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moderated Re: Looking for Info to Help a Friend Upgrade JFW

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

I'll tell you that the best is to go the Annual Online Renewal and jump right up to the 2021. If the individual goes with the SMA Service Maintaineance Agreement he will have to pay for all the years skipped and that is just not worth it any more for his situation. With the online portal he can then buy a multiple year subscription for either 1, 2, 3, or 5 years.

Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 7:34 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Looking for Info to Help a Friend Upgrade JFW

Hi, Guys.
A friend wants to upgrade from JFW2018 to JFW2021 and asked me about the different radio button options for payment that came up when he tried to upgrade. Where should I look on FS/Vespero's website to understand payment/plan options?

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Looking for Info to Help a Friend Upgrade JFW

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Guys.
A friend wants to upgrade from JFW2018 to JFW2021 and asked me about
the different radio button options for payment that came up when he
tried to upgrade. Where should I look on FS/Vespero's website to
understand payment/plan options?

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Re: Turning off Reading Layout viewing JAWS?

Bill White
 

Hi, Tim. The place where you want to turn off Read mode in Microsoft Word is in the General Options of Microsoft Word, not in JAWS.

1. Open Word.
2. Press ALT, followed by the letters F, then T, for Options.
3. In General options, uncheck “Open e-mail attachments and other editable files in reading view”.
4. TAB to OK, and press ENTER.
5. Now your documents should open in Print layout instead of Reading layoug.

If you need more help, I can send you my telephone number privately, and I will do a JAWS Tandem with you to help you solve this problem.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Turning off Reading Layout viewing JAWS?

Hello All,

I have a new installation of Office 2013. With Word 2013, I am suddenly getting a JAWS warning message about not supporting Reading Layout view, and I need to turn it off. I cannot find any way to do this. Any advice would be much appreciated. The way it is now, I cannot get to any text in the document.


Tim Ford


moderated Turning off Reading Layout viewing JAWS?

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

I have a new installation of Office 2013. With Word 2013, I am suddenly getting a JAWS warning message about not supporting Reading Layout view, and I need to turn it off. I cannot find any way to do this. Any advice would be much appreciated. The way it is now, I cannot get to any text in the document.


Tim Ford


moderated m.facebook.com Jaws2020 profile photos

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  I’m using jaws2020  desktop and laptop  computer Windows10 !! When I’m  on m.facebook.com  or mbasic.facebook.com  website   then when I get to search edit box  to type  in Gethers funeral home inc  then press enter on search button  when the next page  show up when I arrow down  where it say gethers funeral home inc  search  then I arrow down  there is no  profile photos  gethers funeral home inc. where I can press enter on it to take me to Gethers Funeral Home Inc  page   at all  and the same goes for some churches too. I was told  today by a friend  saying that facebook have a new page  because  I was using old facebook page  !! Does  anybody  know about the new page  for m.facebook.com  or mbasic.facebook.com ?

Addison


moderated Re: Download alerts with Edge

Bill White
 

Hi, Alison. What version of JAWS are you using? If I have downloads set to ask me where I want to put the download each time, and I also have Edge show me the download menu when the download starts, I can TAB to the Save As button, and once I press that, I can also TAB to the place where I choose where to put the download, and I can also TAB to the Save button, once I have made a decision as to where the download will go. This may not work if you are using a JAWS version earlier than JAWS 2020.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 8:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Download alerts with Edge

Thanks for sharing this but my problem now is that after hitting control J Jaws isn't reading the Open or Save As buttons.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: 28 April 2021 22:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Download alerts with Edge

Hi again listers:

Well, I found out what was wrong with the download alerts in Edge.
I'm always worried I hit something and messed things up, but, it was not so. Here's a message I just got from Vispero support:

Hello Joseph:
Microsoft updated Edge. They changed the location of the download alert from the lower left of the screen to the upper right. You can still access the download info by pressing control j for the downloads folder then tab to your current download in the list. Development is awear of the issue.

Regards,

Sarai


Hope this helps.

On 4/25/21, Bill White <billwhite92701@att.net> wrote:
Hi again, Joseph. If you want to hear Edge alerts for downloads, once
you have pressed ENTER on a download link, press CONTROL plus J to
take you to the downloads section. After you have pressed CONTROL plus
J, you will once again hear your download alerts.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@att.net> billwhite92701@att.net

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph Norton
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 4:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Download alerts with Edge

Hi all:

I have the latest JAWS and my Windows 10 updates are current.

When I run Edge, and I download a file, JAWS now does not repeat
download status.

In the past, this has been annoying, at times, because those alerts
interrupt any other speech. But, it am now unaware if/when a download
finishes.

I found that the alerts are still spoken with Chrome.

Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10








moderated Re: Instant Messenger Question

Jasmine Kotsay
 

Thank you for your suggestions. I’m not into social media.

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger Question

 

This is a good question. Facebook and Twitter mean that things like AOL Instant Messenger and MSN went out of business. I only know of Skype and texting anymore, and social media.



On May 6, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@...> wrote:



Hi,

I’m so sorry! I wasn’t clear. I am looking for something that can be used on the computer. I don’t have Facebook, so I can’t use that.

 

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger Question

 

Hi Jasmine,

 

Facebook chat is accessible. I also use that through Facebook Messenger on my iPhone. Also, consider WhatsApp.




On May 6, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@...> wrote:



Hi,

I was wondering, are there any good instant messengers that are accessible? Other than Skype, which I don’t use, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 


moderated Re: Instant Messenger Question

Michael Walker
 

This is a good question. Facebook and Twitter mean that things like AOL Instant Messenger and MSN went out of business. I only know of Skype and texting anymore, and social media.

On May 6, 2021, at 2:44 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@...> wrote:



Hi,

I’m so sorry! I wasn’t clear. I am looking for something that can be used on the computer. I don’t have Facebook, so I can’t use that.

 

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger Question

 

Hi Jasmine,

 

Facebook chat is accessible. I also use that through Facebook Messenger on my iPhone. Also, consider WhatsApp.



On May 6, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@...> wrote:



Hi,

I was wondering, are there any good instant messengers that are accessible? Other than Skype, which I don’t use, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 


moderated Re: Instant Messenger Question

Jasmine Kotsay
 

Hi,

I’m so sorry! I wasn’t clear. I am looking for something that can be used on the computer. I don’t have Facebook, so I can’t use that.

 

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Instant Messenger Question

 

Hi Jasmine,

 

Facebook chat is accessible. I also use that through Facebook Messenger on my iPhone. Also, consider WhatsApp.



On May 6, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@...> wrote:



Hi,

I was wondering, are there any good instant messengers that are accessible? Other than Skype, which I don’t use, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 


moderated Re: Instant Messenger Question

Michael Walker
 

Hi Jasmine,

Facebook chat is accessible. I also use that through Facebook Messenger on my iPhone. Also, consider WhatsApp.

On May 6, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay@...> wrote:



Hi,

I was wondering, are there any good instant messengers that are accessible? Other than Skype, which I don’t use, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 


moderated Instant Messenger Question

Jasmine Kotsay
 

Hi,

I was wondering, are there any good instant messengers that are accessible? Other than Skype, which I don’t use, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2021 (latest build) and Facebook Messenger app on Windows 10

Paul Faucheux
 

hi orlando i can reproduce this issue as well. i got the same message as you when it comes to facebook messenger from vispero support. i believe that this is a jaws issue. i would suggest turning off  spell checking in jaws.


On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 9:50 AM Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:
Hey guys,
I have a fix to your problem.  Google miranda-ng
It's an awesome program, and you can use it to do facebook messaging just fine.
I've been using it for years, and it works great, use it every day.
If you need help, let me know.  Here are a few things.  When you
install it, read through the options carefully.  There's an option in
there to install the contact list for blind folks, yes they actually
thought of us.  Make absolutely sure that you do that, or your
experience will not be good.
Just go through the install slowly, and you should be fine.

Cheers,

Jed

On 5/6/21, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
> Yeah Orland I've noticed this as well. Also I notice this behavior using
> the basic mobile site with JAWS. I'm having to constantly to check my
> spelling before I send. Typical FS responce BTW.
>
> On 5/6/2021 12:37 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via groups.io wrote:
>> Hi all. Using the latest builds of Windows 10 and JAWS 2021, I'm
>> encountering an extremely frustrating problem with Facebook's
>> dedicated Messenger app, available from the Microsoft store. When in
>> the edit field typing messages, every single solitary word gets
>> misspelled, even though I've typed every word correctly. That is, with
>> keyboard set to read both characters and words, when I press space
>> after a word, J READS IT ACCURATELY> However, when I arrow through the
>> message text, every word is misspelled with one or more missing
>> characters.
>> Vispero tech support claims it doesn't support this app, so, we're on
>> our own. As all may have guessed, this typing/spelling problem does
>> not occur with NOR OR NVDA. For now, I'm forced to keep a Notepad
>> window open, type all my messages in it, then paste them into the
>> Messenger app. But that's cumbersome, when this simple process of
>> typing in an ordinary edit field should work as it does in every other
>> application.
>> Can anyone else test this and confirm or refute my findings?
>>
>>
>> Orlando Enrique Fiol
>> Charlotte, North Carolina
>> Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
>> Ph.D. in Music theory
>> University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
>> Home: (980) 585-1516
>> Mobile: (267) 971-7090
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>






moderated online training on web development and word press for visually impaired.

