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moderated Re: slightly off topic: re: can you adjust the volume on each ear separately on the OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver?

David Griffith
 

What actually happens is that you hear both your computer screenreader and your phone in both ears at once.

There is no setting to separate the sound or adjust volume on the actual headphones.

For that you will need I think some far more complicated and expensive kit if that is really what you need- something like a splitter mixer. I used to use one of these but the mixer alone cost over 4 times as much as these headphones alone and obviously more still as you will need to buy headphones with volume controls o on top of that as well.

In practice though this has not been a problem for me personally as I can adjust the volume from jaws and my caller independently from the computer and phone.

What happens naturally if that if you are struggling to hear on the phone you simply pause using Jaws for a moment or two to listen.

I still find it far more convenient than trying to use 2 pairs of headphones/earphones at once.

 

David Griffith

 

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From: Hank William Merchant
Sent: 27 June 2021 16:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Fw: slightly off topic: re: can you adjust the volume on each ear separately on the OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver?

 

 

 

From: Hank William Merchant

Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 4:22 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: re: the OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

 

 

 

Good afternoon,

 

Since these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver loud earphones are dual input capability earphones, does this maybe mean that I can hopefully have jaws talking to me in only say my right hand side ear, so this way I can hear for sure jaws really good in my right hand side ear and

I can keep my left hand side ear clear to hear very good only customers in my left hand side ear that I am talking to in received incoming customer service calls in a call centre?

 

Also wondering as far as the loud volume capability goes for these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver  earphones, is there maybe a separate volume adjustment knob for each ear?

 

Any help with these important above questions concerning these particular OneOdio dual input earphones would be so very much appreciated! Thanks very much in advance for any help I can maybe get with this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:39 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

And in looking these up there are many options including lighter weight foldable ones and even some with dual inputs and Bluetooth like this:

https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=OneOdio+Over+Ear+Headphones+Studio+Wired+Bass+Headsets+with+50mm+Driver&ref=nb_sb_noss

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

I hesitated to post this here initially as it is a Jaws list.  However given the persistence of interest I did a recent review on a pair of cheap headphones which would meet all these access requirements.

Review

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

 

Occasionally a mainstream product emerges which inadvertently meets all sorts of accessibility needs. The OneOdio Over Ear Headphone certainly do that, despite being described as D. J> Head pones, and their capacity for dual input may make them an important affordable access solution in the workplace.

 

Ironically access was not really considered when these headphones were ordered. They were a Christmas present from my daughter who was most interested in their noise cancelling aspect. The hope was that this would protect both herself and my wife from the sound of NVDA and Jaws leaking out whilst they were listening to the Television.

My deaf ears makes my listening volume loud and can disturb others with leakage.

 

Certainly these headphones reduce leakage and I now receive requests to switch back to them if I am using a different pair.

 

For general usage they are very pleasant wired headphones , with a good powerful bass sound. they are light if slightly bulky for portable usage. They are rated as the number 1 Amazon best seller for D. J Headphones.

They are also very reasonably priced at £34.99.

There are however 3 more important access features of these headphones.

 

The first access plus is the headphone loudness.

Prolonged loud headphone volume is undeniably dangerous for people with normal hearing. People with normal or mildly impaired hearing should heed all the warnings. However for people like me with congenital severe deafness it is essential to find headphones which can pump out volume. Pretty much every year I end up giving away headphones or earphones which are useless as they are just too quiet. Without suitable head pones producing sufficient volume I would be incapable of typing this review, making a pone call or listening to my Audio books Radio and Music.

Luckily these headphones are well capable of providing the necessary pump.

 

The second access capability is that they have sufficient headband tension to enable precise placement adjacent to or over my hearing aids. Lots of head pones are unusable with hearing aids as it is impossible to prevent high pitched feedback whistling without this precise placement.

 

Thirdly and probably most importantly is that these headphones can be used in dual input mode.

