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moderated Re: Another MS Word question, JAWS saying zoom in/out

Loreal Lavigna
 

Thank you everyone for all of your help and suggestions!  I really appreciate it, and yes I’ve found what will work best for me. 

 

Sincerely,

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another MS Word question, JAWS saying zoom in/out

 

Loreal,

My guess is that some Office update changed what is in yoru status line and you’d need to add back in Word Count. If Glen’s key command works for  you, that sounds like an easy alternative.  I’d have to look up my notes for adding word count back into the status line.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another MS Word question, JAWS saying zoom in/out
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The key command you gave me works, thank you very much.  I appreciate it!

 

Sincerely,

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 5:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another MS Word question, JAWS saying zoom in/out

 

Hi again,

 

It should be in the “Review” (alt-R) under proofing, if the Ctrl+shift+G does not work. HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another MS Word question, JAWS saying zoom in/out

 

Hi Loreal,

Is the word document window maximized?

Try windows key + up arrow, and then try the status command again.

HTH.

 

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 2:59 PM

Subject: Another MS Word question, JAWS saying zoom in/out

 

OK so since my last question went so well here’s another one.  I have to be able to accurately get a word count with my documents for one particular client.  I can have documents with as few as 100 words or as many as 15,000 words.  It used to be that when I opened a document I could immediately on opening the document use the JAWS key combination of JAWS Key plus Page Down and get the page and word counts.  Now JAWS says “page one of” however many pages followed by “spelling and grammar check no errors.”  How do I get it to continue saying the word count in the document instead of using the virtual ribbon and layered menus?  I know I can always do alt, R, P for proofing, then W for word count.  From there I have to enable to virtual cursor and get the word count from the dialogue that pops up.  Any suggestions on how to make this process a bit faster and go back to the way JAWS used to say things?  Should I turn off the spelling and grammar checker as documents are being typed?  Does that even have any effect on what I’m doing/attempting to do?

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

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Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

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moderated Re: No Luck With Closing Program Via Task Manager

Michael Mote
 

Hi Tom. In the Task manager, you may need to close the process of said program. Sometimes, the instance of it running can hide there. I would look in the processes area in your Task Manager and see if it is indeed running there. What program is this that we are talking about?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: No Luck With Closing Program Via Task Manager

 

Hello again, everyone.

 

I tried Gerald’s suggestion about making sure the program I am working with is completely closed using the task manager, but had no luck.

 

I couldn’t find the program listed in the task manager itself, which to me, means it should already be closed.

 

I also looked in the system tray, but couldn’t find it there either, but perhaps I’m not looking in the right spot.  If someone could tell me where to look for any open programs in the system tray, that would be appreciated.

 

Why the program still won’t re-open, unless I completely shut down and re-boot my computer remains a mystery to me.

 

Once again, I’m using Windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: No Luck With Closing Program Via Task Manager

Richard Turner
 

Is it one particular program?

I didn’t see the earlier part of this thread.

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: No Luck With Closing Program Via Task Manager

 

Hello again, everyone.

 

I tried Gerald’s suggestion about making sure the program I am working with is completely closed using the task manager, but had no luck.

 

I couldn’t find the program listed in the task manager itself, which to me, means it should already be closed.

 

I also looked in the system tray, but couldn’t find it there either, but perhaps I’m not looking in the right spot.  If someone could tell me where to look for any open programs in the system tray, that would be appreciated.

 

Why the program still won’t re-open, unless I completely shut down and re-boot my computer remains a mystery to me.

 

Once again, I’m using Windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: No Luck With Closing Program Via Task Manager

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Tom,
Did you look through both programs and processes?
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 9:50 AM
Subject: No Luck With Closing Program Via Task Manager

Hello again, everyone.

 

I tried Gerald’s suggestion about making sure the program I am working with is completely closed using the task manager, but had no luck.

 

I couldn’t find the program listed in the task manager itself, which to me, means it should already be closed.

 

I also looked in the system tray, but couldn’t find it there either, but perhaps I’m not looking in the right spot.  If someone could tell me where to look for any open programs in the system tray, that would be appreciated.

 

Why the program still won’t re-open, unless I completely shut down and re-boot my computer remains a mystery to me.

 

Once again, I’m using Windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated No Luck With Closing Program Via Task Manager

Tom Behler
 

Hello again, everyone.

 

I tried Gerald’s suggestion about making sure the program I am working with is completely closed using the task manager, but had no luck.

 

I couldn’t find the program listed in the task manager itself, which to me, means it should already be closed.

 

I also looked in the system tray, but couldn’t find it there either, but perhaps I’m not looking in the right spot.  If someone could tell me where to look for any open programs in the system tray, that would be appreciated.

 

Why the program still won’t re-open, unless I completely shut down and re-boot my computer remains a mystery to me.

 

Once again, I’m using Windows 10 and the latest version of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Tom Behler

 


moderated Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

JM Casey
 

It’s obviously completely system dependent. One might say you can still blame Mozilla for not testing on a greater number of configurations – but well, they don’t actually have the kind of resources that Google, oneo f the bigest tech companies going currently, has – but they have the possible advantage of being more user-oriented than Google and not exclusively bottom-line oriented.

