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moderated Re: question

 

To sign out of Chrome:

1. Hit Alt to throw focus to the Chrome menu button, but not expanding it.

2. Left arrow until you land on the person logged in, usually this is a single left arrow.

3. Hit Enter to expand, then tab to Sign out.

4. Activate.

Whoever was signed in under Chrome is no longer.
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moderated question

Amir Shah
 

Hi I’m using window ten computer and jaws 2021 on it, I am trying to sign   out from my google chrome because someone else account is sign  in. I want to sign out from there  account to my account how do I go about doing that.

Any one help please


moderated Navigating canvas with Jaws

James Malone
 

Hello all, this question is for anyone but particularly  Debra Armstrong. I have a student that is attending courses at a community college. I was listening to the open line  cast that was made back in February. Debra, you say that Canvas is totally accessible with Jaws. Can you please email me off list on ways to help my client navigate the pages?

I was told that certain web browsers didn’t work with Canvas, and particularly Google Chrome. Here’s the link. https://utah.instructure.com/courses/325662/pages/navigating-canvas-with-a-screen-reader.

Yet, when I went to this link and used Internet explorer, I found that Canvas would not open in Internet Explorer.

When trying to navigate within Chrome, we found that for example when trying to read a message the message preview would come up, but the message body would not read the completed message. My client is using Jaws 21, the latest build. If there is any keystrokes to help read within Canvas, I would like to know what they are so I can give her some assistants before her classes starts on Tuesday.

Feel free to email me at malone_j@....

Best: James


moderated Re: Is there a way to select all graphics in a MS Word document, and then delete them?

 

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 01:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
You could select all the graphics with ctrl-shift-o, then enter on one-at-atime and delete it.
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But why?  Global find and replace has a generic place holder for a graphic, ^g, and the replacement can be nothing.  It can be done using the find and replace function very easily in one fell swoop.
 
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moderated Re: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

kevin meyers
 

I did a repair and it has gotten worse.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

 

I have noticed this also. Chrome takes forever to load also. I have been thinking about doing a repair to see if that helps.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 9:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

 

Yes to both.

 

 

 

Sandra

 

“Society must be organized in such a way that man’s social, loving nature is not separated from his social existence, but becomes one with it. If it is true, as I have tried to show, that love is the only sane and satisfactory answer to the problem of human existence, then any society which excludes, relatively, the development of love, must in the long run perish of its own contradiction with the basic necessities of human nature.”

(Eric Fromm)

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 09:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of Jaws2021, Office2016 and windows10. I had problems for a week when using Outlook2016. I did a update and repair on office2016. That took care of the Outlook problem. Days later I now have a problem when flipping from a web site and Ms word. If I move to quickly between the web site and MS word Jaws will crash. Has anyone encountered this problem? Any thoughts of something I can do to correct the problem? Thanks, Kevin

 


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moderated Re: Is there a way to select all graphics in a MS Word document, and then delete them?

Ann Byrne
 

You could select all the graphics with ctrl-shift-o, then enter on one-at-atime and delete it. Then select again with ctrl-shift-o. It's tedious if you have a ton, but it works.

At 11:44 AM 3/13/2021, you wrote:

Hi!



I am using Windows 10, MS Word 2016 and JAWS 2020. I have a very large MS Word document with many graphics. Is there a way to select all the graphics at once, and then delete them?



Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Resources for accessing PDFs with JAWS

 

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 12:42 PM, Jim Weiss wrote:
Based on the website it appears the free version is no longer supported.
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Uh, no.  Just downloaded it.  It's there and free as it always has been, as is PDF-XChange Editor, but that option is less accessible.  
 
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moderated Re: Is there a way to select all graphics in a MS Word document, and then delete them?

 

Find, Select and Replace All Images in MS-Word

You can leave the replacement blank and they'll be deleted.

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moderated Re: Is there a way to select all graphics in a MS Word document, and then delete them?