There are 2 input ports for the headphones.

The right ear receives an old style 6.5 mm headphone plug which has a normal 3.5mm plug at the other end of the cable. This cable is partly coiled to connect easily over distance too computers and other audio devices.

The left ear receives a small 2.5mm plug which via a shorter cable, connects to a normal 3.5mm plug. This cable includes an inline remote control and mic for playing and pausing, answering phone calls etc. This shorted cable is clearly suitable for connecting to any phone capable of receiving wired headphones.

I have tested this cable with my Google Pixel 4A and my old iPhone SE first generation via a lightning audio cable adapter. It worked as expected with both devices. It also worked with my Victor reader Trek and even paused and played via the remote inline control like the phones.

It received audio from my blind Shell Classic phone and Evo 10 Daisy Player but not surprisingly these devices did not respond to the inline remote control.

 

What I did not immediately appreciate is that it is possible to have both these input sources simultaneously connected.

So whilst I am typing this review I am also connected to my Blind Shell Classic phone. I am able to operate the phone, make and receive calls, all at the same time being able to consult my computer via my screenreader. If I need to make notes whilst listening to a call this is straightforward .

In the past this would be a struggle for me. For example I used to do Internet grocery shopping for my Mother in law, in her 90s. This involved me ringing her but also having to navigate the Sainsburys Web site on my PC. On several occasions I resorted to wearing 2 paris of headphones, one on top the other to try and complete this tricky process.

I would also have found these headphones an invaluable aid in work. In those days I relied on memory, clattering down notes immediately after the call.

More expensive phone and mixing devices were available , I remember using such a device at the RNIB but these headpones are a far easier, cheaper option.

 

I am, in summary, not sure what there is not to like. These are not a blue tooth option which is a plus for me because of issues i can describe another day.

Details from the Amazon Website below, and finally a link  to the UK Amazon below that.

David Griffith

 

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

Large, 50 millimeter speaker unit drivers combined with neodymium magnets provides stereo Hi-Fi level sound; powerful bass, clear vocal, and crisp high tones form perfect balanced sound.

• A standard-sized 3.5mm plug aux cable with mic are included (make it a headphone with mic. A long, DJ-style 9.8ft cord with 6.35 plug easily reaches from the TV or stereo to your sofa. They both are completely detachable, so that you don't need to spend all hours of the day plugged into your mixer.

• 90° swiveling earcups for single-ear monitoring anytime; self-adjustable and flexible headband delivers a fatigue-free listening experience that can last for hours, perfect for mastering and mixing.

• Luxuriously padded ear cushions are specifically designed for monitor headphones maximum comfort and noise isolation. The headband is adjustable and stretchable for you to find the desired angle you like to fit in.

• With the sleek design and high-end sound quality, OneOdio headphones are made for smart phones, all Androids, tablets, mp3 players, and related devices. OneOdio offers 30 days money back, 24-month guarantee and 24 hours friendly after service

 

Link to Amazon page.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Headphones-Monitoring-Neodymium-Headsets-Standard-Version/dp/B01MZHAX5S

 

I post the below from my blog.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 15 June 2021 16:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

And if you work for a call centre you should talk to your boss regarding a custom solution where you have Jaws on one ear and your phone call on the other. This is definitely possible with wired headsets, probably more difficult with Bluetooth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

Hank,It sounds like ideally, you want something that would allow you to only use one ear; and what I remember about the Bose is that it would be very difficult to remove the left, or position it so your work headset could be worn.

 

Loudness somewhat depends on your system and the Jaws setting, but if you could use a Bluetooth single ear piece, there are lots of choices from Plantronics.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

 

 

Good morning Phillip,

 

I am personally looking for a very loud pair of good earphones so I will be able to hear jaws loud enough in only my right hand side ear, (I have a bit of hearing loss in my right hand side ear), because I will not be able to use my other ear to also hear jaws, because I will need to use my left hand side ear solely to hear properly incoming cusstomer calls and talk to them through a separte one ear headset with a mike at an incoming calls call centre.

