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moderated Re: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

JM Casey
 

Hey Debbie.

Thanks for those ideas. I will try them, though I think I already have the cursor set to not blink (I don’t have it on my desk now to check because it got so bad yesterday).

Unfortunately the Baum Brailliant has had power-related issues since I got it used in 2019 and they only seem to have gotten worse over time. I have other used displays but they all have their own problems. That’s life sometimes I guess. Can’t be withouta  braille display…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: April 11, 2021 09:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

 

Hi,

 

Generally, I think you are out of luck. But I wonder if playing with the cursor options under braille will make any difference. The one I was thinking of was “braille cursor follow active cursor.” However, I am afraid, the display will just sit there like a lump.

 

The other thought I have is that if the display is using a blinking cursor, turn that off. I don’t know, it might keep whatever short is occurring to happen less often.

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 7:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

 

Hey everyone. I’m using JAWS 2018 and an old Baum Brailliant 80 braille display. Something seems to have gone wrong with said display, possibly a short of some kind, which is causing cursor routing to activate spontaneously and randomly. This is obviously a huge pain and causing a great amount of frustration, but as braille is my preferred output, I’d like to continue using the display. Is there any way to simply turn off cursor routing? I know it’s a function of the display, but JAWS must be the medium between the display and windows. I looked around in braille settings and can’t find anything.

Anyone know?

 


moderated Re: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

Debby Hill
 

Hi,

 

Generally, I think you are out of luck. But I wonder if playing with the cursor options under braille will make any difference. The one I was thinking of was “braille cursor follow active cursor.” However, I am afraid, the display will just sit there like a lump.

 

The other thought I have is that if the display is using a blinking cursor, turn that off. I don’t know, it might keep whatever short is occurring to happen less often.

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 7:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

 

Hey everyone. I’m using JAWS 2018 and an old Baum Brailliant 80 braille display. Something seems to have gone wrong with said display, possibly a short of some kind, which is causing cursor routing to activate spontaneously and randomly. This is obviously a huge pain and causing a great amount of frustration, but as braille is my preferred output, I’d like to continue using the display. Is there any way to simply turn off cursor routing? I know it’s a function of the display, but JAWS must be the medium between the display and windows. I looked around in braille settings and can’t find anything.

Anyone know?

 


moderated Re: email clients

Debby Hill
 

Hi James,

 

If you are using MS365, then I am assuming the email client is Outlook. To do a find press Control + Shift + F. You will land in a field in which you can type a search term. If that is what you are searching for type the term. Then tab and you will be in a combo box where you can choose the search term to be either located in just the subject or in

both the subject and body of the emails.

 

If you are looking for email that was sent from or sent to someone, tab passed these fields and you will find fields in which to enter either the from or to names.

 

After you have entered the search terms you want press enter. When the search is complete you will get the  message “find now.” Once you get that message press F6 and you will be in the list of messages it found.

 

I hope that helps!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Dropbox

Mike B.
 

Mona,
 
Let me explain a little better.
1. Press, Windows key + B, to go to the Notification Chevron Area.
 
2. Down arrow to the Dropbox icon and press enter.
 
3. Up arrow to, Preferences..., and press enter.
 
4. You should now be on the, General tab, so tab several times, 6 I believe, to the, Open folders in, setting/ combobox.  In this combobox you have 2 choices, File Explorer and Dropbox desktop app.
Up arrow / down arrow to, File Explorer, and press enter and tab to, Okay, press enter to save / close.  Sometimes this setting doesn't take on the 1st or 2nd try, so if you have to change this again don't be surprised.
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Dropbox

Hi Mona,
 
In preferences on the General tab you want to change the,  Open with, setting to File Explorer.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: mona
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:57 PM
Subject: Dropbox

I hopefully can explain what I need.  Supposedly there is a desktop view and a webview.  Somehow, I’ve been struggling with the webview and people are telline me to change to desktop view.  How do I do this?

 

Thanks.

