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moderated Re: Creating a link

Van Lant, Robin
 

Shirley,

I just did a very similar thing with a large Word document of JAWS shortcuts and help information.  I first had the document that I’ve been adding to over time. I added headings, which I planned to use to jump around with JAWS quick key navigation turned on.  I then took someone’s suggestion and used Word’s feature to build a table of contents. Each of these line items in the table of contents is a hyperlink to the respective heading. 

 

To break it down a bit more, I set up my document with level one headings to separate notes on using JAWS with various software programs, such as Excel. I then used level 3 headings to categorize sections of notes under that Excel heading.  Select the text  you want to make a heading and use Control Alt 1 for a level 1 heading, Control Alt 2 for level 2 and, Control Alt 3 or level 3 headings.  Once you have those in place, go to the References ribbon. The first option on the lower ribbon is for Table of Contents and I used the first choice on that drop down to create an automatic table of contents.  I have found that the table does not automatically update if I add a new heading on the document. So far, it seems that the best way to update the table of contents is to put focus back in the table of contents and use that same button on the References ribbon.

 

You may also want to save the file as a PDF when you send it to your family, ensuring that they don’t’ accidentally tweak your work.

 

Kudos to you for  the work on this. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a link

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Hi Richard.

Thanks. The link you sent makes sense, but I’m not sure I want to go to the trouble. I may try it first, just to see if I can. Most likely, I’ll end up going to plan B.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a link

 

Here is a link to an explanation of how to do this. Hopefully it will make enough sense.

 

https://www.extendoffice.com/documents/word/5432-word-table-of-content-link-to-page.html

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Feb 19, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



Hi all,

 

This may sound like a silly request from a non-tech JAWS user, but here goes: Is it possible for me to create a link in a word document that will take the person reading it  to another place in that same word document. In other words, I’d like to create a same-page link.

 

I’m trying to write our family history, and my grown children don’t want it printed. They want me to send them the document so they can simply read it online. I have a table of contents and would like to create a link from each content to the section it references. Is this too convoluted, or is it simple enough for me to accomplish?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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moderated Re: reading without ads

Mario
 

Leonard, does the Imersiv Reader work well, or does it let some ads remain? also, I'd like to know if it can eliminate graphics?

-------- Original Message --------
From: leonard morris [mailto:lmorris1953@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 2:58 PM
Subject: reading without ads
I am not sure about Chrome or Firefox. However, Microsoft Edge has a
feature called emersive reader. You click the f9 key and you can either
scroll down to the beginning of an article and read using the screen
reader or click on the read outloud feature and a female TTS voice will
read the article without the adds. You should be able to copy and paste
the article if you want to do so.
On 2/22/2021 2:01 AM, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.


moderated Re: jaws 2021 problems.

Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...>
 

HiSieghard,

 

Of course, as requested, I ran the report, sent it to them, provided my email and followed up to insure that they got it.

As I am sure you have seen from my previous emails, a technical rep in vespero itself admitted to having this problem also.

I would say, that for the vast majority of people on this forum, they have windows home edition, which as you know, does not have the group policy editor as part of it.

Correct me if I am wrong.

As a result, if this problem is related to group policies, which clearly it is not, there would be no way to fix it on a home edition.

You are right in that unloading and reloading is not a huge thing, but if I am paying for a product, I expect it to work correctly.

There is absolutely no excuse for poor development of a product!!

I was a software developer for over 25 years, and when a problem was reported to me, I either fixed it directly, or it was fixed in the next release of the software.

 

Regards and stay safe,

 

pat

 

Sent from my gmail account.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday 21 February 2021 16:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2021 problems.

 

Hopefully you were able to run the technical support tool so Jaws can in fact try and get a better handle on this, after all, if it affects so few people those who are affected need to do their part.

Of course unloading and reloading Jaws is a work-around which doesn't require you to go out of your way that much, another one might be to run Narrator when Windows starts, i.e. at the logon screen, and to see if that fixes the issue.

A few years ago one of my 4 computers at my store (it was an identical model to one of my others) would not let me read the Windows Start menu with Jaws, nor Settings or any Windows apps like Calculator. If I went into settings Jaws would just be absolutely silent, visually I could move through the categories and if I arrowed right, for example, 3 times and pressed enter Network and Internet would open, but as I said, Jaws would not make a peep.

