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moderated is there a place that sells Microsoft office home and business at a discounted price?

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, I am running jaws 18 on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Re: using a pc with a fingerprint/faceID reader?

Rayn Darren
 

I have the same problem Soronel, I've just stopped using it altogether.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: using a pc with a fingerprint/faceID reader?

My problem with the fingerprint scanner has nothing to do with setting it up (that part went fine), it's just that whether it works for actual login is very hit-or-miss and it doesn't seem to matter how often I clean the thing or how carefully I position my finger.

On 4/4/21, Jessica D <jldail13@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,

I’m not sure. It just didn’t say anything at that particular stage, so
I got sighted help, & got it setup.
It works amazingly well.

Thanks,
Jessica
On Apr 4, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@outlook.com> wrote:

Okay, a couple of things. I had been using a Surface Book with Face
ID for a couple of years. I had some trouble with it depending on sun
glasses, angle of the screen, etc. I recently got a computer with a
fingerprint reader and I like it much better. Something that helps
with both of them is to go into settings after the computer is scanned
up and do another setup of your finger or your face while using a better screen reader than narrator.


To the original poster, what was the problem with narrator and the
fingerprint reader. I have set up windows multiple times with a
fingerprint reader and it will always say to lift my finger and to place it back down.
Then it will tell me to move my finger around while lifting it and
placing it.







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: email clients

Thomas N. Chan
 

You must have did this specific search previously
Else, it will only search current view or mailbox.

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 01:01, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

Same here. This is with my Exchange business accounts, but I’m pretty sure it also applies with imap, but I haven’t had to conduct a search in my personal email in a while so…

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

For my business account I have about 10 main subfolders and in some cases these again have subfolders with subfolders and if I search from the main Inbox with Control + E it searches all of them.

I have, for example, a folder called "Suppliers" and that folder has at least 200 or 300 sub folders and some of these have again their own sub folders and it will search them all.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

By default, its only searching on the current mailbox, it will not search for sub folder or other. Unless your focus is else where.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 23:30, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Just press Control + E from your main Inbox, for me this searches all the folders I have.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi,

 

What if I do not know where the word or phrase is located?

 

In other words, how do I get outlook to check all places for my phrase or word?

 

Thank you,

 

James B 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: New computer fun

Jaffar Sidek
 

Forgot about the playlist files, sorry! 

On 14/4/2021 12:33 am, JM Casey wrote:

Hey.

 

Yes, the problem is that the winamp playlist file is a text file that points to the paths where the files used to be. It’s not the same anymore, since the drives have switched.

I’m not sure there is really an easy way to change this that doesn’t involve going in there with a text editor.

You might be better off just recreating the playlists, honestly. But if this is an intolerable task, you could try find and replace in Word or some similar programme, maybe. Problem is that, since winamp and the files you want to play were previously on the same drive, it probably wont’ even show the drive letter on the playlist. Go open the m3u file in notepad and you’ll see what I mean.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: April 12, 2021 10:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: New computer fun

 

Hello everyone.  I have made the change from Windows 7 to a brand new Windows 10 machine with lots of bells and  whisels.  I have transferred all of my files to the D drive, which before, they were in the C drive.  Now for the fun part.  How do I get my playlists to play in Winamp?  I am running the most recent JAWS update.  The music files and the play list .M3U files are together in the same folder thatt they were on my old computer.  The Winamp program, however is on the C drive.  Is this my problem?

I have lots of other questions like how to get my contacts into Outlook 2016 or Windows Mail, but that is another thread.  Thanks in advanced for any hents.

Love in Christ

Marty

The Gospel is freely accessible to all.


moderated Re: email clients

Cristóbal
 

Same here. This is with my Exchange business accounts, but I’m pretty sure it also applies with imap, but I haven’t had to conduct a search in my personal email in a while so…

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

For my business account I have about 10 main subfolders and in some cases these again have subfolders with subfolders and if I search from the main Inbox with Control + E it searches all of them.

I have, for example, a folder called "Suppliers" and that folder has at least 200 or 300 sub folders and some of these have again their own sub folders and it will search them all.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

By default, its only searching on the current mailbox, it will not search for sub folder or other. Unless your focus is else where.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 23:30, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Just press Control + E from your main Inbox, for me this searches all the folders I have.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi,

 

What if I do not know where the word or phrase is located?

