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moderated Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

Bill White
 

Desktop Window Manager (DWM, previously Desktop Compositing Engine or DCE) is the window manager in Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10 that enables the use of hardware acceleration to render the graphical user interface of Windows.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

what is a desktop manager window

contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@comcast.net


On Mar 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@att.net> wrote:

Desktop Manager Window

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

what are DMW notifications?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@att.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2021, 11:02 AM
Subject: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications
Read DMW notifications with the keystroke,

SHIFT plus WINDOWS Key plus V, in other words, press SHIFT plus WINDOWS
Key, keep them held down, and press V. To allow yourself more time to
read the notification,

1. Open Control Panel.

2. Navigate to, and open Ease of Access Center.

3. Navigate to, and open, Use the computer without a display.‑

4. TAB to, and open, How long should Windows notification dialog boxes
stay open?

5. Choose a value longer than the default. I chose 30 seconds.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Monday, March 8, 2021 7:08 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

I keep getting this notification but can’t seem to read it—probably
forgot how. Thanks.

Cheerfully,

Shirley














moderated Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

 

Mike,

         These are most commonly referred to simply as notifications.  As of Win10 Version 1809, WinKey+Shift+V will immediately throw focus to one that is still on display.  If it's gone already, the vast majority end up being put into the notifications queue in the Windows Action Center, accessed via WinKey+A.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

mike mcglashon
 

what is a desktop manager window

contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@comcast.net

On Mar 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@att.net> wrote:

Desktop Manager Window

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

what are DMW notifications?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@att.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2021, 11:02 AM
Subject: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications
Read DMW notifications with the keystroke,

SHIFT plus WINDOWS Key plus V, in other words, press SHIFT plus WINDOWS
Key, keep them held down, and press V. To allow yourself more time to
read the notification,

1. Open Control Panel.

2. Navigate to, and open Ease of Access Center.

3. Navigate to, and open, Use the computer without a display.‑

4. TAB to, and open, How long should Windows notification dialog boxes
stay open?

5. Choose a value longer than the default. I chose 30 seconds.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Monday, March 8, 2021 7:08 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

I keep getting this notification but can’t seem to read it—probably
forgot how. Thanks.

Cheerfully,

Shirley














moderated Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

Bill White
 

Desktop Manager Window

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

what are DMW notifications?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@att.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2021, 11:02 AM
Subject: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications
Read DMW notifications with the keystroke,

SHIFT plus WINDOWS Key plus V, in other words, press SHIFT plus WINDOWS
Key, keep them held down, and press V. To allow yourself more time to
read the notification,

1. Open Control Panel.

2. Navigate to, and open Ease of Access Center.

3. Navigate to, and open, Use the computer without a display.‑

4. TAB to, and open, How long should Windows notification dialog boxes
stay open?

5. Choose a value longer than the default. I chose 30 seconds.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Monday, March 8, 2021 7:08 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

I keep getting this notification but can’t seem to read it—probably
forgot how. Thanks.

Cheerfully,

Shirley


moderated Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

Mario
 

what are DMW notifications?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@att.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2021, 11:02 AM
Subject: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications
Read DMW notifications with the keystroke,

SHIFT plus WINDOWS Key plus V, in other words, press SHIFT plus WINDOWS
Key, keep them held down, and press V. To allow yourself more time to
read the notification,

1. Open Control Panel.

2. Navigate to, and open Ease of Access Center.

3. Navigate to, and open, Use the computer without a display.‑

4. TAB to, and open, How long should Windows notification dialog boxes
stay open?

5. Choose a value longer than the default. I chose 30 seconds.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net <mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Monday, March 8, 2021 7:08 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

I keep getting this notification but can’t seem to read it—probably
forgot how. Thanks.

Cheerfully,

Shirley


moderated Re: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

Bill White
 

Read DMW notifications with the keystroke,

 

SHIFT plus WINDOWS Key plus V, in other words, press SHIFT plus WINDOWS Key, keep them held down, and press V. To allow yourself more time to read the notification,

 

1. Open Control Panel.

2. Navigate to, and open Ease of Access Center.

3. Navigate to, and open, Use the computer without a display.‑

4. TAB to, and open, How long should Windows notification dialog boxes stay open?

5. Choose a value longer than the default. I chose 30 seconds.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

 

I keep getting this notification but can’t seem to read it—probably forgot how. Thanks.