 

Mona

 

 


moderated Re: Dropbox

Mike B.
 

Hi Mona,
 
In preferences on the General tab you want to change the,  Open with, setting to File Explorer.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: mona
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:57 PM
Subject: Dropbox

I hopefully can explain what I need.  Supposedly there is a desktop view and a webview.  Somehow, I’ve been struggling with the webview and people are telline me to change to desktop view.  How do I do this?

 

Thanks.

 

Mona

 

 


moderated Dropbox

mona
 

I hopefully can explain what I need.  Supposedly there is a desktop view and a webview.  Somehow, I’ve been struggling with the webview and people are telline me to change to desktop view.  How do I do this?

 

Thanks.

 

Mona

 

 


moderated Re: email clients

James Bentley
 

Hi Brian and list,

 

First, let me apologize for being so far behind on reading emails.

 

Back when I was using Windows Live Mail.  I could search for a particular word in any folder or subfolder by going through the menus/ribbons without any problems.

 

Now, after using MS365 for around 15 months now, I still can’t figure out how to use the search feature.

 

I could come up with around 5 or 6 additional problems that I have with MS365 but I don’t want to give myself a headache thinking about them.

 

I use MS365 because  it is better for me than any thing else that I have tried.  Including Windows mail and Thunderbird and the web mail that Gmail and A T and T offer.

 

So, I’m not saying that it isn’t the best thing going, but, at least for me, I still can’t do some very basic things like search folders for a certain word or phrase. 

 

For example, the hot key like Control, Shift, A goes in to advanced search.  That works fine for me.  But following the prompts/understanding the menus from that point to find what Iam looking for just isn’t working for me.  I’ve run in to dead ends with other things that were very easy with WLM.

 

Regards,

 

James B 

 

From : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email clients

 

James & Alan,

          I'm curious to hear some specific examples from you.  I absolutely will not deny the seemingly endless stream of new bells and whistles from Microsoft and others, but with the sole exception of the introduction of the ribbon interface (and even then, only for a subset of commands), I haven't encountered many keyboard shortcuts change at all.  The "old standards" have been the same quite literally for as long as I can remember, and the Windows commands that form the core of many programs (e.g., Save, Save As, the navigation dialog for both, Open, etc.) have been, too.

           There is very seldom, in my experience, any shakeup in existing shortcuts secondary to new additions to the UI, whatever those additions may be.  Note well I said seldom, not absolutely never.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Glenn / Lenny
 


I really haven't been following this thread, but things are slow, so I saw this one.
I'll add that I read where magnetic tapes are still strong, and it is incredible how much they can back up.
They might be sort of slow for file retrieval, but they put SSD drives to shame in terms of amount of storage.
They are quite expensive though.
That is the newer ones that store a lot of data.
In the 90s and post 2K, I would chuckle at the old star trek shows of the future when they mentioned the computer tapes, but now I see that is not so silly.
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Brian said: What about 5.25" floppy diskettes?
  

I figured I didn't need to mention them because they are older than the 3.5 diskettes.
So much for young ...

Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt



On Apr 10, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I have not heard of a disk being sold without formatting since 3.5 inch diskettes
-
You young whippersnapper!   What about 5.25" floppy diskettes?  What about 8" floppy diskettes!

[By the way, you still can get internal drives that are uninitiaized.  But that's a different kettle of fish than any removable media.]
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Richard Turner
 

Brian said: What about 5.25" floppy diskettes?
  

I figured I didn't need to mention them because they are older than the 3.5 diskettes.
So much for young ...

Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 10, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I have not heard of a disk being sold without formatting since 3.5 inch diskettes
-
You young whippersnapper!   What about 5.25" floppy diskettes?  What about 8" floppy diskettes!

[By the way, you still can get internal drives that are uninitiaized.  But that's a different kettle of fish than any removable media.]
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I have not heard of a disk being sold without formatting since 3.5 inch diskettes
-
You young whippersnapper!   What about 5.25" floppy diskettes?  What about 8" floppy diskettes!