Anyway, works fine here with my rather old Jaws version. Lol

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: March 3, 2021 08:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

I have no issues nor complaints with Firefox. With all browsers and last 3-versions of Jaws, not one problem.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Holding grudges in this environment will leave you with nothing that works.

 

CH

 

On 3/2/2021 18:00, Randy Barnett wrote:

It was the switch to Quantum that did it for me. They actually compared a screenreader to a virus... In some ways that may be true but the way the screwed up accessibility during that time did it for me. too many alternitives.

On 3/2/2021 2:10 PM, Chris Hill wrote:

I've only had one real problem in the last year and it was fixed with a new version of JFW.  I like the facebook container extension for firefox, and the way its menus work.  If it could chromecast, I'd use it for everything.

 

 

On 3/2/2021 13:47, Randy Barnett wrote:

This doesn't happen to me. I also gave up on firefox. It just isn't worth the hassle they keep giving Jaws.

On 3/2/2021 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I use Microsoft Edge as my default but notice one thing I like better about Firefox.

With Edge, I do a search, and get the results.  I activate the link I want in the results, and I have to activate it a second time to actually get to the page.

With Firefox, I am on the desired page after the first link activation.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

This is why I have pretty much abandoned Firefox, and now use Google Chrome as my main internet browser with Jaws.

 

I still have Firefox on my computers, but it is clearly my second choice.  I also find the constant updates quite anoying.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Hello,

 

I have had the same issue happen with both 2020 and 2021. I can initially navigate to a page, however, in the instance of Google, or another website that I am testing, when I enter text into a search field and do a search. The page loads and JAWS does not read anything, and indicates that there are no headings and links on the page, which is not possible.

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Well it would help if you told us what version of JAWS your running. I'm assuming your running the current version which is 86?

On 3/2/2021 10:53 AM, Joe DiNero wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have a question as I have not used Firefox in several weeks. There was an update this morning for Firefox, and since then JAWS is not reading pages properly, in fact, with the exception of the main Google page, it does not read any content at all. Is anyone else experiencing this?

 

Thanks,

Joe


moderated Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

Rick Mladek
 

I have no issues nor complaints with Firefox. With all browsers and last 3-versions of Jaws, not one problem.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Holding grudges in this environment will leave you with nothing that works.

 

CH

 

On 3/2/2021 18:00, Randy Barnett wrote:

It was the switch to Quantum that did it for me. They actually compared a screenreader to a virus... In some ways that may be true but the way the screwed up accessibility during that time did it for me. too many alternitives.

On 3/2/2021 2:10 PM, Chris Hill wrote:

I've only had one real problem in the last year and it was fixed with a new version of JFW.  I like the facebook container extension for firefox, and the way its menus work.  If it could chromecast, I'd use it for everything.

 

 

On 3/2/2021 13:47, Randy Barnett wrote:

This doesn't happen to me. I also gave up on firefox. It just isn't worth the hassle they keep giving Jaws.

On 3/2/2021 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I use Microsoft Edge as my default but notice one thing I like better about Firefox.

With Edge, I do a search, and get the results.  I activate the link I want in the results, and I have to activate it a second time to actually get to the page.

With Firefox, I am on the desired page after the first link activation.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

This is why I have pretty much abandoned Firefox, and now use Google Chrome as my main internet browser with Jaws.

 

I still have Firefox on my computers, but it is clearly my second choice.  I also find the constant updates quite anoying.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Hello,

 

I have had the same issue happen with both 2020 and 2021. I can initially navigate to a page, however, in the instance of Google, or another website that I am testing, when I enter text into a search field and do a search. The page loads and JAWS does not read anything, and indicates that there are no headings and links on the page, which is not possible.

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Well it would help if you told us what version of JAWS your running. I'm assuming your running the current version which is 86?

On 3/2/2021 10:53 AM, Joe DiNero wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have a question as I have not used Firefox in several weeks. There was an update this morning for Firefox, and since then JAWS is not reading pages properly, in fact, with the exception of the main Google page, it does not read any content at all. Is anyone else experiencing this?

 

Thanks,

Joe


moderated Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

Chris Hill
 

Holding grudges in this environment will leave you with nothing that works.


CH


On 3/2/2021 18:00, Randy Barnett wrote:

It was the switch to Quantum that did it for me. They actually compared a screenreader to a virus... In some ways that may be true but the way the screwed up accessibility during that time did it for me. too many alternitives.

On 3/2/2021 2:10 PM, Chris Hill wrote:

I've only had one real problem in the last year and it was fixed with a new version of JFW.  I like the facebook container extension for firefox, and the way its menus work.  If it could chromecast, I'd use it for everything.



On 3/2/2021 13:47, Randy Barnett wrote:

This doesn't happen to me. I also gave up on firefox. It just isn't worth the hassle they keep giving Jaws.

On 3/2/2021 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I use Microsoft Edge as my default but notice one thing I like better about Firefox.

With Edge, I do a search, and get the results.  I activate the link I want in the results, and I have to activate it a second time to actually get to the page.

With Firefox, I am on the desired page after the first link activation.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

This is why I have pretty much abandoned Firefox, and now use Google Chrome as my main internet browser with Jaws.

