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moderated Re: virtual remote desktop called Workspot is accessible?

Chris Hill
 

Here's what FS has to say on the subject:

https://www.freedomscientific.com/training/remote-desktop-connections/


Frankly, I'd expect it not to work with any other client besides those mentioned.  These types of things are very hard to make accessible, so you really have to do your homework to find out what will and won't work with jaws.


CH

On 5/28/2021 07:55, chandrashekar R. wrote:
Hi there!

Hope you all safe and doing fine?

Today I had accepted an offer from a company and understood that they
use a virtual remote desktop something called Workspot. Really have no
clue an accessibility of Workspot, please suggest. Since I am joining
company on coming Monday, I look forward for your response.



moderated Re: verbosity advice

Phillip Gross
 

I’ve never seen 2 people who like exactly the same information I’d in the same way. Unfortunately, you have the right idea. Go through it, understand each setting before you start, and set it where you’re comfortable.


After you finish, go ahead and export your settings to a flash drive or cloud storage. That way if anything happens you will have them in the future.


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Phillip Gross
 

Okay I’ll try to answer a few questions. First, as I said before, I don’t think it’s JAWS. I just wanted to cover all of my bases.

To the person who asked why I think it’s a leak I explained that several messages back.

Richard, I don’t think it’s a hardware issue with the ram. I ran memory diagnostics and it came out fine. I also let the thing sit still playing Amazon Prime video for several hours 1 day and it didn’t eat memory. As soon as I start working on something though it disappears.

I have tried turning Maxxaudio off. I even went as far as uninstalling it and using the Microsoft sound drivers. It didn’t work when I did it a couple of months ago but what the hell I might try it again. I am curious about one thing though. When you disable it on startup how do you get it to recognize when you plug in a headset? A lot of people, including me when I had it disabled, couldn’t get it to recognize that a headset was plugged in. It would just continue to speak through the speakers. The only around this was to plug in the headphones before starting the computer.


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

In reading about Wave Max on the web, it seems to be the bane of many Del computer users.

It is supposed to enhance audio for home theater/gaming, but there have been a lot of complaints about it and most people don’t miss it when they turn it off.

 

I have had one odd audio issue and will be curious to see if that goes away since I turned it off and rebooted a few moments ago.

I checked, and it stayed turned off; so we shall see.

 

I’ve not noticed the memory issue, but I have had programs close suddenly, which may have been caused by that.

 

Richard

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- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

I had the same problem with an XPS 8940. It’s not JAWS. Go into your startup apps, and disable WaveMax audio. Restart your computer. $20 says you don’t have memory problems anymore.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: May 28, 2021 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

Okay I have been running the latest version of JAWS 2021 since this started in February, so I am on my third update.  I have a new Dell XPS that keeps running out of memory. The amount of ram, 32 GB, definitely isn’t the problem. I’ve chased memory leaks down in all of the normal ways, and I can’t find anything. I have reinstalled windows twice at this point.

Has anyone seen issues of a memory leak with JAWS? As I said in the subject line I’m grasping at straws, and I doubt it’s the problem, but I figured it didn’t hurt to ask.


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Jeff Christiansen
 

 

I am running two Dells, and have not seen the same.

What makes you think there is a memory leak?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 4:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

Okay I have been running the latest version of JAWS 2021 since this started in February, so I am on my third update.  I have a new Dell XPS that keeps running out of memory. The amount of ram, 32 GB, definitely isn’t the problem. I’ve chased memory leaks down in all of the normal ways, and I can’t find anything. I have reinstalled windows twice at this point.

Has anyone seen issues of a memory leak with JAWS? As I said in the subject line I’m grasping at straws, and I doubt it’s the problem, but I figured it didn’t hurt to ask.


moderated Microsoft Edge Version 91.0.864.37 not preserving startup setting

Bill White
 

Just posting a report that Microsoft Edge Version 91.0.864.37 is not preserving a startup setting with regard to allowing a custom URL. It always opens with Continue where you left off, regardless of how it is currently set. I have spoken to the Microsoft disability desk, and they are aware of it.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

James Homuth
 

It’s supposed to be an audio enhancement service. Presumably it adjusts your settings depending on what type of headphones you’re wearing. I find it doesn’t make much difference and only eats memory.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: May 28, 2021 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

What is WaveMax used for and what will happen if I disable it?

On 5/28/2021 11:32 AM, James Homuth wrote:

I had the same problem with an XPS 8940. It’s not JAWS. Go into your startup apps, and disable WaveMax audio. Restart your computer. $20 says you don’t have memory problems anymore.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: May 28, 2021 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

Okay I have been running the latest version of JAWS 2021 since this started in February, so I am on my third update.  I have a new Dell XPS that keeps running out of memory. The amount of ram, 32 GB, definitely isn’t the problem. I’ve chased memory leaks down in all of the normal ways, and I can’t find anything. I have reinstalled windows twice at this point.

Has anyone seen issues of a memory leak with JAWS? As I said in the subject line I’m grasping at straws, and I doubt it’s the problem, but I figured it didn’t hurt to ask.