[By the way, you still can get internal drives that are uninitiaized.  But that's a different kettle of fish than any removable media.]
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Richard Turner
 

 ,I have not heard of a disk being sold without formatting since 3.5 inch diskettes, which is dating me no doubt. 
I certainly have never heard of an external hard drive being sold unformatted.
Most definitely defective.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Apr 10, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 09:06 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
I am sure the number of drives you have experience with is a tiny fraction of a percentage of the drives produced.
-
Randy, that matters not one bit.  If you buy a drive that is supposed to be ready, out of the box, if it isn't you return it.

You will argue with anything I say, even when it agrees with what you've said.  

If this drive came unformatted, it is defective, no matter WHY it's unformatted, even if it could be formatted by the end user.  Period, end of sentence.  Send it back.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

 

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 09:06 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
I am sure the number of drives you have experience with is a tiny fraction of a percentage of the drives produced.
-
Randy, that matters not one bit.  If you buy a drive that is supposed to be ready, out of the box, if it isn't you return it.

You will argue with anything I say, even when it agrees with what you've said.  

If this drive came unformatted, it is defective, no matter WHY it's unformatted, even if it could be formatted by the end user.  Period, end of sentence.  Send it back.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

Robert Cole
 

Pressing the letter B is quicker than tabbing.


On Apr 10, 2021, at 7:14 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

Hi Robert  Do I have to press tab key til I hear unmute  buttons  or press letter b for button ?
Addison 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Cole via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?
 
Hi,
Can you navigate by buttons until  you get to the unmute button?
 


On Apr 10, 2021, at 3:59 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:
 
Hi All  I have jaws2020 and laptop  windows10 ,When I’m on chrome with www.facebook.com  and go on notification page  when I arrow down through the list  then when I get to my funeral home was on facebook live  with graveside or funeral service  for whomever  when I press enter on Gethers Funeral home is on facebook live  or any church facebook live  now the live is not playing  so I called microsoft disability support this morning  to ask them to get me on live  then I explained to the support  that my sister had told me on Sunday morning when I press enter on 7th district ame church is on facebook live  it wasn’t playing the live  so my sister told me its on is playing but she doesn’t hear it so she said the mute on volume  she had to unmute off the volume for the live to plays !! The man support told me this morning Gethers funeral home facebook live was mute on volume  so he unmute off the volume  for the live to play so I asked him how can I unmute off the volume  on laptop when I press enter on any facebook live when I press enter from notification page  ? He didn’t tell me anything to how to do it. Does anyone know how to unmute off the volume on facebook live  on laptop computer ?
Addison 
 



moderated Re: Cannot find my new external hard disk

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

it still happens. Hundreds of thousands of these things come off the automated simply lines every year and they don't all get formatted and initialize correctly so from time to time you do get one that you have to format or initialize. I am sure the number of drives you have experience with is a tiny fraction of a percentage of the drives produced.

Randy Barnett

On Apr 10, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 01:36 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
The other problem may be a defective disk.
-
Which is the far more likely scenario.   I have not seen an external USB backup drive that does not come formatted and ready to go at plug-in for longer than I can remember now.

I'd be returning it for replacement since it is misbehaving out of the box.  And I've dealt with a lot of WD Passport series drives.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi Robert  Do I have to press tab key til I hear unmute  buttons  or press letter b for button ?

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Cole via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

 

Hi,

Can you navigate by buttons until  you get to the unmute button?

 



On Apr 10, 2021, at 3:59 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

 

Hi All  I have jaws2020 and laptop  windows10 ,When I’m on chrome with www.facebook.com  and go on notification page  when I arrow down through the list  then when I get to my funeral home was on facebook live  with graveside or funeral service  for whomever  when I press enter on Gethers Funeral home is on facebook live  or any church facebook live  now the live is not playing  so I called microsoft disability support this morning  to ask them to get me on live  then I explained to the support  that my sister had told me on Sunday morning when I press enter on 7th district ame church is on facebook live  it wasn’t playing the live  so my sister told me its on is playing but she doesn’t hear it so she said the mute on volume  she had to unmute off the volume for the live to plays !! The man support told me this morning Gethers funeral home facebook live was mute on volume  so he unmute off the volume  for the live to play so I asked him how can I unmute off the volume  on laptop when I press enter on any facebook live when I press enter from notification page  ? He didn’t tell me anything to how to do it. Does anyone know how to unmute off the volume on facebook live  on laptop computer ?