Richard B. McDonald
 

See the below email. This might be of interest.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of accessible tech malayalam
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] online training on web development and word press for visually impaired.

Hello dear visually impaired friends,
Greetings from vi tech world!
Technology is developing in various different fields.
But, the future of technology is going to depend on websites and web-based systems.
We, vi tech world is starting a training on fundamentals of web development and WordPress for visually impaired learners.
Web development is a most demanded topic in the tech market since 2011.
This training is fully beginner level, and 100% accessible for visually impaired candidates.
Anyone who has intermediate computer usage experience can join this course.
Note: no programming knowledge required.

Course details.
Name: fundamentals of web development and WordPress.
Start date for registration: May 6, 2021.
End date for registration: May 11, 2021.
Cost for the training: 3 USD or 221 INR.
Course duration: 20 days.

Concepts covered
1. Fundamentals of html.
2. Fundamentals of CSS
3. Structural designing of websites for beginners.
4. Basics of domain, hosting.
5. Localhost for development.
6. Hosting/ server management.
7. SSL and Cloudflare.
8. Introduction to PHP scripts and basic installation of WordPress.
9. Fundamental setup of WordPress.
10. Designing website interface.
11. WordPress themes and plugins.
12. Registering as a freelancer for online jobs on web development.
13. Conclusion.

Prerequisites
Any visually impaired person that meets following criteria can join this training.
· Should be a visually impaired person
· Should understand English
· Should know at least basic computer skills and screen reader usage.
· Should have their own laptop/desktop with windows 10).
· Should have an active internet connection
· Should be able to give 1 hour time per day for the course.

For more info and registration, contact us:
Email: haroonkareemofficial@gmail.com
Phone; +91 7593988738
WhatsApp: +918943031760
Telegram: https://t.me/tech_explorers

--
with best regards, Haroon kareem T.K


moderated how to access other windows devicess using the ms teams.

Shankar C
 

Hello all, greetings.
Hope every 1is doing good at this tough time.
I’m facing some weird issue on ms teams.
In the recent version of the teams, when I keeping the focus on the
content shared by x y z and pressing enter, screen reader was reading
like x y z has shared the contents press enter to focus and I was able
to access other systems when I get the ctrls.
But, in the latest version of the ms teams, when I press enter on the
content shared by, the focus is shifting to the profile card. And, I’m
unable to access other systems though I have the ctrls.
Please suggest me some alternatives to access other devices
Screen reader and ms teams details are as follows.
Microsoft Teams Version 1.4.00.8872
JAWS Version 2021.2103.174.400


moderated Re: Contact list not showing

Mario
 

would you mind telling us what she did for the work around?

-------- Original Message --------
From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
Subject: Contact list not showing
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2021, 11:17 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
I called Microsoft Accessibility and was told that last night. The woman I talked to said she had a possible way to fix it until the update comes out. She said she tried it with someone else and it worked. Yet she couldn’t get it to work for me. This is the woman with the roosters crowing in the back ground. I had this person twice.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact list not showing



it's a known bug with jaws in Outlook. They're working on it. No idea when It will be fixed.

Randy Barnett


On May 5, 2021, at 11:50 AM, kevin meyers <kman2020@wi.rr.com <mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com> > wrote:





Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Jaws2021 and Outlook 2016. Prior to today I was able to create an email and on the to line I could put a letter and when arrow down I would get a list of all email addresses I had sent an email to in the past. Today I don’t get the list. If I type in just a particular letter and tab it will fill in the first email address that was on the list. In order to get another email address that begins with a particular letter, I have to enter more letters. Yet I get the next closes match. I cannot arrow down to see all the choices. I did a repair on Jaws2021 and the problem still exists. Is there something that could be causing this problem?

Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: Contact list not showing

kevin meyers
 

I called Microsoft Accessibility and was told that last night. The woman I talked to said she had a possible way to fix it until the update comes out. She said she tried it with someone else and it worked. Yet she couldn’t get it to work for me. This is the woman with the roosters crowing in the back ground. I had this person twice.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact list not showing

 

it's a known bug with jaws in Outlook. They're working on it. No idea when It will be fixed.

Randy Barnett


On May 5, 2021, at 11:50 AM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Jaws2021 and Outlook 2016. Prior to today I was able to create an email and on the to line I could put a letter and when arrow down I would get a list of all email addresses I had sent an email to in the past. Today I don’t get the list. If I type in just a particular letter and tab it will fill in the first email address that was on the list. In order to get another email address that begins with a particular letter, I have to enter more letters. Yet I get the next closes match. I cannot arrow down to see all the choices. I did a repair on Jaws2021 and the problem still exists. Is there something that could be causing this problem?

Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: JAWS 2021 (latest build) and Facebook Messenger app on Windows 10

Jed Barton
 

Hey guys,
I have a fix to your problem. Google miranda-ng
It's an awesome program, and you can use it to do facebook messaging just fine.
I've been using it for years, and it works great, use it every day.
If you need help, let me know. Here are a few things. When you
install it, read through the options carefully. There's an option in
there to install the contact list for blind folks, yes they actually
thought of us. Make absolutely sure that you do that, or your
experience will not be good.
Just go through the install slowly, and you should be fine.

Cheers,

Jed

On 5/6/21, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah Orland I've noticed this as well. Also I notice this behavior using
the basic mobile site with JAWS. I'm having to constantly to check my
spelling before I send. Typical FS responce BTW.

On 5/6/2021 12:37 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via groups.io wrote:
Hi all. Using the latest builds of Windows 10 and JAWS 2021, I'm
encountering an extremely frustrating problem with Facebook's
dedicated Messenger app, available from the Microsoft store. When in
the edit field typing messages, every single solitary word gets
misspelled, even though I've typed every word correctly. That is, with
keyboard set to read both characters and words, when I press space
after a word, J READS IT ACCURATELY> However, when I arrow through the
message text, every word is misspelled with one or more missing
characters.
Vispero tech support claims it doesn't support this app, so, we're on
our own. As all may have guessed, this typing/spelling problem does
not occur with NOR OR NVDA. For now, I'm forced to keep a Notepad
window open, type all my messages in it, then paste them into the
Messenger app. But that's cumbersome, when this simple process of
typing in an ordinary edit field should work as it does in every other
application.
Can anyone else test this and confirm or refute my findings?


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Charlotte, North Carolina
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
Ph.D. in Music theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090









moderated Re: JAWS 2021 (latest build) and Facebook Messenger app on Windows 10

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Yeah Orland I've noticed this as well. Also I notice this behavior using the basic mobile site with JAWS. I'm having to constantly to check my spelling before I send. Typical FS responce BTW.

On 5/6/2021 12:37 AM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via groups.io wrote:
Hi all. Using the latest builds of Windows 10 and JAWS 2021, I'm encountering an extremely frustrating problem with Facebook's dedicated Messenger app, available from the Microsoft store. When in the edit field typing messages, every single solitary word gets misspelled, even though I've typed every word correctly. That is, with keyboard set to read both characters and words, when I press space after a word, J READS IT ACCURATELY> However, when I arrow through the message text, every word is misspelled with one or more missing characters.
Vispero tech support claims it doesn't support this app, so, we're on our own. As all may have guessed, this typing/spelling problem does not occur with NOR OR NVDA. For now, I'm forced to keep a Notepad window open, type all my messages in it, then paste them into the Messenger app. But that's cumbersome, when this simple process of typing in an ordinary edit field should work as it does in every other application.
Can anyone else test this and confirm or refute my findings?


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Charlotte, North Carolina
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
Ph.D. in Music theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090




moderated Re: keyboard buffer

Alan Robbins
 

I do with large excel sheets. How do you empty the buffer?

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique
Fiol via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: keyboard buffer

Hi again. Lately, using the latest builds of JAWS 2021 and Windows 10, JAWS
quits echoing my keyboard characters and words while typing not resume until
it empties what I'm calling its buffer. That leaves me doing much of my
typing without speech feedback, then having it all read back when the buffer
is emptied.
Is anyone else experiencing this?


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Charlotte, North Carolina
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue Ph.D. in Music
theory University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090


moderated Re: JAWS 2021 (latest build) and Facebook Messenger app on Windows 10

James English
 

Hello,

I find the messenger website on firefox to be the most accessible
method of using it. The app is a joke, don't bother with it when you
don't have to.

- James

On 5/6/21, Orlando Enrique Fiol via groups.io
<ofiol=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all. Using the latest builds of Windows 10 and JAWS 2021, I'm
encountering an extremely frustrating problem with Facebook's
dedicated Messenger app, available from the Microsoft store. When in
the edit field typing messages, every single solitary word gets
misspelled, even though I've typed every word correctly. That is,
with keyboard set to read both characters and words, when I press
space after a word, J READS IT ACCURATELY> However, when I arrow
through the message text, every word is misspelled with one or more
missing characters.
Vispero tech support claims it doesn't support this app, so, we're on
our own. As all may have guessed, this typing/spelling problem does
not occur with NOR OR NVDA. For now, I'm forced to keep a Notepad
window open, type all my messages in it, then paste them into the
Messenger app. But that's cumbersome, when this simple process of
typing in an ordinary edit field should work as it does in every
other application.
Can anyone else test this and confirm or refute my findings?


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Charlotte, North Carolina
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
Ph.D. in Music theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090






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