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moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Glenn / Lenny
 


I wonder if this drive has a switch.
I have a few external drive cases that are switched, and they won't connect if it isn't switched to the on position.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 02:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
It was mentioned in the first email that it is a "My Passport Ultra".
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Agreed.  But we have zero info on the make and model of machine being connected to, whether the drive actually works on another machine, etc.  I wasn't talking about the information for the drive itself, but the whole environment in which it's being expected to work.

You've already identified several potential issues that are not of the USB drive itself, but would be of the environnment.

I'm essentially on my (and not only my) soapbox that it really, really helps to have make and model information for the computer, operating system information, if a screen reader issue is suspected (which it isn't here) screen reader version information, etc.

Vague problem descriptions almost invariably lead to topics like this one where other participants are trying, often in vain, to tease out information never initially offered and where that information is not offered by the original poster even after requested.

An analogous situation was a private correspondence I had recently asking about captchas.  I responded that saying you were having a captcha problem is akin to saying you're having a webpage problem.   While there are not as many varieties of captchas as there are webpages, the general principle applies when there are many varieties of a given thing and you have not given any indication about the particular variety or instance.  It's almost impossible to answer any question about captchas without knowing, at the very least, the type of captcha involved.

One of my favorite quotations with regard to problems is this:

Most problems precisely defined are already partially solved.

         ~ Harry Lorayne, Memory Makes Money

And I'm well aware that it often takes work to get to that precise definition, and it may not be available at the outset.  But keeping this in mind really helps when you're about to ask a question, as the more information available about he problem the more likely a potential assistant has enough to give an answer.  It can take several cycles to complete the scenario, but having a few foundational bits to start with helps a lot.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 02:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
It was mentioned in the first email that it is a "My Passport Ultra".
-
Agreed.  But we have zero info on the make and model of machine being connected to, whether the drive actually works on another machine, etc.  I wasn't talking about the information for the drive itself, but the whole environment in which it's being expected to work.

You've already identified several potential issues that are not of the USB drive itself, but would be of the environnment.

I'm essentially on my (and not only my) soapbox that it really, really helps to have make and model information for the computer, operating system information, if a screen reader issue is suspected (which it isn't here) screen reader version information, etc.

Vague problem descriptions almost invariably lead to topics like this one where other participants are trying, often in vain, to tease out information never initially offered and where that information is not offered by the original poster even after requested.

An analogous situation was a private correspondence I had recently asking about captchas.  I responded that saying you were having a captcha problem is akin to saying you're having a webpage problem.   While there are not as many varieties of captchas as there are webpages, the general principle applies when there are many varieties of a given thing and you have not given any indication about the particular variety or instance.  It's almost impossible to answer any question about captchas without knowing, at the very least, the type of captcha involved.

One of my favorite quotations with regard to problems is this:

Most problems precisely defined are already partially solved.

         ~ Harry Lorayne, Memory Makes Money

And I'm well aware that it often takes work to get to that precise definition, and it may not be available at the outset.  But keeping this in mind really helps when you're about to ask a question, as the more information available about he problem the more likely a potential assistant has enough to give an answer.  It can take several cycles to complete the scenario, but having a few foundational bits to start with helps a lot.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

It was mentioned in the first email that it is a "My Passport Ultra". Since I keep up a bit on who makes what I knew that the My Passport line of hard drives is from Western DigitAl, but even doing a Google search for "My Passport Ultra external drive" immediately brings up the Western Digital page with all the specs.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 01:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Could you say a bit more which method you use to connect this?

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And in circumstances like this, it's really, really helpful to have "the full picture" about what make and model the device is being connected to.  I can't remember now whether this has already been mentioned, but if another computer is available it always makes sense to connect a misbehaving device to it just to see if the misbehavior persists, or if all is fine and dandy when using a different machine.