Sharon
 

I suppose you could make it into a text document and then back into a word document, though that might destroy a lot of formatting.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 12:45 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Is there a way to select all graphics in a MS Word document, and then delete them?

 

Hi!

 

I am using Windows 10, MS Word 2016 and JAWS 2020.  I have a very large MS Word document with many graphics.  Is there a way to select all the graphics at once, and then delete them?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Is there a way to select all graphics in a MS Word document, and then delete them?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I am using Windows 10, MS Word 2016 and JAWS 2020.  I have a very large MS Word document with many graphics.  Is there a way to select all the graphics at once, and then delete them?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Resources for accessing PDFs with JAWS

Jim Weiss
 

Based on the website it appears the free version is no longer supported. The currently supported version is approximately $50 U. S.


On Mar 13, 2021, at 12:13 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

The actual contents of, Free & Good OCR Software for Image Scanned PDFs, which gives the direct link to the download page for PDF-XChange Viewer.  The page also contains a link to additional language packs for OCR in addition to English, French, Spanish, and German that are built-in to the software:
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The question of OCR scanning Image Scanned PDFs that one knows contain text comes up again and again.  If you don't want to invest some huge amount of money in a fully dedicated specialty OCR suite there is an excellent option available for free from Tracker Software:  PDF-XChange Viewer.

This software is not 100% accessible, but what you need to perform an OCR scan on an Image Scanned PDF is.

You have nothing to lose but a few minutes time to test out either PDF-XChange Viewer (which uses the "old Windows interface style" and I know to be accessible for running OCR) or the free edition of PDF-XChange Editor to check out whether it suits your needs.  I personally prefer PDF-XChange Viewer.  Here are the step-by-step instructions I wrote for a client who was a grad student who kept having old image scanned PDFs assigned for reading by various professors on how to OCR process them using PDF-XChange Viewer:

Used when you receive a PDF that was scanned without Optical Character Recognition.  For reading stick to Adobe Reader or other reader of your choice as PDF-XChange Viewer is not 100% accessible.

1.     Open PDF-XChange Viewer from your start menu or the desktop.

2.     ALT+F, O  Open a file, you’ll need to know where it is and navigate there in the Open Dialog, which is very much like Windows Explorer.

3.     CTRL+SHIFT+C  Perform optical character recognition on the file.  This will be quick for small files, 20 pages or less, but will take some time for very large files, hundreds of pages.  Listen for the process to complete.

4.     ALT+F, S  Save the file over itself with the OCR text now included.  If you wish to save the file under a different name and keep the original use ALT+F, A Save As to do this instead.

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moderated Re: help changing my password

 

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 12:15 PM, Mario wrote:
Brian, I don't know if I'm missing something, but the first set of 4 steps you provided below seem to be missing?
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You're not.  The paste into Groups.io looked perfect, but once it went through the posting process it was hosed.

See:  

Change or reset your Windows password

That page opens with Windows 10 as the default, but there are options to switch to Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 on the page as well.

 
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moderated Re: help changing my password

Mario
 

Brian, I don't know if I'm missing something, but the first set of 4 steps you provided below seem to be missing?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Friday, March 12, 2021, 9:51 PM
Subject: help changing my password
I noticed on the split topic you created that you did mention that
you're using Windows 10.

If you are using a Local Windows 10 User Account, then:
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Reset your Windows 10 local account password

1.
2.
3.
4.

* Use the following instructions to reset your local account password.
Your local account signs you in on your device offline, but it
doesn't link to your other devices. For a more complete experience,
we recommend you sign in with a Microsoft account to access services
like Outlook, Skype, and OneDrive on any of your devices. If you
forgot your Windows 10 password, the easiest way to get back into
your account is to reset the password for your Microsoft account
<https://support.microsoft.com/help/4026971>.
* Reset local account password for Windows 10, version 1803 and beyond
* If you added security questions when you set up your local account
for Windows 10, then you have at least version 1803 and you can
answer security questions to sign back in.
*
After you've entered an incorrect password:
1
Select the Reset password link on the sign-in screen. If you use a
PIN instead, see PIN sign-in issues
<https://support.microsoft.com/help/4026196>. If you're using a work
device that's on a network, you may not see an option to reset your
password or PIN. In that case, contact your administrator.
2
Answer your security questions.
3
Enter a new password.
4
Sign in as usual with the new password.

