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moderated Re: orc apps

 

It really seems more of a mobile device solution to me, I guess on a Windows PC you could use a barcode reader, an external scanner for OCR and some sort of camera for things like currency etc., but I honestly don't think I would ever want to use it, I don't think, for example, I'd like to drag my laptop around if I wanted to use the Light Detector channel and I'd much rather hold my iPhone up to a document I want to use the short text channel on than to try and hold the document up to some camera.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

Seeing AI is not on Android because Microsoft has chosen not to make it for Android.

I am not sure why they have not made it for Windows.  That would be a good question for seeingai@...

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abubakar
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I wonder why app like seeing AI is not available on android. And I think is not available on windows too.

 

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021, 23:46 Dan Longmore, <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Yes, available through Microsoft store.  Simple installation and uses Microsoft voices.

The other mobile apps you mention are good especially Seeing AI.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: orc apps

 

I didn't know that there was KNFB for windows.

I'd pay 10 for it, but not a hundred, as was mentioned, when there are good IOS apps.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: orc apps

 

K-NFB Reader for Windows is reliable.  While not as flexible in terms of different ways to scan I find the K-NFB reader very good and a lot more updated than OpenBook.

Openbook has not been updated in years and I suspect that Freedom will abandon the product as JAWS and other apps, Seeing AI, continue to do well with scanning and OCR.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: orc apps

 

Other than openbook nine,  what are some ways to scan print documents and read them?

 

I do have a pearl scanner.

 

I have windows 10 and jaws 2019.

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

Consider a repair install on Office 2016.  This setting should not be fickle.
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moderated Problem that I'm experiencing with outlook, and a Microsoft message.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good evening everyone, 

 

Is there any way that I can just only  hear the email windows  notification sound,  instead of hearing a message that says, Microsoft.office.x.outlook.15  which jaws reads  when I’m reading a message. It seems to over ride or appears on top of the message that I’m reading, and I have too hit the escape key, and then go back into the message that I was reading. This also happens when I’m on a zoom meeting call, and I have too hit the escape key to keep it from interrupting me when I’m listening too what the other callers are saying.

 

Thanks’ in      advance, for any help suggestions and advice regarding this issue, 

 

Al 


moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

Cristóbal
 

You know, I thought that worked at first, but from an open Outlook email message and after shift tabbing to the to button and pressing spacebar on that to end up in the address book search field and typing a few letters of someone’s name and arrowing down to the results, it seems that the more column checkbox is the one that is selected. I still have to do shift tab to make sure the name checkbox is the one that is selected to then tab back down to get the proper results.

If I pull up the address book independently with the shift+control+b command, it looks like the name checkbox thing sticks, but not so at least for me if accessing the address book from an open email message.

Any ideas?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 04:43 PM, CathyAnne Murtha wrote:

In the Address Book options, make sure the "Start with Contacts folder" radio button is selected. Address Book options are in the Tools menu.

-
Whether the Start with Global Address List or Start with Contacts Folder is chosen is independent of whether the radio button for Name Only or More Columns sticks as my choice between runs of Outlook.  I agree that Start with Contracts Folder is the best option for anyone using Outlook where they're not on an Exchange Server that actually has a Global Address List.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

All existing versions of Outlook, including 365, use the code base for Outlook 2016, so Go Contact Sync Mod works with them.  This could change with the next generation of Office 365/Office 2021 if there is a substantial change in the code base.  Only time will tell.
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To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

Madison Martin
 

Hi Brian,

I checked out that link and it doesn’t say that it works with Office 365 which is what I’m using. Any other suggestions for such programs?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 4:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 05:27 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

If I do this, will they also show up when I go to contacts from my gmail account in Outlook?

-
No.  If you want contacts synchronized between Gmail and the Outlook Address Book you should not even import them in the first place.  Get a contact synchronization program (which you do need since you're not using webmail, and Outlook doesn't directly sync with Gmail) like Go Contact Sync Mod.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 04:43 PM, CathyAnne Murtha wrote:
In the Address Book options, make sure the "Start with Contacts folder" radio button is selected. Address Book options are in the Tools menu.
-
Whether the Start with Global Address List or Start with Contacts Folder is chosen is independent of whether the radio button for Name Only or More Columns sticks as my choice between runs of Outlook.  I agree that Start with Contracts Folder is the best option for anyone using Outlook where they're not on an Exchange Server that actually has a Global Address List.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

You can already use your Outlook contacts if you’ve added Gmail to Outlook. Just use the Address Book while in your Gmail account and the Outlook Contacts are available.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

If I do this, will they also show up when I go to contacts from my gmail account in Outlook?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: March 17, 2021 4:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

You can export your contacts from Outlook and import them into Gmail.