There are lots of potential trouble spots when external USB devices don't work.  I've even encountered the rare machine, and it is rare, where for some reason it persists in turning off USB when nothing's in use and it does not revive it automatically like it should when a new device is connected.  My partner's machine does this with the SD card port (which is a USB device) and no amount of "the usual trickery" has ever fixed it, and since we can just open device manager and hit the scan for new devices button the idea of a nuke and pave was ruled out early on.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

I thought it was clear I was talking about a drive that for what ever reason didn't get formatted correctly. This has happened to me twice. But if you just assume it is defective you would never know this. I did say if it doesn't show up under disk manager it is probly defective. Also how is giveing directions to a fairly easy procedure a bad thing? Oh well I was just ting to save him the hassle of getting it replaced if he didn't need too. The 2 drives I had to do this to are still working just fine. In my case it was just a software issue not a bad drive.



On 4/11/2021 10:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Randy, don't confuse people with complicated procedures which are not necessary. It is not difficult to Google the drive in question, My Passport Ultra which is made by Western Digital. If you do, one of the first things you read is this:

 

It’s Windows® 10-ready out of the box to seamlessly deliver plug-and-play storage, while password protection with hardware encryption helps enforce the security of your content.

 

In fact, I have never bought an external USB drive in the last 10 years or maybe longer which wasn't Plug and Play ready and certainly it did not require partitioning, formatting and all that stuff.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

Yes, This is disk manager That I memtioned. just typing that or disk manager in the windows search works also.

On 4/9/2021 5:16 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I'm a big fan of Windows Run commands. You can press the Windows key + r to open a run command window and type diskmgmt.msc in the text box and press enter to bring up a file explorer window with your connected disk drives listed. You can shift F10 on any drive listed to bring up a context menu where you can assign drive letters, etc.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

This is an outside shot, but I'm only suggesting this as something to check.

 

There's a setting that if turned on hides empty drives.

 

While in File Explorer press, Alt + F, then press the letter, O, to open Change folder and search options.

Control + tab to the View tab / page.

Tab a couple of times to the Advanced setting tree view.

Press the letter, H, 2 times I believe, to land on, Hide empty drives.  If Jaws reports this as, On , press the spacebar to turn it off.

Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

you need to open disk manager. then find your hard drive and see if it needs to have a Drive letter assign to it. but since It's not showing up  it probably needs to be formatted or initialized.

Randy Barnett


On Apr 9, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi all,

I just bought a My Passport Ultra hard disk, but I cannot see it I my laptop. I am using the latest JAWS version, if that has any relevance.

I hope this is not too off-topic, and I would appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Gezim


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 01:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Could you say a bit more which method you use to connect this?
-
And in circumstances like this, it's really, really helpful to have "the full picture" about what make and model the device is being connected to.  I can't remember now whether this has already been mentioned, but if another computer is available it always makes sense to connect a misbehaving device to it just to see if the misbehavior persists, or if all is fine and dandy when using a different machine.

There are lots of potential trouble spots when external USB devices don't work.  I've even encountered the rare machine, and it is rare, where for some reason it persists in turning off USB when nothing's in use and it does not revive it automatically like it should when a new device is connected.  My partner's machine does this with the SD card port (which is a USB device) and no amount of "the usual trickery" has ever fixed it, and since we can just open device manager and hit the scan for new devices button the idea of a nuke and pave was ruled out early on.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: email clients

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 01:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I find most of the time a simple search which you get with Control + E works for me.
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A second on that!   I love the advanced find on those occasions where I need to very carefully circumscribe what will come back in the results, but for simple keyword searches I use the same method you do.  (Both of these options, by the way and for others, have been "just like they are now" for as long as I can remember in Outlook, and that's quite a while.)
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

Hi Jezim,

 

Could you say a bit more which method you use to connect this? I looked up this drive and it says it is a USB-C drive which comes with a USB 3.1 adapter. I know people say this shoud be backwards compatible with USB 2.0 and all that, but I wonder if it requires more power than what a USB 2.0 port can deliver. Are you plugging it into a USB 3.1 port or do you use it straight ibn a USB-C port as it was intended for best performance?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

Placing my hand on the device, I could hear its vibration; but I did not hear the sound nor did I get the notification that the software was being installed.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: e shtunë, 10 prill 2021 15:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

When you connected the new external drive, did you hear the ascending two-tone indication, that a USB device had been connected, and also, did you get the notification, that the driver software for that device was being installed? and lastly, did you place your hand on the device, to see if you could feel the slight vibration of its motor or you heard its motor, that is, if it is a hard drive?

