Date   

moderated Re: New Win OS?

 

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Microsoft has a commitment to accessibility,
-
Not to mention that the article title used by WindowsCentral to describe the October 2021 (or thereabouts) update is:  Microsoft plans big Windows 10 UI refresh in 2021 codenamed 'Sun Valley'

Other tech press says pretty much the same thing.  This is not going to be anything like the transition from Windows 7 to Windows 8, which was a complete shift in design idiom, which was partially reversed by Windows 10 on its introduction.  It is, for the most part, a refresh of the visual aspects of the UI (the previews of which I don't like, as the flat look is getting even flatter and everything's getting "more square cornered"), not a major change to how Windows 10 has been working for some time now.

There will, of course, be bumps, as there always are for the major feature updates.  But everything you already know and are familiar with how to use is not likely to change one iota.  And for someone who cannot see, what the UI looks like is irrelevant.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: New Win OS?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Microsoft has a commitment to accessibility, they have a dedicated team for this and for making Narrator more of a full-featured screenreader and this process is certainly ongoing and that is really all we need to know. Will there be potential setbacks? Very likely, in large corporations like Microsoft there is often a bit of a disconnect and even rivalry between teams who work on certain projects or aspects of the same platform, but overall none of these large companies will ever abandon accessibility as a priority especially not as time passes and more and more people experience limitations to various degrees whether it's hearing or vision, motor or cognitive.

For the most part we do live in a time which presents never before experienced opportunities for blind people and others with disabilities, yes, I know there is still a disproportionate number of unemployed blind people, but there are also a lot of blind and visually impaired people who have completed advanced education degrees and who work in jobs which were not available even a few decades ago. When I lost my sight in 1984 at the age of 16 back in Germany many older people in my small town felt a lot of pity for me and my family, they thought my life was over and my family would be burdened with me for the rest of my life. I doubt many of them would have never even imagined that a few years later I would immigrate to Canada, complete a Bachelor degree in business and start a retail store where I now own a beautifully renovated building and employ 2 full-time and 2-3 part-time employees. I have other friends who went to school with me in Germany who are judges, lawyers, computer scientists and more. All of it is because technology makes it possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 3:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

What we need is, someone from Microsoft to tell us.
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: 08 June 2021 00:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

Albert:

I hear what you are saying about new technology, and the need to keep up with it.

But, weren't we promised by Microsoft at one point that there would be no new operating system beyond Windows 10, with all future changes being implemented within that particular operating system?

Maybe I'm loosing my mind, but I swear I read that info from several credible sources.

If this new operating system is really going to happen, I truly wonder how many people will go for it, especially since we all (or many of us) just upgraded to Windows 10 fairly recently.

Ok, I'll stop my rant now.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

Good evening Randy,

Thanks for sharing this news and for posting it too the list. My question here is, if we all have windows 10 on our computers, will this new windows operating system enable us too get it as an upgrade, or will we be forced too purchase it through Microsoft. Also, I'm wondering if Jaws or Vespero is aware of this change to windows, and its new operating system. Looks like for us, it's going to be catch up time once again, and another learning curve that we'll have too deal with. But I suppose, that is what technology is all about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Win OS?Al,
System
Well, Here we go again. Not looking forward to another complete OS overhaul...

[tech-vi Announce List] Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Central - News, Forums, Reviews, Help for Windows 10 and all things Microsoft. - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:36 PM

Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Event
Source: Microsoft

What you need to know
list of 3 items
• Microsoft is holding a Windows event on June 24.
• It plans to unveil the "next generation of Windows."
• The event is online and will be publicly broadcast live starting at 11 AM ET.
list end

Microsoft
has announced
an event taking place on June 24 where it will unveil the next generation of Windows. The event will be online, and begin at 11AM Eastern Time. The company is expected to unveil a new user interface and feature set for Windows, and possibly position this new version of Windows as "Windows 11."

The company has been working on a complete rejuvenation of the Windows Desktop user interface (codenamed Sun Valley) for some time, and this event will be where the company finally shows off what it's been building. Windows 10 has been the latest version of Windows for six years, and has remained much the same.

