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moderated Enabling FTP Transfer in Your Browser

Richard Turner
 

Greetings,

I just found that I could not download a file through an FTP link.  After some searching, discovered this article that explains about browsers recently blocking FTP links and how to fix it.

 

Enabling FTP Transfer in Your Browser

Starting in late 2020, web browser developers began disabling FTP (File Transfer Protocol) file downloads by default. Our assumption is that they consider such downloads security risks. Artwork makes all of our software available to customers via FTP so until we change this, our customers still need to use FTP. This article describes how the user can change the browser to allow FTP file downloads.

Firefox

Firefox version 86 and later block FTP by default. If you get a strange dialog box after clicking on an ftp link on one of Artwork's download pages, this is the reason. (Note - it is also possible that your company's firewall may block all FTP traffic. Check with your IT department if you are not sure.)



type into Firefox's address bar: about:config




You will be warned to proceed with caution:

Accept the Risk and Continue.




When presented with the next window, enter into the search box the term "ftp". You will see a number of settings related to ftp file transfers.

We are interested in the parameter network.ftp.enabled. If the value is set to false, then ftp is disabled. We want to change that value from false to true. To change the value from false to true click on the toggle button.



After doing this you will see the value is now true.

You can close this window; now you will be able to use ftp to download Artwork's programs.

 


 

Google Chrome

By default, Google Chrome will attempt to send you to a different application in order to use FTP as you can see below when I try to download Qckvu3 from Artwork's web site:




To correct this, first type into the address bar: chrome://flags and you will see the following window:



Now type into the search bar: enable-ftp

You should see the flag for enable-ftp. If it is set to Default or to Disabled, press the label/button and select Enabled.



Now all you need to do is to press the button labeled Relaunch at the bottom of the window. This will restart Chrome and your change will take effect.

Once you have done this, you should be able to download Artwork's software from our web site using Chrome.

 


 

Microsoft Edge

Since recent versions of Microsoft Edge are built on Chrome, the instructions for enabling ftp on Edge are exactly the same as those for Chrome. (see above)

 

From: Enable FTP File Transfer/Download in Your Browser (artwork.com)

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Pat Byrne
 

When I was interviewing, mostly before ADA I mentioned in my cover letter that I was blind. I always thought that if I showed up for an interview withouut warning it might piss off the employer and endanger my future employment. If the blindness wnaring put them off, then probably I wouldn't have been considered anyway.
From what I've heard and guessed, since ADA an employer can still justify not hiring a person with a disability, for some other obscure reason. Then just suck it up and move on.
Pat ByrneAt 11:24 PM 6/28/2021, you wrote:

Mike,

I can't tell why you're wondering if you should take a laptop to an interview. What kind of job are you seeking? Is there something about it that suggests the need for a laptop?

Several people have suggested legalistic approaches to interviews. I'd try not to get hung up on what your rights are. Those arguments are for afterwards, if the employer treats you unfairly.

It may or may not be true that a prospective employer is required to accommodate a disabled interviewee. Assuming for the sake of argument that they are, it does raise the question about whether to inform an employer ahead of an interview of your disability. This is really a question of timing, and it has been a tricky one since long before the ADA. For example, do you mention or imply it on your resume? Or do you wait until you're invited for an interview? Or, yet another possibility, do you show up without your disability announced ahead of time in order to ensure the employer can't pretend you weren't qualified? After all, if they are willing to take the time to interview, it means they've concluded you are qualified. From that point it's a question of convincing them you're also the best person for that job. Which approach to take can vary from applicant to applicant and from employer to employer.

It's wrong to say that if the employer doesn’t treat you right, you wouldn't want to work there anyway. The reality is that rejection hurts, and rejection due to disability is galling.

You need to go into an interview with knowledge of what the employer does and, to the extent possible, the nature of the work environment. If you can show genuine confidence, great. If you don't feel confident, try to manage your discomfort. In either case, listen carefully for every signal the people you speak to send. Adapt how you present yourself accordingly.

In theory, meaning according to the law, an employer shouldn’t ask you at the interview stage how you'd function at the job for which you're applying. In practice, the moment is likely to come when you find yourself asking yourself should you explain anyway. My sense is that the answer is usually yes. An employer can always find a non-disability-related excuse not to hire a disabled person, so putting them at ease in this respect most likely can only help you. In addition, in that moment when you ask yourself the question, it's likely it will be because you have a sense you've piqued their interest. Go for it. Think in terms of how to convince your interviewers that you'd do a great job for them.

