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moderated Re: Jeff: trying to subscribe to the programming list

Mario
 

no worries.

On 4/16/2021 6:46 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
O dear.  I think i got all my subscription address mixed up. Some lists use Subscribe while others use request, these things pass you me by most times.  My humble appologies.  Cheers!
On 17/4/2021 5:12 am, Mario wrote:
if the address Jaffar posted didn't work, try:

program-l-request@freelists.org

Put "subscribe" in the subject line.
Reply to the confirmation message by clicking on the link in the e-mail you'll get. Check the boxes on the page that comes up, and you'good to go to being able to ask questions.



On 4/16/2021 4:25 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi.  Pardon my carelessness.  The subscription address should be:

program-l+subscribe@freelists.org

Try and let me know if it works.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 4:20 am, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hi List,

Someone suggested to subscribe to the programming list. I have the e-mail address below,

program-l@freelists.org <mailto:program-l@freelists.org>

Do I need to do anything special to get signed up to this list

Anyone know lists for website design, building, and accessibility testing?

Thanks,

Jeff



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moderated Re: [External] : VPN

leonard morris
 

An instructional guide would be greatly appreciated.

On 4/17/2021 6:57 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  There is no vpn client more accessible then Open vpn.  What I'd suggest is that you download the .OVPN files from your express vpn or any other vpn account you are holding, download open vpn, put those files in the appropriate folder, then use Open vpn to access your vpn networks.  Open Vpn is free and is both accessible with Jaws and NVDA.  I could write up a short tutorial on how to use open vpn over the weekend if there is a demand.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 6:44 am, leonard morris wrote:
I have the express VPN on my phone but I would like to make it work on my computer also and I can’t seem to get the it working correctly. some step-by-step instructions would be very helpful. Thank you.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Don Mauck <don.mauck@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 4:49:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>; jfw@groups.io <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [External] : VPN
 

What VPN program are you using?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: [External] : VPN

 

Hello does anyone know how to make a VPN using jaws?

thanks!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


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moderated Re: [External] : VPN

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  There is no vpn client more accessible then Open vpn.  What I'd suggest is that you download the .OVPN files from your express vpn or any other vpn account you are holding, download open vpn, put those files in the appropriate folder, then use Open vpn to access your vpn networks.  Open Vpn is free and is both accessible with Jaws and NVDA.  I could write up a short tutorial on how to use open vpn over the weekend if there is a demand.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 6:44 am, leonard morris wrote:
I have the express VPN on my phone but I would like to make it work on my computer also and I can’t seem to get the it working correctly. some step-by-step instructions would be very helpful. Thank you.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Don Mauck <don.mauck@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 4:49:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>; jfw@groups.io <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [External] : VPN
 

What VPN program are you using?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: [External] : VPN

 

Hello does anyone know how to make a VPN using jaws?

thanks!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


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moderated Re: Jeff: trying to subscribe to the programming list

Jaffar Sidek
 

O dear.  I think i got all my subscription address mixed up. Some lists use Subscribe while others use request, these things pass you me by most times.  My humble appologies.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 5:12 am, Mario wrote:
if the address Jaffar posted didn't work, try:

program-l-request@freelists.org

Put "subscribe" in the subject line.
Reply to the confirmation message by clicking on the link in the e-mail you'll get. Check the boxes on the page that comes up, and you'good to go to being able to ask questions.



On 4/16/2021 4:25 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi.  Pardon my carelessness.  The subscription address should be:

program-l+subscribe@freelists.org

Try and let me know if it works.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 4:20 am, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hi List,

Someone suggested to subscribe to the programming list. I have the e-mail address below,

program-l@freelists.org <mailto:program-l@freelists.org>

Do I need to do anything special to get signed up to this list

Anyone know lists for website design, building, and accessibility testing?

Thanks,

Jeff



moderated Re: [External] : VPN

leonard morris
 

I have the express VPN on my phone but I would like to make it work on my computer also and I can’t seem to get the it working correctly. some step-by-step instructions would be very helpful. Thank you.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Don Mauck <don.mauck@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 4:49:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>; jfw@groups.io <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [External] : VPN
 

What VPN program are you using?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: [External] : VPN

 

Hello does anyone know how to make a VPN using jaws?

thanks!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


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moderated Re: One drive

Tom Behler
 

I thought you might be able to determine this via the usual alt enter command for properties.

 

However, I just tried it, and the command doesn’t give the needed information.

 

Am now curious myself.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cook, Steve
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: One drive

 

How can a person determine how much space is remaining using One Drive.

 

Steve


moderated Which version of Microsoft Teams works better with JAWS?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I’ve had a bad experience with the Microsoft Teams app, and was wondering if the web one is better? At least this time I have the keyboard shortcuts, so that’ll help no matter which one I use.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: gmail folder pain question

Madison Martin
 

That doesn't seem to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: April 16, 2021 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: gmail folder pain question

If you are using the standard view (where j/k move up/down the list of messages), then pressing the left arrow button while in the list of messages should bring up the folder list.
I’m not sure how this is done in the HTML view.