Sun Valley is expected to deliver a new Start menu and Taskbar layout, icons, sounds, app designs, and fluid animations. Microsoft may take this user experience rejuvenation effort as a chance to ship a "new" version of Windows, and we think it could possibly fall under the Windows 11
moniker. We'll have to wait and see what Microsoft actually does at the event on June 24.

block quote
What do you think it'll be called?

— Zac Bowden (@zacbowden)
June 2, 2021
block quote end

Microsoft recently canceled plans to ship a new version of Windows called Windows 10X, which was built on a modern version of the OS called Windows Core OS.
Windows 10X was first going to ship on dual-screen PCs like the Surface Neo before being repositioned as a platform that would compete against Chromebooks in the low-end market.

The company has announced that it will be bringing the best of Windows 10X to the full version of Windows now that 10X isn't coming. Perhaps we'll see the result of that at this event on June 24.

What are you hoping to see at the event? Let us know in the comments.

We may earn a commission for purchases using our links.
Learn more.
article
figure
Do you like the name Windows 11?
figure end
the future is now

Do you like the name Windows 11?

We're on the cusp of seeing the biggest Windows news drop in a long time. Could it be the unveiling of Windows 11, and if it is, is that an OS name that excites you?
article end
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-will-unveil-next-generation-windows-june-24

David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info


moderated jJeff Lukacsena: question on Jaws scripting

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone knew a place to find out how to learn how to do scripting for Jaws?

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: CD Cateloging Software

 

Have you tried doing an uninstall and reinstall of OrangeCD?  If not, I'd suggest trying that.

It also still appears to be in development with the latest version having been released in July 2020, Version 6.5.8.27126
Is that the version you've got running on your machine?

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: New Win OS?

Andrew Summers
 

What we need is, someone from Microsoft to tell us.
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: 08 June 2021 00:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

Albert:

I hear what you are saying about new technology, and the need to keep up with it.

But, weren't we promised by Microsoft at one point that there would be no new operating system beyond Windows 10, with all future changes being implemented within that particular operating system?

Maybe I'm loosing my mind, but I swear I read that info from several credible sources.

If this new operating system is really going to happen, I truly wonder how many people will go for it, especially since we all (or many of us) just upgraded to Windows 10 fairly recently.

Ok, I'll stop my rant now.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

Good evening Randy,

Thanks for sharing this news and for posting it too the list. My question here is, if we all have windows 10 on our computers, will this new windows operating system enable us too get it as an upgrade, or will we be forced too purchase it through Microsoft. Also, I'm wondering if Jaws or Vespero is aware of this change to windows, and its new operating system. Looks like for us, it's going to be catch up time once again, and another learning curve that we'll have too deal with. But I suppose, that is what technology is all about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Win OS?Al,
System
Well, Here we go again. Not looking forward to another complete OS overhaul...

[tech-vi Announce List] Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Central - News, Forums, Reviews, Help for Windows 10 and all things Microsoft. - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:36 PM

Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Event
Source: Microsoft

What you need to know
list of 3 items
• Microsoft is holding a Windows event on June 24.
• It plans to unveil the "next generation of Windows."
• The event is online and will be publicly broadcast live starting at 11 AM ET.
list end

Microsoft
has announced
an event taking place on June 24 where it will unveil the next generation of Windows. The event will be online, and begin at 11AM Eastern Time. The company is expected to unveil a new user interface and feature set for Windows, and possibly position this new version of Windows as "Windows 11."

The company has been working on a complete rejuvenation of the Windows Desktop user interface (codenamed Sun Valley) for some time, and this event will be where the company finally shows off what it's been building. Windows 10 has been the latest version of Windows for six years, and has remained much the same.

Sun Valley is expected to deliver a new Start menu and Taskbar layout, icons, sounds, app designs, and fluid animations. Microsoft may take this user experience rejuvenation effort as a chance to ship a "new" version of Windows, and we think it could possibly fall under the Windows 11
moniker. We'll have to wait and see what Microsoft actually does at the event on June 24.

block quote
What do you think it'll be called?

— Zac Bowden (@zacbowden)
June 2, 2021
block quote end

Microsoft recently canceled plans to ship a new version of Windows called Windows 10X, which was built on a modern version of the OS called Windows Core OS.
Windows 10X was first going to ship on dual-screen PCs like the Surface Neo before being repositioned as a platform that would compete against Chromebooks in the low-end market.

