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Re: jaws resolution

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

No, that's a rule of thumb. LCD monitor default to their highest
resolution, and it usually works great. It would be nice if it could be
altered on an app-by-app basis. We once used a program like that here,
but alteration on the OS level would be really handy.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: jaws resolution

Ted, are you referring specifically to Windows 7? Dorothy apparently
knows
what you say here with regard to XP. I'm still using XP and can't answer
her
question myself.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: jaws resolution

If you're using LCD, these units default to their maximum resolution.
Most today are high, or at least advanced, definition, with many maxing
out in the neighborhood of 1080X1920. Manufacturers usually recommend
leaving them alone, although changes can be easily implemented through
Control Panel.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: jaws resolution


Dear list can you explain if when using Jaws 12 or 11 and windows 7 and
ms
outlook what importance is the resolution, I know it matters in xp, but
I
get the impression it is not of great importance in windows 7 . The
resolution of the screen is not the same is it? I think some have a
fixed
resolution, thanks Dorothy


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Re: [Bulk] jaws resolution

Adrian Spratt
 

I see I wasn't clear, though I was just trying to gain clarity for Dorothy.
I know about XP screen resolution settings, as does she. Her question is
specifically about Windows 7.

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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: jaws resolution

Adrian,

Not Ted, but it's been my practice to never stray away from 1024x768 32
million colors. In the old days of JAWS 4,5,6 or so, there was a limitation
to what resolution JAWS could handle. However in later versions this seems
to have either gone away or not been as important.

Having said that, if you call FS Tech Support, 95% or so of their phone
supporters will tell you that for Windows XP to set to 1024x768 32M and a
few other display settings, as well.

For Windows 7, I cannot say, but may be forced to later.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:28
Subject: [Bulk] RE: jaws resolution


Ted, are you referring specifically to Windows 7? Dorothy apparently knows
what you say here with regard to XP. I'm still using XP and can't answer her
question myself.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: jaws resolution

If you're using LCD, these units default to their maximum resolution.
Most today are high, or at least advanced, definition, with many maxing
out in the neighborhood of 1080X1920. Manufacturers usually recommend
leaving them alone, although changes can be easily implemented through
Control Panel.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: jaws resolution


Dear list can you explain if when using Jaws 12 or 11 and windows 7 and
ms
outlook what importance is the resolution, I know it matters in xp, but
I
get the impression it is not of great importance in windows 7 . The
resolution of the screen is not the same is it? I think some have a
fixed
resolution, thanks Dorothy


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Re: jaws resolution

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Lcd? Sorry ted have forgotten meaning I think in xp you can set a
resolution and bit level and are often advised the level but I think I was
told windows 7 it is not important, however I shall be speaking to the
person tomorrow and will ask him I think he will know ththanks ted and
Adrian dorothy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: 20 July 2011 19:05
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: jaws resolution

If you're using LCD, these units default to their maximum resolution.
Most today are high, or at least advanced, definition, with many maxing
out in the neighborhood of 1080X1920. Manufacturers usually recommend
leaving them alone, although changes can be easily implemented through
Control Panel.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: jaws resolution


Dear list can you explain if when using Jaws 12 or 11 and windows 7 and
ms
outlook what importance is the resolution, I know it matters in xp, but
I
get the impression it is not of great importance in windows 7 . The
resolution of the screen is not the same is it? I think some have a
fixed
resolution, thanks Dorothy


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Re: [Bulk] jaws resolution

Dave...
 

Adrian,

Not Ted, but it's been my practice to never stray away from 1024x768 32
million colors. In the old days of JAWS 4,5,6 or so, there was a limitation
to what resolution JAWS could handle. However in later versions this seems
to have either gone away or not been as important.

Having said that, if you call FS Tech Support, 95% or so of their phone
supporters will tell you that for Windows XP to set to 1024x768 32M and a
few other display settings, as well.