Good luck. I hope you're excited at the prospect of the interview, even though you're also surely nervous.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike







moderated Re: question about Jaws at job interview

Michael Walker
 

Hi George,

What job did you interview for?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 29, 2021, at 5:20 AM, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

A few thoughts about this subject which may or may not help. First off I interviewed for a job back in the dinosaur age...1971. We didn't have laptops then, but I did have a small micro cassette recorder. I had it in my shirt pocket and it was ready to go when needed. That was a help in taking notes during the interview.


2. I did not tell the interviewer that I was blind before the interview. I chose to disarm him/her at the interview. After greetings were exchanged...I explained that I had lived with blindness for several years and knew how to deal with problems and obstacles. I told him/her that I wanted them to feel comfortable with me during the interview and that they could feel free to ask me anything! That seemed to lift barriers.


I personally feel that an interviewer subconsciously thinks "if I were blind...how would I do this task?" Since they have no familiarity with it, they conclude...it can't be done...which is why I tried to disarm them at the outset.


Anyway I did get the job, but I did go through many interviews before getting it!!!


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moderated Re: Tips for File Explorer

David Bailes
 

Hi Robin,
here's yet another way of finding where you are in the hierarchy. It does involve moving the focus, but only slightly. To use this method you'll want to enable the navigation pane option to expand to open folder. One way of doing this in on the View tab, there's navigation pane split button. Press it, and ensure that expand to open folder is checked.
Then, if you're in the items view, and you want to know your place in the hierarchy:
1. Press shift + Tab to the navigation pane. The selected item is the name of the current folder.
2. In a tree view, pressing backspace selects the parent folder, so by repeatedly pressing backspace you can find the parent, grand parent etc.
3. If you want to repeat this trip up the tree, pressing ctrl+shift+E selects the current folder again.
4. At any point you can return to the items view by pressing Tab.

David.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 04:19 AM, Mark wrote:

Robin,

Your preferred method makes sense. I think referring to the speech history is the same number of steps as a Shift + F10 clipboard then A method. ALT + D also moves the keyboard focus, which I'm trying to avoid because I'll have to move it back.  The title bar technique has a limitation. It will truncate long file paths.

Each of these technique seems to have extra steps, require listening to a long path name, and may move the keyboard focus. My impression is they also require the user to complete a fundamental file management task (where am i in the file hierarchy) using a set of other tasks, like "move to path" and "bring up speech history."  From a usability pov, wouldn't the ideal be if one keystroke said the name of the parent folder of the item view, without moving the focus?  Two key strokes gets you the grandparent folder, and so on?


moderated Re: question about Jaws at job interview

G. Gray
 

A few thoughts about this subject which may or may not help. First off I interviewed for a job back in the dinosaur age...1971.  We didn't have laptops then, but I did have a small micro cassette recorder.  I had it in my shirt pocket and it was ready to go when needed.  That was a help in taking notes during the interview.


2.  I did not tell the interviewer that I was blind before the interview.  I chose to disarm him/her at the interview.  After greetings were exchanged...I explained that I had lived with blindness for several years and knew how to deal with problems and obstacles.  I told him/her that I wanted them to feel comfortable with me during the interview and that they could feel free to ask me anything!  That seemed to lift barriers.


I personally feel that an interviewer subconsciously thinks "if I were blind...how would I do this task?"  Since they have no familiarity with it, they conclude...it can't be done...which is why I tried to disarm them at the outset.


Anyway I did get the  job, but I did go through many interviews before getting it!!!


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moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Michael Walker
 

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me. For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike

























moderated Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

CJ &AA MAY
 

Is there a way of accessing the reminders screen in Outlook on the computer? It keeps reminding me about events that have already taken place but I can’t find a way of deleting the event when using the PC.

Alison

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: 28 June 2021 23:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

I’ve not set the reminder window on top. I did assign a totally different sound so I’ll at least really be sure of the sound. On the phone is true enough.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

I’m not aware of the option to have an email sent to you and cannot find such a setting.  Are you using the reminder pop-ups?  Under Options, then advanced, you can have a Reminder window appear and also set whether that is always on top. I have both of these options checked   Ten minutes before my appointment, the specific alarm sounds and the reminder window pops up in the upper left of my screen.  True, if you aren’t at your computer when the alarm goes off, it’s possible to miss the alarm.  The reminder window is in the alt tab list and JAWS window list, so you’ll notice it if you are switching between programs. If you are in Outlook when you walk away, I think you can hit insert T when you return to see if focus has gone to a Reminder, assuming that you have the always keep on top option set. Frankly, this is a key reason I have my mail and calendar linked to my phone.  I love getting the reminders on my phone in case I’ve walked away from my laptop. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

I’m sorry, my explanation is not accurate enough. I really mean meeting reminder events from the calendar. I used to be able to have an email sent 10 minutes before a meeting and that no longer happens. The was an Office365 update that Oracle sent out and I thought a setting might have changed but alas, I cannot find anything.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

All –

I’ve been trying to figure out how to get email reminders in Outlook and I cannot. I can get a reminder, if I remember to alt tab until I find it but I really need emails reminders, can anyone help?