The company has announced that it will be bringing the best of Windows 10X to the full version of Windows now that 10X isn't coming. Perhaps we'll see the result of that at this event on June 24.

What are you hoping to see at the event? Let us know in the comments.

We may earn a commission for purchases using our links.
Learn more.
article
figure
Do you like the name Windows 11?
figure end
the future is now

Do you like the name Windows 11?

We're on the cusp of seeing the biggest Windows news drop in a long time. Could it be the unveiling of Windows 11, and if it is, is that an OS name that excites you?
article end
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-will-unveil-next-generation-windows-june-24

David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info


moderated Re: Edge Issue

Adrian Spratt
 

Mike,

 

Yes, repainting makes you want to take a brush to the PC, refreshing to pour a bucket of cold water on it. I’ve been tempted many times.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 11:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Issue

 

Hi Adrian,

 

Without knowing what someone has their settings set at one can only suggest something to try to see if it'll help their situation.  Clarence stated that he's constantly having to refresh a webpage, so if that's the case maybe setting the page refresh setting to automatic will help, but he'll have to play around with settings to see what works best for him.

 

I totally understand what you're saying and I totally agree, because like you i use the, Jaws key + escape, keystroke to repaint on a regular basis with some websites, but with others it's not necessary.  What gets irritating on websites like Amazon is the lag time between a keystroke press and the website recognizing the action.

 

Also what's irritating is the computerlingo, repainting vs. refreshing, why can't theyall just get along?  LOL  LOL 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 7:37 PM

Subject: Re: Edge Issue

 

Mike and Clarence,

 

Terminology confuses me here. There’s the Windows F5 key for reloading a page and the JAWS insert-escape to “repaint” a page, as Vispero calls it. If I’m not mistaken, “refresh” in the quick JAWS settings determines how often, if at all, a page will refresh. I have this setting at never, or the equivalent, to avoid situations where webpages keep being updated.

 

Clarence, if you’re encountering the situation I do all the time, I can say only that I routinely press JAWS key-escape when I open a new webpage. After that, it stays the way I want.

 

But I could be wrong. Maybe try Mike’s suggestion and see if it does the job. If not, you might use that setting to prevent pages from refreshing and combine it with Vispero’s repaint. An extra step is annoying, but after a while it becomes an unthinking habit.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Issue

 

Hi Clarence,

 

While in Edge press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings and do a search for, page refresh, and you should get 2 results.  Press the spacebar to toggle through the settings and stop on the setting you want.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

 

And, while in Edge press, Insert + 6, on the number row and do a search for, page refresh, use the spacebar to toggle through your options, then apply and your okay you're way out to save / close.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Edge Issue

 

I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages when in JAWS. Is there a fix for this. Is there a setting that has to be fixed in JAWS or Edge?I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages in Edge. Has anybody noticed this? If so, is there a JAWS fix for this?


moderated Re: Edge Issue

Mike B.
 


Hi Adrian,
 
Without knowing what someone has their settings set at one can only suggest something to try to see if it'll help their situation.  Clarence stated that he's constantly having to refresh a webpage, so if that's the case maybe setting the page refresh setting to automatic will help, but he'll have to play around with settings to see what works best for him.
 
I totally understand what you're saying and I totally agree, because like you i use the, Jaws key + escape, keystroke to repaint on a regular basis with some websites, but with others it's not necessary.  What gets irritating on websites like Amazon is the lag time between a keystroke press and the website recognizing the action.
 
Also what's irritating is the computerlingo, repainting vs. refreshing, why can't theyall just get along?  LOL  LOL 
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Edge Issue

Mike and Clarence,

 

Terminology confuses me here. There’s the Windows F5 key for reloading a page and the JAWS insert-escape to “repaint” a page, as Vispero calls it. If I’m not mistaken, “refresh” in the quick JAWS settings determines how often, if at all, a page will refresh. I have this setting at never, or the equivalent, to avoid situations where webpages keep being updated.

 

Clarence, if you’re encountering the situation I do all the time, I can say only that I routinely press JAWS key-escape when I open a new webpage. After that, it stays the way I want.

