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moderated Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

Adrian Spratt
 

How frustrating for you. In my case, using Outlook 2016, the new feature works as advertised.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

Hi folks:

 

Hey just throwing this out there to see if anyone else is experiencing the same issue as I am.

 

The new feature that was put in was the ability to quickly jump through an email chain message with the navigational key n and it reads the person it from and skips a lot of the header address info.

 

Nice feature.  However, we use Outlook in my company and since I upgraded to the May release I have a problem.

 

  1. If I issue the key command to merely reply to the message it switches over and I am in the edit mode and can start typing in my answer.

Problem!!!!!

If I instead do a reply to all then it switches over however, before I can start typing in my answer I have to turn quick keys off. 

 

This did not happen prior to the upgrade to the May release.  We are running Windows 10 19.09 rev patched up and the latest version of outlook

Microsoft® Outlook® for Microsoft 365 MSO (16.0.13127.21622)

 

I’ve called Vispero support and they claim they can not  re do my issues.

 

I’ve also written support@vispero and they have written back and asked me to ensure that VBA add in is being loaded.  As well as trying to run outlook in safe mode.  Well when I run in safe mode life is still the same.  The “reply to all” still requires me to turn quick nav keys off, but if I do just “reply to” then I do not have to turn quick keys off.

 

Anyways, as a developer this makes absolutely no sense to me.  The only thing that has changed is the Jaws upgrade, so the issue has to be in the Jaws code.  My outlook did not change between the evening before I did the upgrade and the features worked properly and the next morning when I did the upgrade.

 

So can you folks check out this new feature of reading through an email chain and then replying to it with reply to all and report back as to what you experience.

 

This is for users of Outlook mostly.

 

 

Thanks and have a good day everyone.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

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Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
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Hi,

I haven’t tried it yet. I will let you know what I find.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

The email thread keyboard commands don’t work for me. I’m assuming it’s because I’ve customised all my email groups into threads via View Settings rather than the standard thread button. Is it working for othrs?

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 19 May 2021 19:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

Seems like a fairly significant update.

Hopefully the email thread thing gets more attention.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:48 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

Below is the direct download link for the May J2021 build, 2105.53, update + what's new in this release.

 

32 & 64 Bit Download Link:

 

 

What's New:

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2105.53 (May 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2021 release and the May 2021 update.

 

Easier Navigation Through Email Threads in Outlook

 

It is quite common, particularly in a work or school environment, for email messages to include several people, resulting in lengthy message threads as
participants reply and add to the conversation. When opening an email that contains a thread of messages, including replies or forwards, it can be time
consuming to read through the thread with JAWS or Fusion using the ARROW keys to locate particular responses as you need to move through all of the header
information for each message.

 

To make this easier, you can now use the N or SHIFT+N Navigation Quick Keys to quickly move to and place focus at the beginning of the next or previous
message in an open email thread, skipping over all of the header information. As you navigate with these commands, JAWS and Fusion reads who the message
is from, the date it was sent, and the first line. If you determine this is not the message in the thread you were looking for, continue using N or SHIFT+N
until you reach the message you want. While reading a particular message in the thread, pressing ALT+1 or ALT+2 now announces the sender or date  of the
message at your current location. To review sender and date info for the entire email, press CTRL+HOME to move back to the top before pressing ALT+1 or
ALT+2.

 

For users of the Focus braille display, you can set a NAV rocker to move through messages in an open email thread. While focused in an email, press the
NAV Mode button above the NAV rocker you want to set to cycle through the available navigation modes until "Message" is selected. If you are using an older
Focus display that includes Wiz Wheels, press down on the wheel to select the mode. If focus moves away from the message, the navigation mode defaults
back to Line.

 

Note: Currently, this feature is only available while reading an email and not when editing a message. Additionally, while currently limited to messages
containing replies and forwards from Outlook, we will continue to improve this feature over time to support emails from other sources like Gmail and iOS.

 

Voice Assistant Improvements

 

In the initial 2021 release, we introduced Voice Assistant, a new way to interact with JAWS in Windows 10. Voice Assistant offers a convenient option for
quickly performing various JAWS commands using natural speech instead of memorizing specific keystrokes. Since its introduction, we have received numerous
requests from customers wanting to be able to access more JAWS features by voice in order to increase productivity.

