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Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
David Diamond
Jim, I just put in Richard’s name because I thought it sounded rude just to eliminate any name. Smile. As for, “They are still working on making the subscription model available outside of the U.S>” It sounds like the term I referred to earlier. Some of you are thinking about … and next year you will still be thinking about it. I think the making of the subscription available to non U S citizens has been bandied around since Freedom scientific was still freedom scientific, now Visparo.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: July 6, 2021 12:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
David, I am not Richard, but Eric is at the NFB Convention this week and I am sorry to say but the response hasn’t changed much. “They are still working on making the subscription model available outside of the U.S>”. Regards,
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Re: Computers for the Blind
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
If someone is buying one of these on their own, and they simply cannot save up for a good new machine; they serve a small market and if pressed, they will fix them when they show up in poor shape; like a laptop with a dead/dying battery.
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But, what is truly sad, is that with Vocational Rehabilitation funds getting tighter and tighter, some agencies have started buying clients one of those computers instead of a new machine with a warranty for at least 3 years, so the person can be functional
for a long time.
Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
www.turner42.com
On Jul 6, 2021, at 1:14 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:
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Re: Computers for the Blind
While I have never owned a computer from Computers for the Blind, a friend of mine who I served as tech support for purchased a number of laptops over the years.
They are not "the latest and greatest" and, at least up until very recently (if even now), they routinely came with conventional HDDs not SSDs. But they were solid machines, many business class laptops off of long term lease that were "too old" to sell as refurbished to the broad general market, but with more than enough get up and go to handle routine web browsing, emailing, and office-suite type programs. Some did not, however, come with full-sized "desktop layout" keyboards, but I think that's likely different now, too, as it's a small minority of laptops that don't have a number pad on them. Make sure that the features you want are something you request specifically, e.g., having a number pad (or not having a number pad, as the case may be). -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not. ~ André Gide
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Re: Computers for the Blind
David Diamond
Years ago, I got a refurbished lap top and it too was slower then molasses in January. I put in a SSD and the loading speed tripled. It turned out that it was originally a windows 7 that had been upgraded to 10. Now, it is so old, HP does not even carry some of the drivers needed to fix it. I naturally don't expect the latest and greatest, however, it would have been nice If I did not have to wait minutes, 5 or more for it to load up. Sometimes I think these agencies that donate computers, just do it for 2 reasons, no one wants them, or they are on their last legs and the company wants to claim it as a charitable donation for tax purposes. When the real truth is they can't be sold and it is the old, "shut up and just be happy with what you got. What do you expect! Attitude. I remember a while back a person fixed lap tops and was selling them for $3 or $400. Big problem was there was no display on the screen. For the sighted, very important. He lamented that no one was purchasing them. I was given one of them and it died with no chance of resurrecting it or repairing it within 6 months of receiving it. Another one, the mother board was shot not to mention the battery lasted for 10 minutes on a full charge. It was suggested it was cheaper just to get a new one.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: July 6, 2021 1:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Computers for the Blind Hi Michael, While I have not ordered a machine from this company, I was assisting someone who received a unit. The problem she encountered was that it took several minutes for her machine to start up. She was with Voc Rehab and I think they contacted the company to resolve the issue. Best, Les On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:32 AM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
David,
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I am not Richard, but Eric is at the NFB Convention this week and I am sorry to say but the response hasn’t changed much. “They are still working on making the subscription model available outside of the U.S>”. Regards,
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Re: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
David Diamond
Richard, if you have an occasion to email Eric again, could you ask him if he has any date as to when sales like below will be offered to Canadians? The subscriptions to JAWS have been around for years, yet Canadians still have to purchase the SMA rather then going the subscription route. Time and time again the response is, “It will be available in Canada eventually.” This reminds me of a phrase decades ago. “Some of you are thinking about … and next year you will still be thinking about it.”
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 6, 2021 5:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
IN response to Gerald’s statement below, I wrote Eric Damery directly on Sunday, July 4, and received a response today. Here is my question to him:
Good morning, or afternoon; whenever you read this, On one of the Jaws lists, the issue of to SMA or not to SMA has been coming up because of the sale.
It is being said that the SMA is going to be faded out and everyone wil be forced into the annual license.
Is that true?
Here is his response:
Hi Richard,
Not at all. There are currently two options and I expect that to continue.
