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moderated Re: Research it

Maria Campbell
 

I can't find it either.  ResearchIt is just about useless anymore.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 2/15/2021 5:48 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
I am trying to check on a flight using research it.  I know it is the correct number, because I can find it on google; but stinkin' research it tells me flight not found.  Is flight look up working for everyone else?  The number I am looking for is United Airlines 3442.  I entered ua3442, but no joy.





moderated Research it

Ann Byrne
 

I am trying to check on a flight using research it. I know it is the correct number, because I can find it on google; but stinkin' research it tells me flight not found. Is flight look up working for everyone else? The number I am looking for is United Airlines 3442. I entered ua3442, but no joy.


moderated Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

JM Casey
 

Files are automatically placed in whatever folder you have set as your downloads folder in your browser. F6 just takes you to the downloads payne where you can 8view* your files – f6 doesn’t actually do anything, per se, just places your focus on the downloads area.

Are you looking to either see what folder your downloads are going to in-browser? Do you want to change it? Do you want a prompt, or no prompt?

All this is stuff you configure in settings of your browser of choice. Of course there are default settings – I cannot remember what those are as I am always fiddling with stuff. Right now Chrome just downloads when I activate a download link or button; no prompt or anything. I think I have Firefox set to be a bit more “prompty”. Often though what I’ll do in either is open the context menu for a link, press k, and enter in a filename from  there when the usual ‘save as” dialogue box pops up.  You can enter a full path there too, so there’s never any doubt or question as to where your files are going.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: February 15, 2021 03:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

 

A while ago someone mentioned how to download and the item would automatically be placed in your downloads folder without having to go through the f6 procedure. Could someone please remind me how this is done.

And, whilst on this topic, do we no longer use alt n to access the save or open options?

Alison


moderated Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

Andrew Summers
 

What browser are you using?

If it is IE, hold the alt key with n and tab to open or save.

Then repeat above steps.

The only change is, open folder.

Tab to open folder and press enter

The file should be in your downloads.

Job done.

HTH

 

Andrew

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: 15 February 2021 20:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

 

I’m being a bit slow here, Brenda, so forgive me.

I belong to a Rock Choir and our parts are shared via their website. So, I find the audio file I need to download, hit the download link and at that point I have no choice but to hit f6 and keep tabbing until I am offered the option of save or open. By default the download goes to my download folder where I can find it and then save it to wherever I choose.

I am unsure how this would work using your method.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: 15 February 2021 18:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

 

Hello,

 

I am not sure this will answer your question or meet your needs but this is what I do.  I rarely use F6 to go to the download page.  I simply use windows E for file explorer and then do first letter navigation to get to the download page.  Then I open the file that was downloaded and either read it or save it.  While I am sure there are many ways to work efficiently with the download bar (F6) I find this method effective for me and not frustrating.  I must admit that I found Internet Explorer easier to use because it gave you an audio cue to hit alt N and then you could simply tab to open or save and then arrow down to complete your necessary actions.

Hope this helps some and thanks to everyone on this list for all of the tips and instructions which are constantly being listed.  I learn something new every day.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

 

A while ago someone mentioned how to download and the item would automatically be placed in your downloads folder without having to go through the f6 procedure. Could someone please remind me how this is done.

And, whilst on this topic, do we no longer use alt n to access the save or open options?

Alison


moderated Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

CJ &AA MAY
 

I’m being a bit slow here, Brenda, so forgive me.

I belong to a Rock Choir and our parts are shared via their website. So, I find the audio file I need to download, hit the download link and at that point I have no choice but to hit f6 and keep tabbing until I am offered the option of save or open. By default the download goes to my download folder where I can find it and then save it to wherever I choose.

I am unsure how this would work using your method.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: 15 February 2021 18:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

 

Hello,

 

I am not sure this will answer your question or meet your needs but this is what I do.  I rarely use F6 to go to the download page.  I simply use windows E for file explorer and then do first letter navigation to get to the download page.  Then I open the file that was downloaded and either read it or save it.  While I am sure there are many ways to work efficiently with the download bar (F6) I find this method effective for me and not frustrating.  I must admit that I found Internet Explorer easier to use because it gave you an audio cue to hit alt N and then you could simply tab to open or save and then arrow down to complete your necessary actions.

Hope this helps some and thanks to everyone on this list for all of the tips and instructions which are constantly being listed.  I learn something new every day.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

 

A while ago someone mentioned how to download and the item would automatically be placed in your downloads folder without having to go through the f6 procedure. Could someone please remind me how this is done.

And, whilst on this topic, do we no longer use alt n to access the save or open options?

Alison


moderated Re: Is there a dedicated accessibility support group for LibreOffice?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Your below email led me to what I needed.  Below is the *actual* email address to which an email should be sent:

 

accessibility+subscribe@...

 

thanks!

Richard (the other one)

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a dedicated accessibility support group for LibreOffice?

 

I did some web searching for Libreoffice accessibility mail list, and found the archives to the list you are referring to and the most recent archives which are way, way down the page are for February 2021.  The link to the archives is below.

 

It is not clear to me how you would subscribe,

But I’d try again with the word Subscribe in the subject field and send it to:

accessibility@...

 

Here is the archives link.

 

List Archives (libreoffice.org)

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 1:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Is there a dedicated accessibility support group for LibreOffice?

 

Hi!