 

If you did not hear the ascending two-tone, after connecting the external device, then Windows did not recognize that such a device had been connected to the system, and it is highly likely, there is something wrong with the device, and you should return it for a replacement.

 

HTH

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gezim Rexha

Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 2:07 AM

Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

I just tried your recommendation. Three disks appeared on the list, but JAWS says that ‘change drive letters and paths’ is unavailable. Anyway, I am not sure that my Passport Ultra is one of those three.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: e shtunë, 10 prill 2021 02:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

I'm a big fan of Windows Run commands. You can press the Windows key + r to open a run command window and type diskmgmt.msc in the text box and press enter to bring up a file explorer window with your connected disk drives listed. You can shift F10 on any drive listed to bring up a context menu where you can assign drive letters, etc.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

This is an outside shot, but I'm only suggesting this as something to check.

 

There's a setting that if turned on hides empty drives.

 

While in File Explorer press, Alt + F, then press the letter, O, to open Change folder and search options.

Control + tab to the View tab / page.

Tab a couple of times to the Advanced setting tree view.

Press the letter, H, 2 times I believe, to land on, Hide empty drives.  If Jaws reports this as, On , press the spacebar to turn it off.

Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

you need to open disk manager. then find your hard drive and see if it needs to have a Drive letter assign to it. but since It's not showing up  it probably needs to be formatted or initialized.

Randy Barnett


On Apr 9, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi all,

I just bought a My Passport Ultra hard disk, but I cannot see it I my laptop. I am using the latest JAWS version, if that has any relevance.

I hope this is not too off-topic, and I would appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Gezim


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

Be careful, I think Richard is older than you Brian, don't call him a young whippersnapper 🤣

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I have not heard of a disk being sold without formatting since 3.5 inch diskettes

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You young whippersnapper!   What about 5.25" floppy diskettes?  What about 8" floppy diskettes!

[By the way, you still can get internal drives that are uninitiaized.  But that's a different kettle of fish than any removable media.]
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

Randy, don't confuse people with complicated procedures which are not necessary. It is not difficult to Google the drive in question, My Passport Ultra which is made by Western Digital. If you do, one of the first things you read is this:

 

It’s Windows® 10-ready out of the box to seamlessly deliver plug-and-play storage, while password protection with hardware encryption helps enforce the security of your content.

 

In fact, I have never bought an external USB drive in the last 10 years or maybe longer which wasn't Plug and Play ready and certainly it did not require partitioning, formatting and all that stuff.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

Yes, This is disk manager That I memtioned. just typing that or disk manager in the windows search works also.

On 4/9/2021 5:16 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I'm a big fan of Windows Run commands. You can press the Windows key + r to open a run command window and type diskmgmt.msc in the text box and press enter to bring up a file explorer window with your connected disk drives listed. You can shift F10 on any drive listed to bring up a context menu where you can assign drive letters, etc.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

This is an outside shot, but I'm only suggesting this as something to check.

 

There's a setting that if turned on hides empty drives.

 

While in File Explorer press, Alt + F, then press the letter, O, to open Change folder and search options.

Control + tab to the View tab / page.

Tab a couple of times to the Advanced setting tree view.

Press the letter, H, 2 times I believe, to land on, Hide empty drives.  If Jaws reports this as, On , press the spacebar to turn it off.

Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

you need to open disk manager. then find your hard drive and see if it needs to have a Drive letter assign to it. but since It's not showing up  it probably needs to be formatted or initialized.

Randy Barnett


On Apr 9, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi all,

I just bought a My Passport Ultra hard disk, but I cannot see it I my laptop. I am using the latest JAWS version, if that has any relevance.

I hope this is not too off-topic, and I would appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Gezim


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

I would call Microsoft Accessibility. If you don't want to do this I suggest  you explain step by step what you do to look for it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 6:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

That setting was turned on, and I rutned it off according to your instructions;however, I still cannot find my hard disk. Any other recommendations?

 

Thanks in advance,

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: e shtunë, 10 prill 2021 01:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

This is an outside shot, but I'm only suggesting this as something to check.

 

There's a setting that if turned on hides empty drives.