 

Some JAWS features you can now access by using voice commands include:

 

list of 16 items
• Selecting Text, especially blocks of text, has never been easier. Just locate the spot where you wish to begin selecting and say "Hey Sharky, Start Selection."
Then navigate to the location where selection should end and say "Hey Sharky, Finish Selection." You did it! At that point, all text between the two locations
will be highlighted. You can confirm using the SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW Command to verify you got it all. This works on Web Pages, in Documents, and even
in Emails.
• Working with the JAWS speech history without remembering any keystrokes is now even easier. Try any of the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Show Speech History"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Speech History to Clipboard"
• "Hey Sharky, Clear Speech History"
list end nesting level 1
• Working with Technical Support just got easier. Have you ever been asked to get the version information for your software or operating system? Try this
out:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Version Info"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Version Info to Clipboard"
list end nesting level 1
• You can now ask JAWS to help virtualize a control or window, or even copy them directly to the Clipboard. For example, go to the JAWS About dialog box,
and try the following:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Window"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Window"
• "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Control"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Control"
list end nesting level 1
• When navigating Word documents and Outlook messages, you can use Voice Assistant to work with various elements like headings, tables, and graphics. Try
the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, List Headings"
• "Hey Sharky, Next Table"
• "Hey Sharky, Next Graphic"
list end nesting level 1
• When editing a Word document or Outlook message, you can use Voice Assistant to move to Spelling or Grammatical errors. For Example, try:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Next Spelling Error"
• "Hey Sharky, Next Grammatical Error"
list end nesting level 1
• While reading a message in Outlook containing several replies or forwards, you can now say "Hey Sharky, Next Message" or "Previous Message." You will
skip the headings and get right to the various replies within that email.
• When focused on math content in Word that you wish to navigate, you can now say "Hey Sharky, Math Viewer." This opens the JAWS Math Viewer where you
can explore the current equation.
• To edit a math equation using the new Braille Math Editor, move to the equation and say "Hey Sharky, Math Editor."
• Toggle the Braille or Text Viewers on or off by saying "Hey Sharky, Braille Viewer" or "Text Viewer."
• Start or stop a JAWS Tandem session by saying "Hey Sharky, Tandem."
• Open the Select a Voice Profile dialog box by saying "Hey Sharky, Voice Profile."
• To access something in the System Tray, try saying "Hey Sharky, System Tray."
• Speak the most recent Windows notification by saying "Hey Sharky, Notification."
• If you have a laptop and want to know the charge level of its battery, just say "Hey Sharky, Battery."
• On a web page, open the Custom Label dialog box for labeling an element by saying "Hey Sharky, Custom Label."
list end

 

Braille Math Editor

 

JAWS and Fusion currently supports reading Math equations on web pages that are displayed using MathML, or math equations in Microsoft Word documents inserted
using the native Word math format. You can navigate the individual elements of an equation using the Math Viewer, accessed by pressing ENTER from a web
page or INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS from a Word document when focused on the equation. If JAWS braille translation is set to Unified English Braille
or United States English Grade 1 or Grade 2 output, math expressions are also shown on a braille display using Nemeth Braille format.

 

The new Braille Math Editor in JAWS now enables braille users in Windows 10 to input their own equations, and in Office 365, edit existing equations in
Word documents. To open the Math Editor, press the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+EQUALS (plus sign). Focus braille display users can
also press DOTS 3-4-6-7 CHORD.

 

When the Math Editor opens, focus is placed into an edit field where you can immediately begin typing the equation in Nemeth braille from your braille
display's keyboard. As you type, a preview pane below the edit field visually displays the equation so a sighted teacher or parent can review it. Once
you are finished inputting the math equation, press ENTER or choose the Accept button to close the Math Editor. If you are in Word, the equation you entered
is automatically inserted into the document at your current location. The equation is also copied to the Clipboard so you can paste it in other applications.

 

Opening the Math Editor while focused on a math equation in a Word document displays the existing equation in Nemeth Braille, allowing you to edit or replace
it. After making any changes and pressing ENTER to close the editor, the current equation in the document is replaced by the new or modified equation.