 

I still have Firefox on my computers, but it is clearly my second choice.  I also find the constant updates quite anoying.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Hello,

 

I have had the same issue happen with both 2020 and 2021. I can initially navigate to a page, however, in the instance of Google, or another website that I am testing, when I enter text into a search field and do a search. The page loads and JAWS does not read anything, and indicates that there are no headings and links on the page, which is not possible.

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Well it would help if you told us what version of JAWS your running. I'm assuming your running the current version which is 86?

On 3/2/2021 10:53 AM, Joe DiNero wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have a question as I have not used Firefox in several weeks. There was an update this morning for Firefox, and since then JAWS is not reading pages properly, in fact, with the exception of the main Google page, it does not read any content at all. Is anyone else experiencing this?

 

Thanks,

Joe


moderated Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and latest Jaws

Leo
 

Hello Jim,

I’m using Jaws February 2021, and office 2019, but I haven’t come across the problem you described in outlook. However,

I’m having a kind of  a similar problem with Word. When I’m working in a document, all of a sudden, Jaws does not respond anymore, and  if I wait for Jaws to respond, after few second, Word crashes. So, when this happens, I quickly restart Jaws using control plus alt plus J. I can’t really tell if Jaws is causing the problem since  I haven’t tried out NVDA, but yesterday an update for Office was released, and I expected to fixed  this problem, but it didn’t…

 

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 5:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Microsoft Office 2019 and latest Jaws

 

Heya folks,

 

Was just wondering if this is happening to anybody else with Microsoft Office 2019 and latest Jaws.

 

One out of 4 times I exit out of Outlook 2019, Outlook crashes and then pops up the dialog box to choose my email account I want loaded again. I have tested this with NVDA a couple of times and there’s no Outlook 2019 crash when using that screen reader.

 

Anybody else encounting this? Initially I thought an Outlook update may fix it but am more thinking now its Jaws causing it.

 

Am using windows 10 Pro, I’ve also created a new database as suggested in a forum but Outlook still crashes the same.

 

Any input or feedback from other Office 2019 users will be appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

 

 


moderated Re: battery question

Soronel Haetir
 

Since most of the time when I unplug it's by accident (just from
moving around) I wrote a little program that monitors the discharge
state and warns me on the switch rather than when the charge is just
about gone.

On 3/2/21, Lori Lynn <grandma.lori@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've been using my laptop on the battery rather than plugged in for a long
time. When the Windows message pops up with the low battery warning JAWS
always reads it. I have never had to change any windows or JAWS settings to
do this. My laptop is a Del, about 5 years old running Windows 10 and JAWS
21. I hope this helps.

Lori Lynn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only charge
it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the battery power I'm
wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is getting low or will I just
have to keep checking? I'm using the latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks
Madison











--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: battery question

Lori Lynn
 

I've been using my laptop on the battery rather than plugged in for a long time. When the Windows message pops up with the low battery warning JAWS always reads it. I have never had to change any windows or JAWS settings to do this. My laptop is a Del, about 5 years old running Windows 10 and JAWS 21. I hope this helps.

Lori Lynn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 12:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only charge it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the battery power I'm wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is getting low or will I just have to keep checking? I'm using the latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison


moderated Re: battery question

Randy Barnett
 

Yes that is true for IPhones.

On 3/2/2021 4:46 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I think that when they are plugged in all the time, the device manages the
battery properly.
I had a Dell laptop on a docking station at work, and rarely got taken off
the dock, and when I did, the battery did well.
For example, Humanware recommended, with the trekker breeze, to keep it
plugged in all the time by the window to maintain the connection to the
satellites.
The nickel cadmium, and possibly the nickel metal hydrates as well had what
was called a memory, and if you didn't discharge them all the way, they
retained the partial charge getting to full as the capacity of the battery.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Barnett" <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: battery question


This is not true anymore. Lithium ion batteries dont have a memory. It
is just the opposite.Keeping a Lithium Ion battery at 100% all the time
is not good for it.

On 3/2/2021 3:46 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
And note that this whole thing is a bad idea, Each time you run a
battery low (even if not to 0) the less charge it will be able to take
and so you will get less running time. Much better to run plugged in
if that is at all possible.

On 3/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
There's a little program called Stascom that you can run in the
background
that yu can set to notify you of every 20% decrease of battery useage.
It'll also notify you of battery charging in 20%increments.

