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moderated thoughts on leading a meeting via web-conferenc

Van Lant, Robin
 

Hi,

I’d like to chew on a topic with you all on effectively leading virtual meetings.  Specifically, I’m trying to gauge if I’m being too hard on myself or if others have figured out good techniques to deal with the challenges I’m facing.  Here at my company we currently use Webex, although I’ve heard we may switch to Zoom soon.  I’m fine with joining meetings and can participate in meetings well enough.  Accessibility of Webex with JAWS is really lacking, but some of my questions may still exist if it worked better with JAWS or I was using Zoom.  here are my two main questions:

 

#1 Chat windows:

Larger meetings I’m on have really been using the chat function. JAWS will often catch chats while they come in, but this can also cover up what the presenter is saying.  I just figure  I will miss this aspect, which is only problematic if I want to ask a question and the presenter only allows chat questions.  If I’m leading the meeting, I specifically ask people to unmute to ask a question or I have a colleague read any questions that come in through chat.  It seems that juggling this, even if you can technically navigate to and read the chat windows with JAWs would still be really cumbersome.  Do any of  you have tips for managing chats during a meeting? 

 

#2 Sharing a presentation:

In a professional context, I often need to share a PowerPoint slide show.  For big meetings, I’ll usually have a colleague share the slides and advance them for me, allowing me to read my speaking points from a Word document. Is this what others do?  Are any of you successful in presenting slides and having JAWS read them at the same time so that you can be following along with what is on the slide you are currently presenting? IS this where a Braille display would work better than speech alone?  I’m not a proficient Braille reader, especially when nervous, so I don’t’ thin k Braille display is the answer for me, but curious to know if that does work for people.

 

I’m also curious to understand what sighted people see when video is on.  I was on a presentation  earlier today and could tell that a slide was on the screen, but wasn’t sure of the visual display of attendees and the speaker’s video, but I guess I’ll ask a friend or AIRA agent for that. I’m sure it varies based on settings. I just hope the camera angle was OK when it was my turn to talk. 

 

Using JAWS 2021, Office 365 and Windows 10.

 



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moderated Re: Question on MySQL

Jason White
 


On 21/6/21 10:08 pm, Betsy Binney wrote:

Does anyone know if JAWS will work with the MySQL database program?  I need to use it for a project that I am working on.  If so does anyone know how to navigate it?  I need it to read the line numbers in the programming.

You should be able to run it from the command line. At least, that's how it works under Linux.

Also, MariaDB appears to be where most of the MySQL development is happening nowadays, and it may be preferable. I don't use either personally, but I know for sure that they're command line tools that you can run and enter your SQL queries.


moderated Re: facebook

Justin Williams
 

Freedomscientific , or whaever they are calling themselves, has webinars on facebook.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 4:36 PM
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Subject: facebook

 

Can somebody tell

Me  step by step instructions

On how to navigate using jaws on how to post a  message

Thanks roy

 

DeWayne

 

 


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moderated Question on MySQL

Betsy Binney
 

Greetings one and all and Happy Summer,

 

Does anyone know if JAWS will work with the MySQL database program?  I need to use it for a project that I am working on.  If so does anyone know how to navigate it?  I need it to read the line numbers in the programming.

 

Betsy

 

Betsy Binney

 


moderated facebook

Roymeister1960@...
 

Can somebody tell

Me  step by step instructions

On how to navigate using jaws on how to post a  message

Thanks roy

 

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moderated Re: online banks

Don H
 

I have both edge and google chrome set to not save passwords.

On 6/21/2021 5:21 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Don. Did you check that Edge and Chrome are not putting characters into the username and password fields? If you have ever saved your passwords in Edge or Chrome, they will try to do this. If you then try to enter your ID or password, it will show them to be invalid, since they have already entered characters into those fields.
Bill White
billwhite92701@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks
I can get to the screen to enter my user ID and PassWord but when I hit
enter I get a message stating:
Our system is experiencing technical difficulties at the moment. Please
try again later. Code: undefined
On 6/21/2021 1:30 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Don. What problem exactly are you having with Synchrony
Bank? Do you get an error message? Is something not being displayed that should be displayed?