 

But I could be wrong. Maybe try Mike’s suggestion and see if it does the job. If not, you might use that setting to prevent pages from refreshing and combine it with Vispero’s repaint. An extra step is annoying, but after a while it becomes an unthinking habit.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Issue

 

Hi Clarence,

 

While in Edge press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings and do a search for, page refresh, and you should get 2 results.  Press the spacebar to toggle through the settings and stop on the setting you want.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

 

And, while in Edge press, Insert + 6, on the number row and do a search for, page refresh, use the spacebar to toggle through your options, then apply and your okay you're way out to save / close.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Edge Issue

 

I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages when in JAWS. Is there a fix for this. Is there a setting that has to be fixed in JAWS or Edge?I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages in Edge. Has anybody noticed this? If so, is there a JAWS fix for this?


moderated Re: New Win OS?

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

hi I have no idea at this point what's gonna happen with windows 10. It may be nothing or it may be something it's too early to say. And I am definitely sure that Espero knows all about it they work fairly closely with Microsoft. but from past experience when they do a major revamp of the interface we always have issues.


Randy Barnett

On Jun 7, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@charter.net> wrote:

Good evening Randy,

Thanks for sharing this news and for posting it too the list. My question here is, if we all have windows 10 on our computers, will this new windows operating system enable us too get it as an upgrade, or will we be forced too purchase it through Microsoft. Also, I'm wondering if Jaws or Vespero is aware of this change to windows, and its new operating system. Looks like for us, it's going to be catch up time once again, and another learning curve that we'll have too deal with. But I suppose, that is what technology is all about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Win OS?Al,
System
Well, Here we go again. Not looking forward to another complete OS overhaul...

[tech-vi Announce List] Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Central - News, Forums, Reviews, Help for Windows 10 and all things Microsoft. - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:36 PM

Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Event
Source: Microsoft

What you need to know
list of 3 items
• Microsoft is holding a Windows event on June 24.
• It plans to unveil the "next generation of Windows."
• The event is online and will be publicly broadcast live starting at 11 AM ET.
list end

Microsoft
has announced
an event taking place on June 24 where it will unveil the next generation of Windows. The event will be online, and begin at 11AM Eastern Time. The company is expected to unveil a new user interface and feature set for Windows, and possibly position this new version of Windows as "Windows 11."

The company has been working on a complete rejuvenation of the Windows Desktop user interface (codenamed Sun Valley) for some time, and this event will be where the company finally shows off what it's been building. Windows 10 has been the latest version of Windows for six years, and has remained much the same.

Sun Valley is expected to deliver a new Start menu and Taskbar layout, icons, sounds, app designs, and fluid animations. Microsoft may take this user experience rejuvenation effort as a chance to ship a "new" version of Windows, and we think it could possibly fall under the Windows 11
moniker. We'll have to wait and see what Microsoft actually does at the event on June 24.

block quote
What do you think it'll be called?

— Zac Bowden (@zacbowden)
June 2, 2021
block quote end

Microsoft recently canceled plans to ship a new version of Windows called Windows 10X, which was built on a modern version of the OS called Windows Core OS.
Windows 10X was first going to ship on dual-screen PCs like the Surface Neo before being repositioned as a platform that would compete against Chromebooks in the low-end market.

The company has announced that it will be bringing the best of Windows 10X to the full version of Windows now that 10X isn't coming. Perhaps we'll see the result of that at this event on June 24.

What are you hoping to see at the event? Let us know in the comments.

We may earn a commission for purchases using our links.
Learn more.
article
figure
Do you like the name Windows 11?
figure end
the future is now

Do you like the name Windows 11?

We're on the cusp of seeing the biggest Windows news drop in a long time. Could it be the unveiling of Windows 11, and if it is, is that an OS name that excites you?
article end
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-will-unveil-next-generation-windows-june-24

David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info


moderated Re: Edge Issue

Adrian Spratt
 

Mike and Clarence,

 

Terminology confuses me here. There’s the Windows F5 key for reloading a page and the JAWS insert-escape to “repaint” a page, as Vispero calls it. If I’m not mistaken, “refresh” in the quick JAWS settings determines how often, if at all, a page will refresh. I have this setting at never, or the equivalent, to avoid situations where webpages keep being updated.