 

To export your contacts:

  1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)
  2. Navigate down to “Open & Export”
  3. Navigate with TAB to the Import/Export button
  4. A small wizard opens through which you can export your Contacts
  5. Follow the wizard screens and export your Contacts to a file with “comma separated values”
  6. Save the file to your computer and note the location, you’ll need it to import the Contacts to Gmail

 

After exporting your contacts, visit Gmail on the web.

  1. Open the JAWS for Windows button list (CTRL-JAWS KEY-B)
  2. Select and activate the “Google Apps” button
  3. Focus is placed on the Google Apps button, press SPACEBAR to open a drop-down list
  4. Select and activate “Contacts”
  5. Open the JAWS for Windows button list
  6. Select and activate “Import”
  7. Focus is placed on the Import button
  8. Press SPACEBAR to activate it

 

The Import dialog opens. Navigate to the “Select file” button and activate it. The Windows open file dialog opens.

 

Navigate the dialog to the Outlook Contacts file. And activate the Open button. Focus returns to the small Import dialog. ‘Activate the “Import” button to import your Outlook Contacts.

 

Close the Contacts tab to return to Gmail.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

I want to import them from my other Outlook account. I’m doing it on the same computer using the gmail website, but I know what I do on there effects/changes my account within Outlook. I’m doing it within settings after I log into my gmail account on the web. My contacts are in Contacts within Outlook.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

-
Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 05:27 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
If I do this, will they also show up when I go to contacts from my gmail account in Outlook?
-
No.  If you want contacts synchronized between Gmail and the Outlook Address Book you should not even import them in the first place.  Get a contact synchronization program (which you do need since you're not using webmail, and Outlook doesn't directly sync with Gmail) like Go Contact Sync Mod.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

Madison Martin
 

If I do this, will they also show up when I go to contacts from my gmail account in Outlook?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: March 17, 2021 4:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with Gmail

 

You can export your contacts from Outlook and import them into Gmail.

 

To export your contacts:

  1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)
  2. Navigate down to “Open & Export”
  3. Navigate with TAB to the Import/Export button
  4. A small wizard opens through which you can export your Contacts
  5. Follow the wizard screens and export your Contacts to a file with “comma separated values”
  6. Save the file to your computer and note the location, you’ll need it to import the Contacts to Gmail

 

After exporting your contacts, visit Gmail on the web.

  1. Open the JAWS for Windows button list (CTRL-JAWS KEY-B)
  2. Select and activate the “Google Apps” button
  3. Focus is placed on the Google Apps button, press SPACEBAR to open a drop-down list
  4. Select and activate “Contacts”
  5. Open the JAWS for Windows button list
  6. Select and activate “Import”
  7. Focus is placed on the Import button
  8. Press SPACEBAR to activate it

 

The Import dialog opens. Navigate to the “Select file” button and activate it. The Windows open file dialog opens.

 

Navigate the dialog to the Outlook Contacts file. And activate the Open button. Focus returns to the small Import dialog. ‘Activate the “Import” button to import your Outlook Contacts.

 

Close the Contacts tab to return to Gmail.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

I want to import them from my other Outlook account. I’m doing it on the same computer using the gmail website, but I know what I do on there effects/changes my account within Outlook. I’m doing it within settings after I log into my gmail account on the web. My contacts are in Contacts within Outlook.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

-
Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with Gmail

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

You can export your contacts from Outlook and import them into Gmail.

 

To export your contacts:

  1. Open Outlook backstage (ALT-F)
  2. Navigate down to “Open & Export”
  3. Navigate with TAB to the Import/Export button
  4. A small wizard opens through which you can export your Contacts
  5. Follow the wizard screens and export your Contacts to a file with “comma separated values”
  6. Save the file to your computer and note the location, you’ll need it to import the Contacts to Gmail

 

After exporting your contacts, visit Gmail on the web.

  1. Open the JAWS for Windows button list (CTRL-JAWS KEY-B)
  2. Select and activate the “Google Apps” button
  3. Focus is placed on the Google Apps button, press SPACEBAR to open a drop-down list
  4. Select and activate “Contacts”
  5. Open the JAWS for Windows button list
  6. Select and activate “Import”
  7. Focus is placed on the Import button
  8. Press SPACEBAR to activate it

 

The Import dialog opens. Navigate to the “Select file” button and activate it. The Windows open file dialog opens.