 

Note: After inserting or modifying an equation in Word from the Math Editor, the blinking cursor (dots 7 and 8) on the braille display always remains at
the beginning of the math content, even as you move by character with the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. If you need to insert another line of math content,
first press the END key to move to the end of the current math content and then press ENTER.

 

While the Math Editor is opened, you have the following additional options:

 

list of 3 items
• Press CTRL+N to start a new equation.
• Press CTRL+P to preview the current equation in the Math Viewer. When finished, press ESC to return to the Math Editor.
• Press ALT+E to open the edit menu where you can copy your Nemeth Braille to the Clipboard using a specific format. MathML is the default format when
copying, however, depending on the application where you intend to paste the equation, you can also choose to copy your Nemeth Braille to LaTeX or Braille
ASCII. After choosing a format to copy to, paste the equation into the specific application before pressing ENTER or selecting Accept to close the Math
Editor as this always copies as MathML and will erase the current clipboard contents.
list end

 

To learn more about Nemeth Braille, check out this
Nemeth Tutorial
 which teaches this braille code beginning with the very basics up through advanced mathematics.

 

Other Changes
list of 12 items
• Resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the download status of files in Edge Chromium.
• Addressed an issue where the text of a link in a GMail message was not being read if it spanned multiple lines.
• When selecting a link or button on a web page that opens a modal dialog such as a calendar, resolved an issue where JAWS was reading the entire contents
of the dialog all at once as soon as it gained focus.
• JAWS now indicates when you move in and out of text in Google Docs that is marked as a suggestion.
• Expanded the description in Commands Search for setting a temporary PlaceMarker (CTRL+WINDOWS+K) to describe how this keystroke is used as part of selecting
text.
• Added the Copy Speech History to Clipboard keystroke (INSERT+SPACEBAR, CTRL+H) to Commands Search.
• Updated the description in Commands Search for the Read Address Bar keystroke (INSERT+A) so it can be found by searching for either "URL" or "address."
• If the Navigation Quick Key Manager is launched from an Outlook message, the Navigation Quick Key N for moving through messages in a thread, is now listed
so you can reassign it if necessary. The Navigation Quick Key Manager is located in the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2).
• Resolved an issue where Navigation Quick Keys in Outlook messages would sometimes unexpectedly stop working until you moved focus away then back to the
message.
• When selecting text in Outlook messages for copying and pasting, addressed an issue where selection was not always working as expected, causing the wrong
text to be selected. This occurred most often in messages containing lists.
• Updated the INSERT+H help for Excel to list all of the latest JAWS hot keys.
• Added a new dictionary rule for "FYI" so JAWS no longer says the more verbose "for your information" when encountering this acronym.
list end

 

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moderated Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

Shan Noyes
 

Hi folks:

 

Hey just throwing this out there to see if anyone else is experiencing the same issue as I am.

 

The new feature that was put in was the ability to quickly jump through an email chain message with the navigational key n and it reads the person it from and skips a lot of the header address info.

 

Nice feature.  However, we use Outlook in my company and since I upgraded to the May release I have a problem.

 

  1. If I issue the key command to merely reply to the message it switches over and I am in the edit mode and can start typing in my answer.

Problem!!!!!

If I instead do a reply to all then it switches over however, before I can start typing in my answer I have to turn quick keys off. 

 

This did not happen prior to the upgrade to the May release.  We are running Windows 10 19.09 rev patched up and the latest version of outlook

Microsoft® Outlook® for Microsoft 365 MSO (16.0.13127.21622)

 

I’ve called Vispero support and they claim they can not  re do my issues.

 

I’ve also written support@vispero and they have written back and asked me to ensure that VBA add in is being loaded.  As well as trying to run outlook in safe mode.  Well when I run in safe mode life is still the same.  The “reply to all” still requires me to turn quick nav keys off, but if I do just “reply to” then I do not have to turn quick keys off.

 

Anyways, as a developer this makes absolutely no sense to me.  The only thing that has changed is the Jaws upgrade, so the issue has to be in the Jaws code.  My outlook did not change between the evening before I did the upgrade and the features worked properly and the next morning when I did the upgrade.

 

So can you folks check out this new feature of reading through an email chain and then replying to it with reply to all and report back as to what you experience.