Addison 

 


moderated ANy way to turn off cursor routing funcationality?

JM Casey
 

Hey everyone. I’m using JAWS 2018 and an old Baum Brailliant 80 braille display. Something seems to have gone wrong with said display, possibly a short of some kind, which is causing cursor routing to activate spontaneously and randomly. This is obviously a huge pain and causing a great amount of frustration, but as braille is my preferred output, I’d like to continue using the display. Is there any way to simply turn off cursor routing? I know it’s a function of the display, but JAWS must be the medium between the display and windows. I looked around in braille settings and can’t find anything.

Anyone know?

 


moderated Re: How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

Robert Cole
 

Hi,
Can you navigate by buttons until  you get to the unmute button?


On Apr 10, 2021, at 3:59 PM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

Hi All  I have jaws2020 and laptop  windows10 ,When I’m on chrome with www.facebook.com  and go on notification page  when I arrow down through the list  then when I get to my funeral home was on facebook live  with graveside or funeral service  for whomever  when I press enter on Gethers Funeral home is on facebook live  or any church facebook live  now the live is not playing  so I called microsoft disability support this morning  to ask them to get me on live  then I explained to the support  that my sister had told me on Sunday morning when I press enter on 7th district ame church is on facebook live  it wasn’t playing the live  so my sister told me its on is playing but she doesn’t hear it so she said the mute on volume  she had to unmute off the volume for the live to plays !! The man support told me this morning Gethers funeral home facebook live was mute on volume  so he unmute off the volume  for the live to play so I asked him how can I unmute off the volume  on laptop when I press enter on any facebook live when I press enter from notification page  ? He didn’t tell me anything to how to do it. Does anyone know how to unmute off the volume on facebook live  on laptop computer ?
Addison 


moderated Re: Computer volume level keeps changing no matter what level that I set it too.

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Hello,
I personally have never experienced this issue, however if the commands in JAWS 2021 to adjust volume work consistently for you, then it should not be too difficult to add a JAWS scripting command to force the volume when the screen reader is started.


moderated How to unmute off volume on facebook live ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  I have jaws2020 and laptop  windows10 ,When I’m on chrome with www.facebook.com  and go on notification page  when I arrow down through the list  then when I get to my funeral home was on facebook live  with graveside or funeral service  for whomever  when I press enter on Gethers Funeral home is on facebook live  or any church facebook live  now the live is not playing  so I called microsoft disability support this morning  to ask them to get me on live  then I explained to the support  that my sister had told me on Sunday morning when I press enter on 7th district ame church is on facebook live  it wasn’t playing the live  so my sister told me its on is playing but she doesn’t hear it so she said the mute on volume  she had to unmute off the volume for the live to plays !! The man support told me this morning Gethers funeral home facebook live was mute on volume  so he unmute off the volume  for the live to play so I asked him how can I unmute off the volume  on laptop when I press enter on any facebook live when I press enter from notification page  ? He didn’t tell me anything to how to do it. Does anyone know how to unmute off the volume on facebook live  on laptop computer ?

Addison


moderated Computer volume level keeps changing no matter what level that I set it too.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good afternoon everyone. 

 

It seems that whenever I set my computers volume level to the one that I want,  It will either go up or down no matter what level that I set it too.  For example, if I set the level at 30 percent,  when I close it out, it will either jump too 65, or 20 percent.  In other words, it fluctuates.  Is their anyway that I can correct this behavior? 

 

Thanks for any help and suggestions that anyone can offer,

 

Al     

 

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