  Naturally you put all 3 words together when doing a search.  I believe the website is privateinternetaccess.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob
Sent: July 17, 2021 4:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and vpn's

 

When you find the VPN provider you prefer then search their website and you'll find guides on how to manually configure VPN for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android etc. Generally there are 2 steps you need to do. Configure the connection to the server and install a certificate for the encryption. It works fine but you'll miss some functions included in the apps from the provider. It's functions like kill switch, easy server switching and exceptions for apps you prefer to by pass the VPN connection and more. It's also possible to set up VPN on some routers so that all devices connected to the router will go through VPN. That way there will be no need to configure VPN on every single device. Only exception for that will ofcourse be devices like laptops that'll be used on other wifi and cell phones which will also use there own mobile connection when leaving the home network. Many Providers give a free trial so if you prefer VPN via the provieded app then try it before make your final choice. I use NordVPN and last time I check the Windows app wasn't accessible but it works fine on Mac, Android and iOS. I guess the easiest way to use VPN on low technical knowledge will be via the app solution in case it's accessibble with a screen reader.

 

OZ0TE Jacob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: jaws and vpn's

Jacob
 

When you find the VPN provider you prefer then search their website and you'll find guides on how to manually configure VPN for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android etc. Generally there are 2 steps you need to do. Configure the connection to the server and install a certificate for the encryption. It works fine but you'll miss some functions included in the apps from the provider. It's functions like kill switch, easy server switching and exceptions for apps you prefer to by pass the VPN connection and more. It's also possible to set up VPN on some routers so that all devices connected to the router will go through VPN. That way there will be no need to configure VPN on every single device. Only exception for that will ofcourse be devices like laptops that'll be used on other wifi and cell phones which will also use there own mobile connection when leaving the home network. Many Providers give a free trial so if you prefer VPN via the provieded app then try it before make your final choice. I use NordVPN and last time I check the Windows app wasn't accessible but it works fine on Mac, Android and iOS. I guess the easiest way to use VPN on low technical knowledge will be via the app solution in case it's accessibble with a screen reader.


OZ0TE Jacob


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Edward Green
 

Hi Jed,

In terms of setting up a VPN, you can either install the client provided or key the settings in manually.

Most people prefer the clients as you just tend to click on the location you want to connect to and you’re done. The problem is of course if the software is or becomes inaccessible.

Setting a connection up manually involves keying in a username, a couple of passwords and the address of the server you want to connect to.

It's a bit more work, but it's a one-time job. With my provider, I’ve set up five or six countries I want to be able to appear as though I’m in. Whenever I want to connect now, I just choose the correct one from the list.

Cheers,

Ed

On 17 July 2021 11:29:04 "Jed Barton" <jedbarton@...> wrote:

How is surfshark?  What are we talking for a plan?  Never set up a
vpn, so just curious what's involved.
Cheers,

Jed

On 7/17/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.

Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.

From the next list, press enter on VVPN.

Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you
press the Windows key will probably get you there.

Cheers,

Ed

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN
that isn't JAWS accessible?

Bill White

billwhite92701@... <mailto:billwhite92701@...>

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings,
then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an
email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to
care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether
they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io"
<stewartross=sky.com@groups.io <mailto:stewartross=sky.com@groups.io> >
wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew









moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Jed Barton
 

How is surfshark? What are we talking for a plan? Never set up a
vpn, so just curious what's involved.
Cheers,

Jed

On 7/17/21, Edward Green <ergreen1981@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bill,



Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.



Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.



From the next list, press enter on VVPN.



Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you
press the Windows key will probably get you there.



Cheers,



Ed



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's



Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN
that isn't JAWS accessible?



Bill White



billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's



Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings,
then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an
email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to
care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether
they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io"
<stewartross=sky.com@groups.io <mailto:stewartross=sky.com@groups.io> >
wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew









moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Edward Green
 

Hi Bill,

 

Press Windows key+i to bring up settings.

 

Press enter on Network and Internet from the list.

 

From the next list, press enter on VVPN.

 

Alternatively, just typing “VPN” in the search box that appears when you press the Windows key will probably get you there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 17 July 2021 04:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Richard/all,

This is very useful indeed and I shall have a look at it and further behaviour.

                                                                Take care,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Σάββατο, 17 Ιουλίου 2021 01:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

I just made an interesting fdiscovery I think.

I launched BBC radio 3, opened Outlook, word, and Excel.

I was alt-tabbing between them just fine.

So, to check that my settings had held from the other day, I tapped the Windows key and wrote “alt-“ I only had to write as far as the dash for Windows to offer Determine what alt-tab does in windows and I hit enter on that and found that it said, the last 5 open windows in Edge again.

That made no sense to me as I had changed that I thought to Open Windows only…

So I changed it again.

I checked and it was back to the 5 windows nonsense.

 

I searched for that setting again and found there is also a setting for Virtual desktop.

Once I got both set to the same Open Windows only; the setting has stuck and works fine.

 

That is as clear as I can be.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

I will ask folks on a different forum to figure out if this is unique to JAWS.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Bill White
 

Hi, Ed. How do you key VPN settings manually into Windows if you have a VPN that isn't JAWS accessible?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's

 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?

if so which ones?

regards from stew


moderated Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

Cher
 

Thanks All- exactly what I needed.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

 

You don’t have to resubscribe.

All users from the Win10 group are still intack as they just rename the group.

 

 

From: Cher

Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 7:59 AM

Subject: Windows Access with Screen Readers group

 

I seem to have missed the transition from the old Win10 group. I would appreciate very much getting the subscribe address from someone who didn’t miss the boat 😉

 

Cher

 


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Richard Turner
 

I just made an interesting fdiscovery I think.