 

In other words, how do I get outlook to check all places for my phrase or word?

 

Thank you,

 

James B 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: email clients

 

A search on Messages, at the very minimum, searches the folder in which you are focused plus ALL its child folders and their subfolders.  If memory serves, it will not search in the folder tree above where you are.  But if you're sitting at the inbox level everything else is either at that level (and gets searched) or below it.

I'm talking about the standard CTRL+E search.  You can exercise additional control in the advanced search, but I only use that once in several blue moons.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus - fixed I think

Cynthia Bruce
 

Great information, thanks so much.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: April 13, 2021 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus - fixed I think

 

Since we are talking a computer I usually recommend that doing a simple restart is your best option. Not only will that start Jaws fresh, but it will also clear any other stuff. When I was still using my old poit of sale software and also in Sage 50 Accounting I often have to go back and forth between using the newer GDI hooking method and the older method for Jaws to get information using the accessibility display driver and there are times when Jaws will just not read anything with the Jaws cursor where otherwise it should and just unloading and reloading Jaws won't work, but doing a restart will.In the case of a co

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus - fixed I think

 

Hi, Cynthia. I have had this happen numerous times, and you found the right solution.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus - fixed I think

 

OK, I tried unloading and loading JAWS, and that seems to have done the trick. It is strange though because I have never had this happen before.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: April 12, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus

 

Hi All,

 

To my knowledge, I did not do the most recent JAWS update. I was just working away on my Dell laptop, and all of a sudden, during the process of copying some files from my downloads folder, JAWS stopped reading my menus. It reads everything in Outlook, but no file names of folders in my documents or downloads. It isn’t reading anything on the task bar, and it doesn’t even read when I scroll through the window list when I hit shift F 10.

 

I am running JAWS 2021 and Windows 10. I haven’t shut down in case that does something I can’t undo.

 

Thanks so much,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: New computer fun

JM Casey
 

Hey.

 

Yes, the problem is that the winamp playlist file is a text file that points to the paths where the files used to be. It’s not the same anymore, since the drives have switched.

I’m not sure there is really an easy way to change this that doesn’t involve going in there with a text editor.

You might be better off just recreating the playlists, honestly. But if this is an intolerable task, you could try find and replace in Word or some similar programme, maybe. Problem is that, since winamp and the files you want to play were previously on the same drive, it probably wont’ even show the drive letter on the playlist. Go open the m3u file in notepad and you’ll see what I mean.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: April 12, 2021 10:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: New computer fun

 

Hello everyone.  I have made the change from Windows 7 to a brand new Windows 10 machine with lots of bells and  whisels.  I have transferred all of my files to the D drive, which before, they were in the C drive.  Now for the fun part.  How do I get my playlists to play in Winamp?  I am running the most recent JAWS update.  The music files and the play list .M3U files are together in the same folder thatt they were on my old computer.  The Winamp program, however is on the C drive.  Is this my problem?

I have lots of other questions like how to get my contacts into Outlook 2016 or Windows Mail, but that is another thread.  Thanks in advanced for any hents.

Love in Christ

Marty

The Gospel is freely accessible to all.


moderated Re: email clients

 

For my business account I have about 10 main subfolders and in some cases these again have subfolders with subfolders and if I search from the main Inbox with Control + E it searches all of them.

I have, for example, a folder called "Suppliers" and that folder has at least 200 or 300 sub folders and some of these have again their own sub folders and it will search them all.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

By default, its only searching on the current mailbox, it will not search for sub folder or other. Unless your focus is else where.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan

 

 

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 23:30, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Just press Control + E from your main Inbox, for me this searches all the folders I have.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi,

 

What if I do not know where the word or phrase is located?

 

In other words, how do I get outlook to check all places for my phrase or word?

 

Thank you,

 

James B 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Keystrokes for Developer toolbar in Office 365

Don Mauck
 

I’m cross posting hoping that I can see if this is a bug or if I’m doing something crazy.

I’m trying to create “Radio Buttons” from the developer toolbar in Word using Office 365.

I think I should be able to do that from the Developer toolbar, (alt+l). Then I should be able to press “n” to get into the Legacy Menu. I cannot get that keystroke to work. Not in JAWS2020 or the latest release of JAWS2021. Can someone please tell me if there’s a better way to create the “Radio buttons,” as I know it can be done.