For Windows 7, I cannot say, but may be forced to later.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:28
Subject: [Bulk] RE: jaws resolution


Ted, are you referring specifically to Windows 7? Dorothy apparently knows
what you say here with regard to XP. I'm still using XP and can't answer her
question myself.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: jaws resolution

If you're using LCD, these units default to their maximum resolution.
Most today are high, or at least advanced, definition, with many maxing
out in the neighborhood of 1080X1920. Manufacturers usually recommend
leaving them alone, although changes can be easily implemented through
Control Panel.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: jaws resolution


Dear list can you explain if when using Jaws 12 or 11 and windows 7 and
ms
outlook what importance is the resolution, I know it matters in xp, but
I
get the impression it is not of great importance in windows 7 . The
resolution of the screen is not the same is it? I think some have a
fixed
resolution, thanks Dorothy


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Re: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express

Tom Behler
 

Adrian and all:

I seem to be having trouble accessing links in all e-mails, not just some.

I'm sorry if I was not clear on that initially.

P.S. I'm currently traveling, and don't have consistent access to e-mail.
So if my e-mail responses are sporadic, please don't interpret this as a
lack of interest or appreciation to all who are trying to help me with this
issue.

Tom Behler

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express


No. I'm only speaking for Mike because I'm thinking along a parallel line.
Put it this way. Are you having problems accessing links in all your email
messages, or just some? If some, Mike's suggestion would point to one
explanation, which is that you're getting some messages produced in text
format. For my part, I'm wondering if the problem links are or are not
announced by JAWS as links.

I'm guessing the answer doesn't lie here because you began by saying links
used to work. So just covering all possibilities that come to mind.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of tom behler
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express

Mike:

I already have the "read messages in plain text" box un-checked. Are you
saying I need to look at something else to be sure it is set correctly?

Tom Behler

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express


Hi Tom,

1 other thought. If you are getting messages in plain text, having HTML
checked in the Read tab of Toolls / Options won't change the format in which
you receive them. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: tom behler
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express


Adrian:

I tried your suggestion, but still no luck.

I am wondering if some setting in Outlook Express is incorrect, but can't
figure out what that might be.

Will keep trying here, and I appreciate everyone's tolerance of this
thread.

Hopefully, others who may be having the same problem will benefit from
whatever solutions arise.

Tom Behler

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express


Hi, Tom.

In addition to the suggestions Mike passed along, I find with Outlook (I
realize you're using OE) that moving the focus to the right of the "h" in
an http" link enables my XP system to click the link. Until a friend made
the suggestion off-list, I'd been unable to make email links work in
Outlook. Maybe it will also work in OE now.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of tom behler
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:42 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express

Hello, everyone.

I am not sure if this is a Jaws issue, or something else, so I hope this
won't be considered to be too "off topic" for the list.

I currently use Outlook Express as my e-mail program on this Windows XP
laptop.

I used to be able to directly access embedded links in an e-mail, but seem
to have lost that capability recently.

I have gone into the Options under Outlook Express, and made sure the box
that says "read only in plain text" was un-checked.

This has not solved my problem.

Can anyone else tell me what to try either in Outlook Express, or maybe
even

in Jaws to get embedded links to work again?

Thanks very much.

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Re: FireFox 5?

Marie Lyons <mlyons53@...>
 

Every time I use this version with the latest version of JAWS, 12.01167, or
something like that it crashes. That is Firefox crashes. It doesn't seem
to matter what web site. It's crashed when I was on the Mozilla site. Is
anyone else having this problem? Is there a fix, other than uninstalling?