 

Can you maybe please tell me if these Bose QC 35 II headphones are quite loud? Any help you can maybe give me with this would be so very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any help!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

__ 

 

From: Phillip Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:18 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

It helps to know what you are looking to spend. The options at $50 are a lot different than the $300 options.

I personally use the Bose QC 35 II headphones. I have had them for about 3 years now and use them daily. I would estimate I wear them an average of 8 hours a day including weekends. I use them for work and personal use. They have a Bluetooth option, and I do use it, but most of the time I plug them into my computer or iPad. The battery is supposed to last 20 hours if you’re using Bluetooth and 40 hours if they are plugged into a 3.5 jack and you’re just using noise canceling. The foam began coming out of the ear pieces about a year ago, but I replaced them for about $30.

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws2021 Document,email and website

Mario
 

so navigating to the right goes to the next word instead of the next character? does this behavior persist if unloading JAWS and then starting JAWS again? before trying this, make sure you know how to start JAWS, either using a hotkey, like pressing control+alt+j, or manually by typing JAWS followed by the version number.

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@gmail.com]
Subject: Jaws2021 Document,email and website
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2021, 5:19 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Mario
What I'm saying far the email goes it OK for now ,but when I'm on website
on any particular website for example Walmart there are some word I didn't
understand correctly when I'm on the word then I press right arrow to try
to understand the first letter it didn't go on first letter when I right
arrow it took me to another word


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 Document,email and website

tell me if I'm understanding correctly, you want to hear the word
spelled out instead of having to move letter by letter as you navigate
by word?

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@gmail.com]
Subject: Jaws2021 Document,email and website
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2021, 3:15 PM
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Hi All

I have desktop and laptop computer windows10  ,When I'm on
document,email and website  I'm trying to right arrow on words each
letter  when I hear the word said lifesaver  when I press right arrow it
not saying letter l I f and etc for example on document ,email and
website  if I'm not sure if I understand the word correctly  and want to
right arrow to each letter  where it can said f for foxtrapand etc .
Does anyone know what I need to to get jaws said each letter ?

Addison













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moderated Re: can't rename folder in Outlook 2016

Adrian Spratt
 

F2 works for me if I want to change the name of an Outlook 2016 folder. I wonder if it matters how you get there. I go from a message list to the folders list with shift-F6. Once in that list, I use first-letter navigation to locate the folder name. From there, F2 works as expected.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: can't rename folder in Outlook 2016

I'm trying to help an acquaintance where he wants to rename a folder, but cannot seem to do so. he has tried pressing F2 when he goes to the existing folder, but nothing happens. I have found a Youtube video that implied clicking on the file menu and then rename, but it doesn't work for him. what else can he do?


moderated Re: Jaws2021 Document,email and website

O.Addison Gethers
 

Mario
What I'm saying far the email goes it OK for now ,but when I'm on website
on any particular website for example Walmart there are some word I didn't
understand correctly when I'm on the word then I press right arrow to try
to understand the first letter it didn't go on first letter when I right
arrow it took me to another word

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 Document,email and website

tell me if I'm understanding correctly, you want to hear the word
spelled out instead of having to move letter by letter as you navigate
by word?

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@gmail.com]
Subject: Jaws2021 Document,email and website
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2021, 3:15 PM
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Hi All

I have desktop and laptop computer windows10  ,When I’m on
document,email and website  I’m trying to right arrow on words each
letter  when I hear the word said lifesaver  when I press right arrow it
not saying letter l I f and etc for example on document ,email and
website  if I’m not sure if I understand the word correctly  and want to
right arrow to each letter  where it can said f for foxtrapand etc .
Does anyone know what I need to to get jaws said each letter ?