 

Navigate the dialog to the Outlook Contacts file. And activate the Open button. Focus returns to the small Import dialog. ‘Activate the “Import” button to import your Outlook Contacts.

 

Close the Contacts tab to return to Gmail.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

I want to import them from my other Outlook account. I’m doing it on the same computer using the gmail website, but I know what I do on there effects/changes my account within Outlook. I’m doing it within settings after I log into my gmail account on the web. My contacts are in Contacts within Outlook.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

-
Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

In the Address Book options, make sure the "Start with Contacts folder" radio button is selected. Address Book options are in the Tools menu.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:32 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

Hello list,

Using Outlook 2016, how can I make the name checkbox option the default option when opening the address book? It’s always on more columns which I have to change to name if I want to actually get any search results.

Thanks,

 


moderated Re: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

Bill White
 

I don't know, Cristóbal. When I open my addressbook and begin to do a search, the name only check box is always what is selected by default. Have you tried pressing the ENTER key on the name only check box once it is selected?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:32 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

 

Hello list,

Using Outlook 2016, how can I make the name checkbox option the default option when opening the address book? It’s always on more columns which I have to change to name if I want to actually get any search results.

Thanks,

 


moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

Madison Martin
 

I want to import them from my other Outlook account. I’m doing it on the same computer using the gmail website, but I know what I do on there effects/changes my account within Outlook. I’m doing it within settings after I log into my gmail account on the web. My contacts are in Contacts within Outlook.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

-
Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?
-
Since they are completely separate from e-mail messages, yes, there is.

I do not know where/when you are attempting to do this import, which clouds the issue.  Also, where you're importing them from.

Additional details are needed.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

Madison Martin
 

So there’s no way for me to just ask gmail to just import my contacts?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March 17, 2021 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about importing with gmail

 

Contacts is completely separate from email messages, presuming you're using the import function in the contacts app.

And what gets imported is either all contacts (most cases) if you're not doing any pre-filtering, or the contents of a contacts file you've exported and tweaked.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Making the name checkbox in Outlook 2016 the default

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

Using Outlook 2016, how can I make the name checkbox option the default option when opening the address book? It’s always on more columns which I have to change to name if I want to actually get any search results.

Thanks,

 


moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 02:28 PM, John Covici wrote:
I don't think so, this is a separate list as far as I know.
-
That would be correct.  While a contact will be included in the recently used autocomplete list if you've recently used them (or even not so recently) there is no automatic creation of a Contact from an e-mail address entered in the To/CC/BCC fields under the typical default setup.  There may be a way to have Outlook prompt you as to whether you might want to create one for a new, unknown address, but if so, I don't know how to turn that on.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: adding Outlook contacts

John Covici
 

I don't think so, this is a separate list as far as I know.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:36:40 -0400,
Mario wrote:

so, if he types the address, will that create a second entry in
the contacts? because that entry for the person already exists.


-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:56 AM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
If he types a couple of more letters does that help? The first time
he has to type the complete email address to get it into that list.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 10:51:01 -0400,
Mario wrote:

I am thinking there is some setting that would allow him to do
that, that might have been somehow been disabled because all he
gets is a ding sound when he attempts to type CF, as he mentioned
in his example. so, still would appreciate a suggestion or better
yet, the solution.

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 2:58 PM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
If you just add the contact and send an Email, after that you will be
able to type the first couple of letters, etc. I am not sure you even
have to make the person a contact to do this.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:48:48 -0400,
Mario wrote:

regarding , this is what he told me he wants to do:

"I put the email address in the list.
now I am going to send them a email but I don't want to spell the hole name.
I can just put the first to letters of the name or what numbers or letters.
I do this with chris, I am sending her a email. all I punch in cf
(her first and last name initials) and her
email comes up and I do this with a lot of people that I email a lot
I hope that makes sense."

the verbage between the parentheses is my comment because I know
who the Chris he mentioned is. I don't know how what he is asking
can be accomplished. anyone have a clue?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 11:54 AM
Subject: adding Outlook contacts
a friend of mine is using Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2021 on Windows 10, and
wants to know the keystrokes for adding a new contact to his list, and
"also putting a short cut key for the name I am adding".

I don't know what he is talking about in reference to his latter
request. nor do I know the answer to his former request since I don't
use Outlook. would someone please help.








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How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: question about importing with gmail

 

Contacts is completely separate from email messages, presuming you're using the import function in the contacts app.

And what gets imported is either all contacts (most cases) if you're not doing any pre-filtering, or the contents of a contacts file you've exported and tweaked.
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To think is to differ.
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