--------------------

I you are using a Microsoft Account Linked Windows 10 User Account the
easiest thing to do is open Settings, Accounts, and in the Your info
pane activate the Manage my Microsoft Account link and go through the
password reset procedure once you're logged in to your Microsoft
Account.  The change propagates down to your Windows 10 User Account
after it's reset there.
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moderated Re: Resources for accessing PDFs with JAWS

 

The actual contents of, Free & Good OCR Software for Image Scanned PDFs, which gives the direct link to the download page for PDF-XChange Viewer.  The page also contains a link to additional language packs for OCR in addition to English, French, Spanish, and German that are built-in to the software:
-----
The question of OCR scanning Image Scanned PDFs that one knows contain text comes up again and again.  If you don't want to invest some huge amount of money in a fully dedicated specialty OCR suite there is an excellent option available for free from Tracker Software:  PDF-XChange Viewer.

This software is not 100% accessible, but what you need to perform an OCR scan on an Image Scanned PDF is.

You have nothing to lose but a few minutes time to test out either PDF-XChange Viewer (which uses the "old Windows interface style" and I know to be accessible for running OCR) or the free edition of PDF-XChange Editor to check out whether it suits your needs.  I personally prefer PDF-XChange Viewer.  Here are the step-by-step instructions I wrote for a client who was a grad student who kept having old image scanned PDFs assigned for reading by various professors on how to OCR process them using PDF-XChange Viewer:

Used when you receive a PDF that was scanned without Optical Character Recognition.  For reading stick to Adobe Reader or other reader of your choice as PDF-XChange Viewer is not 100% accessible.

1.     Open PDF-XChange Viewer from your start menu or the desktop.

2.     ALT+F, O  Open a file, you’ll need to know where it is and navigate there in the Open Dialog, which is very much like Windows Explorer.

3.     CTRL+SHIFT+C  Perform optical character recognition on the file.  This will be quick for small files, 20 pages or less, but will take some time for very large files, hundreds of pages.  Listen for the process to complete.

4.     ALT+F, S  Save the file over itself with the OCR text now included.  If you wish to save the file under a different name and keep the original use ALT+F, A Save As to do this instead.

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moderated Re: Resources for accessing PDFs with JAWS

 

Hi brian,
Is PDF XChange viewer free, if it is, where can i get it please.
Thank you so much 
Arvind

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On 12 Mar 2021, at 8:58 PM, James Benstead <james.benstead@...> wrote:


Thank you all! That's some really helpful information regarding OCR. I had been using the OCR functions in Acrobat Pro, but I'll give what you suggest a run through, too.

I'm also interested in more general guides to PDF accessibility. I've got various PDFs here that don't need OCR done to them -- they are there on the screen as actual text -- but when I go to read them I still get stuck. Some won't read past the first page, for example; others aren't tagged (this is almost all of them!) and while I've had some success with the AutoTag feature in Acrobat Pro this certainly hasn't solved all of my problems. What I'm really looking for, I suppose, is a list of all the tricks people have developed to deal with PDFs that don't need OCR work, but still aren't accessible.

Jim

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 22:57, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Scott,

            I really do not know how it differs from JAWS convenient OCR.  What I do know is that PDF X-Change Viewer has been an incredibly good, and incredibly accurate, OCR scanner that has worked very well on some pretty rough originals.  It also supports many additional language packs, at no cost, beyond English, French, German, and Spanish (if I'm remembering the four correctly) that come with the native utility.  I had a client who was a translator from Swedish to English and she used it with the Swedish language pack for documents that were in Swedish.  It does not, however, do any automatic language switching.  It presumes that a given document will be in a single language, so it wouldn't be good for, say OCRing an image scanned page from a language text where both languages are used interspersed on the same page.