Addison


moderated can't rename folder in Outlook 2016

Mario
 

I'm trying to help an acquaintance where he wants to rename a folder, but cannot seem to do so. he has tried pressing F2 when he goes to the existing folder, but nothing happens. I have found a Youtube video that implied clicking on the file menu and then rename, but it doesn't work for him. what else can he do?


moderated Re: Jaws2021 Document,email and website

Mario
 

tell me if I'm understanding correctly, you want to hear the word spelled out instead of having to move letter by letter as you navigate by word?

-------- Original Message --------
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:o.addisongethers@gmail.com]
Subject: Jaws2021 Document,email and website
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2021, 3:15 PM
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Hi All

I have desktop and laptop computer windows10  ,When I’m on
document,email and website  I’m trying to right arrow on words each
letter  when I hear the word said lifesaver  when I press right arrow it
not saying letter l I f and etc for example on document ,email and
website  if I’m not sure if I understand the word correctly  and want to
right arrow to each letter  where it can said f for foxtrapand etc .
Does anyone know what I need to to get jaws said each letter ?

Addison


moderated Jaws2021 Document,email and website

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All

I have desktop and laptop computer windows10  ,When I’m on document,email and website  I’m trying to right arrow on words each letter  when I hear the word said lifesaver  when I press right arrow it not saying letter l I f and etc for example on document ,email and website  if I’m not sure if I understand the word correctly  and want to right arrow to each letter  where it can said f for foxtrapand etc . Does anyone know what I need to to get jaws said each letter ?

Addison


moderated Re: Do Any Of You Use Spotify?

Paul Faucheux
 

hi rick. spotify is indeed accessible with jaws 2021. i use it everyday. i can help u with any questions you have. please email me at pf112781@... with any questions you may have.


On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 7:30 AM Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:

Dear Listers:

 

Do any of you use Spotify, the music program?  If so, how compatible is it with the latest version of JAWS?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Thanks Phillip,

That is all the instruction I need.

 

Later,

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

Richard, go to your device manager. Go to sound. Go to properties on your Realtek driver. Tell it to update driver. You'll have to browse for the driver on your computer. Browse for something like High Definition Audio.

Sorry My instructions aren't better. I am typing this on a phone. If you need more detailed instructions let me know, and I'll write them up when I get home.


moderated Fw: slightly off topic: re: can you adjust the volume on each ear separately on the OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver?

Hank William Merchant
 

 
 

From: Hank William Merchant
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 4:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: re: the OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver
 
 
 
Good afternoon,
 
Since these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver loud earphones are dual input capability earphones, does this maybe mean that I can hopefully have jaws talking to me in only say my right hand side ear, so this way I can hear for sure jaws really good in my right hand side ear and
I can keep my left hand side ear clear to hear very good only customers in my left hand side ear that I am talking to in received incoming customer service calls in a call centre?
 
Also wondering as far as the loud volume capability goes for these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver  earphones, is there maybe a separate volume adjustment knob for each ear?
 
Any help with these important above questions concerning these particular OneOdio dual input earphones would be so very much appreciated! Thanks very much in advance for any help I can maybe get with this!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Kindest regards,
 
Hank
 
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?
 

And in looking these up there are many options including lighter weight foldable ones and even some with dual inputs and Bluetooth like this:

https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=OneOdio+Over+Ear+Headphones+Studio+Wired+Bass+Headsets+with+50mm+Driver&ref=nb_sb_noss

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

I hesitated to post this here initially as it is a Jaws list.  However given the persistence of interest I did a recent review on a pair of cheap headphones which would meet all these access requirements.

Review

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

 

Occasionally a mainstream product emerges which inadvertently meets all sorts of accessibility needs. The OneOdio Over Ear Headphone certainly do that, despite being described as D. J> Head pones, and their capacity for dual input may make them an important affordable access solution in the workplace.

 

Ironically access was not really considered when these headphones were ordered. They were a Christmas present from my daughter who was most interested in their noise cancelling aspect. The hope was that this would protect both herself and my wife from the sound of NVDA and Jaws leaking out whilst they were listening to the Television.