This little program has all kinds of neat features but, the one I like
the
most is you can set it to automatically maximize whatever window that
comes

into focus. Check it out below.


https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

What to know before installing the program

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for
installation

instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the
program
familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable
list of 5 items
• Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute status and low
volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5 and 100 percent;
• day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume levels and time
slots

customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title
exceptions;
• time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the quarter hour,
chime

with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option to
specify user preferred chime sounds;
• all automated functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed
configuration options available to suit individual needs.
list end

Individual hot keys for the following features
list of 10 items
• Open user guide in default browser;
• generate summary report of user settings;
• configuration window to specify user specific preferences for all
features;
• temporarily unload program from memory;
• audio mixer input and output details;
• password generator, unique 10 character very strong password with each
keystroke;
• calculation of word count on selected text in any editor or virtual
buffer

rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and
applications;
• Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5 percent
increments,

ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired.
Manual check for updates option available;
• support for multiple user profiles on one system;
• status messages and time announcements via user preferred SAPI5 engine;
• user-friendly interface for changing SAPI5 voice parameters;
• support for same SAPI5 engine used with screen reader and program
messages;
• optimised for NVDA screen reader;
• included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji symbols;
• small footprint;
• comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: battery question


Jaws won't tell you unless someone has written a script, but Windows can
alert you if you go in the sound scheme settings, and make sure a sound
file

that you can actually hear is connected to the appropriate events, like
Critical battery and I think there is a low battery.
You just need to go through the events and find the appropriate ones for
your needs.


Richard

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when I was young."
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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:51 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about jaws specifically (I only use NVDA on my laptop) but
Windows should tell you when your battery is low. It may not give you a
*huge* amount of time/warning. Mine doesn't -- it's an old Lenovo
Thinkpad
and I even got a supposedly fresh battery for it, but never have I ever
gottren satisfactory battery life out of the thing.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: March 2, 2021 01:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only
charge
it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the battery power
I'm
wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is getting low or will I
just
have to keep checking? I'm using the latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks
Madison
























moderated Re: battery question

Richard Turner
 

Here is an article I just found that may be useful, or not, you decide.
The care and feeding of Li-Ion batteries
by William Jones in User Support , in Developer on November 2, 2007, 8:39 AM PST
Lithium-Ion—or Li-Ion—batteries are in everything, and while they may not last forever, they'll benefit from a little tender loving care. This time, five strategies that will help your users get the most out of the rechargeable batteries in their laptops and portable devices.

Device manufacturers categorize batteries as "consumables." They're expected to wear out; it's how they do what they do. The warranties provided by computer companies usually have different coverage terms for a laptop's battery than for the computer's other components. Even if you take the best possible care of your battery, its performance will degrade over time, and I've found that batteries older than two or three years aren't good for much runtime at all.

Accept the fact that your battery won't last forever, no matter what.
Oxidation in the cells can prevent an old battery from discharging properly, so even when left on a shelf, a battery's lifespan shortens with time. That doesn't mean that there aren't some steps that you can take to ensure the Li-Ion batteries in your laptop or cell phone last as long as possible.

Batteries are made to be used, so use them.
Just like couch potatoes, batteries need exercise. The chemicals in Lithium-Ion batteries respond best to regular recharging. So if you have a laptop, don't keep it plugged in all the time; go ahead and let it drain to about 40 or 50 percent of capacity, and then recharge your computer.

The life of a Lithium-Ion battery can be measured in charge cycles. A charge cycle occurs when 100% of a battery's capacity is used. Let's say you use 50% of your laptop's battery one day, charge it overnight, and then you use 50% of the battery again the next day. Even after charging it back up again, you'll have only had one charge cycle occur. Most laptop batteries are rated for a useful life of at least 300-500 charge cycles, but high-quality, properly maintained batteries can retain up to 80% of their original life, even after 300 cycles.

Periodically calibrate your battery.
Most batteries that have a "fuel gauge", like those in laptops, should be periodically discharged to zero. This can be accomplished simply by letting your computer run until it reports a low-battery state and suspends itself. (Do not let your computer deep discharge, as I'll explain in the next item.)

The gauge that measures the remaining power in your laptop is based on circuitry integrated into the battery that approximates the effectiveness of the battery's chemical compounds. Over time, a discrepancy can develop between the capacity that the internal circuitry expects the battery to have and what the battery can actually provide. Letting your computer run down to zero every month or so can recalibrate the battery's circuitry, and keep your computer's estimates of its remaining life accurate.

Don't practice so-called deep discharges.
Most laptops will suspend operation if the battery drains too low. Even if your computer goes to sleep, though, most batteries that are in good working order will still have a reserve charge available. This reserve will hold the computer's working memory in state for a little while. A deep discharge has occurred when even that percentage of reserve power is used up. The computer will have turned off completely, and sometimes you'll notice that it will have lost track of the correct date and time. Deep discharges will strain your batteries, so try to charge them frequently.

Avoid exposing your battery to heat (when possible).
Heat can overexcite the chemicals in your battery, shortening its overall lifespan. In fact, it's been speculated that the biggest cause of early battery expiration is the heat that batteries can be exposed to when they're stored in computers that are running off AC power. Laptops -- especially modern multi-core machines -- can get very hot when they're plugged in, easily over 100 degrees Fahrenheit. That's hot enough that extended exposure will negatively affect your battery. If you want to be really protective, there's nothing saying that you can't pop the battery out of your laptop if you're going to be within reach of a power outlet for a while.

There may be times that you can't help but expose your laptop battery to heat; you may live in a warm climate, for instance. You can, however, try and avoid exacerbating the issue. Make sure your laptop is well ventilated and that you're not operating it on a surface that retains heat, even when you're not plugged into mains power.

Store your batteries properly.
If your laptop or portable device isn't going to be used for a while, you should remove its Lithium-Ion battery, if possible. Even if the battery can't be separated from the device, it should be stored in a cool environment at about one-half charge. Cool temperature is recommended by experts because that can slow the natural discharge that batteries will undergo even when they're disconnected from their device.