 

Is there some sort of support group, like this one, for LibreOffice?  From their information, they said to subscribe to accessibility@....  I did this several times several days ago, but never received any kind of confirmation nor failure email message in return - nothing.  This makes me think that whatever group may have been there in the past is now defunct.  So, is there something else?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

JM Casey
 

I don’t often use the “downloads bar” anymore either, but ctrl-j will also get you a separate window showing the browser’s downloads library  in I think Chromium-based and Firefox browsers. It’s not the same as opening your downloads library with file explorer as not all your standard commands are available on the downloads bar, but it will show specifics about the file and its download source, etc, that file eplorer generally doesn’t.

 

Not sure what is meant by the “audio cue” as all browsers can prompt whether to download something/save it or not.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: February 15, 2021 01:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

 

Hello,

 

I am not sure this will answer your question or meet your needs but this is what I do.  I rarely use F6 to go to the download page.  I simply use windows E for file explorer and then do first letter navigation to get to the download page.  Then I open the file that was downloaded and either read it or save it.  While I am sure there are many ways to work efficiently with the download bar (F6) I find this method effective for me and not frustrating.  I must admit that I found Internet Explorer easier to use because it gave you an audio cue to hit alt N and then you could simply tab to open or save and then arrow down to complete your necessary actions.

Hope this helps some and thanks to everyone on this list for all of the tips and instructions which are constantly being listed.  I learn something new every day.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

 

A while ago someone mentioned how to download and the item would automatically be placed in your downloads folder without having to go through the f6 procedure. Could someone please remind me how this is done.

And, whilst on this topic, do we no longer use alt n to access the save or open options?

Alison


moderated Re: Date and time

 

Generally one has to "get the hang of the speed" of how quickly that F12 has to be hit.

Once that INSERT is held down, you have to play with "how fast can you go" with the double F12 press.  Eventually you find the sweet spot, speed-wise.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Date and time

Madison Martin
 

Thanks, you were right!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: February 15, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

You aren't tapping the F12 quick enough.
Don't let go of the insert key while pressing the F12 twice.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <madisonmartin463@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Date and time


Doing that doesn't give me the date, all it does is give me the time again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: February 15, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions.
Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along
with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Glenn / Lenny
 

You aren't tapping the F12 quick enough.
Don't let go of the insert key while pressing the F12 twice.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <madisonmartin463@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Date and time


Doing that doesn't give me the date, all it does is give me the time again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: February 15, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to
say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key
plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions.
Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do
acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with
F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Madison Martin
 

Doing that doesn't give me the date, all it does is give me the time again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: February 15, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

Brenda Emerson-Alford
 

Hello,

 

I am not sure this will answer your question or meet your needs but this is what I do.  I rarely use F6 to go to the download page.  I simply use windows E for file explorer and then do first letter navigation to get to the download page.  Then I open the file that was downloaded and either read it or save it.  While I am sure there are many ways to work efficiently with the download bar (F6) I find this method effective for me and not frustrating.  I must admit that I found Internet Explorer easier to use because it gave you an audio cue to hit alt N and then you could simply tab to open or save and then arrow down to complete your necessary actions.

Hope this helps some and thanks to everyone on this list for all of the tips and instructions which are constantly being listed.  I learn something new every day.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

 

A while ago someone mentioned how to download and the item would automatically be placed in your downloads folder without having to go through the f6 procedure. Could someone please remind me how this is done.

And, whilst on this topic, do we no longer use alt n to access the save or open options?

Alison


moderated Re: Date and time

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Michael Massey
 

You have to press the F12 key twice quickly to hear the date announced.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Madison Martin
 

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Closing Word with Jaws

 

I'll agree that this is not a "dumb question."   Most of us have our standard procedures, but when something occurs to make those not feasible at the moment, alternatives must be sought out.

My only note is that this question has nothing at all to do with whether JAWS is being used or not.  ALT+F4 is a global Windows command for any program, and using the Word File Backstage View to Close (ALT+F,C) is a Word Command.

I cannot find any exit option in Word 2016 or later via the file menu.  If you have multiple files open, using the close command will actually close the word window for all but the final one.  When you're on the final one, it will close the document, but leave Word itself open.

ALT+Spacebar, in almost any given program, will bring up the main window context menu, which is short, and the last item is generally Close (or Exit if Close is used on the only instance of the window), so ALT+Spacebar,C will generally nuke any given window you happen to be looking at.  There are rare exceptions, but Word isn't one of those.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Date and time

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

I have an Asus Zen Book laptop, and, like many others, the function keys were set so FN had to be pressed with them to do things like JAWS control. To fix this, I learned that FN+ESC would solve the problem. It fixed it for me, and if I ever want things back the way they were, I just press that key combination again.

Just sharing.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hello,
Sometimes the special function keys setting can be changed in
control pannel under keyboard in the function keys category and other times this setting would need to be changed in BIOS which is inaccessible to screen readers.
I would begin in the control panel under keyboard link and see if there is any tab when pressing control tab that states function keys tab.
You could also try pressing the fn key to the left of the space bar with escape to disable it temporarily while you press insert f12 for example to check time.

On 2/15/21, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fioresq1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi: can I change that back?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along
with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.






























--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: Date and time

Shai
 

Hello,
Sometimes the special function keys setting can be changed in
control pannel under keyboard in the function keys category and other
times this setting would need to be changed in BIOS which is
inaccessible to screen readers.
I would begin in the control panel under keyboard link and see if
there is any tab when pressing control tab that states function keys
tab.
You could also try pressing the fn key to the left of the space bar
with escape to disable it temporarily while you press insert f12 for
example to check time.

On 2/15/21, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fioresq1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi: can I change that back?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with
F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the time if
you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.





























--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: Date and time

Tony Schnurr
 

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.

On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the time if
you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.






















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