 

While in File Explorer press, Alt + F, then press the letter, O, to open Change folder and search options.

Control + tab to the View tab / page.

Tab a couple of times to the Advanced setting tree view.

Press the letter, H, 2 times I believe, to land on, Hide empty drives.  If Jaws reports this as, On , press the spacebar to turn it off.

Now tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

 

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

you need to open disk manager. then find your hard drive and see if it needs to have a Drive letter assign to it. but since It's not showing up  it probably needs to be formatted or initialized.

Randy Barnett


On Apr 9, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi all,

I just bought a My Passport Ultra hard disk, but I cannot see it I my laptop. I am using the latest JAWS version, if that has any relevance.

I hope this is not too off-topic, and I would appreciate your help.

Cheers,

Gezim


moderated Re: email clients

 

Control + Shift + F gets you the Advanced Find dialgue, I find most of the time a simple search which you get with Control + E works for me. If I am in my main Inbox and press Control + E and then search for any search term it looks in all the folders I have, if I want to limit the search to a particular folder I just go to that folder first, then press Control + E and type in my word or search term followed by pressing enter.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 6:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Need to use Narrator to get and install JAWS 2021 on a new install of Windows 10

 

It would be much easier if you download the Jaws installer to a USB stick and the n simply use Narrator to copy it to your desktop after Windows is reinstalled. I find this much easier than to try and browse the FreedomScientific.com site to try and download it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need to use Narrator to get and install JAWS 2021 on a new install of Windows 10

 

Hi.

 

I’m having a 2 TB SSD replacing my shrimpy 512 GB SSD in my laptop. I plan on using Narrator to do this. I’m also planning on using Edge to get the installer for JAWS. With all this in mind, I have a couple of questions.

 

I know the steps to get Edge up and running, as well as get to where JAWS is located, but I know how to do this in JAWS. Will there be any differences in Narrator?

 

That’s what I need to know. I’ll have some work installing software, but I did that about 2 months ago after Windows turned in to a black hole and sent everything on my drive, including itself into the great void of nothing.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

Look, take it how you want. All i am saying is sometimes they just need to be formatted. Why go through the hassle of a return when all it takes is a couple of minutes to take care of it? I take the extra couple of minutes to  fix it and have a working drive. some people just give up. No reason to get upset over it.

On 4/10/2021 6:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 09:06 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
I am sure the number of drives you have experience with is a tiny fraction of a percentage of the drives produced.
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Randy, that matters not one bit.  If you buy a drive that is supposed to be ready, out of the box, if it isn't you return it.

You will argue with anything I say, even when it agrees with what you've said.  

If this drive came unformatted, it is defective, no matter WHY it's unformatted, even if it could be formatted by the end user.  Period, end of sentence.  Send it back.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Robert  I want to said  Thank you so much for your helps  and I did able to press letter B for buttons  til I hear unmute button  on church service facebook live this morning .

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Cole via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

 

Pressing the letter B is quicker than tabbing.

 



On Apr 10, 2021, at 7:14 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

 

Hi Robert  Do I have to press tab key til I hear unmute  buttons  or press letter b for button ?

Addison 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Cole via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

 

Hi,

Can you navigate by buttons until  you get to the unmute button?

 




On Apr 10, 2021, at 3:59 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

 

Hi All  I have jaws2020 and laptop  windows10 ,When I’m on chrome with www.facebook.com  and go on notification page  when I arrow down through the list  then when I get to my funeral home was on facebook live  with graveside or funeral service  for whomever  when I press enter on Gethers Funeral home is on facebook live  or any church facebook live  now the live is not playing  so I called microsoft disability support this morning  to ask them to get me on live  then I explained to the support  that my sister had told me on Sunday morning when I press enter on 7th district ame church is on facebook live  it wasn’t playing the live  so my sister told me its on is playing but she doesn’t hear it so she said the mute on volume  she had to unmute off the volume for the live to plays !! The man support told me this morning Gethers funeral home facebook live was mute on volume  so he unmute off the volume  for the live to play so I asked him how can I unmute off the volume  on laptop when I press enter on any facebook live when I press enter from notification page  ? He didn’t tell me anything to how to do it. Does anyone know how to unmute off the volume on facebook live  on laptop computer ?