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Marty Hutchings
 

What is WaveMax used for and what will happen if I disable it?

On 5/28/2021 11:32 AM, James Homuth wrote:

I had the same problem with an XPS 8940. It’s not JAWS. Go into your startup apps, and disable WaveMax audio. Restart your computer. $20 says you don’t have memory problems anymore.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: May 28, 2021 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

Okay I have been running the latest version of JAWS 2021 since this started in February, so I am on my third update.  I have a new Dell XPS that keeps running out of memory. The amount of ram, 32 GB, definitely isn’t the problem. I’ve chased memory leaks down in all of the normal ways, and I can’t find anything. I have reinstalled windows twice at this point.

Has anyone seen issues of a memory leak with JAWS? As I said in the subject line I’m grasping at straws, and I doubt it’s the problem, but I figured it didn’t hurt to ask.


moderated virtual remote desktop called Workspot is accessible?

chandrashekar R.
 

Hi there!

Hope you all safe and doing fine?

Today I had accepted an offer from a company and understood that they
use a virtual remote desktop something called Workspot. Really have no
clue an accessibility of Workspot, please suggest. Since I am joining
company on coming Monday, I look forward for your response.



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moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

James Homuth
 

I had the same problem with an XPS 8940. It’s not JAWS. Go into your startup apps, and disable WaveMax audio. Restart your computer. $20 says you don’t have memory problems anymore.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: May 28, 2021 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

 

Okay I have been running the latest version of JAWS 2021 since this started in February, so I am on my third update.  I have a new Dell XPS that keeps running out of memory. The amount of ram, 32 GB, definitely isn’t the problem. I’ve chased memory leaks down in all of the normal ways, and I can’t find anything. I have reinstalled windows twice at this point.

Has anyone seen issues of a memory leak with JAWS? As I said in the subject line I’m grasping at straws, and I doubt it’s the problem, but I figured it didn’t hurt to ask.


moderated Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Pam, 

do you mean this page: 


If yes then: 
I had a quick look at this page on my Mac with VoiceOver because I can't test this with JAWS yet. To make it short: there's a button "LOG IN". By pressing this button a windows appears with two edit fields in which you can write your ID and password. I tried to focus the edits but they weren't listet by listing all controls in this site. So if you use JAWS, press the button to show the popup menu with the edit fields and using f key to select a form filed, if you do this with JAWS and can't access this edit fields I assume the controls are not listet properly in this site and I would contact the web site owners to inform them about this. 

All the best
Udo 

Am 28.05.2021 um 16:26 schrieb Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@...>:

Hi,

 

Is anyone using JAWS to access Northwest Bank?  When attempting to log in, there is something that says “login button”, but it does nothing when pressed, and there is no place to enter a user id or password.

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 



moderated Re: Opening PDFs in Word

 

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:08 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
When I do feel that something is getting lost, I will share a document with you, so we can determine what is exactly happening.
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That'll work.  It's way, way easier to address a specific case than even try to deal with something like this in broad generalities.  Sometimes broad generalities work, and are indeed preferable, but not here.
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moderated Re: Opening PDFs in Word

Rahul Bajaj
 

Thank you, Brian. The contnet loss of some words happened for me a
long time ago. So I do not have the documents at hand right now.

I will use this method for all PDFs from now on. When I do feel that
something is getting lost, I will share a document with you, so we can
determine what is exactly happening.

Warmly,
Rahul

On 28/05/2021, Panagiotis Antonopoulos <pantonop2856@gmail.com> wrote:
I can hardly agree more Brian,

Take care,
Takis



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 28 Μαΐου 2021 18:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDFs in Word



Takis,

Believe me, I can understand the appeal, but you've now identified
the plusses and minuses, again. I have said repeatedly, and will always
say, that accessibility (regardless of exactly what type) is a workaround.
You are substituting one sensory modality (audition, in the case of screen
readers) for vision, and when doing so you have to make some choices about
how to organize things that simply don't have to be made for the sensory
modality the thing being accessed was originally aimed at. Shortcomings of
one kind or another are inherent in this process, as no given sensory
modality is 100% directly convertible to another in a way that's as freely
and automatically accessible in the native one.

I can imagine using Word for PDF almost all of the time and
double-checking when you suspect something may be missing, as that's as
close as you're going to get using a conversion method from PDF, not
originally generated by Word (which is most of them). The conversion itself
is noted to be an imperfect process, usually one where formatting only is
lost, though. I'd have to be given specific examples of PDFs where content
loss is suspected and play with them myself to determine as best I can what
has actually occurred. This isn't something easily, or accurately,
described in the abstract.
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are
not.

~ André Gide








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moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

John Covici
 

Are you looking at all processes or just applications in your task
manager? If in all processes, you should get most memory accounted
for.

On Fri, 28 May 2021 10:58:31 -0400,
Phillip Gross wrote:

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To the person who asked about my browser, that would be a hell of a lot of tabs. lol. One of the first things I wondered though was if the latest version of edge, which was what I was using, had a memory leak. I ran chrome and Firefox each for a day. That didn't help. Unless I'm doing a bunch of research which can happen while I'm working, I try not to keep more than one or two tabs open at a time.