My deaf ears makes my listening volume loud and can disturb others with leakage.

 

Certainly these headphones reduce leakage and I now receive requests to switch back to them if I am using a different pair.

 

For general usage they are very pleasant wired headphones , with a good powerful bass sound. they are light if slightly bulky for portable usage. They are rated as the number 1 Amazon best seller for D. J Headphones.

They are also very reasonably priced at £34.99.

There are however 3 more important access features of these headphones.

 

The first access plus is the headphone loudness.

Prolonged loud headphone volume is undeniably dangerous for people with normal hearing. People with normal or mildly impaired hearing should heed all the warnings. However for people like me with congenital severe deafness it is essential to find headphones which can pump out volume. Pretty much every year I end up giving away headphones or earphones which are useless as they are just too quiet. Without suitable head pones producing sufficient volume I would be incapable of typing this review, making a pone call or listening to my Audio books Radio and Music.

Luckily these headphones are well capable of providing the necessary pump.

 

The second access capability is that they have sufficient headband tension to enable precise placement adjacent to or over my hearing aids. Lots of head pones are unusable with hearing aids as it is impossible to prevent high pitched feedback whistling without this precise placement.

 

Thirdly and probably most importantly is that these headphones can be used in dual input mode.

There are 2 input ports for the headphones.

The right ear receives an old style 6.5 mm headphone plug which has a normal 3.5mm plug at the other end of the cable. This cable is partly coiled to connect easily over distance too computers and other audio devices.

The left ear receives a small 2.5mm plug which via a shorter cable, connects to a normal 3.5mm plug. This cable includes an inline remote control and mic for playing and pausing, answering phone calls etc. This shorted cable is clearly suitable for connecting to any phone capable of receiving wired headphones.

I have tested this cable with my Google Pixel 4A and my old iPhone SE first generation via a lightning audio cable adapter. It worked as expected with both devices. It also worked with my Victor reader Trek and even paused and played via the remote inline control like the phones.

It received audio from my blind Shell Classic phone and Evo 10 Daisy Player but not surprisingly these devices did not respond to the inline remote control.

 

What I did not immediately appreciate is that it is possible to have both these input sources simultaneously connected.

So whilst I am typing this review I am also connected to my Blind Shell Classic phone. I am able to operate the phone, make and receive calls, all at the same time being able to consult my computer via my screenreader. If I need to make notes whilst listening to a call this is straightforward .

In the past this would be a struggle for me. For example I used to do Internet grocery shopping for my Mother in law, in her 90s. This involved me ringing her but also having to navigate the Sainsburys Web site on my PC. On several occasions I resorted to wearing 2 paris of headphones, one on top the other to try and complete this tricky process.

I would also have found these headphones an invaluable aid in work. In those days I relied on memory, clattering down notes immediately after the call.

More expensive phone and mixing devices were available , I remember using such a device at the RNIB but these headpones are a far easier, cheaper option.

 

I am, in summary, not sure what there is not to like. These are not a blue tooth option which is a plus for me because of issues i can describe another day.

Details from the Amazon Website below, and finally a link  to the UK Amazon below that.

David Griffith

 

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

Large, 50 millimeter speaker unit drivers combined with neodymium magnets provides stereo Hi-Fi level sound; powerful bass, clear vocal, and crisp high tones form perfect balanced sound.

• A standard-sized 3.5mm plug aux cable with mic are included (make it a headphone with mic. A long, DJ-style 9.8ft cord with 6.35 plug easily reaches from the TV or stereo to your sofa. They both are completely detachable, so that you don't need to spend all hours of the day plugged into your mixer.

• 90° swiveling earcups for single-ear monitoring anytime; self-adjustable and flexible headband delivers a fatigue-free listening experience that can last for hours, perfect for mastering and mixing.