Addison 

 

 


moderated Re: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

JM Casey
 

Hey Debbie.

Thanks for those ideas. I will try them, though I think I already have the cursor set to not blink (I don’t have it on my desk now to check because it got so bad yesterday).

Unfortunately the Baum Brailliant has had power-related issues since I got it used in 2019 and they only seem to have gotten worse over time. I have other used displays but they all have their own problems. That’s life sometimes I guess. Can’t be withouta  braille display…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: April 11, 2021 09:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

 

Hi,

 

Generally, I think you are out of luck. But I wonder if playing with the cursor options under braille will make any difference. The one I was thinking of was “braille cursor follow active cursor.” However, I am afraid, the display will just sit there like a lump.

 

The other thought I have is that if the display is using a blinking cursor, turn that off. I don’t know, it might keep whatever short is occurring to happen less often.

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 7:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

 

Hey everyone. I’m using JAWS 2018 and an old Baum Brailliant 80 braille display. Something seems to have gone wrong with said display, possibly a short of some kind, which is causing cursor routing to activate spontaneously and randomly. This is obviously a huge pain and causing a great amount of frustration, but as braille is my preferred output, I’d like to continue using the display. Is there any way to simply turn off cursor routing? I know it’s a function of the display, but JAWS must be the medium between the display and windows. I looked around in braille settings and can’t find anything.

Anyone know?

 


moderated Re: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

Debby Hill
 

Hi,

 

Generally, I think you are out of luck. But I wonder if playing with the cursor options under braille will make any difference. The one I was thinking of was “braille cursor follow active cursor.” However, I am afraid, the display will just sit there like a lump.

 

The other thought I have is that if the display is using a blinking cursor, turn that off. I don’t know, it might keep whatever short is occurring to happen less often.

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 7:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

 

Hey everyone. I’m using JAWS 2018 and an old Baum Brailliant 80 braille display. Something seems to have gone wrong with said display, possibly a short of some kind, which is causing cursor routing to activate spontaneously and randomly. This is obviously a huge pain and causing a great amount of frustration, but as braille is my preferred output, I’d like to continue using the display. Is there any way to simply turn off cursor routing? I know it’s a function of the display, but JAWS must be the medium between the display and windows. I looked around in braille settings and can’t find anything.

Anyone know?

 


moderated Re: email clients

Debby Hill
 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Dropbox

Mike B.
 

Mona,
 
Let me explain a little better.
1. Press, Windows key + B, to go to the Notification Chevron Area.
 
2. Down arrow to the Dropbox icon and press enter.
 
3. Up arrow to, Preferences..., and press enter.
 
4. You should now be on the, General tab, so tab several times, 6 I believe, to the, Open folders in, setting/ combobox.  In this combobox you have 2 choices, File Explorer and Dropbox desktop app.
Up arrow / down arrow to, File Explorer, and press enter and tab to, Okay, press enter to save / close.  Sometimes this setting doesn't take on the 1st or 2nd try, so if you have to change this again don't be surprised.
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Dropbox

Hi Mona,
 
In preferences on the General tab you want to change the,  Open with, setting to File Explorer.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: mona
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:57 PM
Subject: Dropbox

I hopefully can explain what I need.  Supposedly there is a desktop view and a webview.  Somehow, I’ve been struggling with the webview and people are telline me to change to desktop view.  How do I do this?

 

Thanks.

 

Mona

 

 


moderated Re: Dropbox

Mike B.
 

Hi Mona,
 
In preferences on the General tab you want to change the,  Open with, setting to File Explorer.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: mona
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:57 PM
Subject: Dropbox

I hopefully can explain what I need.  Supposedly there is a desktop view and a webview.  Somehow, I’ve been struggling with the webview and people are telline me to change to desktop view.  How do I do this?

 

Thanks.

 

Mona

 

 


moderated Dropbox

mona
 

I hopefully can explain what I need.  Supposedly there is a desktop view and a webview.  Somehow, I’ve been struggling with the webview and people are telline me to change to desktop view.  How do I do this?

 

Thanks.

 

Mona

 

 

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