Marie


Re: jaws resolution

Adrian Spratt
 

Ted, are you referring specifically to Windows 7? Dorothy apparently knows
what you say here with regard to XP. I'm still using XP and can't answer her
question myself.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: jaws resolution

If you're using LCD, these units default to their maximum resolution.
Most today are high, or at least advanced, definition, with many maxing
out in the neighborhood of 1080X1920. Manufacturers usually recommend
leaving them alone, although changes can be easily implemented through
Control Panel.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: jaws resolution


Dear list can you explain if when using Jaws 12 or 11 and windows 7 and
ms
outlook what importance is the resolution, I know it matters in xp, but
I
get the impression it is not of great importance in windows 7 . The
resolution of the screen is not the same is it? I think some have a
fixed
resolution, thanks Dorothy


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Re: jaws resolution

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

If you're using LCD, these units default to their maximum resolution.
Most today are high, or at least advanced, definition, with many maxing
out in the neighborhood of 1080X1920. Manufacturers usually recommend
leaving them alone, although changes can be easily implemented through
Control Panel.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: jaws resolution


Dear list can you explain if when using Jaws 12 or 11 and windows 7 and
ms
outlook what importance is the resolution, I know it matters in xp, but
I
get the impression it is not of great importance in windows 7 . The
resolution of the screen is not the same is it? I think some have a
fixed
resolution, thanks Dorothy


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Re: Facebook email list and question

kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Ann:
If you want to be back on normal mail then you send the e-mail to
b-f-b-normal@yahoogroups.com.



www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: 19 July, 2011 7:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Facebook email list and question

Hi all,
I went no mail on FB email list but I cannot remember how to get back on
list. Any help appreciated.
I believe my PC might have been compromised. I changed FB password, used
anti spyware software and AVG 2011 Pro anti virus software.
I have several emails defined in Outlook Express.
I use
amedlar1@gmail.com
on Facebook and have another email
akienle1@gmail.com
defined as an account in OE but I don't believe defined to FB. I might have
defined this email to FB but honestly cannot remember.
Today I received a message from
akienle1@gmail.com requesting to be my friend on amedlar1@gmail.com So if
anyone has any ideas how I can get back on Facebook jaws email list or has
any ideas about this above problem please help.
Thanks,
Ann


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jaws resolution

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Dear list can you explain if when using Jaws 12 or 11 and windows 7 and ms
outlook what importance is the resolution, I know it matters in xp, but I
get the impression it is not of great importance in windows 7 . The
resolution of the screen is not the same is it? I think some have a fixed
resolution, thanks Dorothy


Re: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express

Dan Kerstetter <dhk457@...>
 

Tom,

I'm curious as to whether or not you happen to have a second, perhaps older,
version of JAWS installed on your machine you could use to test your outlook
express? Apparently the version you're using doesn't see links. Also you
might try arrowing into the link name itself and pressing enter. If none of
that works, I would try a clean install of JAWS.

HTH

Dan

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On Behalf Of tom behler
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express

Mike:

Believe it or not, I tried all three of the suggestions you sent, and the
problem still persists.

Interestingly, when I do the two options involving the Jaws key plus f7, and

I'm in the body of the e-mail with my cursor positioned on the embedded
link, Jaws says "no links".

Tom Behler

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express


Hi Tom,

Below are a few different notes I have saved regarding your issue.
From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@bellsouth.net>
Hello Ron, and others,
The way I have always opened links is to position my curser on them.
Then do a JAWS Key F7
Tab once .
This "Moves to Link"
Tab again
This "activates" the link
then hit Enter
I have opened links like this since JAWS 3.3
Alan

From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2@gmail.com>

also, if you just do an insert f7, and press enter on the link, then itd
would also work.

From: "Victor" <victor.gouveia@rogers.com>

Hi Lenny and everyone else experiencing this problem.

Press insert+Z. Do it several times until Jaws states on for all
applications.

I don't know why this happens, but suffice it to say, this seems to happen
to me quite frequently.

Will have to write Jaws tech support about it.

Victor


From: "Rick Justice" <ricjustice@jaws-users.com>

Hi Victor,
It would be helpful to folks if you told what the keystroke does.
Jaws key + Z, toggles the virtual cursor on and off.
Rick Justice


From: "Lenny McHugh" <lmchugh@verizon.net>

Hi Rick,
That was also a question that I was going to ask. I don't know what it does
in the background but it does correct the problem. I just opened an email
with several links and none were identified as links. I used insert z three
times and the links in the email were identified. What an interesting
work-around.
Lenny

Hope at least 1 of these helped you. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: tom behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:42 PM
Subject: Getting embedded links to work again in Outlook Express


Hello, everyone.