On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Madison Martin <madisonmartin463@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how to maximize my folder pain on the gmail website
and have it stay that way? I'm trying to do something but it's not
showing up and someone on another list (which clearly isn't for screen
reader users) suggested that I maximize my folder pain. I'm using latest Jaws and Edge. Thanks
Madison






moderated Logitech K860 Wireless Ergonomic keyboard for computers and smart phones

Richard Turner
 

Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS

 

I needed a new keyboard as my 15-year-old USB keyboard was starting to have problems with a few keys and my old hands are deciding that it is time to go back to an ergonomic keyboard.

So, after doing some research, I settled on what is rated as one of the better ergonomic keyboards.

 

I was not set on wireless, but that is the way the world is going and since I like Logitech products in general, I went with this one.

Logitech K860 Split wireless Ergonomic keyboard.  It is pricy at $130.

I'll start with the negatives.

 

Cons:

1.  No applications key.

2.  Only one Windows key on the left.

3.  No accessible documentation.  And no true documentation about the hieroglyphic symbols   used on some of the keys.

4.  It is too easy to toggle to the media functions for the function keys.

5.  It is pretty large.  Left to right it is the same width as my standard Wired USB keyboard.  Front to back it is about 1.5 times as deep.  And, of course, much higher off the desk at the front edge due to the curve for the ergonomics of the thing.

6.  *Not really a con, just the nature of ergonomic keyboards, but the split is between the 6 and 7, (and f6 and f7) keys, so for touch typists, the habit of hitting the 6and F6 with your right index finger has to be retrained.

 

Pros:

1.  It is probably the most comfortable keyboard I have ever typed on.  The wrist rest is quite comfortable, and for me, at the right height Plus, it has feet under the front edge so you can raise it up to a more level arrangement which fits me perfectly.  It is already on a slight angle so no real need for feet in the back.

2.  Easy setup with or without the Logitech Options package.  I plugged in the USB receiver turned on the keyboard and Windows 10 had no trouble communicating with it.  There is a little key next to the f12 key that toggles you between standard function keys and the media function keys.  Easy to press accidentally.

3.  It takes two triple A batteries, and they say that they will last 2 years.  I believe it based on my experience with the K480.

4.  This is a full-sized keyboard with the number pad.

5.  If I used the Windows Calculator more, this has a designated key above the Num-lock key to launch the Windows Calculator.

6.  It can connect to 3 devices.  Either 3 Bluetooth devices or 1 USB and 2 Bluetooth, and/or possibly 2 USB devices and one Bluetooth, that isn't clear.  Connecting it to my iPhone was easy after I called their support line.

The three keys for switching between devices are right above the 6 pack, making it a 9 pack.

It is tremendously easy to switch devices.  I wanted to check a key function on my iPhone while I was writing this, so I tapped the iPhone key, (for me device 3)  did my checking, tapped the computer key, (device 1), and finished writing this in Word on my computer.

7.  It has a physical on/off switch located on the back edge and slightly under it.  If you feel where the split is between f6 and f7, and slide your finger straight back, you are on it.  Flipped to the right is on.

8.  It is easy to toggle between the standard function keys and the media function keys.  I know, I listed this under the cons, but for some it would also be a pro.

 

For anyone else who has, or ends up with this keyboard, here is the key layout that involves the missing or extra keys.

 

ON the very top row, it is mostly standard, but here goes starting from the top left key:

Escape

F1

f2

f3

f4

f5

f6

f7

f8

f9

f10

f11

f12

The Function Toggle

Print Screen, which is longer than the other keys.

Device 1

Device 2

Device 3

Calculator key

Battery indicator with one of the hieroglyphic symbols my wife couldn't identify).

I am guessing that is for use with the Logitech Options software.

  Scroll lock key, with another symbol but the letters SC on it.

Windows Lock key.  This key allows you to lock your computer, so you need the password to get back into it, also accomplished with WindowsKey+l.

* Note that the Function Toggle key is directly above the left edge of the backspace key, and the print screen key is above the rest of the backspace key.

 

The first row where the space bar is located is laid out like this:

Control Key

Windows/Options Key

Alt/Command Key

Spacebar with the split in the middle

Alt/Command Key

Function key, which also seems to have the word Options, probably for Mac usage.

Control Key

Then your standard arrow keys followed by the standard numpad.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 


moderated Re: gmail folder pain question

Cohn, Jonathan
 

If you are using the standard view (where j/k move up/down the list of messages), then pressing the left arrow button while in the list of messages should bring up the folder list.
I’m not sure how this is done in the HTML view.

On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Madison Martin <madisonmartin463@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how to maximize my folder pain on the gmail website and have
it stay that way? I'm trying to do something but it's not showing up and someone
on another list (which clearly isn't for screen reader users) suggested that I
maximize my folder pain. I'm using latest Jaws and Edge. Thanks
Madison






moderated Re: Jeff: trying to subscribe to the programming list

Mario
 

if the address Jaffar posted didn't work, try:

program-l-request@freelists.org

Put "subscribe" in the subject line.
Reply to the confirmation message by clicking on the link in the e-mail you'll get. Check the boxes on the page that comes up, and you'good to go to being able to ask questions.