This went on for over a year and any time I had to do anything in Settings on that computer I had to unload Jaws and use Narrator. Then at one point I read something on a list, can't remember which one, where somebody had this issue and they had figured out the solution. The problem was that for some reason a setting in Group Policy Editor (this was a Windows pro version) had been changed. It took me all of 20 seconds to change it back and from then on all was well, Jaws read everything fine again. I may have made a note somewhere what this was, but I can't remember now and don't feel like digging around to look it up, but this goes to show how one small little setting can make a huge difference and cause a pretty major headache for a very small number of people.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2021 problems.

 

Hi Mike,

 

Sorry, it was the original topic.

When jaws starts up, you cannot get at the menus.

You have to unload and reload it.

When jaws is set to start at the logon screen and to start for this user, insert+j or any other key is not available to get at the menus.

When you unload and reload it, it works just fine.

When I started the topic, I had a huge rant about it!!

You will see it from the start.

It doesn’t happen to everyone, in fact, I have only found two other people that it happens to.

Nevertheless, it is a bug, and should be fixed, given the amount of money we pay for the product.

As you can see from my previous post, this has been confirmed by Vispero.

 

Regards and stay safe,

 

Pat

 

 

Sent from my gmail account.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday 20 February 2021 12:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2021 problems.

 

It would be nice to know what problem is being talked about.  Refresher please?


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:16 AM

Subject: Re: jaws 2021 problems.

 

Hi,

success!!!!

you will see below, that after two versions of jaws, (2020 and 2021), vispero has eventually admitted, that this problem in fact, does exist.
apparently, they are looking into it.

below is the email i got from Cory jackson at vispero, after poking and prodding forever.

the squeaking wheel always gets the grease.

regards,

pat

email below:

Hello Patrick,
I find what you have discovered about this issue very intresting.
Would it be possible for you to run the technical support tool under the Jaws help menu in order to send us a report so that we can look in to this further?
This is not the first time I have seen the issue. I actually experience it myself.
Regards,
Cory Jackson


moderated Re: Looking for a Windows talking clock

Richard Turner
 

There is a Talking CooCoo clock on this Jaws scripts page:
http://jaws-users.com/scripts/


Richard

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"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 21, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:



Hi.

 

I had two of these, but now I don’t, thanks to everything on my laptop being sucked into a black hole, never to be seen again. I’d like something that does announcements, and every fifteen minutes would be good.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


moderated Looking for a Windows talking clock

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I had two of these, but now I don’t, thanks to everything on my laptop being sucked into a black hole, never to be seen again. I’d like something that does announcements, and every fifteen minutes would be good.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


moderated Re: microsoft edge download help

Mike B.
 

Hi again Jerry,
 
I forgot to add that you can also turn off progress bar updating in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, while in Edge.
With Edge open press, Insert + V, and under General options is the, Progress bar, setting.  Press the spacebar to toggle this between either spoken or silent.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 7:48 PM
Subject: microsoft edge download help

When I am downloading from microsoft edge I get an alert of the minutes that are left in the download. The problem the alert is announce verbally and interrupt anything I am doing on my computer. I have not been able to find any way to stop this verbal announcement. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to silent this alert. I am using windows 7 on my computer at this time and using jaws version 19. Thank you for your help.
 
Jerry
 


moderated Re: microsoft edge download help

Mike B.
 

Hi Jerry,
 
With Edge open press, Insert + 6, on the number row to open the Settings Center for this application.
Down arrow to, Users, and right arrow to open.
Down arrow 1 time to, Progress bar updates announcement..., now tap the spacebar to go through your choices and stop on your choice.
Tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 7:48 PM
Subject: microsoft edge download help

When I am downloading from microsoft edge I get an alert of the minutes that are left in the download. The problem the alert is announce verbally and interrupt anything I am doing on my computer. I have not been able to find any way to stop this verbal announcement. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to silent this alert. I am using windows 7 on my computer at this time and using jaws version 19. Thank you for your help.
 
Jerry
 


moderated microsoft edge download help

Jerry hathaway
 

When I am downloading from microsoft edge I get an alert of the minutes that are left in the download. The problem the alert is announce verbally and interrupt anything I am doing on my computer. I have not been able to find any way to stop this verbal announcement. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to silent this alert. I am using windows 7 on my computer at this time and using jaws version 19. Thank you for your help.
 
Jerry
 


moderated Re: reading without ads

Jason White
 

This scenario is one use case for the JAWS Flexible Web feature. I would suggest looking up the details in the JAWS Help Topics. I don't know whether there are any tutorials or associated documentation for it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, 21 February 2021 13:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading without ads

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


moderated Re: reading without ads

leonard morris
 

I am not sure about Chrome or Firefox. However, Microsoft Edge has a feature called emersive reader. You click the f9 key and you can either scroll down to the beginning of an article and read using the screen reader or click on the read outloud feature and a female TTS voice will read the article without the adds. You should be able to copy and paste the article if you want to do so.