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks

I have both a Sams Club and Lowes credit card that comes from Synchrony
Bank. For the past several weeks I have not been able to use there web
site to check such things as balance or payment due. This problem only
happens on a laptop that is using the latest version of Windows which is
21.h and using the latest version of Edge or Google Chrome.. Their web
site works fine with older versions of windows.













moderated Re: online banks

Bill White
 

Hi, Don. Did you check that Edge and Chrome are not putting characters into the username and password fields? If you have ever saved your passwords in Edge or Chrome, they will try to do this. If you then try to enter your ID or password, it will show them to be invalid, since they have already entered characters into those fields.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks

I can get to the screen to enter my user ID and PassWord but when I hit
enter I get a message stating:
Our system is experiencing technical difficulties at the moment. Please
try again later. Code: undefined

On 6/21/2021 1:30 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Don. What problem exactly are you having with Synchrony
Bank? Do you get an error message? Is something not being displayed that should be displayed?

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks

I have both a Sams Club and Lowes credit card that comes from Synchrony
Bank. For the past several weeks I have not been able to use there web
site to check such things as balance or payment due. This problem only
happens on a laptop that is using the latest version of Windows which is
21.h and using the latest version of Edge or Google Chrome.. Their web
site works fine with older versions of windows.













moderated Re: questions about the home annual license

Vicky Collins
 

Well, grin, looks like I sort of got all three of my original questions answered.

First, as to changing my email address for the Home Annual license, I emailed the info at FS address and asked them if it was possible to change the email address online and explained that that part of the updating of the profile didn't seem to work for me. Although I didn't get back a personal response addressing my difficulty, I did get back an email to my old address advising me of the address change, and I got back an email to the new address with a link to click on to reset my password, something the email said was necessary for me to do to make the email address change.

Second, as to being able to reactivate a computer on the Home Annual license once it has been deactivated, that got answered on Saturday when I found that video of someone demonstrating being able to do that very thing.

And third, as to what would happen with the ElBraille once the license was deactivated, once I deactivated the license on the ElBraille while the ElBraille was turned off, doing so from my iPhone, I then turned the ElBraille back on. And since my internet is via hotspot from my phone and I hadn't yet turned that back on and thus the ElBraille wasn't connected to the internet, I was still showing as having that license active on the ElBraille when I checked the about box for JAWS. However, when I turned on hotspot on my iPhone and the ElBraille got connected, I actually lost speech and had to use the emergency menu on the ElBraille to restart JAWS. And when I did that, you guessed it, I had a demo version, but then I was able to reactivate the license on the ElBraille without a problem.

Fourth, although not really one of my original questions, I did purposely opt to give the Home Annual license a try when that discount for it became available around convention time last year. I also am and was aware of the three activations with each type of license. As to just which of the licenses I will opt to keep, I actually haven't made up my mind yet. As of now, the SMA is cheaper in the long run, but I do like the ease with which one can move their licenses around with the Home Annual.

Anyway, this has been kind of interesting, and paying the extra to learn about the Home Annual license while learning about the ElBraille was by far a lot cheaper than the mistake of buying the Braille Sense Polaris and mostly just letting it sit in the drawer. In fact, that's why I looked for a deal for a used ElBraille rather than purchase a new one, although I do believe I'm going to like the ElBraille much more than the Polaris once I get through the learning curve.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: "main@jfw.groups.io" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, June 20, 2021 9:10 am
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license



Sieghard,
I believe things got confused with the side chatter about the home annual license.
She has the SMA on her computer.
She bought a used El Braille and that was on the home annual license.

She thought she couldn't activate the El Braille on her SMA, but when she calls FS, she will find she can.

HTH,

Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 5:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license

Vicky is talking about the annual licence which means the subscription-based licencing. As far as I know you can activate up to 3 computers with one Jaws subscription and only if you want to use it on more than 3 computers would you have to deactivate it from one in order to activate it on another.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license

I believe FS has no problem with you having your SMA Jaws on two devices. I know you can have it on your home and work computers, no problem.