 

This is for users of Outlook mostly.

 

 

Thanks and have a good day everyone.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Hi,

I haven’t tried it yet. I will let you know what I find.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

The email thread keyboard commands don’t work for me. I’m assuming it’s because I’ve customised all my email groups into threads via View Settings rather than the standard thread button. Is it working for othrs?

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 19 May 2021 19:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

Seems like a fairly significant update.

Hopefully the email thread thing gets more attention.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:48 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: May Update for, JAWS2021, Build 2105.53, Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

Below is the direct download link for the May J2021 build, 2105.53, update + what's new in this release.

 

32 & 64 Bit Download Link:

 

 

What's New:

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2105.53 (May 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2021 release and the May 2021 update.

 

Easier Navigation Through Email Threads in Outlook

 

It is quite common, particularly in a work or school environment, for email messages to include several people, resulting in lengthy message threads as
participants reply and add to the conversation. When opening an email that contains a thread of messages, including replies or forwards, it can be time
consuming to read through the thread with JAWS or Fusion using the ARROW keys to locate particular responses as you need to move through all of the header
information for each message.

 

To make this easier, you can now use the N or SHIFT+N Navigation Quick Keys to quickly move to and place focus at the beginning of the next or previous
message in an open email thread, skipping over all of the header information. As you navigate with these commands, JAWS and Fusion reads who the message
is from, the date it was sent, and the first line. If you determine this is not the message in the thread you were looking for, continue using N or SHIFT+N
until you reach the message you want. While reading a particular message in the thread, pressing ALT+1 or ALT+2 now announces the sender or date  of the
message at your current location. To review sender and date info for the entire email, press CTRL+HOME to move back to the top before pressing ALT+1 or
ALT+2.

 

For users of the Focus braille display, you can set a NAV rocker to move through messages in an open email thread. While focused in an email, press the
NAV Mode button above the NAV rocker you want to set to cycle through the available navigation modes until "Message" is selected. If you are using an older
Focus display that includes Wiz Wheels, press down on the wheel to select the mode. If focus moves away from the message, the navigation mode defaults
back to Line.

 

Note: Currently, this feature is only available while reading an email and not when editing a message. Additionally, while currently limited to messages
containing replies and forwards from Outlook, we will continue to improve this feature over time to support emails from other sources like Gmail and iOS.

 

Voice Assistant Improvements

 

In the initial 2021 release, we introduced Voice Assistant, a new way to interact with JAWS in Windows 10. Voice Assistant offers a convenient option for
quickly performing various JAWS commands using natural speech instead of memorizing specific keystrokes. Since its introduction, we have received numerous
requests from customers wanting to be able to access more JAWS features by voice in order to increase productivity.

 

Some JAWS features you can now access by using voice commands include:

 

list of 16 items
• Selecting Text, especially blocks of text, has never been easier. Just locate the spot where you wish to begin selecting and say "Hey Sharky, Start Selection."
Then navigate to the location where selection should end and say "Hey Sharky, Finish Selection." You did it! At that point, all text between the two locations
will be highlighted. You can confirm using the SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW Command to verify you got it all. This works on Web Pages, in Documents, and even
in Emails.
• Working with the JAWS speech history without remembering any keystrokes is now even easier. Try any of the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Show Speech History"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Speech History to Clipboard"
• "Hey Sharky, Clear Speech History"
list end nesting level 1
• Working with Technical Support just got easier. Have you ever been asked to get the version information for your software or operating system? Try this
out:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Version Info"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Version Info to Clipboard"
list end nesting level 1
• You can now ask JAWS to help virtualize a control or window, or even copy them directly to the Clipboard. For example, go to the JAWS About dialog box,
and try the following:
list of 4 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Window"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Window"
• "Hey Sharky, Virtualize Control"
• "Hey Sharky, Copy Control"
list end nesting level 1
• When navigating Word documents and Outlook messages, you can use Voice Assistant to work with various elements like headings, tables, and graphics. Try
the following:
list of 3 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, List Headings"
• "Hey Sharky, Next Table"
• "Hey Sharky, Next Graphic"
list end nesting level 1
• When editing a Word document or Outlook message, you can use Voice Assistant to move to Spelling or Grammatical errors. For Example, try:
list of 2 items nesting level 1
• "Hey Sharky, Next Spelling Error"
• "Hey Sharky, Next Grammatical Error"
list end nesting level 1
• While reading a message in Outlook containing several replies or forwards, you can now say "Hey Sharky, Next Message" or "Previous Message." You will
skip the headings and get right to the various replies within that email.
• When focused on math content in Word that you wish to navigate, you can now say "Hey Sharky, Math Viewer." This opens the JAWS Math Viewer where you
can explore the current equation.
• To edit a math equation using the new Braille Math Editor, move to the equation and say "Hey Sharky, Math Editor."
• Toggle the Braille or Text Viewers on or off by saying "Hey Sharky, Braille Viewer" or "Text Viewer."
• Start or stop a JAWS Tandem session by saying "Hey Sharky, Tandem."
• Open the Select a Voice Profile dialog box by saying "Hey Sharky, Voice Profile."
• To access something in the System Tray, try saying "Hey Sharky, System Tray."
• Speak the most recent Windows notification by saying "Hey Sharky, Notification."
• If you have a laptop and want to know the charge level of its battery, just say "Hey Sharky, Battery."
• On a web page, open the Custom Label dialog box for labeling an element by saying "Hey Sharky, Custom Label."
list end