I've seen some people go even further and recommend that spare batteries be stored in the refrigerator. I don't think this is a very good idea; I'm concerned about condensation that might build up. Don't put your batteries on ice, but keep them out of the sun.

Ultimately, I believe that buying spare Li-Ion batteries is a losing game, because the batteries start degrading as soon as they're manufactured. Usually those spare batteries spend most of their time sitting in a charger, losing useful life. If you need to be really mobile, you're better off purchasing an adapter cable you can use with the power sources available in planes, trains, or autos. And, of
course, by taking good care of the battery you already have.

From: https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/user-support/the-care-and-feeding-of-li-ion-batteries/


Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: battery question

I think that when they are plugged in all the time, the device manages the battery properly.
I had a Dell laptop on a docking station at work, and rarely got taken off the dock, and when I did, the battery did well.
For example, Humanware recommended, with the trekker breeze, to keep it plugged in all the time by the window to maintain the connection to the satellites.
The nickel cadmium, and possibly the nickel metal hydrates as well had what was called a memory, and if you didn't discharge them all the way, they retained the partial charge getting to full as the capacity of the battery.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Barnett" <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: battery question


This is not true anymore. Lithium ion batteries dont have a memory. It is just the opposite.Keeping a Lithium Ion battery at 100% all the time is not good for it.

On 3/2/2021 3:46 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
And note that this whole thing is a bad idea, Each time you run a
battery low (even if not to 0) the less charge it will be able to take
and so you will get less running time. Much better to run plugged in
if that is at all possible.

On 3/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
There's a little program called Stascom that you can run in the
background that yu can set to notify you of every 20% decrease of
battery useage.
It'll also notify you of battery charging in 20%increments.

This little program has all kinds of neat features but, the one I
like the most is you can set it to automatically maximize whatever
window that comes

into focus. Check it out below.


https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
stascom.co.za%2Fstascom.html%23content&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd1dbbb70
cd3a4f1f74cf08d8ddddb2ee%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7
C637503291539475404%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI
joiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=z5Y5%2F67p
EBKDH1rrltAvFWBTMmbEAnarde0nl7DYtqI%3D&amp;reserved=0

What to know before installing the program

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for
installation

instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the
program familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in
2017.1.7.

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable list of
5 items • Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute
status and low volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5
and 100 percent; • day / night volume adjustment on a schedule,
volume levels and time slots

customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title
exceptions; • time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the
quarter hour, chime

with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable.
Option to specify user preferred chime sounds; • all automated
functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed configuration
options available to suit individual needs.
list end

Individual hot keys for the following features list of 10 items •
Open user guide in default browser; • generate summary report of user
settings; • configuration window to specify user specific preferences
for all features; • temporarily unload program from memory; • audio
mixer input and output details; • password generator, unique 10
character very strong password with each keystroke; • calculation of
word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer

rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings
and applications; • Increasing and decreasing master volume output
with 5 percent increments,

ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired.
Manual check for updates option available; • support for multiple
user profiles on one system; • status messages and time announcements
via user preferred SAPI5 engine; • user-friendly interface for
changing SAPI5 voice parameters; • support for same SAPI5 engine used
with screen reader and program messages; • optimised for NVDA screen
reader; • included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji
symbols; • small footprint; • comprehensive user guide in HTML
format.
list end



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: battery question


Jaws won't tell you unless someone has written a script, but Windows
can alert you if you go in the sound scheme settings, and make sure a
sound file

that you can actually hear is connected to the appropriate events,
like Critical battery and I think there is a low battery.
You just need to go through the events and find the appropriate ones
for your needs.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped
in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what
my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:51 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about jaws specifically (I only use NVDA on my laptop)
but Windows should tell you when your battery is low. It may not
give you a
*huge* amount of time/warning. Mine doesn't -- it's an old Lenovo
Thinkpad and I even got a supposedly fresh battery for it, but never
have I ever gottren satisfactory battery life out of the thing.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: March 2, 2021 01:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only
charge it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the
battery power I'm wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is
getting low or will I just have to keep checking? I'm using the
latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison



















moderated Re: battery question

Glenn / Lenny
 

I think that when they are plugged in all the time, the device manages the
battery properly.
I had a Dell laptop on a docking station at work, and rarely got taken off
the dock, and when I did, the battery did well.
For example, Humanware recommended, with the trekker breeze, to keep it
plugged in all the time by the window to maintain the connection to the
satellites.
The nickel cadmium, and possibly the nickel metal hydrates as well had what
was called a memory, and if you didn't discharge them all the way, they
retained the partial charge getting to full as the capacity of the battery.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Barnett" <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: battery question


This is not true anymore. Lithium ion batteries dont have a memory. It
is just the opposite.Keeping a Lithium Ion battery at 100% all the time
is not good for it.

On 3/2/2021 3:46 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
And note that this whole thing is a bad idea, Each time you run a
battery low (even if not to 0) the less charge it will be able to take
and so you will get less running time. Much better to run plugged in
if that is at all possible.