If you are in ILM and current, maintaining a two year SMA is an option today. $150 is retail and you can get it during the show for $120. Pretty good deal. For those who have let their license lapse, or don't own one, than paying annually with the Portal solution will likely be less expensive and thousands of customers have gone that direction.
Eric
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Eventually, the SMA option is expected to be phased out, and all JAWS users will be switched to the annual subscription option, which will be more profitable for Freedom Scientific.
Gerald
On 7/4/2021 9:13 AM, Marie wrote:
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Re: After purchasing SMA?
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Go to Jaws menu > Help > Licence and select Update Licence.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Loy
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 6:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: After purchasing SMA?
After purchasing a SMA, how do I get it to show the new amount of upgrades I have.
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Re: Downloading files from server
Bill White
Hi, Kevin. As Richard said, Filezilla is good. You can also enable ftp downloading from your browser as follows,
Enabling FTP Transfer in Your Browser Starting in late 2020, web browser developers began disabling FTP (File Transfer Protocol) file downloads by default. Our assumption is that they consider such downloads security risks. Artwork makes all of our software available to customers via FTP so until we change this, our customers still need to use FTP. This article describes how the user can change the browser to allow FTP file downloads.
Firefox
Firefox version 86 and later block FTP by default. If you get a strange dialog box after clicking on an ftp link on one of Artwork's download pages, this is the reason. (Note - it is also possible that your company's firewall may block all FTP traffic. Check with your IT department if you are not sure.)
type into Firefox's address bar: about:config
You will be warned to proceed with caution:
Accept the Risk and Continue.
When presented with the next window, enter into the search box the term "ftp". You will see a number of settings related to ftp file transfers.
We are interested in the parameter network.ftp.enabled. If the value is set to false, then ftp is disabled. We want to change that value from false to true. To change the value from false to true click on the toggle button.
After doing this you will see the value is now true.
You can close this window; now you will be able to use ftp.
Google Chrome
By default, Google Chrome will attempt to send you to a different application in order to use FTP as you can see below when I try to download Qckvu3 from Artwork's web site:
To correct this, first type into the address bar: chrome://flags and you will see the following window:
Now type into the search bar: enable-ftp You should see the flag for enable-ftp. If it is set to Default or to Disabled, press the label/button and select Enabled.
Now all you need to do is to press the button labeled Relaunch at the bottom of the window. This will restart Chrome and your change will take effect. Once you have done this, you should be able to use ftp.
Microsoft Edge
To correct this, first type into the address bar: chrome://flags and you will see the following window:
Now type into the search bar: enable-ftp You should see the flag for enable-ftp. If it is set to Default or to Disabled, press the label/button and select Enabled.
Now all you need to do is to press the button labeled Relaunch at the bottom of the window. This will restart Edge and your change will take effect. Once you have done this, you should be able to use ftp.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:21 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Downloading files from server
Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2021. Is there a free program that works with Jaws2021 where I can download files from a server where my web site is located? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Downloading files from server
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Assuming you are talking about an FTP client; yes.
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Filezilla is free and works great with Jaws 2021.
It is made by the same open source group that does FireFox.
Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
www.turner42.com
On Jul 6, 2021, at 9:21 AM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
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Downloading files from server
kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2021. Is there a free program that works with Jaws2021 where I can download files from a server where my web site is located? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: JAWS Accessibility of the Clubhouse Windows Client
Larry Gassman
Yes, it is once again very accessible. They had some issues with the sign in, but now all seems to be working even better than before. Larry
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 12:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS Accessibility of the Clubhouse Windows Client
Hi All
Can anyone advise me if the Clubhouse Windows Client is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks inn advance Debbie
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Question about people's experiences with Jaws 2021 May release!!
Shan Noyes
Hi all!
Well before anyone says well call the tech support or write Vispero I will say that I’ve done both and it didn’t answer my questions.
I’ve experienced a issue with the May release of Jaws 2021, with some scripts I’ve written for a web interface over 7 years ago. These scripts worked fine up until I applied the May release of Jaws 2021. I contacted Vispero and the responses were that the problem was with my scripts.
The scripts work fine in Jaws pre 2021, I have another computer which has not had the May release applied and they work fine there.
I asked on the Jaws scripting list and folks have also found that scripts in html have stopped working.
So has any of you out there experienced this issue.
