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moderated question

meow meow
 

Hi
I wonder if anyone know how to turn off I think it call status cell that I could not find it from jaw 21
window 7.
thanks Rosie


moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Shan Noyes
 

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

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What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Scott Pearl
 

Ann,
I'm sorry this doesn't totally answer your question but it may help a little. If you go into JAWS Quick Settings with insert-V, then in the edit box type in "cell text visibility" it should come up with that option. If you enable this option it will tell you if it overlaps and about how many cells it overlaps to. But, unfortunately, I'm not aware of how to get it to read only the text you're seeking.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

thanks, Justin. F2 reads the full contents of the cell, whether it is visible on the screen or not. I want a command that reads only the 8 or so characters in the cell I am in, not the total contents that overflow behind the next cell.
At 08:45 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
F2 will read text in a cell.
It will say edit, and you can reas whatever is in the cell.


Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way
that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks What else can I
try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.










moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Justin Williams
 

What was the solution?

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

seeing your response to Justin's post, I misunderstood your question.
But I'm glad it's been solved for you.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Using Excel 2019 with JAWS 2021 latest, I can't read visible text with the JAWS cursor.
At 08:33 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text, whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.











.


moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Mario
 

seeing your response to Justin's post, I misunderstood your question. But I'm glad it's been solved for you.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Using Excel 2019 with JAWS 2021 latest, I can't read visible text with
the JAWS cursor.
At 08:33 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way
that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points.  It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells.  How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1?  F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.











.


moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Ann,

As far as I know there's no JAWS command to speak the length of the string displayed in a cell. There are script functions to calculate the length of a string in JAWS but you need a lot of infos, for example font name, font size, bold or italic and so on to do this. And then you need more scripting to get the length of the cell. If you want to make sure the string is completely in your cell you could use the shortcut Alt + H, then O, and then I.

Good luck
Udo

Am 30.06.2021 um 16:38 schrieb Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>:

Using Excel 2019 with JAWS 2021 latest, I can't read visible text with the JAWS cursor.
At 08:33 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.









moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

thanks, Justin. F2 reads the full contents of the cell, whether it is visible on the screen or not. I want a command that reads only the 8 or so characters in the cell I am in, not the total contents that overflow behind the next cell.

At 08:45 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
F2 will read text in a cell.
It will say edit, and you can reas whatever is in the cell.


Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.










moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

Using Excel 2019 with JAWS 2021 latest, I can't read visible text with the JAWS cursor.

At 08:33 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.





moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Tony
 

One problem I noticed with the free scripts is that they do not access the icon for screen sharing.  They do access the computer audio sharing control.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Boston, Jason W
 

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Justin Williams
 

If you are going to tell them, wait until you have been given the interview.

I would tell them, then possibly, but only then.

Thanks,

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Michael:

In the late 1960's, I applied for a job on the factory floor at a factory which made components for both the aircraft and shipping industries. I did not tell them about my visual impairment before I went to the interview.
Before the interview, I made it my business to find out as much as I could about the company and what they did . In addition, I borrowed some tools I might need for the job, which had been adapted for someone who was visually impaired to work in such a position.
They did not seem to be put out that I had not mentioned my visual impairment on my application, and after assking me some questions, including what I knew about the company, they asked how I would operate machinery such as, capston lathes, milling machines, power presses, etc. In addition, they asked how I would measure components, to make sure they met the tollerences, demanded by the job. I then showed them the tools I brought with me. They then asked me if I would show them how I would use the tools. I must have done what was required because, I was offered the job on the spot. And lastly, they told me that I was the only applicant who had taken the time to research the company before attending the interview.

If I was in the job market today, regardless as to whether I informed a prospective employer of my visual impairment or not, I would make sure I took a memory stick with a copy of both JAWS and NVDA on it, to the interview with me. Generally, with most countries around the world,there is not a legal requirement to inform employers of one's handicap/disability, I think I would be more inclined to do so because, it would give employers time to prepare reasonable accommodation/adjustment, for applicants who are handicapped/disabled, especially for I T departments to obtain and install demonstration versions of specialist software, such as screen readers, etc.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Walker" <michael.walker199014@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews


Hi Rod,


Your situation sounds similar to mine. At my previous job which was also
my first to have to deal with interviewing as a programmer analyst, I did
not disclose my disability on the application, before, or during the
interview. The interview was just me answering questions about the job. I
only disclosed that I was blind after accepting the job offer, so I could
get permission to install JAWS on the company laptop. I wanted to keep
everything as job relevant as possible.