On 3/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
There's a little program called Stascom that you can run in the
background
that yu can set to notify you of every 20% decrease of battery useage.
It'll also notify you of battery charging in 20%increments.

This little program has all kinds of neat features but, the one I like
the
most is you can set it to automatically maximize whatever window that
comes

into focus. Check it out below.


https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

What to know before installing the program

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for
installation

instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the
program
familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable
list of 5 items
• Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute status and low
volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5 and 100 percent;
• day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume levels and time
slots

customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title
exceptions;
• time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the quarter hour,
chime

with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option to
specify user preferred chime sounds;
• all automated functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed
configuration options available to suit individual needs.
list end

Individual hot keys for the following features
list of 10 items
• Open user guide in default browser;
• generate summary report of user settings;
• configuration window to specify user specific preferences for all
features;
• temporarily unload program from memory;
• audio mixer input and output details;
• password generator, unique 10 character very strong password with each
keystroke;
• calculation of word count on selected text in any editor or virtual
buffer

rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and
applications;
• Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5 percent
increments,

ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired.
Manual check for updates option available;
• support for multiple user profiles on one system;
• status messages and time announcements via user preferred SAPI5 engine;
• user-friendly interface for changing SAPI5 voice parameters;
• support for same SAPI5 engine used with screen reader and program
messages;
• optimised for NVDA screen reader;
• included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji symbols;
• small footprint;
• comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: battery question


Jaws won't tell you unless someone has written a script, but Windows can
alert you if you go in the sound scheme settings, and make sure a sound
file

that you can actually hear is connected to the appropriate events, like
Critical battery and I think there is a low battery.
You just need to go through the events and find the appropriate ones for
your needs.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:51 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about jaws specifically (I only use NVDA on my laptop) but
Windows should tell you when your battery is low. It may not give you a
*huge* amount of time/warning. Mine doesn't -- it's an old Lenovo
Thinkpad
and I even got a supposedly fresh battery for it, but never have I ever
gottren satisfactory battery life out of the thing.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: March 2, 2021 01:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only
charge
it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the battery power
I'm
wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is getting low or will I
just
have to keep checking? I'm using the latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks
Madison



















moderated Re: battery question

Randy Barnett
 

This is not true anymore. Lithium ion batteries dont have a memory. It is just the opposite.Keeping a  Lithium Ion battery at 100% all the time is not good for it.

On 3/2/2021 3:46 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
And note that this whole thing is a bad idea, Each time you run a
battery low (even if not to 0) the less charge it will be able to take
and so you will get less running time. Much better to run plugged in
if that is at all possible.

On 3/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
There's a little program called Stascom that you can run in the background
that yu can set to notify you of every 20% decrease of battery useage.
It'll also notify you of battery charging in 20%increments.

This little program has all kinds of neat features but, the one I like the
most is you can set it to automatically maximize whatever window that comes

into focus. Check it out below.


https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

What to know before installing the program

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for installation

instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the program
familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable
list of 5 items
• Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute status and low
volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5 and 100 percent;
• day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume levels and time slots

customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title
exceptions;
• time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the quarter hour, chime

with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option to
specify user preferred chime sounds;
• all automated functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed
configuration options available to suit individual needs.
list end

Individual hot keys for the following features
list of 10 items
• Open user guide in default browser;
• generate summary report of user settings;
• configuration window to specify user specific preferences for all
features;
• temporarily unload program from memory;
• audio mixer input and output details;
• password generator, unique 10 character very strong password with each
keystroke;
• calculation of word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer

rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and
applications;
• Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5 percent increments,

ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired.
Manual check for updates option available;
• support for multiple user profiles on one system;
• status messages and time announcements via user preferred SAPI5 engine;
• user-friendly interface for changing SAPI5 voice parameters;
• support for same SAPI5 engine used with screen reader and program
messages;
• optimised for NVDA screen reader;
• included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji symbols;
• small footprint;
• comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: battery question


Jaws won't tell you unless someone has written a script, but Windows can
alert you if you go in the sound scheme settings, and make sure a sound file

that you can actually hear is connected to the appropriate events, like
Critical battery and I think there is a low battery.
You just need to go through the events and find the appropriate ones for
your needs.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:51 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about jaws specifically (I only use NVDA on my laptop) but
Windows should tell you when your battery is low. It may not give you a
*huge* amount of time/warning. Mine doesn't -- it's an old Lenovo
Thinkpad
and I even got a supposedly fresh battery for it, but never have I ever
gottren satisfactory battery life out of the thing.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: March 2, 2021 01:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only
charge
it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the battery power
I'm
wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is getting low or will I just
have to keep checking? I'm using the latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks
Madison



















moderated Re: battery question

Glenn / Lenny
 

Madison,
That is the case for older batteries, but I think that they are all lithium
batteries these days, and they have a limited number of charges and it may
be best to keep them plugged in all the time.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <madisonmartin463@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: battery question


I've heard that you should let it run low.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: March 2, 2021 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: battery question

And note that this whole thing is a bad idea, Each time you run a battery
low (even if not to 0) the less charge it will be able to take and so you
will get less running time. Much better to run plugged in if that is at all
possible.

