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moderated Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

Loy
 

You can scan multi pages into a document with JAWS OCR.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

Phillip,

Your message was entirely in the subject field.

I just thought you may want to know that.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

 

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM, NFB Lab 4 wrote:

You can use the pearl camera to scan things directly into jaws.  If you do the layered keystroke insert space and then oh for OCR and a for acquire, that should have you choose the pearl camera as your input source.

 

 

On Mar 15, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

Richard Turner
 

That excuse works for me.

 

My Father always said, “a poor excuse is better than none.” Grin.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

 

My only excuse, and it's not much of one, is that I had been awake for 2 days and was about half asleep when I wrote that.


moderated Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

Phillip Gross
 

My only excuse, and it's not much of one, is that I had been awake for 2 days and was about half asleep when I wrote that.


moderated Re: Problem that I'm experiencing with outlook, and a Microsoft message.

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Am 18.03.2021 um 01:21 schrieb Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...>:

Good evening everyone, 

 

Is there any way that I can just only  hear the email windows  notification sound,  instead of hearing a message that says, Microsoft.office.x.outlook.15  which jaws reads  when I’m reading a message. It seems to over ride or appears on top of the message that I’m reading, and I have too hit the escape key, and then go back into the message that I was reading. This also happens when I’m on a zoom meeting call, and I have too hit the escape key to keep it from interrupting me when I’m listening too what the other callers are saying.

 

Thanks’ in      advance, for any help suggestions and advice regarding this issue, 

 

Al 



moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

Madison Martin
 

Hi Brian,

I just tried to sink my contacts and got an error message, something about the email address might be incorrect or my profile might be incomplete, any idea what might be wrong?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 6:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

All existing versions of Outlook, including 365, use the code base for Outlook 2016, so Go Contact Sync Mod works with them.  This could change with the next generation of Office 365/Office 2021 if there is a substantial change in the code base.  Only time will tell.
--

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To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

Richard Turner
 

Phillip,

Your message was entirely in the subject field.

I just thought you may want to know that.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

 

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM, NFB Lab 4 wrote:

You can use the pearl camera to scan things directly into jaws.  If you do the layered keystroke insert space and then oh for OCR and a for acquire, that should have you choose the pearl camera as your input source.

 

 

On Mar 15, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: orc apps

Richard Turner
 

Yes, right now, Voice Dream Scanner is the best iPhone scanning app in my opinion.

 

But, with the Jaws Convenient OCR, You do have to keep launching the scan to add pages, unless your flatbed scanner has an automatic document feeder.

I do not have the Pearl camera, it may be able to do more than one page without having to launch the scan each time with insert+space, o, then a, then alt+q or tab to acquire and hit spacebar.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

On the IPhone I use Voice Dream Scanner, it is excellent. If you have a scanner you can use JAWS OCR, also I believe that NVDA also has

this feature. Many scanners come with a OCR program included with the scanner.----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:17 PM

Subject: Re: orc apps

 

The trouble is that the rear camera on a phone is like five times better than most laptop cameras.

 

I still use K1000 for anything I really want scanned well, my iPhone with various apps works fine to find a bar code, see who the envelope is from, identify a color or whatever.

 

CH

 

On 3/17/2021 20:57, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

I use seeing AI to sort mail and packages, and to read labels that don't have a barcode.

Those could be brought to a laptop camera easy enough.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:46 PM

Subject: Re: orc apps

 

It really seems more of a mobile device solution to me, I guess on a Windows PC you could use a barcode reader, an external scanner for OCR and some sort of camera for things like currency etc., but I honestly don't think I would ever want to use it, I don't think, for example, I'd like to drag my laptop around if I wanted to use the Light Detector channel and I'd much rather hold my iPhone up to a document I want to use the short text channel on than to try and hold the document up to some camera.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

Seeing AI is not on Android because Microsoft has chosen not to make it for Android.

I am not sure why they have not made it for Windows.  That would be a good question for seeingai@...

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abubakar
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I wonder why app like seeing AI is not available on android. And I think is not available on windows too.

 

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021, 23:46 Dan Longmore, <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Yes, available through Microsoft store.  Simple installation and uses Microsoft voices.

The other mobile apps you mention are good especially Seeing AI.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I didn't know that there was KNFB for windows.

I'd pay 10 for it, but not a hundred, as was mentioned, when there are good IOS apps.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: orc apps

 

K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: orc apps

Loy
 

On the IPhone I use Voice Dream Scanner, it is excellent. If you have a scanner you can use JAWS OCR, also I believe that NVDA also has

this feature. Many scanners come with a OCR program included with the scanner.----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: orc apps

The trouble is that the rear camera on a phone is like five times better than most laptop cameras.


I still use K1000 for anything I really want scanned well, my iPhone with various apps works fine to find a bar code, see who the envelope is from, identify a color or whatever.