 


moderated Re: email clients

Thomas N. Chan
 

By default, its only searching on the current mailbox, it will not search for sub folder or other. Unless your focus is else where.

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 23:30, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Just press Control + E from your main Inbox, for me this searches all the folders I have.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi,

 

What if I do not know where the word or phrase is located?

 

In other words, how do I get outlook to check all places for my phrase or word?

 

Thank you,

 

James B 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: email clients

 

Just press Control + E from your main Inbox, for me this searches all the folders I have.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi,

 

What if I do not know where the word or phrase is located?

 

In other words, how do I get outlook to check all places for my phrase or word?

 

Thank you,

 

James B 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus - fixed I think

 

Since we are talking a computer I usually recommend that doing a simple restart is your best option. Not only will that start Jaws fresh, but it will also clear any other stuff. When I was still using my old poit of sale software and also in Sage 50 Accounting I often have to go back and forth between using the newer GDI hooking method and the older method for Jaws to get information using the accessibility display driver and there are times when Jaws will just not read anything with the Jaws cursor where otherwise it should and just unloading and reloading Jaws won't work, but doing a restart will.In the case of a co

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus - fixed I think

 

Hi, Cynthia. I have had this happen numerous times, and you found the right solution.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus - fixed I think

 

OK, I tried unloading and loading JAWS, and that seems to have done the trick. It is strange though because I have never had this happen before.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: April 12, 2021 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus

 

Hi All,

 

To my knowledge, I did not do the most recent JAWS update. I was just working away on my Dell laptop, and all of a sudden, during the process of copying some files from my downloads folder, JAWS stopped reading my menus. It reads everything in Outlook, but no file names of folders in my documents or downloads. It isn’t reading anything on the task bar, and it doesn’t even read when I scroll through the window list when I hit shift F 10.

 

I am running JAWS 2021 and Windows 10. I haven’t shut down in case that does something I can’t undo.

 

Thanks so much,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus

 

Closing all your programs/apps and restarting your computer would be the first think to do, as most likely it will result in restoring normal behaviour.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 6:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Suddenly, JAWS isn't reading any of my menus

 

Hi All,

 

To my knowledge, I did not do the most recent JAWS update. I was just working away on my Dell laptop, and all of a sudden, during the process of copying some files from my downloads folder, JAWS stopped reading my menus. It reads everything in Outlook, but no file names of folders in my documents or downloads. It isn’t reading anything on the task bar, and it doesn’t even read when I scroll through the window list when I hit shift F 10.

 

I am running JAWS 2021 and Windows 10. I haven’t shut down in case that does something I can’t undo.

 

Thanks so much,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: create a system image.

 

One option, and there are others:  Using Macrium Reflect Free with a Screen Reader
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: New computer fun

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  Press L to load files.  You will land at the file name edit box.  Shift tab twice, then press backspace to get out of which ever folder you are at and until you are at the "This PC" window.  Then press the letter D to navigate to your D drive and press enter to get into your d drive.  Press whichever letter that first spells out your folder that contains your music, etc, for example, "M" for music.  Then navigate within your folder structure to get to the files and playlists you want.  Cheers!

On 13/4/2021 10:10 am, Randy Barnett wrote:

I don't  use WinAmp but you should look in settings for anything that is related to your music library or location and change it to the new location. Just poke around you will find it eventually.

On 4/12/2021 6:59 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote:

Hello everyone.  I have made the change from Windows 7 to a brand new Windows 10 machine with lots of bells and  whisels.  I have transferred all of my files to the D drive, which before, they were in the C drive.  Now for the fun part.  How do I get my playlists to play in Winamp?  I am running the most recent JAWS update.  The music files and the play list .M3U files are together in the same folder thatt they were on my old computer.  The Winamp program, however is on the C drive.  Is this my problem?

I have lots of other questions like how to get my contacts into Outlook 2016 or Windows Mail, but that is another thread.  Thanks in advanced for any hents.

Love in Christ

Marty

The Gospel is freely accessible to all.


moderated create a system image.

Justin Williams
 

I've got jaws 2019

Windows 10.

 

How do I create a system image?

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: Combo box behavior in Outlook 2019 advanced find dialog

Tony
 

Sometimes you can down arrow quickly.  The list will close but when you reopen it you will be on some entry in the list.  A few frustrating trials may get you where you want to go.