             What I liked about it was that it was easy both to run the OCR and to save the resulting file such that you'd never have to do OCR again and could send it to others with the text layer already there.  I had my client who was a grad student send these to his instructors, and asking them to replace the existing image scanned PDFs with those with the OCR text layer so that later students who were blind or visually impaired would not have to do any OCR processing on them.
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moderated Re: help changing my password

Kenny Nikolausson
 

Press ctrl+alt+Del and then press tab until you see a button called change password and then follow the instructions. 
Good luck
Regards Kenny


Från: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> för Amir Shah <4amir.shah@...>
Skickat: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:17:41 PM
Till: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Ämne: Re: help changing my password
 
I do not know why I think it’s windows 10
> On Mar 12, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
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> are you using Windows 10 or 7?
>

> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Amir Shah  [mailto:4amir.shah@...]
> To: <jfw@groups.io>
> Date: Friday, March 12, 2021, 3:07 PM
> Subject: help changing my password
> hi my name is amir shah, can somebody help refreshing my memory how do I
> change the password on the computer with jaws 2021 thanks.
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moderated Re: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, crashing a lot more and in situations as described below.  The tab switching , when Outlook is open, seems to be the worst.

 

Dan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 9:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

 

I have noticed this also. Chrome takes forever to load also. I have been thinking about doing a repair to see if that helps.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 9:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

 

Yes to both.

 

 

 

Sandra

 

“Society must be organized in such a way that man’s social, loving nature is not separated from his social existence, but becomes one with it. If it is true, as I have tried to show, that love is the only sane and satisfactory answer to the problem of human existence, then any society which excludes, relatively, the development of love, must in the long run perish of its own contradiction with the basic necessities of human nature.”

(Eric Fromm)

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 09:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2021 keeps crashing

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of Jaws2021, Office2016 and windows10. I had problems for a week when using Outlook2016. I did a update and repair on office2016. That took care of the Outlook problem. Days later I now have a problem when flipping from a web site and Ms word. If I move to quickly between the web site and MS word Jaws will crash. Has anyone encountered this problem? Any thoughts of something I can do to correct the problem? Thanks, Kevin

 


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moderated Re: Issue with Outlook 2016 and Jaws not announcing the deletion of keys since Jaws version 2021 release and subsequent updates

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  There are a lot of oddities with Outlook and JAWS.  I have not experienced this particular issue however JAWS crashes more , since new version, with Outlook.

As Outlook is a very reliable and stable program I am prone to believe the problem lies with JAWS.

Hopefully JAWS will seek out Microsoft to troubleshoot and fix these annoying issues.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:45 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Issue with Outlook 2016 and Jaws not announcing the deletion of keys since Jaws version 2021 release and subsequent updates

 

Hello list,

So this issue I first noticed after Jaws 2021 came out and has been present with every release since then. I even wrote Vispero about it a couple of weeks ago and after getting a response to my email that the problem could not be reproduced by whoever dealt with my submission, I even reached out via telephone to try to show jaws tech support by doing a tandem session. Of course my luck, when I tried reproducing the issue, everything worked fine. In fairness, this issue doesn’t happen 100% of the time, but more like 80 to 90%.

Anyway, the issue is that when I’m in the notes section of an open appointment and backspace to delete whatever it is I want to get rid of, Jaws says nothing. Complete silence. I have to do a say line or say word back and forth to make sure I haven’t deleted too much or simply find out where I am. Same goes for pressing the delete key to erase the current character. The odd thing is that if I backspace or delete in a subject line of an appointment or the different files for time date or location, Jaws behaves as always by announcing the deleted characters. When I’m in an outlook message composing a message, the deletion behavior usually works fine. The few times where I’ll experience the deletion silence in an Outlook message is if I immediately compose a message right after closing a calendar appointment or work on some copied and pasted text from the notes section in the body of an email. Even when I’m in the actual notes tab of Outlook, everything works as expected with Jaws speaking what I’m deleting when in a note.