I am not sure if this is a Jaws issue, or something else, so I hope this
won't be considered to be too "off topic" for the list.

I currently use Outlook Express as my e-mail program on this Windows XP
laptop.

I used to be able to directly access embedded links in an e-mail, but seem
to have lost that capability recently.

I have gone into the Options under Outlook Express, and made sure the box
that says "read only in plain text" was un-checked.

This has not solved my problem.

Can anyone else tell me what to try either in Outlook Express, or maybe
even
in Jaws to get embedded links to work again?

Thanks very much.

Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: VPN and tokens

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Hi Barbara Anne, We use RSASecurIDToken a software solution to the little device everyone else uses. It is industry standered security.
Once the software is installed on your machine you simply launch the application, put in a four digit pin and hit enter. The token is generated for you and you simply cut and paste into the appropriate field and you are good to go.

Regards
Tom Bisset

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: July 19, 2011 8:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: VPN and tokens

Hello List Friends,

My company is being directed by the government entity for which we
have a long term contract to use VPN with tokens. With my last employer, we
used a VPN SoftId solution. SoftId uses VPN without a token by displaying a
graphical set of numbers on the computer screen. A coworker then wrote a
macro/script to cut and paste the graphic into the Pass code. Then the
verification was performed with no problems.
My company in their infinite wisdom will not even investigate this solution.
Before I raise this to a legal level, can any of you provide any
information? I cannot imagine the government requiring a solution that is
not able to be 508 Compliant.
If you have any experience with using VPN, in an environment that uses
tokens, will you please contact me off list at BarbaraAnne1@Mac.com?
Always,
Barbara Anne




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Re: [Bulk] JAWS Concerns.

Dave...
 

Mostafa,

I received a message from you off-list this morning on an inappropriate
subject. Please remove me from your personal contacts list.

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mostafa almahdy" <mostafa.almahdy@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:15
Subject: [Bulk] JAWS Concerns.


Hello ; is it possible to arrange for a conference to discourse
various JAWS issues , perhaps on skype or at
http://www.conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs12e65f29fafa
Mostafa Al'mahdy.
skype:
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On 7/20/11, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:
I seem to recall someone on this list uses a HPMFD, and, presumably, the
OCR software that came with it (an OEM edition of IRIS). I'd love to
have a heart-to-heart talk with that person or persons off list. I'm
determined to get that combo to work, and it's driving me up the wall!
Getting really close, but can't seal the deal.

Ted

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Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS

I also find that many times I am asked to rescan documents that were
handed
out without an original usinc Kurzweil and saving it in Word format for
my
colleagues that don't have access to OCR software.
Chuck
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Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS


Chuck, you are so right! Either they are not scanned well, or they are
still in image form and have to be processed by something like open
book
or k1000 to be readable by us. We had a visually impaired exchange
student
here with us for the last school year, and they sent her books in ocr
form, basically pictures, which could not be read by her using either
her
speech or her braille display. ONce I processed them with open book,
they
were readable but the format was horrible. We finally had to get some
of
them in hard copy and she used a cctv to read them. Crazy! Faith
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JAWS Concerns.

mostafa almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>
 

Hello ; is it possible to arrange for a conference to discourse
various JAWS issues , perhaps on skype or at
http://www.conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs12e65f29fafa
Mostafa Al'mahdy.
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On 7/20/11, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:
I seem to recall someone on this list uses a HPMFD, and, presumably, the
OCR software that came with it (an OEM edition of IRIS). I'd love to
have a heart-to-heart talk with that person or persons off list. I'm
determined to get that combo to work, and it's driving me up the wall!
Getting really close, but can't seal the deal.

