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moderated Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Marty Hutchings
 

Hay, Thanks for the information about Shift F6 and F6. That should help a lot. Are there any other keyboard short cuts that I am not aware of?



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

-----Original Message-----
From: paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Hi,

I'm not sure why people are saying iTunes isn't accessible, although it may
not be the best layout for a screen reader, as far as I'm aware its fully
accessible. I don't use it much and maybe there are features I'm not using
which aren't accessible, but I can add music to the library, create
playlists, transfer music to my iphone and manage my iPhone from within
itunes all without any sighted assistance using only jaws. I know others
have already suggested using shift and tab to navigate, also F6 and shift F6
are two other really handy keystrokes which move you between sections.
Rather than having to cycle through each option as you do when tabbing, F6
quickly moves you from one section to another, meaning less key presses to
navigate between different sections of the program.

Paul Lemm

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: 19 February 2021 17:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Hi yes you are all correct apple has made no attempts to make their itues
software accessible with JAWS!

One solution I would do if you have aira is have them help you by having
aira log into the computer with team viewer and then telling the aria agent
what you ant to do for example moving music from widnwos into itues and then
having them transfer it to your iphone or ipdad.

I know most of you want to do thsi independently but Apple will not make any
changes to their program.

Unfortunately, if you have a mac then it works properly, howveer most people
wnat a pc and they should make changes to. I wonder if we should all write
apple and demand they fix this.

I know the NFB sued apple for accessability and maybe it's time for that to
hapen again or the acb necds to put a fire uncder them!

I hope this heops.


moderated Re: Creating a link

Shirley Tracy
 

Thank you for giving me a place to start. I’ll try tackling it.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a link

 

See also the search results from:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hyperlinks+inside+a+word+document 

There are scads of different tutorials on this subject, from Microsoft and myriad others.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

 


moderated My Jaws Problem

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Hi,

I solved my problem where Jaws wouldn''t read my  email messages automatically.

I turned the DECtalk off and back on.

That solved the problem.

Thank you richard for replying.

 

Pastor Gilbert


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: podcasts and YouTube downloads

JM Casey
 

I usually just go to the podcasts websites and download them from there.

Many that don’t have an obvious link for locally downloading episodes are available on podbay, which does.

I’m sure you’ll get lots of recommendations for youtube downloaders..specifically one programme in particular that always seems to be a topic of discussion on blind tech/screen-reader mailing lists, Pontes Media Downloader – I don’t use it and I don’t bother downloading content from youtube, generally.

 

As for podcasts – that would depend on your interests. But some of the ones I listen to include:

 

Projection Booth (probably the best film cast on the internet; for true cinephiles and people interested in the stories behind famous and infamous films, some mainstream, many not)

 

the B Movie Cast (a bunch of friendly and funny people ramble about a lot of stuff including great classic cult movies for hours),

 

Conspiracy Theory Podcast (just what it says on the tin, really)

 

The paranoid Strain (kind of like the aforementioned, but very in-depth – debunks some of the most heinous and weird conspiracy nonsense out there with extensive research, and some humour)

 

Behind the Bastards (the host and his guests, usually comedians or other podcasters, go to town on some of the worst people in history – dictators, politicians, white collar criminals, historical figures, fascists, etc -- some terrific research here as well, but the left-wing or even somewhat anarchist slant might put some people off.)

 

Sword an d Scale (a “true rime” podcast, quite a production with lots of audio clips and such – the host can say the damnedest thigns sometimes, but I agree with him at least most of the time and anyway, the stories can be pretty rivetting. It gets heavy so not for the easily bothered.)

 

Some science fiction literature and TV-related podcasts.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: February 19, 2021 06:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: podcasts and YouTube downloads

 

Hello Everyone,

First, I use iTuneswith Jaws 2021. It is somewhat accessible in my opinion, I need to learn more about how to use the built-in keyboard commands.

Since iTunes has been one of the topics this week, I would like to ask what are everyone’s favorite podcasts to listen to?

Also, I know you get some kind of software to download YouTube, can anyone provide what software to use and how to grab selections from YouTube?

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Richard Turner
 

It is accessible in the most minimalist definition of accessible.


Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Hi,

I'm not sure why people are saying iTunes isn't accessible, although it may not be the best layout for a screen reader, as far as I'm aware its fully accessible. I don't use it much and maybe there are features I'm not using which aren't accessible, but I can add music to the library, create playlists, transfer music to my iphone and manage my iPhone from within itunes all without any sighted assistance using only jaws. I know others have already suggested using shift and tab to navigate, also F6 and shift F6 are two other really handy keystrokes which move you between sections.
Rather than having to cycle through each option as you do when tabbing, F6 quickly moves you from one section to another, meaning less key presses to navigate between different sections of the program.

Paul Lemm

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: 19 February 2021 17:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Hi yes you are all correct apple has made no attempts to make their itues software accessible with JAWS!

One solution I would do if you have aira is have them help you by having aira log into the computer with team viewer and then telling the aria agent what you ant to do for example moving music from widnwos into itues and then having them transfer it to your iphone or ipdad.