 

Tony



 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Combo box behavior in Outlook 2019 advanced find dialog

 

Bill,

 

I tried the spacebar on the combo box before posting and it does nothing. I tried a few different keystrokes on the box and alt + down arrow was what opened it has in other programs. The problem Is that you are unable to arrow through what’s in the box in order to select what you want.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Combo box behavior in Outlook 2019 advanced find dialog

 

Hi, Alan. Rather than using ALT plus Down Arrow to open the combo box, try just pressing SPACE on the closed combo box to open (expand) it.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 1:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Combo box behavior in Outlook 2019 advanced find dialog

 

Hi List,

 

I’m using Fusion 2020 and am learning a new Outlook 2019 on a new Windows 10 computer. I noted the advanced find keystroke of ctrl + shift + f buried in the Email Clients thread  that seems to have acquired  a life of its own. When you invoke the advance find dialog with the hotkey, you can press alt + k to move to the combo box where you can pick where you want to search.  If starting from the inbox as I usually am, you’ll by default be searching Messages which is preselected in the combo box. After pressing alt + k, I press alt + down arrow to move through the drop-down list that opens. This is where the behavior is unlike anything I’m used to on my Windows 7 computer. Instead of letting me arrow up and down the list and pressing enter to select the one I want, as soon as I press either up or down arrow, the list closes and whichever item was in the arrowed spot is selected. Is there another way to arrow up and down through a combo box list in Outlook 2019 you can share where I can be the one making the selection?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly


moderated Re: Combo box behavior in Outlook 2019 advanced find dialog

 

Bill,

 

I tried the spacebar on the combo box before posting and it does nothing. I tried a few different keystrokes on the box and alt + down arrow was what opened it has in other programs. The problem Is that you are unable to arrow through what’s in the box in order to select what you want.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Combo box behavior in Outlook 2019 advanced find dialog

 

Hi, Alan. Rather than using ALT plus Down Arrow to open the combo box, try just pressing SPACE on the closed combo box to open (expand) it.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 1:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Combo box behavior in Outlook 2019 advanced find dialog

 

Hi List,

 

I’m using Fusion 2020 and am learning a new Outlook 2019 on a new Windows 10 computer. I noted the advanced find keystroke of ctrl + shift + f buried in the Email Clients thread  that seems to have acquired  a life of its own. When you invoke the advance find dialog with the hotkey, you can press alt + k to move to the combo box where you can pick where you want to search.  If starting from the inbox as I usually am, you’ll by default be searching Messages which is preselected in the combo box. After pressing alt + k, I press alt + down arrow to move through the drop-down list that opens. This is where the behavior is unlike anything I’m used to on my Windows 7 computer. Instead of letting me arrow up and down the list and pressing enter to select the one I want, as soon as I press either up or down arrow, the list closes and whichever item was in the arrowed spot is selected. Is there another way to arrow up and down through a combo box list in Outlook 2019 you can share where I can be the one making the selection?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly


moderated Re: email clients

Marty Hutchings
 

                Sieghard,  I wasn't going to say anything here, but I must say "Well said" to you.  Now, I am going to Mute this topic.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Rick, maybe you can ask Brian for a tutorial on how to send a message directly to a list member rather than to the list in general, but then of course sometimes when this happens one really sees deeper into another person's personality and I must say your insults and petty attitude do not say much about yours.

. You keep going on about how you stand up for all us poor blind people who "need" Brian's help and we are just all afraid to fall in line behind your personal fude with Brian.

I unfortunately have to tell you that you apparently live in a fantasy world, not all of us are needy and put up with Brian's personality because we can't live without his technological expertise. Furthermore and I have pointed this out before, why don't you just ignore Brian's posts if they get you so riled up. Have you ever worked in a company with a number of employees? Have you ever been part of other organisations with a number of members who need to interact and get along with each other? I would assume the answer is no because if you had or were you would know that in almost any large group there will be people who clash because of their personality and if they can't see past their differences and learn to either tolerate or ignore each other, nothing good ever comes of it. The result then is exactly what is happening here, one person starts a smeer campaign against another, that person is joined by one or two others who also feel that way towards the other person but who normally may not act on that themselves and of course the other person may or may not stand up against all the insults and misinformation. In this case there is you, Randy and I believe somebody called Gerald who has voiced some support, then there is Brian and what seems to be a rather large majority of other list members who seem perfectly fine with him and who think your little vandetta is simply over the top.