 

Braille Math Editor

 

JAWS and Fusion currently supports reading Math equations on web pages that are displayed using MathML, or math equations in Microsoft Word documents inserted
using the native Word math format. You can navigate the individual elements of an equation using the Math Viewer, accessed by pressing ENTER from a web
page or INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by EQUALS from a Word document when focused on the equation. If JAWS braille translation is set to Unified English Braille
or United States English Grade 1 or Grade 2 output, math expressions are also shown on a braille display using Nemeth Braille format.

 

The new Braille Math Editor in JAWS now enables braille users in Windows 10 to input their own equations, and in Office 365, edit existing equations in
Word documents. To open the Math Editor, press the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+EQUALS (plus sign). Focus braille display users can
also press DOTS 3-4-6-7 CHORD.

 

When the Math Editor opens, focus is placed into an edit field where you can immediately begin typing the equation in Nemeth braille from your braille
display's keyboard. As you type, a preview pane below the edit field visually displays the equation so a sighted teacher or parent can review it. Once
you are finished inputting the math equation, press ENTER or choose the Accept button to close the Math Editor. If you are in Word, the equation you entered
is automatically inserted into the document at your current location. The equation is also copied to the Clipboard so you can paste it in other applications.

 

Opening the Math Editor while focused on a math equation in a Word document displays the existing equation in Nemeth Braille, allowing you to edit or replace
it. After making any changes and pressing ENTER to close the editor, the current equation in the document is replaced by the new or modified equation.

 

Note: After inserting or modifying an equation in Word from the Math Editor, the blinking cursor (dots 7 and 8) on the braille display always remains at
the beginning of the math content, even as you move by character with the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys. If you need to insert another line of math content,
first press the END key to move to the end of the current math content and then press ENTER.

 

While the Math Editor is opened, you have the following additional options:

 

list of 3 items
• Press CTRL+N to start a new equation.
• Press CTRL+P to preview the current equation in the Math Viewer. When finished, press ESC to return to the Math Editor.
• Press ALT+E to open the edit menu where you can copy your Nemeth Braille to the Clipboard using a specific format. MathML is the default format when
copying, however, depending on the application where you intend to paste the equation, you can also choose to copy your Nemeth Braille to LaTeX or Braille
ASCII. After choosing a format to copy to, paste the equation into the specific application before pressing ENTER or selecting Accept to close the Math
Editor as this always copies as MathML and will erase the current clipboard contents.
list end

 

To learn more about Nemeth Braille, check out this
Nemeth Tutorial
 which teaches this braille code beginning with the very basics up through advanced mathematics.