This behavior is on both my machines so I’m pretty sure it’s not something particular to one computer’s set up and again, it only started after Jaws 2021 came out.

Is anyone else dealing with this by any chance?

 


moderated Re: Issue with Outlook 2016 and Jaws not announcing the deletion of keys since Jaws version 2021 release and subsequent updates

Cristóbal
 

Deletion of characters and not keys I meant…

 

From: Cristobal Muñoz <cristobalmuli@...>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 8:45 PM
Subject: Issue with Outlook 2016 and Jaws not announcing the deletion of keys since Jaws version 2021 release and subsequent updates

 

Hello list,

So this issue I first noticed after Jaws 2021 came out and has been present with every release since then. I even wrote Vispero about it a couple of weeks ago and after getting a response to my email that the problem could not be reproduced by whoever dealt with my submission, I even reached out via telephone to try to show jaws tech support by doing a tandem session. Of course my luck, when I tried reproducing the issue, everything worked fine. In fairness, this issue doesn’t happen 100% of the time, but more like 80 to 90%.

Anyway, the issue is that when I’m in the notes section of an open appointment and backspace to delete whatever it is I want to get rid of, Jaws says nothing. Complete silence. I have to do a say line or say word back and forth to make sure I haven’t deleted too much or simply find out where I am. Same goes for pressing the delete key to erase the current character. The odd thing is that if I backspace or delete in a subject line of an appointment or the different files for time date or location, Jaws behaves as always by announcing the deleted characters. When I’m in an outlook message composing a message, the deletion behavior usually works fine. The few times where I’ll experience the deletion silence in an Outlook message is if I immediately compose a message right after closing a calendar appointment or work on some copied and pasted text from the notes section in the body of an email. Even when I’m in the actual notes tab of Outlook, everything works as expected with Jaws speaking what I’m deleting when in a note.

This behavior is on both my machines so I’m pretty sure it’s not something particular to one computer’s set up and again, it only started after Jaws 2021 came out.

Is anyone else dealing with this by any chance?

 


moderated Issue with Outlook 2016 and Jaws not announcing the deletion of keys since Jaws version 2021 release and subsequent updates

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So this issue I first noticed after Jaws 2021 came out and has been present with every release since then. I even wrote Vispero about it a couple of weeks ago and after getting a response to my email that the problem could not be reproduced by whoever dealt with my submission, I even reached out via telephone to try to show jaws tech support by doing a tandem session. Of course my luck, when I tried reproducing the issue, everything worked fine. In fairness, this issue doesn’t happen 100% of the time, but more like 80 to 90%.

Anyway, the issue is that when I’m in the notes section of an open appointment and backspace to delete whatever it is I want to get rid of, Jaws says nothing. Complete silence. I have to do a say line or say word back and forth to make sure I haven’t deleted too much or simply find out where I am. Same goes for pressing the delete key to erase the current character. The odd thing is that if I backspace or delete in a subject line of an appointment or the different files for time date or location, Jaws behaves as always by announcing the deleted characters. When I’m in an outlook message composing a message, the deletion behavior usually works fine. The few times where I’ll experience the deletion silence in an Outlook message is if I immediately compose a message right after closing a calendar appointment or work on some copied and pasted text from the notes section in the body of an email. Even when I’m in the actual notes tab of Outlook, everything works as expected with Jaws speaking what I’m deleting when in a note.

This behavior is on both my machines so I’m pretty sure it’s not something particular to one computer’s set up and again, it only started after Jaws 2021 came out.

Is anyone else dealing with this by any chance?

 

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