CH


On 3/17/2021 20:57, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I use seeing AI to sort mail and packages, and to read labels that don't have a barcode.
Those could be brought to a laptop camera easy enough.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: orc apps

It really seems more of a mobile device solution to me, I guess on a Windows PC you could use a barcode reader, an external scanner for OCR and some sort of camera for things like currency etc., but I honestly don't think I would ever want to use it, I don't think, for example, I'd like to drag my laptop around if I wanted to use the Light Detector channel and I'd much rather hold my iPhone up to a document I want to use the short text channel on than to try and hold the document up to some camera.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

Seeing AI is not on Android because Microsoft has chosen not to make it for Android.

I am not sure why they have not made it for Windows.  That would be a good question for seeingai@...

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abubakar
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I wonder why app like seeing AI is not available on android. And I think is not available on windows too.

 

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021, 23:46 Dan Longmore, <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Yes, available through Microsoft store.  Simple installation and uses Microsoft voices.

The other mobile apps you mention are good especially Seeing AI.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I didn't know that there was KNFB for windows.

I'd pay 10 for it, but not a hundred, as was mentioned, when there are good IOS apps.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Longmore

Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: orc apps

 

K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: Sharing temporary dictionary files

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Mark, 

Dictionary files are stored in your settings folder with the name of the application (and extension .jdf) or in case of all applications with the name "default.jdf". 

If your technical conference is based on an offline application/desktop application you can only overwrite existing application JDF files or since the JDF files are text based writing a script to add the entries at the end of this text file. 

If your technical conference is based on an internet site used in a browser you can use domain-specific files.  If you want to create a dictionary file, let's say for a website called "www.my-site.com" you can do this: 

- Open your site in the browser 
- Press JAWS+D to open Dictionary Manager. If there's no dictionary file created for your browser, JAWS will  ask you to make a new one. 
- If the Dictionary Manager app is on the screen go to file menu and open it. 
- There's an entry for making a domain-specific Dictionary Manger file (I don't know the exact name since I'm not using an English version of JAWS)

The entries you make within this file are stored in "www.my-site.com.jdf". You can copy this file from your Settings Folder and mail it to other persons if you like. Every time they will visit your site (www.my-site.com) JAWS will load this file and unload it if you are going to another URL. 

Hope this helps
Udo 




Am 18.03.2021 um 12:13 schrieb Mark <mweiler@...>:

There was a bit of a discussion about dictionary files earlier and here's another scenario. Imagine you are hosting an event, like a technical conference, and would like to share a JAWS dictionary file that contains entries that are unique to the conference's online experience.  In some cases, there could be a lot of entries, especially if a conference web platform uses lots of specialized terms. Rather than expect guests to manually add those entries, you'd like to share a dictionary file called "my conference.jdf". Guest could load it at the start of the conference, and then when it's done, unload the file.  Anyone have experience in this sort of thing?


moderated Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

Chris Hill
 

Actually, you can just keep scanning and it will keep adding pages.  I don't know what the limit is, but I've definitely scanned more than one.


On 3/18/2021 00:56, Phillip Gross wrote:
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM, NFB Lab 4 wrote:
You can use the pearl camera to scan things directly into jaws.  If you do the layered keystroke insert space and then oh for OCR and a for acquire, that should have you choose the pearl camera as your input source.

 

On Mar 15, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Sharing temporary dictionary files

Mark
 

There was a bit of a discussion about dictionary files earlier and here's another scenario. Imagine you are hosting an event, like a technical conference, and would like to share a JAWS dictionary file that contains entries that are unique to the conference's online experience.  In some cases, there could be a lot of entries, especially if a conference web platform uses lots of specialized terms. Rather than expect guests to manually add those entries, you'd like to share a dictionary file called "my conference.jdf". Guest could load it at the start of the conference, and then when it's done, unload the file.  Anyone have experience in this sort of thing?


moderated Re: orc appsThe thing I hate about convenient OCR is that if you’re not using their camera you can only scan one page into a document. I usually end up using the OCR that came with my scanner. I’ve thought about breaking down and buying Abbyy Finereader.

Phillip Gross
 

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM, NFB Lab 4 wrote:
You can use the pearl camera to scan things directly into jaws.  If you do the layered keystroke insert space and then oh for OCR and a for acquire, that should have you choose the pearl camera as your input source.

 

On Mar 15, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

Hmm, I'm definitely glad that back around 2008 or 2009 when I switched from my ISP's email (POP at that time) I decided to go with what then was Hotmail and what is now Outlook.com.

Setting up an Outlook.com account (basically Exchange) syncs everything, mail, contacts, calendar etc.) and I just find it more convenient and always liked it better than Gmail.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

if Gmail is set up correctly in Outlook as an IMAP account won't the contacts sync?