 

Other Changes
list of 12 items
• Resolved an issue where JAWS was not announcing the download status of files in Edge Chromium.
• Addressed an issue where the text of a link in a GMail message was not being read if it spanned multiple lines.
• When selecting a link or button on a web page that opens a modal dialog such as a calendar, resolved an issue where JAWS was reading the entire contents
of the dialog all at once as soon as it gained focus.
• JAWS now indicates when you move in and out of text in Google Docs that is marked as a suggestion.
• Expanded the description in Commands Search for setting a temporary PlaceMarker (CTRL+WINDOWS+K) to describe how this keystroke is used as part of selecting
text.
• Added the Copy Speech History to Clipboard keystroke (INSERT+SPACEBAR, CTRL+H) to Commands Search.
• Updated the description in Commands Search for the Read Address Bar keystroke (INSERT+A) so it can be found by searching for either "URL" or "address."
• If the Navigation Quick Key Manager is launched from an Outlook message, the Navigation Quick Key N for moving through messages in a thread, is now listed
so you can reassign it if necessary. The Navigation Quick Key Manager is located in the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2).
• Resolved an issue where Navigation Quick Keys in Outlook messages would sometimes unexpectedly stop working until you moved focus away then back to the
message.
• When selecting text in Outlook messages for copying and pasting, addressed an issue where selection was not always working as expected, causing the wrong
text to be selected. This occurred most often in messages containing lists.
• Updated the INSERT+H help for Excel to list all of the latest JAWS hot keys.
• Added a new dictionary rule for "FYI" so JAWS no longer says the more verbose "for your information" when encountering this acronym.
list end

 

NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that disclosing, copying, distributing, or any other use of this message, is strictly prohibited. In such case, please destroy this message and notify the sender.


moderated Re: JAWS and read only fields

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Don, 

to test this on my own PC I opened JAWS help menu and selected the info menu item. There are several read only edits there but in every edit box I didn't hear JAWS announce to enter text. Can you provide some sample application or sample web page so one could have a closer look? 

All the best 
Udo 

Am 03.06.2021 um 18:58 schrieb Don Mauck <don.mauck@...>:

Hi, I have a user who is complaining that JAWS is announcing “Read-only” fields along with type in text” and they think that the read only fields should not say “type in text”.

This has never really bothered me too much but is there a way to control this? I sure cannot find any documentation on stopping that unless it would be a scheme of some kind.



moderated Re: when a jaws user dies

Eric Damery <edamery@...>
 

The Perpetual ILM license must be at current release level, and then the owner (or widow), would need to call the Customer Service and request to transfer it to a willing party. There is a $75 transfer fee owned at that time and we would need to know the new owner to get their registration recorded.

 

Regards,

Eric

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: when a jaws user dies

 

CAUTION: This email originated outside Vispero. Do not click links, open attachments or forward unless you recognize the sender.

 

Hi Eric,

 

What would the widow have to do to sell and transfer the license to someone?  I've been asked this question on several occasions and my answer is to call Vispero / FS because I don't have a clue.

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Eric Damery

Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 6:29 AM

Subject: Re: when a jaws user dies

 

Stan,

Please encourage your friend to reach out to Freedom Scientific Customer Service at 800-444-4443. In the event the license was ILM and there was a remaining SMA on the license, I'm certain that something would be done to extend her a refund for that unused portion.

Regards,
Eric


moderated Re: when a jaws user dies

Mike B.
 


Hi Eric,
 
What would the widow have to do to sell and transfer the license to someone?  I've been asked this question on several occasions and my answer is to call Vispero / FS because I don't have a clue.
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: when a jaws user dies

Stan,

Please encourage your friend to reach out to Freedom Scientific Customer Service at 800-444-4443. In the event the license was ILM and there was a remaining SMA on the license, I'm certain that something would be done to extend her a refund for that unused portion.

Regards,
Eric


moderated Re: when a jaws user dies

Eric Damery <edamery@...>
 

Stan,

Please encourage your friend to reach out to Freedom Scientific Customer Service at 800-444-4443. In the event the license was ILM and there was a remaining SMA on the license, I'm certain that something would be done to extend her a refund for that unused portion.

Regards,
Eric


moderated JAWS and read only fields

Don Mauck
 

Hi, I have a user who is complaining that JAWS is announcing “Read-only” fields along with type in text” and they think that the read only fields should not say “type in text”.

This has never really bothered me too much but is there a way to control this? I sure cannot find any documentation on stopping that unless it would be a scheme of some kind.


moderated Re: script: sound on webpage

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi William, 

what do you want do do exactly: Open a new web page und if a particular word is on the site then hearing a sound? Or on the other hand walking through the site and if JAWS detects during your visit a particular word then play a sound? 