 

Cheerfully,

 

Shirley

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

Bill White
 

Hi, David. Even if it were the case where Jeff installed JAWS on Too many computers, this would still not account for the incorrect serial number.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 2:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

 

I’m wondering if Jeff has installed it on too many computers?  Myself when I’ve exceeded the allowable 3 computers, if trying to install it on a 4th it installs just stays in the 40 minute mode.  Just a thought. Regardless he will have to wait till later on today to contact FS.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: March 7, 2021 11:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

 

Hi Jeff,

I’m assuming you’re authorized to run JAWS 2021 as it's a paid upgrade …

Do you have your 20-character authorization number? if so, go into the JAWS help menu and choose Update authorization and enter the 20-character dumber when asked, then follow the prompts.

Cheers,

Ed

On 7 March 2021 22:45:24 "Audiobookfan" <listening4it@...> wrote:

I just installed Jaws 2021 but it won't activate properly because it's
using an incorrect serial number. Activation says it completes
successfully, but it still continues to run in 40 minute mode. I cannot
find where to correct the serial number. How do I fix this?

Jeff

 


moderated Remind me how to read DMW Notifications

Shirley Tracy
 

I keep getting this notification but can’t seem to read it—probably forgot how. Thanks.

 

Cheerfully,

 

Shirley

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

David Diamond
 

I’m wondering if Jeff has installed it on too many computers?  Myself when I’ve exceeded the allowable 3 computers, if trying to install it on a 4th it installs just stays in the 40 minute mode.  Just a thought. Regardless he will have to wait till later on today to contact FS.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: March 7, 2021 11:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

 

Hi Jeff,

I’m assuming you’re authorized to run JAWS 2021 as it's a paid upgrade …

Do you have your 20-character authorization number? if so, go into the JAWS help menu and choose Update authorization and enter the 20-character dumber when asked, then follow the prompts.

Cheers,

Ed

On 7 March 2021 22:45:24 "Audiobookfan" <listening4it@...> wrote:

I just installed Jaws 2021 but it won't activate properly because it's
using an incorrect serial number. Activation says it completes
successfully, but it still continues to run in 40 minute mode. I cannot
find where to correct the serial number. How do I fix this?

Jeff

 


moderated Re: Working with people at disability help desk

val and david paul <valanddavidp@...>
 

Well said Dianne!

As my hubby and I are both totally blind, and with no sighted help around, I can relate to everything you stated.


Val.

On 07/03/2021 17:31, Vaughn Brown wrote:

Well-said Diane!

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Leedy Diane Bomar
*Sent:* Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:27 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Working with people at disability help desk

The message appearing at the end is, no doubt, a careless mistake on my part. I am usually very careful about that, but somehow it has happened twice, lately.

As far as the white on white, I had no clue how to do that, and hope that I have rectified that problem. I hope that you will let me know.

Though, I must say, considering the topic and your status as a sighted user, I possibly would have done that on purpose, if I had known how. Ironic, isn't it? I had no problem reading it, and anyone using speech or braille output would not have had a problem. But, you, a light and contrast dependent person, had to do the kind of calisthenics we go through each day at many times!

What if you had to have a blind person read it for you? If you didn't know about accessibility, and only a blind person could read it, you would have been up a creek without a blind 24/7 companion.

So, I apologize for that weirdness, and promise you that I did not do it on purpose, but, I have learned a lot of information because of the problem. I swear that I did not do anything with my keyboard or touch screen, that should have caused that problem. But, I have grimlins in my house with a wicked sense of humor!

I called Apple, talked to a sighted accessibility specialist who insisted that what happened was impossible. She wouldn't believe it until we did a screen sharing session, and she could SEE it herself. So typical, seeing is believing, after all. Though I add to that that "vision is deceiving". She had to put me on hold for a long time to find out how that was possible, then insisted that I had to have gone into the text formatting section and changed the color. I did not do that. To make it more weird, email I typed, while she was watching my screen, came out fine! My text formatting color was set to white, and my screen was black, even when checking the screen appearance under settings.

I think that most people are missing the point of my complaint, which has nothing to do with expecting a sighted tech support person to know how a blind person uses computers. It is strictly the assumption that there must be a sighted person available to whom they can speak, without even trying to explain how to do something. This applies to pushing buttons on my Roomba, a setting on a router, using a blender with many buttons, etc. I expect tech support to have people that have been trained in all aspects of their product's capabilities, even if it means transferring the customer to someone with specialty knowledge.

