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moderated Re: Where can I get Silenzio?

Chris Hill
 

It was mentioned on Mosen's podcast and here is a link.

http://www.stefankiss.sk/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=112

On 2/21/2021 14:34, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

 

Something happened where things got corrupted so badly on my SSD, that nothing was there, Even Windows. I did have a backup, but some things weren’t there, including Silenzio. JAWS method of trying to prevent the beginning of words being cut off doesn’t work well on this Asus Zenbook Laptop. Silenzio works much better. I’ve looked on Google, with no luck. I’d appreciate learning where to get it.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


moderated Re: reading without ads

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 03:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
I prefer to send my data to nobody, or google, rather than microsoft.
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Not that not wanting to share data doesn't make sense, but in the context being discussed the data is already known.

Google is the worst among the "all knowing" software houses.  What you browse in Chrome is tracked, and analyzed to death.  Once you've loaded a page, they know you've been there.  They also know what's on that page.

I really don't know how much of something similar may or may not be going on with Edge, as I haven't kept up with it.  But by the time you're on a page they have what they want, if they want it.  An immersive reader does nothing beyond prettifying what's already on that webpage to make it easier to read.  And that doesn't matter what browser we're discussing.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Where can I get Silenzio?

Francisco Salvador Crespo
 

Hello.

Here's the link:


best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 21 feb. 2021, a las 17:34, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> escribió:



Hi.

 

Something happened where things got corrupted so badly on my SSD, that nothing was there, Even Windows. I did have a backup, but some things weren’t there, including Silenzio. JAWS method of trying to prevent the beginning of words being cut off doesn’t work well on this Asus Zenbook Laptop. Silenzio works much better. I’ve looked on Google, with no luck. I’d appreciate learning where to get it.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


moderated Re: reading without ads

Chris Hill
 

I have never actually tried the emersive reader in edge.  I prefer to send my data to nobody, or google, rather than microsoft.

On 2/21/2021 12:28, Mario wrote:
so for Edge, I know there's the Imersive Reader that's built in. does that not work well?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 1:17 PM
Subject: reading without ads
Well, nothing is going to get them all, because most add-ons are looking
for things that don't come from the website your reading, and some will
host ads natively.  I've been using adblockplus for years on any browser
I can.  It stops a lot of them, especially if you set it to show no
ads.  You may have to turn it off, unfortunately, to view the pages on
some websites.  I keep edge without an ad blocker, and then if I need to
read a site that won't let me I just bring it up in edge.



CH


On 2/21/2021 12:02, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.










.





moderated Where can I get Silenzio?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

Something happened where things got corrupted so badly on my SSD, that nothing was there, Even Windows. I did have a backup, but some things weren’t there, including Silenzio. JAWS method of trying to prevent the beginning of words being cut off doesn’t work well on this Asus Zenbook Laptop. Silenzio works much better. I’ve looked on Google, with no luck. I’d appreciate learning where to get it.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly


moderated Re: sending posts

Mario
 

so I guess there really is no preference to email either list?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 3:11 PM
Subject: sending posts
Richard,
I don't recall when or why but, this group did change it's name from,
jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
to,
main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
That's why mario was able to send the same message using both email
addresses.  Many people still use the old address and I use both
addresses when creating my message rules to keep the old address users
going to the same folder.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:51 AM
*Subject:* Re: sending posts

I think they are two different groups, but I have no idea beyond that
they have different addresses.
I just send to the one that starts main@.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Feb 21, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com
<mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm wondering. is sending an email to this list (main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>) the same as sending it to jfw@groups.io
<mailto:jfw@groups.io>?
>
> if so, what is the difference, and which one is preferred that I
email in the future?
>
>
>
>
>


moderated Re: sending posts

Richard Turner
 

Yes, I guess I thought whomever was running the JFW group was going to shut it down, and then along came the Main@ group.
That is why I only send new messages I create to the Main@ group and probably reply to the JFW@ group without paying attention that it is a different group.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 21, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


Richard,
 
I don't recall when or why but, this group did change it's name from,
 
to,
 
 
That's why mario was able to send the same message using both email addresses.  Many people still use the old address and I use both addresses when creating my message rules to keep the old address users  going to the same folder.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: sending posts

I think they are two different groups, but I have no idea beyond that they have different addresses.
I just send to the one that starts main@.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Feb 21, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
>
> I'm wondering. is sending an email to this list (main@jfw.groups.io) the same as sending it to jfw@groups.io?
>
> if so, what is the difference, and which one is preferred that I email in the future?
>
>
>
>
>






moderated Re: sending posts

Mike B.
 


Richard,
 
I don't recall when or why but, this group did change it's name from,
 
to,
 
 
That's why mario was able to send the same message using both email addresses.  Many people still use the old address and I use both addresses when creating my message rules to keep the old address users  going to the same folder.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: sending posts

I think they are two different groups, but I have no idea beyond that they have different addresses.
I just send to the one that starts main@.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Feb 21, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
>
> I'm wondering. is sending an email to this list (main@jfw.groups.io) the same as sending it to jfw@groups.io?
>
> if so, what is the difference, and which one is preferred that I email in the future?
>
>
>
>
>






moderated Re: reading without ads

JM Casey
 

F9 always is what worked for me to enter reader view in Firefox. It still
works now.