The first one could be solved via using a script but I think it's important to know the browser you are using. 

The second one could be made by using a dictionary entry for JAWS Dictionary but instead of speaking a word one could use a sound. These dictionary entries could also be made for a particular site and not only for the browser itself. 

All the best
Udo 



Am 01.06.2021 um 12:36 schrieb William Windels <william.windels@...>:

Hello

 

I supose there is now default option in jaws but perhaps with scripts:
I want to play a sound when a particular word is on a webpage.

 

Google is not giving a answer after a first look.

 

thx alot for any ideas

 

--
Met vriendelijke groeten
William Windels
Incident Manager SWF

 



moderated Re: Ipad

kylee@...
 

Not a bit, sorry.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Ipad

 

Rosie here...

does  anyone know how to ummm to move the screen I's using from Apple Ipad that when I use the screen and sometime I went off the screen  and went some where else that I like to move to closer to the right side of Ipadthat I use fingerson right side and it kept miss the screen I's on

I hope I make sence

thanks

 

 

 


moderated Ipad

meow meow
 

Rosie here...
does  anyone know how to ummm to move the screen I's using from Apple Ipad that when I use the screen and sometime I went off the screen  and went some where else that I like to move to closer to the right side of Ipadthat I use fingerson right side and it kept miss the screen I's on
I hope I make sence
thanks
 
 
 


moderated Re: OCR component not installed

aaron lane
 

I ran the repair, and all is good now. Thanks all.

On 6/2/2021 3:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
They do not provide discs any more. I tis all download.
He might check to see if it is downloadable if a repair doesn't do it.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR component not installed

If you have a JAWS disc, it should be there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR component not installed

Do you already have Openbook installed?
I remember there could be an issue with which version of the OCR component was installed.

I'd call FS support.
Or, try a Jaws repair.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd36d51ec08454cd2913008d926014042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637582609074581024%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=ChGjxsztOjKYlDILOTj%2BubC2rhCluKwgshNIELTlLH0%3D&amp;reserved=0



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR component not installed

I just downloaded JAWS 21 yesterday, with an internet connection, and when I try to use OCR, I get a message that says OCR component not installed. Do I need to run the installer again, or is there an alternative?



















moderated Re: The List

James Homuth
 

Emails to the list owner address get responses if there’s something I can actually do about the subject of the email. But not if they don’t get sent to the list owner address…

 

James,

List Admin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: June 2, 2021 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The List

 

Hi, Sieghard. Gil probably knows about that link. What he is saying, and what I have said in the past is that, when we write to the owner address for this list,

 

jfw+owner@groups.io

 

we don't get a response from the owner. So, he is asking how to contact the owner, since the list owner appears to be an absentee moderator.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The List

 

Each message has this in the footer:

If you have any concerns about the list, posts received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the

list owner at

jfw+owner@groups.io

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gilbert Pries
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The List

 

Hi Richard,

I'm trying to change my display name in myy groups.io accountto Pastor Gil Pries, and I can't seem to be able to do it.

 

Pastor Gil Pries

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The List

 

Not that one would notice very often.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gilbert Pries
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 5:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: The List

 

Hi,

Is there a moderator monitoring the list right now??

 

Thanks,

 

Pastor Gil Pries


moderated Re: OCR component not installed

Richard Turner
 

They do not provide discs any more. I tis all download.
He might check to see if it is downloadable if a repair doesn't do it.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR component not installed

If you have a JAWS disc, it should be there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR component not installed

Do you already have Openbook installed?
I remember there could be an issue with which version of the OCR component was installed.

I'd call FS support.
Or, try a Jaws repair.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd36d51ec08454cd2913008d926014042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637582609074581024%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=ChGjxsztOjKYlDILOTj%2BubC2rhCluKwgshNIELTlLH0%3D&amp;reserved=0



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR component not installed

I just downloaded JAWS 21 yesterday, with an internet connection, and when I try to use OCR, I get a message that says OCR component not installed. Do I need to run the installer again, or is there an alternative?


moderated Re: OCR component not installed

Adrian Spratt
 

If you have a JAWS disc, it should be there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR component not installed

Do you already have Openbook installed?
I remember there could be an issue with which version of the OCR component was installed.