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moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Could there be a problem with the RAM itself? I'd be on Del tech support immediately if not sooner.



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On May 28, 2021, at 7:58 AM, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> wrote:

To the person who asked about my browser, that would be a hell of a lot of tabs. lol. One of the first things I wondered though was if the latest version of edge, which was what I was using, had a memory leak. I ran chrome and Firefox each for a day. That didn't help. Unless I'm doing a bunch of research which can happen while I'm working, I try not to keep more than one or two tabs open at a time.


moderated Re: Opening PDFs in Word

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

I can hardly agree more Brian,

                                                                Take care, Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 28 Μαΐου 2021 18:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDFs in Word

 

Takis,

          Believe me, I can understand the appeal, but you've now identified the plusses and minuses, again.  I have said repeatedly, and will always say, that accessibility (regardless of exactly what type) is a workaround.  You are substituting one sensory modality (audition, in the case of screen readers) for vision, and when doing so you have to make some choices about how to organize things that simply don't have to be made for the sensory modality the thing being accessed was originally aimed at.  Shortcomings of one kind or another are inherent in this process, as no given sensory modality is 100% directly convertible to another in a way that's as freely and automatically accessible in the native one.

           I can imagine using Word for PDF almost all of the time and double-checking when you suspect something may be missing, as that's as close as you're going to get using a conversion method from PDF, not originally generated by Word (which is most of them).  The conversion itself is noted to be an imperfect process, usually one where formatting only is lost, though.  I'd have to be given specific examples of PDFs where content loss is suspected and play with them myself to determine as best I can what has actually occurred.  This isn't something easily, or accurately, described in the abstract.
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Opening PDFs in Word

 

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 10:59 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
I just can’t afford any text getting lost. And hence am wondering if any text does indeed get lost when this is done. 
-  
I have never had that happen.  But the way you stated things in your opening message, my impression is that, at the very least, you believe you have.

As I said in my immediately previous message, I'd have to have examples of files where that seems to have occurred, and open them in Word myself, to take a look at exactly what has happened.  (I believe you may be new here, and as such I'll mention that I am sighted.  I also have an extensive background with screen readers and other assistive technologies.)
 
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Opening PDFs in Word

 

Takis,

          Believe me, I can understand the appeal, but you've now identified the plusses and minuses, again.  I have said repeatedly, and will always say, that accessibility (regardless of exactly what type) is a workaround.  You are substituting one sensory modality (audition, in the case of screen readers) for vision, and when doing so you have to make some choices about how to organize things that simply don't have to be made for the sensory modality the thing being accessed was originally aimed at.  Shortcomings of one kind or another are inherent in this process, as no given sensory modality is 100% directly convertible to another in a way that's as freely and automatically accessible in the native one.

           I can imagine using Word for PDF almost all of the time and double-checking when you suspect something may be missing, as that's as close as you're going to get using a conversion method from PDF, not originally generated by Word (which is most of them).  The conversion itself is noted to be an imperfect process, usually one where formatting only is lost, though.  I'd have to be given specific examples of PDFs where content loss is suspected and play with them myself to determine as best I can what has actually occurred.  This isn't something easily, or accurately, described in the abstract.
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Opening PDFs in Word

Rahul Bajaj
 

Brian, thank you. The warning, as I understand it, is only as regards the original format not being preserved. That is not a problem for me. I just can’t afford any text getting lost. And hence am wondering if any text does indeed get lost when this is done. 

Warmly,
Rahul



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Panagiotis Antonopoulos <pantonop2856@...>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 8:06:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Opening PDFs in Word
 

Hi Brian/all,

The big issue with pefs which make it seductive to have them converted to word, is at least for me, the fact that in many cases but unfortunately not all, footnotes are rendered accessible at the right point. With a real pdf a blind person cannot access them, unless I am missing something, while a sighted reader can see them at the bottom of the page. If a blind person keeps reading and comes to them, and there are a handful of them at the end of a page, then they become irrelevant, as they can not be accessed on their appropriate spot.

                                                                Only a reason, albeit very important in my case for this conversion,

                                                                Cheers,

                                                                Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Παρασκευή, 28 Μαΐου 2021 17:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Opening PDFs in Word

 

Word itself warns you that there can be issues converting from PDF to Word for PDF documents not generated by Word itself.

While I understand the convenience, if 100% accuracy with regard to original content must be preserved, then use a PDF reader only to read PDFs when that's the case.
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: I’m grasping at straws, but has anyone had memory problems with jaws?

Phillip Gross
 

To the person who asked about my browser, that would be a hell of a lot of tabs. lol. One of the first things I wondered though was if the latest version of edge, which was what I was using, had a memory leak. I ran chrome and Firefox each for a day. That didn't help. Unless I'm doing a bunch of research which can happen while I'm working, I try not to keep more than one or two tabs open at a time.

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