Mike

On 6/29/2021 3:54 PM, Rod wrote:
I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk
about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being
relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize
how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you
will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and
make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was
frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was
referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to
questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared
as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that
reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone
interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me.
For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and
database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your
qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot
control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in
there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if
that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be
difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you
with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others
reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to
impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and
abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database
administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do
you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did
you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of
technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by
phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I
was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work,
but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I
would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their
systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I
provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how
people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a
phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all
stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation?
I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike



































moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Justin Williams
 

F2 will read text in a cell.
It will say edit, and you can reas whatever is in the cell.


Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.


moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Mario
 

using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points.  It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells.  How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1?  F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.


moderated Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text, whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Dave Durber
 

Michael:

In the late 1960's, I applied for a job on the factory floor at a factory which made components for both the aircraft and shipping industries. I did not tell them about my visual impairment before I went to the interview. Before the interview, I made it my business to find out as much as I could about the company and what they did . In addition, I borrowed some tools I might need for the job, which had been adapted for someone who was visually impaired to work in such a position.
They did not seem to be put out that I had not mentioned my visual impairment on my application, and after assking me some questions, including what I knew about the company, they asked how I would operate machinery such as, capston lathes, milling machines, power presses, etc. In addition, they asked how I would measure components, to make sure they met the tollerences, demanded by the job. I then showed them the tools I brought with me. They then asked me if I would show them how I would use the tools. I must have done what was required because, I was offered the job on the spot. And lastly, they told me that I was the only applicant who had taken the time to research the company before attending the interview.

If I was in the job market today, regardless as to whether I informed a prospective employer of my visual impairment or not, I would make sure I took a memory stick with a copy of both JAWS and NVDA on it, to the interview with me. Generally, with most countries around the world,there is not a legal requirement to inform employers of one's handicap/disability, I think I would be more inclined to do so because, it would give employers time to prepare reasonable accommodation/adjustment, for applicants who are handicapped/disabled, especially for I T departments to obtain and install demonstration versions of specialist software, such as screen readers, etc.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Walker" <michael.walker199014@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews


Hi Rod,


Your situation sounds similar to mine. At my previous job which was also my first to have to deal with interviewing as a programmer analyst, I did not disclose my disability on the application, before, or during the interview. The interview was just me answering questions about the job. I only disclosed that I was blind after accepting the job offer, so I could get permission to install JAWS on the company laptop. I wanted to keep everything as job relevant as possible.


Mike

On 6/29/2021 3:54 PM, Rod wrote:
I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me. For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


































moderated Re: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

Milton Ota
 

If you are wanting to read a BARD book there is no software that will do that.

 

If you are thinking of the software to download and transfer books to the NLS cartridge there is BARD Express.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 7:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

 

What software can I download onto my Windows 10 computer running the latest version of JAWS that will work with BARD?


moderated Re: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

Bill White
 

Hi, Stan. I think Marianne is asking about reading DAISY BARD books on the computer. I just sent her a message explaining that this is impossible, and why.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

 

If you are asking about browsing the Bard Talking Book website, Google Chrome works fine for me.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 8:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

 

What software can I download onto my Windows 10 computer running the latest version of JAWS that will work with BARD?


moderated Re: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

Chris Hill
 

Bard has an app that will let you find and download books.  They will not allow their audio books to be played on a pc.  I actually managed it once using an android emulator and the android app, but it was more of a lark than anything I'd recommend to anyone else.


CH


On 6/29/2021 19:25, Marianne Denning wrote:

What software can I download onto my Windows 10 computer running the latest version of JAWS that will work with BARD?


moderated Re: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

leonard morris
 

Bard express

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Marianne Denning <marianne@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:25:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: DAISY for computer that works with BARD
 

What software can I download onto my Windows 10 computer running the latest version of JAWS that will work with BARD?


moderated Re: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

Stan Holdeman
 

If you are asking about browsing the Bard Talking Book website, Google Chrome works fine for me.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 8:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

 

What software can I download onto my Windows 10 computer running the latest version of JAWS that will work with BARD?

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