Please don't lecture me on capitalistic principles. It is condescending of you to do that. I am not a stupid child, with no education or understanding of economics. The point is that a niche market is a narrow-minded approach, as all families have someone with some type of "disability". In addition, all of us are a nanosecond away of contracting a disabling condition. The point is that full inclusion is a societal issue, and is much less expensive to provide in a design than having to rewrite, renovate, or kluge a solution. Far too long, have I heard that argument, which says "we are allowing you to be here, but don't expect equality." If you want to distract by calling it "a chip on my shoulder" that is your prerogative, but does not diminish the reality of the issue. Because I am not a typical blind person that readily accepts my lot in society, that accepts that I must have sighted assistance, that I am less important than anyone else, is not a part of my mentality. We have to have goals, and, though, I don't expect the equality and full inclusion to happen in my lifetime, I will do everything I can to advocate for that eventuality. As a child, I owned very few books that I could read, now I have access to more than I could read in several lifetimes! Could I have expected that, but, did I dream and want it, YES! If I and others had accepted that the immediate access to information was reserved solely for people with sight, we would not be included, now.

 Diane Bomar


On Mar 6, 2021, at 20:47, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>> wrote:

Diane,

Something weird is going on with your email.  This last message on-group, like your private message to me, is not only bottom posted beneath the quotation of multiple messages, but is in white text on white background.  I doubt very much that either is by intent.

This is likely far less an issue to a screen reader user, since a screen reader cares not one whit about foreground and background colors, but since I know we have a couple of regulars who are visually impaired, rather than totally blind, I am going to quote what you had in your last message directly below:
-----

When speech output was relatively new, I worked as a systems analyst at a local utility company. The VP of that department, I suspect hired me just for the excuse of buying a talking IBM terminal. I was expected to be prepared, without notice, to make it read the pledge of allegiance to anyone he brought to my office. They did not like it as much if I turned off the screen.

We must educate society, and insist on full inclusion. What really gets to me is the seeming assumption that I have to have a sighted person readily available, and that if that is the case I would not have already asked for their assistance if eyes would solve the problem. I need to know how to solve issues, by myself, for future problems of that nature.

Amazon Kindle tech support should know, for instance, how one turns speech output on/off. Two years ago, they insisted that I had to have "sighted assistance" which, of course, is untrue. I went round and round with them for over an hour before figuring it out for myself.
------


moderated Re: Using JAWS to create a label for a button on a web site, which has no text label

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Marty, 

I don't know why JAWS can't remember the labels but personally I think perhaps it's better to make a domain-specific script working only on this particular side. Can you share a web links so I can have a closer look if this is possible? 

All the best 
Udo 


Am 05.03.2021 um 05:02 schrieb Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...>:

I have tried to label buttons on a web media player for a radio station listen live using the Insert + F2 and arrowing down to Custom Label.  I am using JAWS 21 latest build and Windows 7 and Google Chrome.  The buttons work and read correctly until I close the page.  When I come back the next day, the buttons are back to just saying Button when I navigate to them.  Why don’t my labels stick?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 


moderated Re: MS Word and highlighting question

Phillip Gross
 

Loreal, I have a question only sort of related to what you were asking about. If you have to use time codes in your transcription, how do you know when you’ve hit the allotted time? Maybe I should be more specific. Say your client wants time codes every 30 seconds. How do you know while you’re transcribing that 30 seconds has elapsed and you need to enter another time stamp?


moderated Re: Putting an app on my desktop with Jaws?

Chris
 

Instead of hitting enter , do a right click and choose open file location

File explorer should open with the outlook.exe selected , again right click and go to the send to sub menu and choose desktop create shortcut option

You are done”

 

 

From: Maria Reyes
Sent: 08 March 2021 05:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Putting an app on my desktop with Jaws?

 

Hi,

How do I put Outlook onto my desktop? To open it I just hit my windows key for the start menu and just type in Outlook and press enter to open, but how do I put it on my desktop? I'm using Jaws 2019.

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Putting an app on my desktop with Jaws?

Bill White
 

Hi again, Maria. I wish to edit my previous message to you, as I left out a
couple of steps that seem simple to me, but could cause you confusion.