Ted

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
ckrugman@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS

I also find that many times I am asked to rescan documents that were
handed
out without an original usinc Kurzweil and saving it in Word format for
my
colleagues that don't have access to OCR software.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Faith Elizabeth Cummings" <faith.cummings@gmx.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS


Chuck, you are so right! Either they are not scanned well, or they are
still in image form and have to be processed by something like open
book
or k1000 to be readable by us. We had a visually impaired exchange
student
here with us for the last school year, and they sent her books in ocr
form, basically pictures, which could not be read by her using either
her
speech or her braille display. ONce I processed them with open book,
they
were readable but the format was horrible. We finally had to get some
of
them in hard copy and she used a cctv to read them. Crazy! Faith
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JAWS and ARIA's application role

Ney André de Mello Zunino <zunino@...>
 

Hello.

Has anybody else had problems with JAWS not entering application mode
when the role="application" attribute/value pair is not set on the root
(body) element, but on an inner container? I have a page which should
work in document mode until an ARIA widget receives focus. This ARIA
widget is within a container div with role="application" set. However,
keystrokes continue to be intercepted by the screen reader, instead of
being left to the application. Setting the role on the body element
results in the expected behavior.


DOESN'T WORK

<body>
...
<div role="application">
...ARIA widget...
</div>
...
</body>


WORKS

<body role="application">
...
...ARIA widget...
...
</body>


I have published a test sample on pastebin. The links are below.
Remember to name the files 'test.html', 'test.css' and 'test.js',
respectivelly. FWIW, I have tried them with Firefox 4 and 5, with JAWS 12.

HTML: http://pastebin.com/jqWarsKC
CSS: http://pastebin.com/d2JAkuHx
JS: http://pastebin.com/uBksPRpT

I'd be very thankful if anybody would be willing to give it a try or
contribute in any other way. This discussion was originally started in
the WebAIM mailing list, but I thought it made sense to publish it here
on the JAWS list.


Thank you in advance,

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Re: OCR programs and JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I seem to recall someone on this list uses a HPMFD, and, presumably, the
OCR software that came with it (an OEM edition of IRIS). I'd love to
have a heart-to-heart talk with that person or persons off list. I'm
determined to get that combo to work, and it's driving me up the wall!
Getting really close, but can't seal the deal.

Ted

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
ckrugman@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS

I also find that many times I am asked to rescan documents that were
handed
out without an original usinc Kurzweil and saving it in Word format for
my
colleagues that don't have access to OCR software.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Faith Elizabeth Cummings" <faith.cummings@gmx.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS


Chuck, you are so right! Either they are not scanned well, or they are
still in image form and have to be processed by something like open
book
or k1000 to be readable by us. We had a visually impaired exchange
student
here with us for the last school year, and they sent her books in ocr
form, basically pictures, which could not be read by her using either
her
speech or her braille display. ONce I processed them with open book,
they
were readable but the format was horrible. We finally had to get some
of
them in hard copy and she used a cctv to read them. Crazy! Faith
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Re: OCR programs and JAWS

mostafa almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@...>
 

Hello Alan ; nice to see you here ; yes ; Freedom Scientific will
certainly seek for it's huge profit as we tend to see ; a good point
Dave is to possess for the first OCR that was made particularly for
the blind ; but if you can give us some additional details about the
core concept of this research , I would be glad to be involved.

On 6/1/11, Alan Dicey <adicey@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hello Friends,
Well, the first scanner I purchased in 1999 was a HP flat bed, only cost
about $200, part of a total computer package from Gateway Computers.
It came with a free OCR program, and that served me just as well as the Open
Book program I got some years later.
All my HP scanners came with Free OCR software, including the last HP I
purchased.
I wonder if they still come with the free OCR software?

I am using an Epson Perfection 350 now.

I still cannot understand Why FS will not incorporate Open Book into JAWS ,
and sell it as one package!
I bet they will one of these days!
Makes JAWS more attractive, and other "off-the-shelf" OCR packages will
surely put Open Book out of business!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>; "The Jaws for Windows
support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: Why Don't Sighted People Use Blind Items?