 

Clarence, if you’re encountering the situation I do all the time, I can say only that I routinely press JAWS key-escape when I open a new webpage. After that, it stays the way I want.

 

But I could be wrong. Maybe try Mike’s suggestion and see if it does the job. If not, you might use that setting to prevent pages from refreshing and combine it with Vispero’s repaint. An extra step is annoying, but after a while it becomes an unthinking habit.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Issue

 

Hi Clarence,

 

While in Edge press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings and do a search for, page refresh, and you should get 2 results.  Press the spacebar to toggle through the settings and stop on the setting you want.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

 

And, while in Edge press, Insert + 6, on the number row and do a search for, page refresh, use the spacebar to toggle through your options, then apply and your okay you're way out to save / close.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Edge Issue

 

I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages when in JAWS. Is there a fix for this. Is there a setting that has to be fixed in JAWS or Edge?I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages in Edge. Has anybody noticed this? If so, is there a JAWS fix for this?


moderated Re: Edge Issue

Mike B.
 


Hi Clarence,
 
While in Edge press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings and do a search for, page refresh, and you should get 2 results.  Press the spacebar to toggle through the settings and stop on the setting you want.  Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.
 
And, while in Edge press, Insert + 6, on the number row and do a search for, page refresh, use the spacebar to toggle through your options, then apply and your okay you're way out to save / close.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 5:21 PM
Subject: Edge Issue

I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages when in JAWS. Is there a fix for this. Is there a setting that has to be fixed in JAWS or Edge?I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages in Edge. Has anybody noticed this? If so, is there a JAWS fix for this?


moderated Edge Issue

clarence carter
 

I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages when in JAWS. Is there a fix for this. Is there a setting that has to be fixed in JAWS or Edge?I have noticed that I often have to refresh pages in Edge. Has anybody noticed this? If so, is there a JAWS fix for this?


moderated Re: New Win OS?

 

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 08:00 PM, David Moore wrote:
I have build 21390.1! Is that what you are talking about?
-
Kinda, sorta, but not exactly.  Since 21H2 is nowhere near to "finished" what you have isn't close to the final version that will ship as 21H2, but it's the currently available preview for insiders.

See:  https://wccftech.com/new-build-alert-for-windows-10-21h2-insiders-in-the-dev-channel/ 

I don't do the Insider thing anymore, so I don't generally keep up with the Dev builds/Insider builds at all.  But even the article that's spawned a thousand hand-wrings made direct reference to this:  https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-sun-valley-ui-october-2021-update 

Sun Valley has been known to be what will become 21H2 for quite a while now.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated CD Cateloging Software

clarence carter
 

I have been using a program to catalog my CD collection for the past few year. Recently, it has been giving me trouble. I am currently using OrangeCD - Automatic database software to catalog CD and MP3 collections
 as my cateloging software.

I am looking for a new program that will do this. 

It has served me well until the latest Windows 10 updates have taken affect. 

If anybody has a solution or suggestion for this issue, I would appreciate any help.
Thanks!


moderated Re: New Win OS?

 

Hi,

I don’t think so, as a cumulative update for that build was just released, with Microsoft pausing major build releases for dev channel Windows Insiders for a few weeks. I’m keeping a very close eye on this development – expect initial confusion for a while.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

 

I have build 21390.1! Is that what you are talking about?

 

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021, 7:53 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

I don't know why it's so difficult for folks to understand this is the next evolution under Windows 10, period, end of sentence.

Your machine will be updated to it via a feature update just like has been happening since 2015.  I wouldn't care if they called it Windows 25, I don't have to do anything to get it and it's just the next feature update.

And it was said, repeatedly, by Microsoft that Windows 10 would be "the final Windows," and it pretty much has been.  I expect that they're eventually going to drop the "10" from the designation, and that will likely come during some feature update in the unspecified future.

Windows As A Service was a tectonic shift in how Windows updates were to be handled going forward.  Until and unless that delivery paradigm changes, things will stay pretty much as they are in terms of twice yearly feature updates, one of which is often trivial.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: New Win OS?

David Moore
 

I have build 21390.1! Is that what you are talking about?