But, all your questions will be best answered by FS staff.

Good luck,



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: questions about the home annual license

Of course I can contact Freedom Scientific, and will likely do so early next week, but I figured I would ask here first just in case.

First, when logging into the portal for the home annual license and then going to the place to update ones profile, for some reason, updating the email address doesn't seem to be available. There's a checkbox to have a reminder sent when it's time to renew the license, but that won't help a lot if the person has changed their email address. So am I missing something here, or is it just not possible to update the email address online?

Second, I just recently purchased a used ElBraille 14 from someone, and I wanted to have that JAWS license separate from my SMA license for my main computer, so I could use them both at the same time if I wanted. That's why my questions now about the home annual license, as I just activated it for the ElBraille. Never mind, grin, that I've had this license for some time now, getting it a discount around convention time last year, and so only have a little over a couple of months on it left. Anyway, best I can tell, one is able to log in to the portal and deactivate and active license, or perhaps I should say an active use of that license. Thus, just out of curiosity, if I were to log into the portal and deactivate the ElBraille from another computer or phone, would the ElBraille automatically go into demo mode on boot up if not connected to the internet, or would the full license still work until I connected to the internet? Also, if I were to deactivate the license on the ElBraille, I'm assuming I could reactivate it again if still during the term of the license?

My activation questions are more of a curiosity thing, especially since being used to notetakers and not using a braille display to work the computer, it took me forever to figure out how to write the at sign on the ElBraille so I could get logged into the portal to activate the thing, so I plan to leave it activated. It's going to be quite a learning curve going from the U2 Mini and occasional use of the Polaris to the ElBraille, but I'm looking forward to it.

















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moderated Re: online banks

tina sohl
 

Has anyone tried either chime or green bank? I understand them to be online only banks but accessible through many local retailers. We work with Wells Fargo and have had great success. Both with the app and a website. The only thing we have not tried through Wells Fargo is deposits mobile through the app for those we go to the ATM generally and tend to do fine.


On Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 11:30 AM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Don. What problem exactly are you having with Synchrony
Bank? Do you get an error message? Is something not being displayed that should be displayed?

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks

I have both a Sams Club and Lowes credit card that comes from Synchrony
Bank.  For the past several weeks I have not been able to use there web
site to check such things as balance or payment due.  This problem only
happens on a laptop that is using the latest version of Windows which is
21.h and using the latest version of Edge or Google Chrome..  Their web
site works fine with older versions of windows.













moderated Re: question on subscribing the scripting list

John Covici
 

I think the subscription has to be approved by the moderator.

On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 15:42:19 -0400,
aaron lane wrote:

I can't remember how by email, but you can subscribe from this link.

https://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts


On 6/21/2021 2:37 PM, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:
Hello,

Thanks to the people on this list for posting the e-mail address to
subscribe to the scripting list.

I sent a message to that address, but I have not received a confirmation
that I have joined the list.

I sent one e-mail with a blank subject line, and then I sent a second e-mail
to that list with subscribe in the subject.

Do I need to do something different to get subscribed to the scripting list.

Thanks,

Jeff










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moderated Re: question on subscribing the scripting list

aaron lane
 

I can't remember how by email, but you can subscribe from this link.

https://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts

On 6/21/2021 2:37 PM, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:
Hello,

Thanks to the people on this list for posting the e-mail address to
subscribe to the scripting list.

I sent a message to that address, but I have not received a confirmation
that I have joined the list.

I sent one e-mail with a blank subject line, and then I sent a second e-mail
to that list with subscribe in the subject.

Do I need to do something different to get subscribed to the scripting list.

Thanks,

Jeff







moderated question on subscribing the scripting list

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hello,

Thanks to the people on this list for posting the e-mail address to subscribe to the scripting list.

I sent a message to that address, but I have not received a confirmation that I have joined the list.