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moderated Re: [External] : Re: can't rename folder in Outlook 2016

Marie
 

If you use Shift plus F6 to go to the tree view, you can use the context menu to rename a folder.
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 11:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: can't rename folder in Outlook 2016

Mario, Highlight the folder you want to rename, press alt+Q, type rename and arrow down to rename folder. That is the most reliable way I've found. Some folders cannot be renamed such as the inbox or the outbox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: can't rename folder in Outlook 2016

it's actually a folder that he keeps certain emails in.

thinking about it, I wonder if there is a shortcut to rename a folder instead of using the f2 key or the context menu? anybody know?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Phillip Gross [mailto:phillip_gross@outlook.com]
Subject: can't rename folder in Outlook 2016
Date: Monday, June 28, 2021, 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
I am wondering, is it a folder or a Data File he wants to change the name of? If it's a data file, the group of folders that contains the data for an entire email address, the actions are a little bit different. In that case you'll have to go to account settings for that email address, and you can change the name there.

This may not be this person's problem, and, if not, I'm sorry. I've actually had someone come to me with the same problem while calling it a folder before, so I thought I would throw it out there.


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Adrian Spratt
 

Mike,

I can't tell why you're wondering if you should take a laptop to an interview. What kind of job are you seeking? Is there something about it that suggests the need for a laptop?

Several people have suggested legalistic approaches to interviews. I'd try not to get hung up on what your rights are. Those arguments are for afterwards, if the employer treats you unfairly.

It may or may not be true that a prospective employer is required to accommodate a disabled interviewee. Assuming for the sake of argument that they are, it does raise the question about whether to inform an employer ahead of an interview of your disability. This is really a question of timing, and it has been a tricky one since long before the ADA. For example, do you mention or imply it on your resume? Or do you wait until you're invited for an interview? Or, yet another possibility, do you show up without your disability announced ahead of time in order to ensure the employer can't pretend you weren't qualified? After all, if they are willing to take the time to interview, it means they've concluded you are qualified. From that point it's a question of convincing them you're also the best person for that job. Which approach to take can vary from applicant to applicant and from employer to employer.

It's wrong to say that if the employer doesn’t treat you right, you wouldn't want to work there anyway. The reality is that rejection hurts, and rejection due to disability is galling.

You need to go into an interview with knowledge of what the employer does and, to the extent possible, the nature of the work environment. If you can show genuine confidence, great. If you don't feel confident, try to manage your discomfort. In either case, listen carefully for every signal the people you speak to send. Adapt how you present yourself accordingly.

In theory, meaning according to the law, an employer shouldn’t ask you at the interview stage how you'd function at the job for which you're applying. In practice, the moment is likely to come when you find yourself asking yourself should you explain anyway. My sense is that the answer is usually yes. An employer can always find a non-disability-related excuse not to hire a disabled person, so putting them at ease in this respect most likely can only help you. In addition, in that moment when you ask yourself the question, it's likely it will be because you have a sense you've piqued their interest. Go for it. Think in terms of how to convince your interviewers that you'd do a great job for them.

Good luck. I hope you're excited at the prospect of the interview, even though you're also surely nervous.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Justin Williams
 

Be careful about asking about accommodations in an interview if all that is
required is that you answer questions.
You only get accommodations if necessary during the interview process, or
when you get the job.

Thanks,

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,

What kind of job are you applying for? If you will have to take a test at
the time of the interview then ask them about accommodations in advance.
However, if the interview is just that, asking and answering questions, then
I would ask about accommodations during the interview.

All of my work history was with the Federal government and they always had
accommodations available.

Good luck with the interview.

Lori Lynn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 5:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or
did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently
only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I
cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared.
Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Justin Williams
 

I make a habit of carrying my technology in a bookbag in any job situation, including interviews. Just in case. Not because I plan to pull at my laptop or iPhone and show them anything, but because that is what I do as a professional. I make a habit of that. I might need my pc for notetaking, or something else. But, I don't turn an interview into a show and tell. Don't make it a thing.