Here is one of the scripts
; script: lastname ; Finds the last name name and read it ; Key command: grave then l Script SayLastName () invisibleCursor () FindString (GetFocus(), "Last Name:", S_Top, S_Unrestricted) NextWord() NextWord() SayString("Last Name "+GetWord()) SpeechOff () PerformScript PcCursor () SpeechOn () EndScript
The problem is the FindString command jumps down the page to find the text however, it is inconsistent in where it puts you on the line. So the NextWord commands do not jump you to the correct place. As well as this command provides inconsistent results.
Something that never happened in the previous 7 years of its use.
Looking forward to your thoughts.
Thanks
Shan Noyes Technical Analyst –Cybersecurity GIAC T: 306 533-1440 E: shan.noyes@...
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Re: After purchasing SMA?
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Open Jaws with insert+j Arrow to About. Hit enter. Tab to the read only box and go to the top with control+home. I had 1 SMA before today, I purchased 24-25 with the convention price, and that screen now shows: Software Maintenance Agreement Upgrades Remaining: 2 HTH,
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Loy
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 6:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: After purchasing SMA?
After purchasing a SMA, how do I get it to show the new amount of upgrades I have.
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After purchasing SMA?
Loy
After purchasing a SMA, how do I get it to
show the new amount of upgrades I have.
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Will SMA's continue, was RE: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
IN response to Gerald’s statement below, I wrote Eric Damery directly on Sunday, July 4, and received a response today. Here is my question to him:
Good morning, or afternoon; whenever you read this, On one of the Jaws lists, the issue of to SMA or not to SMA has been coming up because of the sale.
It is being said that the SMA is going to be faded out and everyone wil be forced into the annual license.
Is that true?
Here is his response:
Hi Richard,
Not at all. There are currently two options and I expect that to continue.
If you are in ILM and current, maintaining a two year SMA is an option today. $150 is retail and you can get it during the show for $120. Pretty good deal. For those who have let their license lapse, or don't own one, than paying annually with the Portal solution will likely be less expensive and thousands of customers have gone that direction.
Eric
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Software Sale
Eventually, the SMA option is expected to be phased out, and all JAWS users will be switched to the annual subscription option, which will be more profitable for Freedom Scientific.
Gerald
On 7/4/2021 9:13 AM, Marie wrote:
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Re: Computers for the Blind
Les Kriegler
Hi Michael,
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While I have not ordered a machine from this company, I was assisting someone who received a unit. The problem she encountered was that it took several minutes for her machine to start up. She was with Voc Rehab and I think they contacted the company to resolve the issue. Best, Les
On Jul 6, 2021, at 2:32 AM, Michael Walker <michael.walker199014@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: JAWS Accessibility of the Clubhouse Windows Client
Justin Williams
I've had trouble with it messing up on my pc. I've had to delete it and reload it several tiems.
It somewhat works.
To find the accessible keys, hit the alt key and arrow down and you'll se the hot keys.
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 3:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS Accessibility of the Clubhouse Windows Client
Hi All
Can anyone advise me if the Clubhouse Windows Client is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks inn advance Debbie
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JAWS Accessibility of the Clubhouse Windows Client
Debbie April Yuille
Hi All
Can anyone advise me if the Clubhouse Windows Client is accessible with JAWS?
Thanks inn advance Debbie
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Computers for the Blind
Michael Walker
Hi,
Have any of you ever ordered a laptop from Computers for the Blind? What did you think of the results? Was the computer in good condition? I understand that these computers are refurbished. Thank you, Mike
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Re: apple iphone cleaner
meow meow
well it my Ipad that sometime it go slow and sometime it
right speen
I.m using verson 9 and will not update to verson 14
because it mess up on my iphone to update
because they add on junk on verson 14 that I don't
like
and I have trouble with Ipad that I like to slid the
screen I playing and sometime my finger went to right side and when some where
else like back to home page
and I could not move the screen to right sight while I'm
playing to open
Rosie
What is it you want to clean? I have had iPhones since 2009 and never had a need to clean anything other than to delete apps I no longer wanted and maybe every few years to set up a new phone from scratch. What phone do you have and what is it doing or not doing which makes you think it needs to be cleaned?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
meow meow
hi I wonder which apple aps store it best to clean up my ipone there are several of them is smart clean is good? I do not want to get rid of my photo or some files and want to make sure no virus too thanks Rosie
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