I have a business and employee only 3 to 5 people but even there I had situations when I hired somebody who just would not get along because of some issue they had. In one case a part-time employee came to me and asked me to basically fire my store manager who has worked for me for 15 years, he is a nice guy and liked by just about all other employees I have had and, what is more, he is liked by a large majority of my customers. But he is not afraid to speak his mind and he doesn't put up with any BS. When I told her I could hardly do this she told me on the spot "well then I'll quit" and that was that, she left and all was back to normal.

I do hope Brian remains steadfast in his willingness to remain a member of this list, he left the Windows 10 group, but I would strongly encourage him to stick it out and from now on to simply ignore your jabs and insults, if you can't learn to tolerate or at least ignore his posts then I suggest that you leave along with all those who you say messaged you privately and start a new Jaws group, if you are the nmoderator you can then indulge your powers and kick anybody off your list if they say something you don't like, but spare the rest of us who simply want to discuss Jaws and who are either here to learn or to help.

Remember Matthew 7:5: Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

 

This will be my last comment regarding this.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

My appologies, that was to be direct but I made a mistake and sent direct through the list. I appologize and I’m not arguing against my thoughts towards him when one was attacked and now you all attack me for standing up for him as I would for any other blind person on this list he attacks. Again, my mistake putting this through the list and not direct to Randy.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Umm, who is the one calling names? 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 4:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Randy,

 

I’m writing to apologize for my losing my patience with that jerk Brian Vogel again. He attacks blind people and I’ve witnessed this on different groups and what is as disgusting is those who defend him because he is valuable to the group, as they say. He may know about JFW and being he is not blind is what I cannot excuse and stay quiet. He is sighted and attacks those as yourself, blind, because of asking a question or addressing his sighted comments towards some specific topic. He has attacked women who are blind on other groups and I went off on him and he left the group. I really do not know why he is such a follower of the blind but his disrespect is just what I must stand up and fight him and his ways as well as those that defend him just because they need him to continue to help their technological needs. I could go on about that idiot but I’ll go and just want to let you know I was defending you and his attack on you as he does to many on these groups. If we do not put an end to his personal attacks, then who will? I’m sorry if I over-stepped my boundries but just know I was on your side trying to get that jerk to shut up.

 

Always,

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 11:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

As always there are different points of view. But telling a blind person they are basiclly incompatent becuase something is written in a large bold box is not cool. I am surprised you think it is ok.

On 4/6/2021 8:34 AM, Don Walls wrote:

Rick, your message seems quite over-the-top.  I am blind and certainly am not offended by Brian’s comments.  As for Randy’s messages, they seem to follow a pattern of his persistent criticism of Brian and I can’t wonder that Brian is fed up with them.  Brian responds frequently to questions on this list and is generous with his time.  We are blind.  It doesn’t give us the mandate to trash others mindlessly with rants.

 

Don

 

From: Rick Mladek

Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:01 AM

Subject: Re: email clients

 

Brian,

 

It is an obvious pattern with you that you believe that just because you are sighted that you have the ability to talk down towards those who do not. For the administrator of this list, please shut this person up now for he has been this way on other lists/grops previously and has for the better, removed himself when those, as myself, step up and no longer will accept his rudeness, discriminative communication and outright condemnation towards those blind. Brian, do us a favor and go start your own list and again remove yourself from this. You again believe you are above those blind and I will not stand for this on this sight no more than I went up against you on the prevous site you removed yourself from. YOu have no ability to be cordial to those whom may not have as much knowledge towards a problem to have it corrected and although you may believe yourself superior, your the most ignorant individual most of us on these list groups have ever encountered. Remove yourself again and do us all a favor. I will not stand for you to be this way towards those in need and more, towards those blind seeking assistance. For the Administrator, I request this person be removed without further delay.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:43 AM, Randy Barnett wrote:

Once again you are totally wrong in your assumptions.

-
Randy, please stop your incessant preaching at me.  I have been around screen readers and screen reader users for well over a decade now.

I cannot help it if someone does not bother to vet the actual content of a page they post.  And my describing something in visual terms, as there are many here who did at one time have vision or still have some residual vision, cannot and should not be considered an insult to anyone who doesn't.

I don't give a damn about your opinions.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel

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