On Mon, Jun 7, 2021, 7:53 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
I don't know why it's so difficult for folks to understand this is the next evolution under Windows 10, period, end of sentence.

Your machine will be updated to it via a feature update just like has been happening since 2015.  I wouldn't care if they called it Windows 25, I don't have to do anything to get it and it's just the next feature update.

And it was said, repeatedly, by Microsoft that Windows 10 would be "the final Windows," and it pretty much has been.  I expect that they're eventually going to drop the "10" from the designation, and that will likely come during some feature update in the unspecified future.

Windows As A Service was a tectonic shift in how Windows updates were to be handled going forward.  Until and unless that delivery paradigm changes, things will stay pretty much as they are in terms of twice yearly feature updates, one of which is often trivial.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: New Win OS?

 

I don't know why it's so difficult for folks to understand this is the next evolution under Windows 10, period, end of sentence.

Your machine will be updated to it via a feature update just like has been happening since 2015.  I wouldn't care if they called it Windows 25, I don't have to do anything to get it and it's just the next feature update.

And it was said, repeatedly, by Microsoft that Windows 10 would be "the final Windows," and it pretty much has been.  I expect that they're eventually going to drop the "10" from the designation, and that will likely come during some feature update in the unspecified future.

Windows As A Service was a tectonic shift in how Windows updates were to be handled going forward.  Until and unless that delivery paradigm changes, things will stay pretty much as they are in terms of twice yearly feature updates, one of which is often trivial.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: New Win OS?

Tom Behler
 

Albert:

I hear what you are saying about new technology, and the need to keep up with it.

But, weren't we promised by Microsoft at one point that there would be no new operating system beyond Windows 10, with all future changes being implemented within that particular operating system?

Maybe I'm loosing my mind, but I swear I read that info from several credible sources.

If this new operating system is really going to happen, I truly wonder how many people will go for it, especially since we all (or many of us) just upgraded to Windows 10 fairly recently.

Ok, I'll stop my rant now.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

Good evening Randy,

Thanks for sharing this news and for posting it too the list. My question here is, if we all have windows 10 on our computers, will this new windows operating system enable us too get it as an upgrade, or will we be forced too purchase it through Microsoft. Also, I'm wondering if Jaws or Vespero is aware of this change to windows, and its new operating system. Looks like for us, it's going to be catch up time once again, and another learning curve that we'll have too deal with. But I suppose, that is what technology is all about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Win OS?Al,
System
Well, Here we go again. Not looking forward to another complete OS overhaul...

[tech-vi Announce List] Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Central - News, Forums, Reviews, Help for Windows 10 and all things Microsoft. - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:36 PM

Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Event
Source: Microsoft

What you need to know
list of 3 items
• Microsoft is holding a Windows event on June 24.
• It plans to unveil the "next generation of Windows."
• The event is online and will be publicly broadcast live starting at 11 AM ET.
list end

Microsoft
has announced
an event taking place on June 24 where it will unveil the next generation of Windows. The event will be online, and begin at 11AM Eastern Time. The company is expected to unveil a new user interface and feature set for Windows, and possibly position this new version of Windows as "Windows 11."

The company has been working on a complete rejuvenation of the Windows Desktop user interface (codenamed Sun Valley) for some time, and this event will be where the company finally shows off what it's been building. Windows 10 has been the latest version of Windows for six years, and has remained much the same.

Sun Valley is expected to deliver a new Start menu and Taskbar layout, icons, sounds, app designs, and fluid animations. Microsoft may take this user experience rejuvenation effort as a chance to ship a "new" version of Windows, and we think it could possibly fall under the Windows 11
moniker. We'll have to wait and see what Microsoft actually does at the event on June 24.

block quote
What do you think it'll be called?

— Zac Bowden (@zacbowden)
June 2, 2021
block quote end

Microsoft recently canceled plans to ship a new version of Windows called Windows 10X, which was built on a modern version of the OS called Windows Core OS.
Windows 10X was first going to ship on dual-screen PCs like the Surface Neo before being repositioned as a platform that would compete against Chromebooks in the low-end market.

The company has announced that it will be bringing the best of Windows 10X to the full version of Windows now that 10X isn't coming. Perhaps we'll see the result of that at this event on June 24.