On 3/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
There's a little program called Stascom that you can run in the
background that yu can set to notify you of every 20% decrease of battery
useage.
It'll also notify you of battery charging in 20%increments.

This little program has all kinds of neat features but, the one I like
the most is you can set it to automatically maximize whatever window
that comes

into focus. Check it out below.


https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

What to know before installing the program

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for
installation

instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the
program familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable list of
5 items • Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute
status and low volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5
and 100 percent; • day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume
levels and time slots

customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title
exceptions; • time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the
quarter hour, chime

with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option
to specify user preferred chime sounds; • all automated functions can
be enabled or disabled, with detailed configuration options available
to suit individual needs.
list end

Individual hot keys for the following features list of 10 items • Open
user guide in default browser; • generate summary report of user
settings; • configuration window to specify user specific preferences
for all features; • temporarily unload program from memory; • audio
mixer input and output details; • password generator, unique 10
character very strong password with each keystroke; • calculation of
word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer

rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and
applications; • Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5
percent increments,

ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired.
Manual check for updates option available; • support for multiple user
profiles on one system; • status messages and time announcements via
user preferred SAPI5 engine; • user-friendly interface for changing
SAPI5 voice parameters; • support for same SAPI5 engine used with
screen reader and program messages; • optimised for NVDA screen
reader; • included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji
symbols; • small footprint; • comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: battery question


Jaws won't tell you unless someone has written a script, but Windows
can alert you if you go in the sound scheme settings, and make sure a
sound file

that you can actually hear is connected to the appropriate events,
like Critical battery and I think there is a low battery.
You just need to go through the events and find the appropriate ones
for your needs.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in
a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:51 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about jaws specifically (I only use NVDA on my laptop)
but Windows should tell you when your battery is low. It may not give
you a
*huge* amount of time/warning. Mine doesn't -- it's an old Lenovo
Thinkpad and I even got a supposedly fresh battery for it, but never
have I ever gottren satisfactory battery life out of the thing.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: March 2, 2021 01:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only
charge it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the
battery power I'm wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is
getting low or will I just have to keep checking? I'm using the
latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: battery question

Madison Martin
 

I've heard that you should let it run low.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: March 2, 2021 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: battery question

And note that this whole thing is a bad idea, Each time you run a battery low (even if not to 0) the less charge it will be able to take and so you will get less running time. Much better to run plugged in if that is at all possible.

On 3/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
There's a little program called Stascom that you can run in the
background that yu can set to notify you of every 20% decrease of battery useage.
It'll also notify you of battery charging in 20%increments.

This little program has all kinds of neat features but, the one I like
the most is you can set it to automatically maximize whatever window
that comes

into focus. Check it out below.


https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

What to know before installing the program

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for
installation

instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the
program familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable list of
5 items • Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute
status and low volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5
and 100 percent; • day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume
levels and time slots

customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title
exceptions; • time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the
quarter hour, chime

with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option
to specify user preferred chime sounds; • all automated functions can
be enabled or disabled, with detailed configuration options available
to suit individual needs.
list end

Individual hot keys for the following features list of 10 items • Open
user guide in default browser; • generate summary report of user
settings; • configuration window to specify user specific preferences
for all features; • temporarily unload program from memory; • audio
mixer input and output details; • password generator, unique 10
character very strong password with each keystroke; • calculation of
word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer

rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and
applications; • Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5
percent increments,

ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired.
Manual check for updates option available; • support for multiple user
profiles on one system; • status messages and time announcements via
user preferred SAPI5 engine; • user-friendly interface for changing
SAPI5 voice parameters; • support for same SAPI5 engine used with
screen reader and program messages; • optimised for NVDA screen
reader; • included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji
symbols; • small footprint; • comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: battery question


Jaws won't tell you unless someone has written a script, but Windows
can alert you if you go in the sound scheme settings, and make sure a
sound file

that you can actually hear is connected to the appropriate events,
like Critical battery and I think there is a low battery.
You just need to go through the events and find the appropriate ones
for your needs.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in
a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:51 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about jaws specifically (I only use NVDA on my laptop)
but Windows should tell you when your battery is low. It may not give
you a
*huge* amount of time/warning. Mine doesn't -- it's an old Lenovo
Thinkpad and I even got a supposedly fresh battery for it, but never
have I ever gottren satisfactory battery life out of the thing.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: March 2, 2021 01:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only
charge it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the
battery power I'm wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is
getting low or will I just have to keep checking? I'm using the
latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

Randy Barnett
 

It was the switch to Quantum that did it for me. They actually compared a screenreader to a virus... In some ways that may be true but the way the screwed up accessibility during that time did it for me. too many alternitives.

On 3/2/2021 2:10 PM, Chris Hill wrote:

I've only had one real problem in the last year and it was fixed with a new version of JFW.  I like the facebook container extension for firefox, and the way its menus work.  If it could chromecast, I'd use it for everything.



On 3/2/2021 13:47, Randy Barnett wrote:

This doesn't happen to me. I also gave up on firefox. It just isn't worth the hassle they keep giving Jaws.