I know most of you want to do thsi independently but Apple will not make any changes to their program.

Unfortunately, if you have a mac then it works properly, howveer most people wnat a pc and they should make changes to. I wonder if we should all write apple and demand they fix this.

I know the NFB sued apple for accessability and maybe it's time for that to hapen again or the acb necds to put a fire uncder them!

I hope this heops.


moderated Re: Why does JAWS think the scripts for LibreOffice are "Symphony?"

JM Casey
 

It’s probably a generic set of scripts named for Lotus Symphony, a discontinued suite (I think) from IBM on which Libre and Open Office *may* have based some code.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: February 19, 2021 04:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Why does JAWS think the scripts for LibreOffice are "Symphony?"

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2020, Windows 10 and LibreOffice 7.1.  I wanted to adjust a particular setting while using LibreOffice.  Therefore I pressed JAWSKey+6.  When Settings Center opened, it thinks I am using the scripts for “Symphony.”  There is not a script set for LibreOffice, and I do not have “Symphony”; whatever that is.  Why is this?  How, or should, I go about creating a whole new settings scheme for a new application I will call “LibreOffice?"

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Creating a link

 

See also the search results from:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hyperlinks+inside+a+word+document 

There are scads of different tutorials on this subject, from Microsoft and myriad others.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

paul lemm
 

Hi,

I'm not sure why people are saying iTunes isn't accessible, although it may
not be the best layout for a screen reader, as far as I'm aware its fully
accessible. I don't use it much and maybe there are features I'm not using
which aren't accessible, but I can add music to the library, create
playlists, transfer music to my iphone and manage my iPhone from within
itunes all without any sighted assistance using only jaws. I know others
have already suggested using shift and tab to navigate, also F6 and shift F6
are two other really handy keystrokes which move you between sections.
Rather than having to cycle through each option as you do when tabbing, F6
quickly moves you from one section to another, meaning less key presses to
navigate between different sections of the program.

Paul Lemm

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: 19 February 2021 17:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Hi yes you are all correct apple has made no attempts to make their itues
software accessible with JAWS!

One solution I would do if you have aira is have them help you by having
aira log into the computer with team viewer and then telling the aria agent
what you ant to do for example moving music from widnwos into itues and then
having them transfer it to your iphone or ipdad.

I know most of you want to do thsi independently but Apple will not make any
changes to their program.

Unfortunately, if you have a mac then it works properly, howveer most people
wnat a pc and they should make changes to. I wonder if we should all write
apple and demand they fix this.

I know the NFB sued apple for accessability and maybe it's time for that to
hapen again or the acb necds to put a fire uncder them!

I hope this heops.


moderated Re: Creating a link

G. Gray
 

Hi Shirley-


Greetings!  Just a suggestion, but why not just use the * key.    Then all the reader would have to do is do a search for * using ctrl + F and then just hit that combo again.  The chapters could be designated something like this:


*Chapter 1  My Youth

*Chapter 2  The Teen Age Years


Just a thought, but I use the * key all the time in most of my documents...it's a real timesaver!!!


Listening for that Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18)


George
On 2/19/2021 3:48 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

Hi all,

 

This may sound like a silly request from a non-tech JAWS user, but here goes: Is it possible for me to create a link in a word document that will take the person reading it  to another place in that same word document. In other words, I’d like to create a same-page link.

 

I’m trying to write our family history, and my grown children don’t want it printed. They want me to send them the document so they can simply read it online. I have a table of contents and would like to create a link from each content to the section it references. Is this too convoluted, or is it simple enough for me to accomplish?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley

 

 

 

 

 

 


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moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: podcasts and YouTube downloads

Robert Cole
 

Hi,
I use 
The portable version with no add-ware to download podcasts or audio demos from YouTube.


On Feb 19, 2021, at 6:06 PM, Jeff Lukacsena <jlukacsena@...> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

First, I use iTuneswith Jaws 2021. It is somewhat accessible in my opinion, I need to learn more about how to use the built-in keyboard commands.

Since iTunes has been one of the topics this week, I would like to ask what are everyone’s favorite podcasts to listen to?

Also, I know you get some kind of software to download YouTube, can anyone provide what software to use and how to grab selections from YouTube?

Jeff Lukacsena

 



moderated Re: Why does JAWS think the scripts for LibreOffice are "Symphony?"

 

This is most likely an accident of history, where scripts were written for Symphony and as that software morphed to OpenOffice and LibreOffice there was no real need to rename the scripts.

See this Wikipedia page for how IBM Symphony became Open Office.  Libre Office is a fork of Open Office and is currently much better supported.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Lotus_Symphony 

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Jeff Lukacsena: podcasts and YouTube downloads

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hello Everyone,

First, I use iTuneswith Jaws 2021. It is somewhat accessible in my opinion, I need to learn more about how to use the built-in keyboard commands.

Since iTunes has been one of the topics this week, I would like to ask what are everyone’s favorite podcasts to listen to?

Also, I know you get some kind of software to download YouTube, can anyone provide what software to use and how to grab selections from YouTube?