It's necessary for people to understand the other side when it comes to ad
blockers, browser ad filtering, etc.
The creators of websites, and providers of information thereon, make most of
their money from ad revenue -- therefore even though the experience of an
adless internet life is pleasant for us (and I use uBlock Origin myself),
the object of content providers is going to be finding cleverer and better
ways of making sure we do see the ads, moving forward. So some of these
solutions may not work always and forever.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: February 21, 2021 01:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading without ads

Once upon a time, control+alt+r in Firefox would put it in reader view that
tried to do that.
I've pretty much been using Edge for a couple of years, so I do not know if
that works now.

I use the Jaws marking the start of a section I want to copy, go to the end,
use the select between marked place and current location and copy.
Then, I paste into a text editor like NoteTab Pro and edit out the junk.
Set mark is control+windows+k.
At the end, insert+space, then m, then control c to copy.




Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: reading without ads

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any
extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the
article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


moderated Re: reading without ads

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 01:56 PM, Mario wrote:
Brian, could you please expand on what those other tools are?
-
See the uBlock Origin extension page in the Chrome Web Store.  It appears that the uBlock Origin Extra functionality has been rolled in to uBlock Origin.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: reading without ads

Mario
 

Brian, could you please expand on what those other tools are?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 1:23 PM
Subject: reading without ads
uBlock Origin and uBlock Origin Extra are excellent ad blocking (among a
couple of other things) tools for Chromium-based browsers that need them.

There are also a number of browsers, e.g., Brave and Vivaldi, that have
heavy duty ad blocking and privacy measures built in to the browser.
Both of those happen to be Chromium-based, but I believe there are a
couple that are Firefox-based as well.
--

Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide


moderated Re: sending posts

Mike B.
 


Yes it is, and I received emails with you using both email addresses.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:23 AM
Subject: sending posts

I'm wondering. is sending an email to this list (main@jfw.groups.io) the
same as sending it to jfw@groups.io?

if so, what is the difference, and which one is preferred that I email
in the future?





moderated Re: sending posts

Richard Turner
 

I think they are two different groups, but I have no idea beyond that they have different addresses.
I just send to the one that starts main@.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 21, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm wondering. is sending an email to this list (main@jfw.groups.io) the same as sending it to jfw@groups.io?

if so, what is the difference, and which one is preferred that I email in the future?





moderated Re: reading without ads

Mario
 

so for Edge, I know there's the Imersive Reader that's built in. does that not work well?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021, 1:17 PM
Subject: reading without ads
Well, nothing is going to get them all, because most add-ons are looking
for things that don't come from the website your reading, and some will
host ads natively.  I've been using adblockplus for years on any browser
I can.  It stops a lot of them, especially if you set it to show no
ads.  You may have to turn it off, unfortunately, to view the pages on
some websites.  I keep edge without an ad blocker, and then if I need to
read a site that won't let me I just bring it up in edge.



CH


On 2/21/2021 12:02, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there
any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included
in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in
asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or
NVDA.










.


moderated sending posts

Mario
 

I'm wondering. is sending an email to this list (main@jfw.groups.io) the same as sending it to jfw@groups.io?

if so, what is the difference, and which one is preferred that I email in the future?


moderated Re: reading without ads

 

uBlock Origin and uBlock Origin Extra are excellent ad blocking (among a couple of other things) tools for Chromium-based browsers that need them.

There are also a number of browsers, e.g., Brave and Vivaldi, that have heavy duty ad blocking and privacy measures built in to the browser.  Both of those happen to be Chromium-based, but I believe there are a couple that are Firefox-based as well.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: reading without ads

Richard Turner
 

Once upon a time, control+alt+r in Firefox would put it in reader view that tried to do that.
I've pretty much been using Edge for a couple of years, so I do not know if that works now.

I use the Jaws marking the start of a section I want to copy, go to the end, use the select between marked place and current location and copy.
Then, I paste into a text editor like NoteTab Pro and edit out the junk.
Set mark is control+windows+k.
At the end, insert+space, then m, then control c to copy.




Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 10:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: reading without ads

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


moderated Re: reading without ads

Chris Hill
 

Well, nothing is going to get them all, because most add-ons are looking for things that don't come from the website your reading, and some will host ads natively.  I've been using adblockplus for years on any browser I can.  It stops a lot of them, especially if you set it to show no ads.  You may have to turn it off, unfortunately, to view the pages on some websites.  I keep edge without an ad blocker, and then if I need to read a site that won't let me I just bring it up in edge.



CH

On 2/21/2021 12:02, Mario wrote:
in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.




moderated reading without ads

Mario
 

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.


moderated reading without ads

Mario
 

in reading articles from a website using Chrome and Firefox, are there any extensions that filters out those pesky ads that may be included in the article. on occasion, I also would want to copy from the article.
please don't tell me to go look up what's available. I'm interested in asking the experts which one for each browser works well with JAWS or NVDA.

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