-
No.  They don't even import at the outset.  Outlook completely separates mail, contacts, and calendar.  It's not unlike how Windows 10 separates mail (Mail App), contacts (People App), and Calendar.  Setting up IMAP email in the Mail App doesn't create any connection to contacts related to the same account.  I wrote a tutorial quite a while back about how to export contacts from the original source, import into Outlook.com, then get those over to the Win10 People App.

These utilities, like most, did not just spring up, unbidden, but to address an unaddressed need.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

Cristóbal
 

Uh, yeah… I don’t’ know if I want to do all that.

Thanks anyway.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

Consider a repair install on Office 2016.  This setting should not be fickle.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

By the way, the Win10 People App does now support direct syncing with Google Contacts, but those account connections must be set up independently of their "sister" email accounts in the Mail App unless something's changed recently.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
if Gmail is set up correctly in Outlook as an IMAP account won't the contacts sync?
-
No.  They don't even import at the outset.  Outlook completely separates mail, contacts, and calendar.  It's not unlike how Windows 10 separates mail (Mail App), contacts (People App), and Calendar.  Setting up IMAP email in the Mail App doesn't create any connection to contacts related to the same account.  I wrote a tutorial quite a while back about how to export contacts from the original source, import into Outlook.com, then get those over to the Win10 People App.

These utilities, like most, did not just spring up, unbidden, but to address an unaddressed need.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: orc apps

Chris Hill
 

The trouble is that the rear camera on a phone is like five times better than most laptop cameras.


I still use K1000 for anything I really want scanned well, my iPhone with various apps works fine to find a bar code, see who the envelope is from, identify a color or whatever.


CH


On 3/17/2021 20:57, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I use seeing AI to sort mail and packages, and to read labels that don't have a barcode.
Those could be brought to a laptop camera easy enough.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: orc apps

It really seems more of a mobile device solution to me, I guess on a Windows PC you could use a barcode reader, an external scanner for OCR and some sort of camera for things like currency etc., but I honestly don't think I would ever want to use it, I don't think, for example, I'd like to drag my laptop around if I wanted to use the Light Detector channel and I'd much rather hold my iPhone up to a document I want to use the short text channel on than to try and hold the document up to some camera.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

Seeing AI is not on Android because Microsoft has chosen not to make it for Android.

I am not sure why they have not made it for Windows.  That would be a good question for seeingai@...

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abubakar
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I wonder why app like seeing AI is not available on android. And I think is not available on windows too.

 

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021, 23:46 Dan Longmore, <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Yes, available through Microsoft store.  Simple installation and uses Microsoft voices.

The other mobile apps you mention are good especially Seeing AI.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I didn't know that there was KNFB for windows.

I'd pay 10 for it, but not a hundred, as was mentioned, when there are good IOS apps.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Longmore

Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: orc apps

 

K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

What is the purpose of such syncing programs, if Gmail is set up correctly in Outlook as an IMAP account won't the contacts sync?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 4:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

All existing versions of Outlook, including 365, use the code base for Outlook 2016, so Go Contact Sync Mod works with them.  This could change with the next generation of Office 365/Office 2021 if there is a substantial change in the code base.  Only time will tell.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 09:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
For all we know he may have had everybody's initials entered as some sort of nick name or maybe it really worked this way, but it does not in Outlook.
-
And that's it, in a nutshell.   I don't care what he had working "in ancient times" or "with ancient software."   What he wants he cannot get, and will not get, with Outlook.

I think enough people (including yourself) have now said this, in no uncertain terms, that it's really not something that can be argued.

The phrase, "Give it up, already!!," with regard to that wish comes immediately to mind.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: orc apps

Glenn / Lenny
 

I use seeing AI to sort mail and packages, and to read labels that don't have a barcode.
Those could be brought to a laptop camera easy enough.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: orc apps

It really seems more of a mobile device solution to me, I guess on a Windows PC you could use a barcode reader, an external scanner for OCR and some sort of camera for things like currency etc., but I honestly don't think I would ever want to use it, I don't think, for example, I'd like to drag my laptop around if I wanted to use the Light Detector channel and I'd much rather hold my iPhone up to a document I want to use the short text channel on than to try and hold the document up to some camera.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

Seeing AI is not on Android because Microsoft has chosen not to make it for Android.

I am not sure why they have not made it for Windows.  That would be a good question for seeingai@...

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abubakar
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I wonder why app like seeing AI is not available on android. And I think is not available on windows too.

 

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021, 23:46 Dan Longmore, <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Yes, available through Microsoft store.  Simple installation and uses Microsoft voices.

The other mobile apps you mention are good especially Seeing AI.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I didn't know that there was KNFB for windows.

I'd pay 10 for it, but not a hundred, as was mentioned, when there are good IOS apps.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Longmore

Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: orc apps

 

K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 

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