What are you hoping to see at the event? Let us know in the comments.

We may earn a commission for purchases using our links.
Learn more.
article
figure
Do you like the name Windows 11?
figure end
the future is now

Do you like the name Windows 11?

We're on the cusp of seeing the biggest Windows news drop in a long time. Could it be the unveiling of Windows 11, and if it is, is that an OS name that excites you?
article end
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-will-unveil-next-generation-windows-june-24

David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
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moderated Re: New Win OS?

JM Casey
 

That’s what I thought even from reading that post.

Some person “thinks it’ll be Windows 11”

Yeah, right.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: June 7, 2021 06:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

 

Windows code named "Sun Valley" has been in the pipeline for ages and has been in the hands of Windows Insiders for early testing.

It is not, contrary to the hype (some of it being ginned up by Microsoft), a fundamentally new Windows.  Much ado about not much.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: New Win OS?

 

Windows code named "Sun Valley" has been in the pipeline for ages and has been in the hands of Windows Insiders for early testing.

It is not, contrary to the hype (some of it being ginned up by Microsoft), a fundamentally new Windows.  Much ado about not much.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: New Win OS?

JM Casey
 

Obviously much remains to be seen, but I don’t' think anybody will be forced to do anything.
If the new look (and that's what it sounds like these things mostly are) comes to Windows 10 at all, it'll be quite a ways off -- and we'll likely be able to turn features on or off as we choose.
Definitely no need to be alarmed, but it's good to share this sort of thing on the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: June 7, 2021 06:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Win OS?

Good evening Randy,

Thanks for sharing this news and for posting it too the list. My question here is, if we all have windows 10 on our computers, will this new windows operating system enable us too get it as an upgrade, or will we be forced too purchase it through Microsoft. Also, I'm wondering if Jaws or Vespero is aware of this change to windows, and its new operating system. Looks like for us, it's going to be catch up time once again, and another learning curve that we'll have too deal with. But I suppose, that is what technology is all about.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Win OS?Al,
System
Well, Here we go again. Not looking forward to another complete OS overhaul...

[tech-vi Announce List] Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Central - News, Forums, Reviews, Help for Windows 10 and all things Microsoft. - Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:36 PM

Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Windows Event
Source: Microsoft

What you need to know
list of 3 items
• Microsoft is holding a Windows event on June 24.
• It plans to unveil the "next generation of Windows."
• The event is online and will be publicly broadcast live starting at 11 AM ET.
list end

Microsoft
has announced
an event taking place on June 24 where it will unveil the next generation of Windows. The event will be online, and begin at 11AM Eastern Time. The company is expected to unveil a new user interface and feature set for Windows, and possibly position this new version of Windows as "Windows 11."

The company has been working on a complete rejuvenation of the Windows Desktop user interface (codenamed Sun Valley) for some time, and this event will be where the company finally shows off what it's been building. Windows 10 has been the latest version of Windows for six years, and has remained much the same.

Sun Valley is expected to deliver a new Start menu and Taskbar layout, icons, sounds, app designs, and fluid animations. Microsoft may take this user experience rejuvenation effort as a chance to ship a "new" version of Windows, and we think it could possibly fall under the Windows 11
moniker. We'll have to wait and see what Microsoft actually does at the event on June 24.

block quote
What do you think it'll be called?

— Zac Bowden (@zacbowden)
June 2, 2021
block quote end

Microsoft recently canceled plans to ship a new version of Windows called Windows 10X, which was built on a modern version of the OS called Windows Core OS.
Windows 10X was first going to ship on dual-screen PCs like the Surface Neo before being repositioned as a platform that would compete against Chromebooks in the low-end market.

The company has announced that it will be bringing the best of Windows 10X to the full version of Windows now that 10X isn't coming. Perhaps we'll see the result of that at this event on June 24.

What are you hoping to see at the event? Let us know in the comments.

We may earn a commission for purchases using our links.
Learn more.
article
figure
Do you like the name Windows 11?
figure end
the future is now

Do you like the name Windows 11?

We're on the cusp of seeing the biggest Windows news drop in a long time. Could it be the unveiling of Windows 11, and if it is, is that an OS name that excites you?
article end
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-will-unveil-next-generation-windows-june-24

David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info

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