On 2/22/2021 2:01 AM, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.



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moderated Re: Why does JAWS think the scripts for LibreOffice are "Symphony?"

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 05:35 PM, Jason White wrote:
I think the original program was StarOffice
-
It was.  I just decided to pick up at Symphony since it appeared that this was the point when the scripts originally came into being, and why they likely remain so named.

The Wikipedia page timeline shows StarOffice 1.0 through 5.2 between 1995 and somewhere between 2000 and 2001, when the fork to OpenOffice occurred.

The forking timeline that's on that page is great, if you can see it, but it would take many paragraphs of typing to try to write out what it shows graphically.
 
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moderated Re: Why does JAWS think the scripts for LibreOffice are "Symphony?"

Jason White
 

I think the original program was StarOffice, released by Sun Microsystems as OpenOffice, and then IBM created a proprietary version called Symphony. I expect the scripts were originally written for that version.

On 19/2/21 6:37 pm, JM Casey wrote:

It’s probably a generic set of scripts named for Lotus Symphony, a discontinued suite (I think) from IBM on which Libre and Open Office *may* have based some code.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: February 19, 2021 04:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Why does JAWS think the scripts for LibreOffice are "Symphony?"

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2020, Windows 10 and LibreOffice 7.1.  I wanted to adjust a particular setting while using LibreOffice.  Therefore I pressed JAWSKey+6.  When Settings Center opened, it thinks I am using the scripts for “Symphony.”  There is not a script set for LibreOffice, and I do not have “Symphony”; whatever that is.  Why is this?  How, or should, I go about creating a whole new settings scheme for a new application I will call “LibreOffice?"

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: reading without ads

Jim Pursley
 

Ditto. It seems to be the same reader available on Firefox, as /F9 initiates the reader there.

One little foible. The reader, at least the Immersive reader on Edge, don't always read an entire article. When the reader encounters an ad in mid article, the text stops there. the NYT has inl8ine ads in their articles. A minor thing, I think.Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads

Using edge, if you hit f9, you get the imersive reader which so far has worked great for me.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:06:52 -0500,
JM Casey wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>] OH, I don’t disagree with
anything you’ve said – except I guess I do feel some – not guilt maybe, but reservations. It’s not enough to stop me from using an ad blocker, but simultaneously I do feel a bit selfish for doing so sometimes. This is especially rue on youtube, where I just don’t get ads played, period. I know people who make revenue from their channels this way. I know a couple of guys who work in the newspaper industry and they say they are really caught between a rock and a hard place with this stuff – page hits just aren’t enough for these people. I don’t really know what tehh solution is, but for sure I am not going to struggle to the point of pain just to read what should be a simple webpage, and ads that play concurrently with your attempting to read an article etc do mess up screen-readers pretty badly sometimes – anything from slowing them down drastically to causing the reading position to jump around in unpredictable ways.



But, the war goes on! Yes, finding ways for ads to be far less intrusive would seem to solve a lot of everyone’s problems.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 21, 2021 03:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and
better ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.

-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking. Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page. In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media. Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation. Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits. But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download. And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it. Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere. If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with. Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

~ André Gide








[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
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moderated Re: reading without ads

John Covici
 

Using edge, if you hit f9, you get the imersive reader which so far
has worked great for me.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:06:52 -0500,
JM Casey wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
OH, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said – except I guess I do feel some – not guilt maybe, but reservations. It’s not enough to stop me from using an ad blocker, but simultaneously I do feel a bit selfish for doing so sometimes. This is especially rue on youtube, where I just don’t get ads played, period. I know people who make revenue from their channels this way. I know a couple of guys who work in the newspaper industry and they say they are really caught between a rock and a hard place with this stuff – page hits just aren’t enough for these people. I don’t really know what tehh solution is, but for sure I am not going to struggle to the point of pain just to read what should be a simple webpage, and ads that play concurrently with your attempting to read an article etc do mess up screen-readers pretty badly sometimes – anything from slowing them down drastically to causing the reading position to jump around in unpredictable ways.



But, the war goes on! Yes, finding ways for ads to be far less intrusive would seem to solve a lot of everyone’s problems.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 21, 2021 03:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.