• Luxuriously padded ear cushions are specifically designed for monitor headphones maximum comfort and noise isolation. The headband is adjustable and stretchable for you to find the desired angle you like to fit in.

• With the sleek design and high-end sound quality, OneOdio headphones are made for smart phones, all Androids, tablets, mp3 players, and related devices. OneOdio offers 30 days money back, 24-month guarantee and 24 hours friendly after service

 

Link to Amazon page.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Headphones-Monitoring-Neodymium-Headsets-Standard-Version/dp/B01MZHAX5S

 

I post the below from my blog.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 15 June 2021 16:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

And if you work for a call centre you should talk to your boss regarding a custom solution where you have Jaws on one ear and your phone call on the other. This is definitely possible with wired headsets, probably more difficult with Bluetooth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

Hank,It sounds like ideally, you want something that would allow you to only use one ear; and what I remember about the Bose is that it would be very difficult to remove the left, or position it so your work headset could be worn.

 

Loudness somewhat depends on your system and the Jaws setting, but if you could use a Bluetooth single ear piece, there are lots of choices from Plantronics.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

 

 

Good morning Phillip,

 

I am personally looking for a very loud pair of good earphones so I will be able to hear jaws loud enough in only my right hand side ear, (I have a bit of hearing loss in my right hand side ear), because I will not be able to use my other ear to also hear jaws, because I will need to use my left hand side ear solely to hear properly incoming cusstomer calls and talk to them through a separte one ear headset with a mike at an incoming calls call centre.

 

Can you maybe please tell me if these Bose QC 35 II headphones are quite loud? Any help you can maybe give me with this would be so very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any help!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

__ 

 

From: Phillip Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:18 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

It helps to know what you are looking to spend. The options at $50 are a lot different than the $300 options.

I personally use the Bose QC 35 II headphones. I have had them for about 3 years now and use them daily. I would estimate I wear them an average of 8 hours a day including weekends. I use them for work and personal use. They have a Bluetooth option, and I do use it, but most of the time I plug them into my computer or iPad. The battery is supposed to last 20 hours if you’re using Bluetooth and 40 hours if they are plugged into a 3.5 jack and you’re just using noise canceling. The foam began coming out of the ear pieces about a year ago, but I replaced them for about $30.

 


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Phillip Gross
 

Richard, go to your device manager. Go to sound. Go to properties on your Realtek driver. Tell it to update driver. You'll have to browse for the driver on your computer. Browse for something like High Definition Audio.

Sorry My instructions aren't better. I am typing this on a phone. If you need more detailed instructions let me know, and I'll write them up when I get home.


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Dave Durber
 


Philip:
 
Have you turned off the Advanced settings for the "High Definition Audio driver", if you have not, by doing so, you should find that the audio does not have the effect you describe.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

This is an old thread, but I wanted to post the solution in here. That way, if anyone else has the same issues and searches the list, it is available.

When I started the thread, I mentioned that I didn’t think it was JAWS, but I was grasping at straws and checking all possibilities. It was not Jaws. It was the culprit we spent half of this thread discussing, MaxxAudio.

The problem with disabling MaxxAudio in startup is that your headphones are no longer recognized. So don’t use the Realtek driver with Maxxaudio. I switched to the High Definition Audio driver, and I haven’t had any issues for the last month. It does make the internal speakers on the laptop sound tinny, but if you’re using external speakers or headphones that isn’t a problem.


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Philip,

This is no doubt revealing my ignorance, but where did you go to change the driver?

 

My laptop speakers already sound tinny, so I avoid using them anyway.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

This is an old thread, but I wanted to post the solution in here. That way, if anyone else has the same issues and searches the list, it is available.

When I started the thread, I mentioned that I didn’t think it was JAWS, but I was grasping at straws and checking all possibilities. It was not Jaws. It was the culprit we spent half of this thread discussing, MaxxAudio.