I'd call FS support.
Or, try a Jaws repair.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR component not installed

I just downloaded JAWS 21 yesterday, with an internet connection, and when I try to use OCR, I get a message that says OCR component not installed. Do I need to run the installer again, or is there an alternative?


moderated Re: OCR component not installed

Richard Turner
 

Do you already have Openbook installed?
I remember there could be an issue with which version of the OCR component was installed.

I'd call FS support.
Or, try a Jaws repair.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR component not installed

I just downloaded JAWS 21 yesterday, with an internet connection, and when I try to use OCR, I get a message that says OCR component not installed. Do I need to run the installer again, or is there an alternative?


moderated Re: when a jaws user dies

Michael Munn
 

 Agree with the user mentioned above. 
No refund is granted once the item is being purchased. 
Thanks for the inquiry. 
Best regards 
Michael Munn 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 3:03 PM Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:


Good luck trying to  get a refund from FS.  Once you pay for an SMA or annual license, the sale is final.  FS does not automatically renew an annual license.  When it expires, JAWS will simply revert to 40 minute demo mode unless it is renewed by the user.


Gerald



On 6/2/2021 2:37 PM, Stan Holdeman wrote:

Listers: A fellow jaws user and friend recently died. His widow wondered if she would get any money back from Jaws. I said I would ask around.

 

  1. Would an unused SMA be eligible fore refund?
  2. I don’t think he was on a subscription, but if he was, would any unused portion of annual subscription be eligible for refund?
  3. If a subscriber, is renewal automatic or does renewal require positive action by the subscriber? In other words does she need to stop the subscription or be automatically renewed?

Thanks for your help.

Stan

 


moderated Re: JAWS not speaking 'tab' when the tab key is pressed

Bill White
 

Hi, Ann.


To cause JAWS to speak the TAB character when TAB is pressed,

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number
row.
2. Press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
3. In the search box, type "key labels"
4. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
5. Press the letter T, and it will take you to Tab Tab mute.
6. Now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar
to hear, Tab Tab speak.
7. Tab to OK, and press the spacebar.
8. Tab again to Okay, and press ENTER to save and close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS not speaking 'tab' when the tab key is pressed

My student says that JAWS no longer speaks the word "tab" when she
presses the tab key. I believe I read that this is a JAWS
option. Reviewing the "what's new in this update" section of the FS
site, I do not find mention of this feature. if it is in fact a
feature, can someone please tell me how to disable it?

Much thanks,

Ann


moderated Re: when a jaws user dies

Gerald Levy
 


Good luck trying to  get a refund from FS.  Once you pay for an SMA or annual license, the sale is final.  FS does not automatically renew an annual license.  When it expires, JAWS will simply revert to 40 minute demo mode unless it is renewed by the user.


Gerald



On 6/2/2021 2:37 PM, Stan Holdeman wrote:

Listers: A fellow jaws user and friend recently died. His widow wondered if she would get any money back from Jaws. I said I would ask around.

 

  1. Would an unused SMA be eligible fore refund?
  2. I don’t think he was on a subscription, but if he was, would any unused portion of annual subscription be eligible for refund?
  3. If a subscriber, is renewal automatic or does renewal require positive action by the subscriber? In other words does she need to stop the subscription or be automatically renewed?

Thanks for your help.

Stan

 


moderated OCR component not installed

aaron lane
 

I just downloaded JAWS 21 yesterday, with an internet connection, and when I try to use OCR, I get a message that says OCR component not installed. Do I need to run the installer again, or is there an alternative?


moderated when a jaws user dies

Stan Holdeman
 

Listers: A fellow jaws user and friend recently died. His widow wondered if she would get any money back from Jaws. I said I would ask around.

 

  1. Would an unused SMA be eligible fore refund?
  2. I don’t think he was on a subscription, but if he was, would any unused portion of annual subscription be eligible for refund?
  3. If a subscriber, is renewal automatic or does renewal require positive action by the subscriber? In other words does she need to stop the subscription or be automatically renewed?

Thanks for your help.

Stan

 

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