-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking. Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page. In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media. Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation. Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits. But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download. And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it. Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere. If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with. Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

~ André Gide








[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: reading without ads

JM Casey
 

OH, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said – except I guess I do feel some – not guilt maybe, but reservations. It’s not enough to stop me from using an ad blocker, but simultaneously I do feel a bit selfish for doing so sometimes. This is especially rue on youtube, where I just don’t get ads played, period. I know people who make revenue from their channels this way. I know a couple of guys who work in the newspaper industry and they say they are really caught between a rock and a hard place with this stuff – page hits just aren’t enough for these people. I don’t really know what tehh solution is, but for sure I am not going to struggle to the point of pain just to read what should be a simple webpage, and ads that play concurrently with your attempting to read an article etc do mess up screen-readers pretty badly sometimes – anything from slowing them down drastically to causing the reading position to jump around in unpredictable ways.

 

But, the war goes on! Yes, finding ways for ads to be far less intrusive would seem to solve a lot of everyone’s problems.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 21, 2021 03:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.

-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking.  Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page.  In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media.  Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation.  Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits.  But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download.  And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it.  Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere.  If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with.  Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: reading without ads

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 02:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:
the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward.
-
And the ad-blockers keep adding new tricks to block as well.

I have never, for a single second, felt the slightest bit of guilt about ad blocking.  Content providers should be paid, much like newspapers were, for having placed the ad combined with a visit count for the page.  In print media, one was never guaranteed that what was circulated meant that there would be literal eyes-on for the advertising in that media.  Payment was for placement and the amount determined by circulation.  Now, in cyberspace, circulation can be calculated as page hits.  But the fact that someone visits a page should be enough.

I have every right not to download anything to my computer that I do not wish to download.  And given the intrusive nature of online advertising, that's why I block it.  Since I can see, the incessant blinking, scrolling, animation, etc., etc., that goes with online advertising is the worst kind of visual clutter that distracts from my primary purpose for being anywhere.  If much or most of it did not behave in that manner, I'd probably never have started using an ad blocker to begin with.  Stuff that just sits quietly in it's own little box that the content flows around can be easily ignored, but that style was getting increasingly infrequent.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Where can I get Silenzio?

Chris Hill
 

It was mentioned on Mosen's podcast and here is a link.

http://www.stefankiss.sk/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=112

On 2/21/2021 14:34, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

 

Something happened where things got corrupted so badly on my SSD, that nothing was there, Even Windows. I did have a backup, but some things weren’t there, including Silenzio. JAWS method of trying to prevent the beginning of words being cut off doesn’t work well on this Asus Zenbook Laptop. Silenzio works much better. I’ve looked on Google, with no luck. I’d appreciate learning where to get it.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


moderated Re: reading without ads

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 03:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
I prefer to send my data to nobody, or google, rather than microsoft.
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Not that not wanting to share data doesn't make sense, but in the context being discussed the data is already known.

Google is the worst among the "all knowing" software houses.  What you browse in Chrome is tracked, and analyzed to death.  Once you've loaded a page, they know you've been there.  They also know what's on that page.

I really don't know how much of something similar may or may not be going on with Edge, as I haven't kept up with it.  But by the time you're on a page they have what they want, if they want it.  An immersive reader does nothing beyond prettifying what's already on that webpage to make it easier to read.  And that doesn't matter what browser we're discussing.
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moderated Re: Where can I get Silenzio?

Francisco Salvador Crespo
 

Hello.

Here's the link:


best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 21 feb. 2021, a las 17:34, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> escribió:



Hi.

 

Something happened where things got corrupted so badly on my SSD, that nothing was there, Even Windows. I did have a backup, but some things weren’t there, including Silenzio. JAWS method of trying to prevent the beginning of words being cut off doesn’t work well on this Asus Zenbook Laptop. Silenzio works much better. I’ve looked on Google, with no luck. I’d appreciate learning where to get it.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


moderated Re: reading without ads

Chris Hill
 

I have never actually tried the emersive reader in edge.  I prefer to send my data to nobody, or google, rather than microsoft.

On 2/21/2021 12:28, Mario wrote:
so for Edge, I know there's the Imersive Reader that's built in. does that not work well?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 1:17 PM
Subject: reading without ads
Well, nothing is going to get them all, because most add-ons are looking
for things that don't come from the website your reading, and some will
host ads natively.  I've been using adblockplus for years on any browser
I can.  It stops a lot of them, especially if you set it to show no
ads.  You may have to turn it off, unfortunately, to view the pages on
some websites.  I keep edge without an ad blocker, and then if I need to
read a site that won't let me I just bring it up in edge.



CH


On 2/21/2021 12:02, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.










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