1. Press Windows key plus R for the Run dialog.
2. Type the following into the dialog box,

shell:appsfolder

3. Once the AppsFolder opens, use first letter navigation to navigate to the
program you want to put on the desktop.
4. Press either the Applications menu key, or press SHIFT plus F10.
5. Arrow down to Create Shortcut, and press ENTER.
6. When Windows tells you that Windows can't create a shortcut here, and
asks if you want to put the shortcut on the desktop, answer Yes, or press
SPACE BAR.
7. Once you answer Yes, close the AppsFolder with ALT plus F4.
8. Now the program will have a shortcut on the desktop.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Reyes
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Putting an app on my desktop with Jaws?

Hi,
How do I put Outlook onto my desktop? To open it I just hit my windows key
for the start menu and just type in Outlook and press enter to open, but how
do I put it on my desktop? I'm using Jaws 2019.


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

Edward Green
 

Hi Jeff,

I’m assuming you’re authorized to run JAWS 2021 as it's a paid upgrade …

Do you have your 20-character authorization number? if so, go into the JAWS help menu and choose Update authorization and enter the 20-character dumber when asked, then follow the prompts.

Cheers,

Ed

On 7 March 2021 22:45:24 "Audiobookfan" <listening4it@...> wrote:

I just installed Jaws 2021 but it won't activate properly because it's
using an incorrect serial number. Activation says it completes
successfully, but it still continues to run in 40 minute mode. I cannot
find where to correct the serial number. How do I fix this?

Jeff



moderated Re: Putting an app on my desktop with Jaws?

Bill White
 

Hi, Maria.

1. Press Windows key plus R for the Run dialog.
2. Type the following into the dialog box,

shell:appsfolder

3. Once the AppsFolder opens, use first letter navigation to navigate to the
program you want to put on the desktop.
4. Press either the Applications menu key, or press SHIFT plus F10.
5. Arrow down to Create Shortcut, and press ENTER.
6. Now the program will have a shortcut on the desktop.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Reyes
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Putting an app on my desktop with Jaws?

Hi,
How do I put Outlook onto my desktop? To open it I just hit my windows key
for the start menu and just type in Outlook and press enter to open, but how
do I put it on my desktop? I'm using Jaws 2019.


moderated Putting an app on my desktop with Jaws?

Maria Reyes
 

Hi,
How do I put Outlook onto my desktop? To open it I just hit my windows key for the start menu and just type in Outlook and press enter to open, but how do I put it on my desktop? I'm using Jaws 2019.


moderated Re: Working with people at disability help desk

Mike B.
 


Hi Ken,
 
No, never heard of either of these, thanks for sharing.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2021 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Working with people at disability help desk

Good day.

 

Have you folks heard of the www.gethuman.com web site or the smart phone gethuman app?

 

I do not believe it sends/lists you to a disability help desk, but it might shorten a journey or two to get assistance.

 

HTH,

Ken

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Working with people at disability help desk

 

On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 02:42 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:

I am sorry but this entire discussion is vastly off-topic for a jaws
support list.

-
Not that I don't agree, but you clearly have not been paying attention to the things customarily allowed to be discussed on this very list.  Moderation is very light-handed, and a huge number of topics are not "on topic" as far as being JAWS related.  This is but one of many.

There is a reason you have the "Mute this Topic" option at the bottom of each and every message and it's up to you to use it.  You also have other options that give you even more control:

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)


--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

To think is to differ.
      ~ Clarence Darrow


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

Mike B.
 


If you're installing for the first time and you're authorizing using the internet, read the box that shows your authorization code and make sure your authorization number is correct.  Other than that I don't know of anything else you can do except for talking to FS / Vispero tech support.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2021 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

I don't think this is something you will be able to do yourself. I think you will have to call or email Vispero (Freedom Scientific).

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

I just installed Jaws 2021 but it won't activate properly because it's
using an incorrect serial number. Activation says it completes
successfully, but it still continues to run in 40 minute mode. I cannot
find where to correct the serial number. How do I fix this?

Jeff











moderated Re: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

Bill White
 

I don't think this is something you will be able to do yourself. I think you will have to call or email Vispero (Freedom Scientific).

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2021 incorrect serial number

I just installed Jaws 2021 but it won't activate properly because it's
using an incorrect serial number. Activation says it completes
successfully, but it still continues to run in 40 minute mode. I cannot
find where to correct the serial number. How do I fix this?

Jeff

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