I know OCR used to be an extra-cost option, and I mean extra cost,
adding several hundred dollars to the cost of a scanner that was already
around $2000. We're talking about the late 1980's. One can only dream
that Sara will ever be as affordable as the average scanner is now.

Ted

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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Why Don't Sighted People Use Blind Items?

And wasn't the first scanner for the blind?

I wouldn't assume that our community had all that much influence. I
suspect
that the first scanners were designed to allow documents and photographs
to
be digitally rendered, analyzed, and archived on computers, and most
likely
by the military or intelligence community. OCR would have developed as
an
adjunct to being able to process a digital image of text on a page.

Then likely someone like Ray Kurzweil or Omni or Xerox came along and
said:
"Hey this would be very good for blind people. Let's work on that!"

However not having researched it (Hey I can use ResearchIt!) I'm not
claiming it's an accurate supposition. Anyone care to use ResearchIt to
see
just when the first scanner was developed and for what? Would be a very
interesting result to post in this already-non-JAWS-topic.

Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 13:07
Subject: Re: Why Don't Sighted People Use Blind Items?


At 07:31 PM 5/30/2011, you wrote:
I think the U.S. is the only country who promotes reading
Braille... Maybe England and Canada, but I talk to people from
Italy, Germany and China and it is only used to learn English or
to read math and music. Nothing else...
Well, perhaps some of those countries don't stress Braille in the
teaching of blind children. They should!

And wasn't the first scanner for the blind?
Yes because sighted folks just look at print and read it. *gasp* I
really am not sure what your point is with all this.

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Re: location of list

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

whe e e e e e e e e e e e e e!

from the thrush of a plain ride, and straight into the rolling and swells of a sailboat? or was it a power boat, love either type anyway so it's all fun to me

tee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee,

and you once wondered why they called me inthane!

by see me,
elf
*walking inthanely off into the sunset*, "oh, it's the other way?", "Oh well, i think I'll go thisswitchwichaway"!

- Inthane----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@zen.co.uk>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: location of list


Thanks for that,now we all know where we are, I think we got a bit air sick
but all finished up in the same boat Dorothy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: 17 July 2011 21:01
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: location of list

hi,

well it seems that James is hosting the list off of his own site in Canada,
and yes one can do such things, normally a ISP provider will give you a
automated group server handling program such as mailman and you can run a
list, usually those who do this are companies and the list has to do with
there product/products, but in this case he used it for the jfw list.

I think he is somewhere around Ottawa Canada.

take care,
elf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@zen.co.uk>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 1:37 AM
Subject: location of list


So sorry I was dead beat at gone midnight last night, I should have
called
it a day, but drilling at a house just uphill of me had caused bedlam
during normal hours, I only wanted to know, after our moves of late
where
we are, it is true a friend in Hampshire did say he thought it was once
in
Australia., I do not know, I believe someone called Jonathon Mosem is in
either Australia or New Zealand but he would not have a list would he? I
cannot recall just what he does?
Sorry again for the messy email regards Dorothy


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Re: OCR programs and JAWS

Charles Krugman
 

yes, and frequently people don't realize that scanning in to a Jpg or other visual format is not the same as using OCR which causes much of the problem or when copies of documents are scanned in to PDF files as an image.
Chuck

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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS


My point was that there are a lot of people who unfortunately do question whether processing needs to be done. Whether you do it with omnipage or open book, you still have to do it, and some people honestly don't know that. Faith
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Re: OCR programs and JAWS

Charles Krugman
 

I also find that many times I am asked to rescan documents that were handed out without an original usinc Kurzweil and saving it in Word format for my colleagues that don't have access to OCR software.
Chuck

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: OCR programs and JAWS


Chuck, you are so right! Either they are not scanned well, or they are still in image form and have to be processed by something like open book or k1000 to be readable by us. We had a visually impaired exchange student here with us for the last school year, and they sent her books in ocr form, basically pictures, which could not be read by her using either her speech or her braille display. ONce I processed them with open book, they were readable but the format was horrible. We finally had to get some of them in hard copy and she used a cctv to read them. Crazy! Faith
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