On 3/2/2021 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I use Microsoft Edge as my default but notice one thing I like better about Firefox.

With Edge, I do a search, and get the results.  I activate the link I want in the results, and I have to activate it a second time to actually get to the page.

With Firefox, I am on the desired page after the first link activation.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

This is why I have pretty much abandoned Firefox, and now use Google Chrome as my main internet browser with Jaws.

 

I still have Firefox on my computers, but it is clearly my second choice.  I also find the constant updates quite anoying.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Hello,

 

I have had the same issue happen with both 2020 and 2021. I can initially navigate to a page, however, in the instance of Google, or another website that I am testing, when I enter text into a search field and do a search. The page loads and JAWS does not read anything, and indicates that there are no headings and links on the page, which is not possible.

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Firefox (New Update)

 

Well it would help if you told us what version of JAWS your running. I'm assuming your running the current version which is 86?

On 3/2/2021 10:53 AM, Joe DiNero wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have a question as I have not used Firefox in several weeks. There was an update this morning for Firefox, and since then JAWS is not reading pages properly, in fact, with the exception of the main Google page, it does not read any content at all. Is anyone else experiencing this?

 

Thanks,

Joe


moderated Re: battery question

Soronel Haetir
 

And note that this whole thing is a bad idea, Each time you run a
battery low (even if not to 0) the less charge it will be able to take
and so you will get less running time. Much better to run plugged in
if that is at all possible.

On 3/2/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
There's a little program called Stascom that you can run in the background
that yu can set to notify you of every 20% decrease of battery useage.
It'll also notify you of battery charging in 20%increments.

This little program has all kinds of neat features but, the one I like the
most is you can set it to automatically maximize whatever window that comes

into focus. Check it out below.


https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

What to know before installing the program

Please refer to the user guide, see the link further down, for installation

instructions. It is recommended that users of older versions of the program
familiarise themselves with the changes implemented in 2017.1.7.

SUMMARY OF PROGRAM FEATURES
Automation for the following tasks, all features customisable
list of 5 items
• Sound recovery on default audio device, preventing mute status and low
volume. Recovery volume level configurable between 5 and 100 percent;
• day / night volume adjustment on a schedule, volume levels and time slots

customisable;
• maximising of windows, option available for specifying window title
exceptions;
• time announcements on the hour, on the half and on the quarter hour, chime

with speech, chime only or disabled, all 24 hours configurable. Option to
specify user preferred chime sounds;
• all automated functions can be enabled or disabled, with detailed
configuration options available to suit individual needs.
list end

Individual hot keys for the following features
list of 10 items
• Open user guide in default browser;
• generate summary report of user settings;
• configuration window to specify user specific preferences for all
features;
• temporarily unload program from memory;
• audio mixer input and output details;
• password generator, unique 10 character very strong password with each
keystroke;
• calculation of word count on selected text in any editor or virtual buffer

rendered text;
• extensive alphabetic list of Windows basic and advanced settings and
applications;
• Increasing and decreasing master volume output with 5 percent increments,

ascending / descending audio tones to indicate new level.
• Easily insert accented and other special characters in any editor.
list end

General program characteristics
list of 9 items
• Automatic online check for program updates, can be disabled if desired.
Manual check for updates option available;
• support for multiple user profiles on one system;
• status messages and time announcements via user preferred SAPI5 engine;
• user-friendly interface for changing SAPI5 voice parameters;
• support for same SAPI5 engine used with screen reader and program
messages;
• optimised for NVDA screen reader;
• included dictionary file for NVDA to translate emoji symbols;
• small footprint;
• comprehensive user guide in HTML format.
list end



Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: battery question


Jaws won't tell you unless someone has written a script, but Windows can
alert you if you go in the sound scheme settings, and make sure a sound file

that you can actually hear is connected to the appropriate events, like
Critical battery and I think there is a low battery.
You just need to go through the events and find the appropriate ones for
your needs.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:51 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about jaws specifically (I only use NVDA on my laptop) but
Windows should tell you when your battery is low. It may not give you a
*huge* amount of time/warning. Mine doesn't -- it's an old Lenovo
Thinkpad
and I even got a supposedly fresh battery for it, but never have I ever
gottren satisfactory battery life out of the thing.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: March 2, 2021 01:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: battery question

Hi all,
I've decided that I should start using my laptop unplugged and only
charge
it when I'm not using it, and well I know how to check the battery power
I'm
wondering will Jaws tell me when my battery is getting low or will I just
have to keep checking? I'm using the latest Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks
Madison



















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Microsoft Office 2019 and latest Jaws

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

 

Was just wondering if this is happening to anybody else with Microsoft Office 2019 and latest Jaws.

 

One out of 4 times I exit out of Outlook 2019, Outlook crashes and then pops up the dialog box to choose my email account I want loaded again. I have tested this with NVDA a couple of times and there’s no Outlook 2019 crash when using that screen reader.

 

Anybody else encounting this? Initially I thought an Outlook update may fix it but am more thinking now its Jaws causing it.

 

Am using windows 10 Pro, I’ve also created a new database as suggested in a forum but Outlook still crashes the same.

 

Any input or feedback from other Office 2019 users will be appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

 

 

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