I launched BBC radio 3, opened Outlook, word, and Excel.

I was alt-tabbing between them just fine.

So, to check that my settings had held from the other day, I tapped the Windows key and wrote “alt-“ I only had to write as far as the dash for Windows to offer Determine what alt-tab does in windows and I hit enter on that and found that it said, the last 5 open windows in Edge again.

That made no sense to me as I had changed that I thought to Open Windows only…

So I changed it again.

I checked and it was back to the 5 windows nonsense.

 

I searched for that setting again and found there is also a setting for Virtual desktop.

Once I got both set to the same Open Windows only; the setting has stuck and works fine.

 

That is as clear as I can be.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

I will ask folks on a different forum to figure out if this is unique to JAWS.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

I will ask folks on a different forum to figure out if this is unique to JAWS.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  I am having more closure / crashes of Outlook since latest JAWS and Win 10 updates.  Also, ALT Tab issue for me consists of JAWS not reading the title of highlighted tab when I switch.  This item is random and has been around a while.

You’re not alone but I have no fix. 😊

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Hi Brian-all,

Actually, I have double checked on this Brian and it’s all set as suggested ever since I posed this question a while back. However, I still find that I can not get a rotating behaviour with alt-tab for more than say, two windows being open simultaneously. If I have bbc radio3 open as I do, plus outlook and for a while I want to open say, a word document, then outlook will probably vanish and I have to go back to desktop and restart it afresh. I wonder if others are finding this behaviour with latest jaws and win10 21h build 19043.

                                                                Kindest regards,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 19:03
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

You know, it's just plain foolish to call a new feature, and its default setting, however annoying that might be (and, believe me, it's happened to all of us) a problem.

The ALT + TAB behavior was changed with version 20H2 (thanks, Joseph Lee for confirming version) and deeper integration with new Chromium-based MS-Edge.  That behavior can be changed back to old-style with ease.  As I noted yesterday, in the topic entitled, windows 10 update 21h1:

Settings, System, Multitasking Pane and check to see what the dropdown for Pressing ALT + Tab shows, is set to. If you want conventional "old Windows" movement between open windows then you need to select, Open windows only, from the dropdown.

Someone also mentioned that they tweaked the settings related to multiple desktops that have an impact on ALT + Tab behavior, which is also a good idea if you use them. I don't, but many do.

These are some of the many reasons that being proactive and at least scanning topics you may not initially think interest you is a good idea.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Working with JFW and DBT's Swift Add-on

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Guys.
I need to learn to use DBT's Swift add-on to help make work between
Word and DBT go easier. Are there any special keystrokes I need to
know about, or things in the learning curve to watch for?

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

leonard morris
 

I do use a VPN express VPN to be exact and it works just fine with Jaws.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Edward Green <ergreen1981@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 4:28:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: re jaws and vpn's
 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?
if so which ones?
regards from stew


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

Edward Green
 

Hi Stew,

As long as your VPN provider of choice lets you see its relevant settings, then you can key them in manually into Windows.

This is a bit more work but it's no more complicated than setting up an email account manually, and the massive advantage is that you don’t need to care whether your VPN provider’s software is accessible or worry whether they might break it during an update.

Cheers,

Ed

On 16 July 2021 20:00:05 "stewartross via groups.io" <stewartross@...> wrote:

hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?
if so which ones?
regards from stew


moderated Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Thanks Brian. I don’t feel technically confident enough to indulge with deep windows issues that way, as any mistake might affect my work. However, I may ask for assistance when this is possible.

                                                                Thanks for the tip,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 16 Ιουλίου 2021 21:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you successfully alt tab with jaws in windows 10 update 21h1?

 

Takis,

Everything you describe has Windows Corruption or potential infection written all over it.  There is no way that programs "just randomly close" under normal circumstances.

First, try Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

If that doesn't stop the offending misbehavior, then try Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

What you're describing is simply not characteristic behavior.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: re jaws and vpn's

James English
 

Hi,

I use surfshark and it works fine. It's also cheap and fast, and they
don't keep logs. No I'm not on commission.

- James

On 7/16/21, stewartross via groups.io <stewartross=sky.com@groups.io> wrote:
hi can someone tell me if jaws works with any vpn's?
if so which ones?
regards from stew






moderated Re: Help - I'm at my wit's end. JAWS will not advance to next page in tagged PDF #jaws

David Griffith
 

Personally I would give up on Adobe and open it in another reader.
Good free options include Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge which provide pretty good accessible PDF reading. In Edge you can even use immersive reader / read aloud options which provide a nice alternative for narration if you fancy a change from your screen reading voice.
  
David Griffith

On 16 Jul 2021, at 18:30, Laura R <lroberts846@...> wrote:

I have a 150 page PDF which is tagged and passed the accessibility checker and PDF/UA checkers.

However, when I test it in Adobe Reader on JAWS, JAWS reads to the bottom of the page and stops. Hitting the arrow key just repeats the last word on the page like it's reached the end of the document. CTRL + Page Down does advance you to the next page, but takes you to the last line on the next page which is obviously far from an ideal experience for the end user. Insert + Down Arrow (Say All) only reads current page.

I have tried changing the accessibility and reading settings to (a) read the entire document, (b) large documents read current page and changing size of large document to a minimum of 200 pgs (longer than this pdf), and (c) read single page continuous. None of them worked.

The document is due to my client today and would be good to go if not for this weird issue. In 10 years of pdf remediation, I've never encountered this problem before.

Because I have an NDA, I cannot share the file.


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