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Creating a link

Richard Turner
 

Here is a link to an explanation of how to do this. Hopefully it will make enough sense.

https://www.extendoffice.com/documents/word/5432-word-table-of-content-link-to-page.html


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 19, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



Hi all,

 

This may sound like a silly request from a non-tech JAWS user, but here goes: Is it possible for me to create a link in a word document that will take the person reading it  to another place in that same word document. In other words, I’d like to create a same-page link.

 

I’m trying to write our family history, and my grown children don’t want it printed. They want me to send them the document so they can simply read it online. I have a table of contents and would like to create a link from each content to the section it references. Is this too convoluted, or is it simple enough for me to accomplish?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Why does JAWS think the scripts for LibreOffice are "Symphony?"

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2020, Windows 10 and LibreOffice 7.1.  I wanted to adjust a particular setting while using LibreOffice.  Therefore I pressed JAWSKey+6.  When Settings Center opened, it thinks I am using the scripts for “Symphony.”  There is not a script set for LibreOffice, and I do not have “Symphony”; whatever that is.  Why is this?  How, or should, I go about creating a whole new settings scheme for a new application I will call “LibreOffice?"

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Creating a link

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi all,

 

This may sound like a silly request from a non-tech JAWS user, but here goes: Is it possible for me to create a link in a word document that will take the person reading it  to another place in that same word document. In other words, I’d like to create a same-page link.

 

I’m trying to write our family history, and my grown children don’t want it printed. They want me to send them the document so they can simply read it online. I have a table of contents and would like to create a link from each content to the section it references. Is this too convoluted, or is it simple enough for me to accomplish?

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Marty Hutchings
 

I am using iTunes latest version with JAWS 21 latest build and Windows 7. I have an iPod Shuffle 4th Generation, iPod Touch 6th Generation, iPhone SE and an iPhone 8. Although it is a bit cumbersome, like it has been said earlier in this thread, Tab And Shift Tab are your friend. The Alt Key will get you into the menus, although nothing is spoken until you hit the Down arrow after pressing Alt.
It does seem that Freedom Scientific could spend more time configuring JAWS to work with more commercial programs, or Apple could make their programs accessible, but there are some incredibly talented script writers out there that I am sure, could put something together that would make iTunes a little more screen reader friendly. How about it anyone?



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Hi yes you are all correct apple has made no attempts to make their
itues software accessible with JAWS!

One solution I would do if you have aira is have them help you by
having aira log into the computer with team viewer and then telling the
aria agent what you ant to do for example moving music from widnwos
into itues and then having them transfer it to your iphone or ipdad.

I know most of you want to do thsi independently but Apple will not
make any changes to their program.

Unfortunately, if you have a mac then it works properly, howveer most
people wnat a pc and they should make changes to. I wonder if we should
all write apple and demand they fix this.

I know the NFB sued apple for accessability and maybe it's time for
that to hapen again or the acb necds to put a fire uncder them!

I hope this heops.


moderated Re: Export contacts

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 01:09 PM, Andrew Summers wrote:
I used Excel to open the file.
-
Then the questions are twofold:

1.  Do you have a header row (which you generally should, with the first row of cells being the name of the data below it)?

2.  Is the data in each row beneath that header row correct in that the name, email address, etc, all belongs to the person or entity you expect it to?

Most exports are not sorted by last name, for instance.  You can ask Excel to do this for you, but after checking a single entry, if everything appears to be "in order" for that single row of cells, it should be for all others as well.

You have no control over how any given webmail or email client does its export, while you do as far as field mappings when it comes time to import.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Export contacts

Andrew Summers
 

I used Excel to open the file.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 19 February 2021 17:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Export contacts

 

How did you open that CSV file?

They're nightmarish to even try to look at if you use a text editor.  If opened in Excel, they're easier to deal with.

You have to remember that exported contacts are not prettily sorted, but generally get spit out in the order they were created.  It's up to whatever contacts manager is in use to do the ordering in the way you prefer.

You'll also have to be very careful on import, as over the years I find that how the importing software wants to map the fields, and how the fields in the CSV file should actually be mapped into the new contacts, is at variance.  This is the step I've consistently found to be the biggest PITA.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Export contacts

 

How did you open that CSV file?

They're nightmarish to even try to look at if you use a text editor.  If opened in Excel, they're easier to deal with.

You have to remember that exported contacts are not prettily sorted, but generally get spit out in the order they were created.  It's up to whatever contacts manager is in use to do the ordering in the way you prefer.

You'll also have to be very careful on import, as over the years I find that how the importing software wants to map the fields, and how the fields in the CSV file should actually be mapped into the new contacts, is at variance.  This is the step I've consistently found to be the biggest PITA.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Export contacts

Andrew Summers
 

Hi,

How do I map fields in outlook 365 with JAWS 2021, before exporting as a
.csv file?

I don't find it accessible to do.

I just exported as it was and all my contact names and email addresses are
all over the place and not in order by name after I opened the file.

How do I do it?



Andrew

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