The problem with disabling MaxxAudio in startup is that your headphones are no longer recognized. So don’t use the Realtek driver with Maxxaudio. I switched to the High Definition Audio driver, and I haven’t had any issues for the last month. It does make the internal speakers on the laptop sound tinny, but if you’re using external speakers or headphones that isn’t a problem.


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Phillip Gross
 

This is an old thread, but I wanted to post the solution in here. That way, if anyone else has the same issues and searches the list, it is available.

When I started the thread, I mentioned that I didn’t think it was JAWS, but I was grasping at straws and checking all possibilities. It was not Jaws. It was the culprit we spent half of this thread discussing, MaxxAudio.

The problem with disabling MaxxAudio in startup is that your headphones are no longer recognized. So don’t use the Realtek driver with Maxxaudio. I switched to the High Definition Audio driver, and I haven’t had any issues for the last month. It does make the internal speakers on the laptop sound tinny, but if you’re using external speakers or headphones that isn’t a problem.


moderated Re: Solenzio

Dave Durber
 


Brian:
 
In addition, Silenzio will prevent certain USB sound cards from going to sleep. I have a Creative Labs USB sound card which, if Silenzio is not installed, goes to sleep after a while and stays a sleep. The only way to get it to work again, is to restart Windows 10. I have another problem in that, if Silenzio is not installed, and I am using JAWS 2021, and I run the latest version of Kertzweil 1000, Kertzweil will freeze, during the conversion process but, it does not, when I run JAWS 2020. The JAWS function, :Avoid speech cut off when using Blue Tooth headphones or some sound cards" when checked, does not work for this particular USB sound card. Mind you, in Windows 7, I never, ever,  had the problem of any sound card goingh to sleep at all.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: Solenzio

On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 09:57 AM, james hooper wrote:
What does this program do?
-
If you are using a Bluetooth audio output device, the purpose of Silenzio is to play an endless loop of silence so that the device cannot be put into sleep mode by Windows.  As a power saving mechanism Bluetooth devices are put to sleep after a period of inactivity.  For most of them, that doesn't matter, as the reawakening is more than quick enough that you have no idea they were asleep.  But with audio devices and screen readers, a sleeping device will often not reawaken fast enough to play the first little bit of what the screen reader is saying.  How big that "little bit" happens to be varies from computer to computer and Bluetooth output devices.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Solenzio

Mike B.
 

Hi Marie,
 
Yes that's true, but it was corrected in 2021.2012.48.  I'm sorry I didn't state this yesterday, but I just found the note to verify.  Read below.
 
• You can now have both the Avoid speech cut off when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards and Lower audio volume of programs while JAWS
speaks options enabled at the same time in Settings Center. Previously, these two
features could not be used together.
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Solenzio

When using Silenzio, you can still use audio ducking, which I prefer. If you turn the feature to Avoid the delay in Jaws settings, you must disable audio ducking.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Solenzio

 

Hi Marie,

 

A new feature came out in one of the J2020 versions that does this same thing.  Read below for details.

 

Note: The new setting is explained after the 2 emails.
 Original Message 

From: Jessica D
Hi, 

I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled. 

I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.

Thanks,

Jessica

 

From: Bill White

Hi, Jessica. The reason the new setting in JAWS to keep sound cards awake is not enabled while Audio Ducking is enabled is because, while audio is being
ducked, another application is running which uses the sound card. If another application is using the sound card, that application will usually keep the
sound card awake, independently of JAWS. 

Bill White 

 


New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking  
Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS
now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will
remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature,
open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to
load
the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using
Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards."
 
Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you
choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the
Audio Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while
JAWS speaks.
 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie

Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 4:39 PM

Subject: Solenzio

 

Could someone please post a link for the Solenzio utility? Thanks much, Marie

 


moderated Re: Toggle volume control notifications from external multimedia devices

Bill White
 

Hi, Russell. Thank you for clarifying for me what that grave accent command does in layered commands. Is this command available anywhere in the JAWS Settings Center? I don't think so. I did a search, and couldn't come up with anything that resembles this command within JAWS Settings Center.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Toggle volume control notifications from external multimedia devices

 

ÎHi Bill,

 

I think what this refers to is keyboards that have a volume button or control on them. I have a DAS mechanical keyboard that has a volume control knob at the right side, and in previous versions of JAWS, whenever I'd change the volume using this knob, JAWS would say, "Volume 20%, volume 21 %, volume 22%, volume 23%" etc. It was quite annoying, and I'm so glad they fixed it in JAWS 2021. Not sure why anyone would turn on this feature to have JAWS announce the volume levels. At least I think that's what you are referring to.

 

Cheers,

 

Russell

Russell Solowoniuk

C: 780-994-7763

 

 



On Jun 26, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

 

What does the command "Toggle Volume Control Notifications For External Multimedia Devices" in JAWS 2021 do? It is found in the INSERT plus SPACE layered commands, and is toggled by grave accent. I don't know to what they are referring when they use the term "External Multimedia Devices". I also don't know what notifications would be received from the volume control of multimedia devices.

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

Bill White

 

 

 


moderated Re: Solenzio

 

On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 09:57 AM, james hooper wrote:
What does this program do?
-
If you are using a Bluetooth audio output device, the purpose of Silenzio is to play an endless loop of silence so that the device cannot be put into sleep mode by Windows.  As a power saving mechanism Bluetooth devices are put to sleep after a period of inactivity.  For most of them, that doesn't matter, as the reawakening is more than quick enough that you have no idea they were asleep.  But with audio devices and screen readers, a sleeping device will often not reawaken fast enough to play the first little bit of what the screen reader is saying.  How big that "little bit" happens to be varies from computer to computer and Bluetooth output devices.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Solenzio

Marie <scribbles.mn@...>
 

When using Silenzio, you can still use audio ducking, which I prefer. If you turn the feature to Avoid the delay in Jaws settings, you must disable audio ducking.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 9:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Solenzio

 

Hi Marie,

 

A new feature came out in one of the J2020 versions that does this same thing.  Read below for details.

 

Note: The new setting is explained after the 2 emails.
 Original Message 

From: Jessica D
Hi, 

I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled. 

I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.

Thanks,

Jessica

 

From: Bill White

Hi, Jessica. The reason the new setting in JAWS to keep sound cards awake is not enabled while Audio Ducking is enabled is because, while audio is being
ducked, another application is running which uses the sound card. If another application is using the sound card, that application will usually keep the
sound card awake, independently of JAWS. 

Bill White 

 

 
New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking  
Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS
now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will
remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature,
open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to
load
the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using
Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards."
 
Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you
choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the
Audio Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while
JAWS speaks.
 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie

Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 4:39 PM

Subject: Solenzio

 

Could someone please post a link for the Solenzio utility? Thanks much, Marie

 


moderated Re: Toggle volume control notifications from external multimedia devices

Russell Solowoniuk
 

ÎHi Bill,

I think what this refers to is keyboards that have a volume button or control on them. I have a DAS mechanical keyboard that has a volume control knob at the right side, and in previous versions of JAWS, whenever I'd change the volume using this knob, JAWS would say, "Volume 20%, volume 21 %, volume 22%, volume 23%" etc. It was quite annoying, and I'm so glad they fixed it in JAWS 2021. Not sure why anyone would turn on this feature to have JAWS announce the volume levels. At least I think that's what you are referring to.

Cheers,

Russell
Russell Solowoniuk
C: 780-994-7763



On Jun 26, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

What does the command "Toggle Volume Control Notifications For External Multimedia Devices" in JAWS 2021 do? It is found in the INSERT plus SPACE layered commands, and is toggled by grave accent. I don't know to what they are referring when they use the term "External Multimedia Devices". I also don't know what notifications would be received from the volume control of multimedia devices.
 
Thank you.
 
 
 
Bill White
 
 

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