I sent one e-mail with a blank subject line, and then I sent a second e-mail to that list with subscribe in the subject.

Do I need to do something different to get subscribed to the scripting list.

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: creating an electronic copy

tom x
 

Thanks for your reply and suggestion Rick.


Cheers


Tom

On 21/06/2021 7:39 pm, Richard Justice wrote:
Hi Tom,
You can use the Windows Fax and Scan , making sure to use the document
profile, and save the image and attach it to an e-mail.
Since this is a picture of the document, all formatting should be retained.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "tom x" <ballistic719@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 4:06 PM
Subject: creating an electronic copy


Hi,


Hoping someone can assist me with my problem.


I have been sent a three page .pdf file which contains one page of
questions which require me to answer, sign and email back to the sender.


A sighted person can fill out the now printed page for me but my
question is how to convert the completed form into an electronic copy
which can be attached to an email?



I can gain access to a copy of Kurzweil 1000 v14 but thephoto copier
utility seems to only allow the copy to be printed rather than being
saved in an electronic format.


Is there anyway Kurzweil, Windows 10 or Jaws 2021 can be used to create
an electronic copy of the completed document while retaining the
original format?


Thanks


Tom












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moderated Re: online banks

Don H
 

I can get to the screen to enter my user ID and PassWord but when I hit enter I get a message stating:
Our system is experiencing technical difficulties at the moment. Please try again later. Code: undefined

On 6/21/2021 1:30 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Don. What problem exactly are you having with Synchrony
Bank? Do you get an error message? Is something not being displayed that should be displayed?
Bill White
billwhite92701@att.net
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks
I have both a Sams Club and Lowes credit card that comes from Synchrony
Bank. For the past several weeks I have not been able to use there web
site to check such things as balance or payment due. This problem only
happens on a laptop that is using the latest version of Windows which is
21.h and using the latest version of Edge or Google Chrome.. Their web
site works fine with older versions of windows.


moderated Re: Scripting List

Steven Hicks
 

Thanks so much.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: 21 June 2021 19:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scripting List

jawsscripts@freelists.org

On 6/21/2021 1:39 PM, Steven Hicks wrote:
Can anyone remind me of the jaws scripting list subscription address
please?









moderated Re: Scripting List

aaron lane
 

jawsscripts@freelists.org

On 6/21/2021 1:39 PM, Steven Hicks wrote:
Can anyone remind me of the jaws scripting list subscription address please?







moderated Scripting List

Steven Hicks
 

Can anyone remind me of the jaws scripting list subscription address please?

 


moderated Re: online banks

Bill White
 

Hi, Don. What problem exactly are you having with Synchrony
Bank? Do you get an error message? Is something not being displayed that should be displayed?

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks

I have both a Sams Club and Lowes credit card that comes from Synchrony
Bank. For the past several weeks I have not been able to use there web
site to check such things as balance or payment due. This problem only
happens on a laptop that is using the latest version of Windows which is
21.h and using the latest version of Edge or Google Chrome.. Their web
site works fine with older versions of windows.


moderated Re: online banks

Don H
 

I have both a Sams Club and Lowes credit card that comes from Synchrony Bank. For the past several weeks I have not been able to use there web site to check such things as balance or payment due. This problem only happens on a laptop that is using the latest version of Windows which is 21.h and using the latest version of Edge or Google Chrome.. Their web site works fine with older versions of windows.


moderated Re: online banks

Mich Verrier
 

I bank with RBC and it’s accessible from much

On Jun 21, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@att.net> wrote:

I bank with Bank of America, and it is also accessible.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: online banks

I bank with Chase Bank and their website as accessible as well as their
iPhone app.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@twc.com


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jun 20, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Juan Hernandez <juanhernandez98@gmail.com>
wrote:

HI everyone,

I have been with Simple Bank, simple.com for the last few years and I just
loved their accessibility. They just got bought out by BBVA USA and their
accessibility has gone down the drain hugely.

What online banks do you guys recommend that are accessible? And also have
good service, and are just good banks?

Any advice is appreciated.

Best,

Juan











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