If it is difficult to carry your laptop, then don't.
Thanks,

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation?
I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I
am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and
that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike










moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

Here's something I was told about being interviewed. If a company asks for an interview, they're interested in you. What you should focus on is to prove them right. Let them know you're just what they need, and you already know it for yourself. I've also learned that if a company has a problem with whatever I have, I don't want to work with them anyway.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 10:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of
technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by
phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind.
We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did
not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have
shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point.
They also contacted a few references which I provided that were
previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how
people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just
a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all
stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation?
I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I
am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and
that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


















moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

If a possible employer offers an accessible computer, be prepared to use Narrator for what you'll be doing. It's a screen reader, and that's all they're required to provide. Also, some jobs are misleading. In April of this year, I started training with a company. I was assured the software I'd be working with was JAWS friendly. During the two days I was with them, I got a glimpse of what I'd be using, and JAWS worked great. What ended my short time with them was what was used for my training. That was totally graphical, requiring manipulating objects on the screen, and JAWS wouldn't work with it. I've found that places where I applied seemed very eager to hire me, but when I inform them how I'd do my job, they politely inform me either it won't work, or they take a month or two to figure out whether it will or not.

Just some thoughts.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 10:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

In that case, I would just have a laptop in my bag just in case though it is the responsibility of the employer to ensure that interviews are accessible.

Great employers would ask you upfront -- do you require any reasonable accommodations to participate in the interview?

If you were to be surprised with an exercise, I would then immediately make a request for reasonable accommodation right then and there. Not in such a way to turn them off and for you not to get the job but in a very tactful way -- something like -- "may I have your permission to utilize my personal laptop to complete the exercise as an accommodation? I have a screen reader on my computer that would allow me to perform the exercise."

you may then go even more into it and explain how you will be able to accomplish your work by using accessible technology.

Rod,

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all
stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation?
I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I
am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and
that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike










moderated Re: Tips for File Explorer

Mark
 

Robin,

Your preferred method makes sense. I think referring to the speech history is the same number of steps as a Shift + F10 clipboard then A method. ALT + D also moves the keyboard focus, which I'm trying to avoid because I'll have to move it back.  The title bar technique has a limitation. It will truncate long file paths.

Each of these technique seems to have extra steps, require listening to a long path name, and may move the keyboard focus. My impression is they also require the user to complete a fundamental file management task (where am i in the file hierarchy) using a set of other tasks, like "move to path" and "bring up speech history."  From a usability pov, wouldn't the ideal be if one keystroke said the name of the parent folder of the item view, without moving the focus?  Two key strokes gets you the grandparent folder, and so on?


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Rod
 

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


















moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Rod
 

In that case, I would just have a laptop in my bag just in case though it is the responsibility of the employer to ensure that interviews are accessible.

Great employers would ask you upfront -- do you require any reasonable accommodations to participate in the interview?

If you were to be surprised with an exercise, I would then immediately make a request for reasonable accommodation right then and there. Not in such a way to turn them off and for you not to get the job but in a very tactful way -- something like -- "may I have your permission to utilize my personal laptop to complete the exercise as an accommodation? I have a screen reader on my computer that would allow me to perform the exercise."

you may then go even more into it and explain how you will be able to accomplish your work by using accessible technology.

Rod,

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike










moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Cornelius
 

This varies from country to country, and specifically from company to company. For interview, not all of them need a laptop unless you have to answer certain test.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 6:28 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


moderated Re: Turn Off Fonts Announcement

Cornelius
 

I am using JAWS 2021 latest with the classic scheme.
It happen in some of the text messages I got when using WhatsApp web.
 
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turn Off Fonts Announcement
 
Knowing if this is happening in all programs or a specific program would be a big help.  But, try Checking your speech and sound scheme.  Press, Insert Alt + S, to open the speech & sound scheme list.  Take notice of which scheme is highlighted when you open it.
 
If it isn't set on the, Classic, scheme navigate to it and press enter to see if that helps.
 
If this doesn't help please give more information like what program and version of Jaws.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Cornelius
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 9:31 PM
Subject: Turn Off Fonts Announcement
 
 
Hi all,
In view of people who uses certain font to write, I find it quite disturbing when JAWS keeps reading the font name letter by letter. I will paste below some sample of the text. Is there way to turn off JAWS announcement of the font?
 
 
𝗸𝗶𝘁𝗮 𝘀𝗲𝗺𝘂𝗮
 


moderated Re: Turn Off Fonts Announcement

Cornelius
 

 
No, I am using the default classic scheme. But specifically for the line of text I pasted, JAWS keeps saying “bold” and  “sand sarraf”, and it read by letters instead of word. Those text may pose no meaning in English btw.
 
 

From: Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 11:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turn Off Fonts Announcement
 

I’ve not experienced this when reading. Could you have a sound scheme turned on that specifically calls out font changes?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 10:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Turn Off Fonts Announcement

 

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Hi all,

In view of people who uses certain font to write, I find it quite disturbing when JAWS keeps reading the font name letter by letter. I will paste below some sample of the text. Is there way to turn off JAWS announcement of the font?

 

 

𝗸𝗶𝘁𝗮 𝘀𝗲𝗺𝘂𝗮

 



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moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Michael Walker
 

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike

















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