On 4/16/2021 4:25 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi.  Pardon my carelessness.  The subscription address should be:
program-l+subscribe@freelists.org
Try and let me know if it works.  Cheers!
On 17/4/2021 4:20 am, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hi List,

Someone suggested to subscribe to the programming list. I have the e-mail address below,

program-l@freelists.org <mailto:program-l@freelists.org>

Do I need to do anything special to get signed up to this list

Anyone know lists for website design, building, and accessibility testing?

Thanks,

Jeff


moderated Re: [External] : VPN

Don Mauck
 

What VPN program are you using?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: [External] : VPN

 

Hello does anyone know how to make a VPN using jaws?

thanks!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


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moderated VPN

Ryan McManomy
 

Hello does anyone know how to make a VPN using jaws?

thanks!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 




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moderated Outlook Calendar over flow

Don Mauck
 

Hi, I’ve had this issue with my calendar where if I have more than two events on a certain day, I get the following message from JAWS and I cannot get to the next appointment for that day.

Message:  Overflow Button navigates to: Tuesday, April 27, 2021, from 12:00am to Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:00am

I’m using Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.12527.21504 any suggestions would be appreciated.


moderated Re: Jeff: trying to subscribe to the programming list

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  Pardon my carelessness.  The subscription address should be:

program-l+subscribe@...

Try and let me know if it works.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 4:20 am, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hi List,

Someone suggested to subscribe to the programming list. I have the e-mail address below,

program-l@...

Do I need to do anything special to get signed up to this list

Anyone know lists for website design, building, and accessibility testing?

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: Is visual studio accessible?

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi Anne.  Visual studio is definitely accessible.  however, the only edition of visual studio that is free is the community edition.  Visual studio itself is an IDE which stands for Integrated Development Environment.  If your student wants to learn c/c++, then he/she will have to choose the c/c++ compiler and tools as part of the visual studio download because they don't come with the visual studio download automatically.  Feel free to ask if there are more questions.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 3:59 am, Ann Byrne wrote:

My student wants to study programming.  can he expect to be able to use visual c++?  Is that the same as visual studio?  Is the latter accessible?  Is it still possible for a blink to program?  In which languages?

thanks,

Ann





moderated Jeff: trying to subscribe to the programming list

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hi List,

Someone suggested to subscribe to the programming list. I have the e-mail address below,

program-l@...

Do I need to do anything special to get signed up to this list

Anyone know lists for website design, building, and accessibility testing?

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: any programmers or website designers or coders on this list

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Thanks, I think I will join.  I do use puTTY and WinSCP, but do run into issues from time to time.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 4:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jeff Lukacsena: any programmers or website designers or coders on this list

 

I would.  There are people in there   who are qualified and able to help you.  If you are remoting into a linux system with windows, you could use a SSH client.  Putty is a good windows to Linux SSH client.  I am sure there are a few more, but I don't specialize in this, so can't be of much help to you.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 3:48 am, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:

Jaffar,

 

Would you recommend this list for someone in my situation, where most of the issues I encounter relate to using JAWS with remote servers?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jeff Lukacsena: any programmers or website designers or coders on this list

 

Might I recommend you to join the program-l@... programming list?

we are a group of blind and low vision programmers from over the world, helping each other to answer questions and gather programming resources to upgrade our skills and knowledge.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 2:45 am, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hello List,

Just curious if there are any computer programmers, website design, accessibility testers, or coders on this list.

I’m looking for resources to learn. Please share.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: any programmers or website designers or coders on this list

Jaffar Sidek
 

I would.  There are people in there   who are qualified and able to help you.  If you are remoting into a linux system with windows, you could use a SSH client.  Putty is a good windows to Linux SSH client.  I am sure there are a few more, but I don't specialize in this, so can't be of much help to you.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 3:48 am, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:

Jaffar,

 

Would you recommend this list for someone in my situation, where most of the issues I encounter relate to using JAWS with remote servers?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jeff Lukacsena: any programmers or website designers or coders on this list

 

Might I recommend you to join the program-l@... programming list?

we are a group of blind and low vision programmers from over the world, helping each other to answer questions and gather programming resources to upgrade our skills and knowledge.  Cheers!

On 17/4/2021 2:45 am, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hello List,

Just curious if there are any computer programmers, website design, accessibility testers, or coders on this list.

I’m looking for resources to learn. Please share.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Is visual studio accessible?

Soronel Haetir
 

Visual studio is very accessible (and has been for years), though it
may well be confusing to the novice programmer simply due to the
number and kinds of options the interface presents.

On 4/16/21, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
My student wants to study programming. can he expect to be able to
use visual c++? Is that the same as visual studio? Is the latter
accessible? Is it still possible for a blink to program? In which
languages?

thanks,

Ann






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