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moderated Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

JM Casey
 

I don’t often use the “downloads bar” anymore either, but ctrl-j will also get you a separate window showing the browser’s downloads library  in I think Chromium-based and Firefox browsers. It’s not the same as opening your downloads library with file explorer as not all your standard commands are available on the downloads bar, but it will show specifics about the file and its download source, etc, that file eplorer generally doesn’t.

 

Not sure what is meant by the “audio cue” as all browsers can prompt whether to download something/save it or not.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: February 15, 2021 01:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

 

Hello,

 

I am not sure this will answer your question or meet your needs but this is what I do.  I rarely use F6 to go to the download page.  I simply use windows E for file explorer and then do first letter navigation to get to the download page.  Then I open the file that was downloaded and either read it or save it.  While I am sure there are many ways to work efficiently with the download bar (F6) I find this method effective for me and not frustrating.  I must admit that I found Internet Explorer easier to use because it gave you an audio cue to hit alt N and then you could simply tab to open or save and then arrow down to complete your necessary actions.

Hope this helps some and thanks to everyone on this list for all of the tips and instructions which are constantly being listed.  I learn something new every day.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

 

A while ago someone mentioned how to download and the item would automatically be placed in your downloads folder without having to go through the f6 procedure. Could someone please remind me how this is done.

And, whilst on this topic, do we no longer use alt n to access the save or open options?

Alison


moderated Re: Date and time

 

Generally one has to "get the hang of the speed" of how quickly that F12 has to be hit.

Once that INSERT is held down, you have to play with "how fast can you go" with the double F12 press.  Eventually you find the sweet spot, speed-wise.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Date and time

Madison Martin
 

Thanks, you were right!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: February 15, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

You aren't tapping the F12 quick enough.
Don't let go of the insert key while pressing the F12 twice.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <madisonmartin463@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Date and time


Doing that doesn't give me the date, all it does is give me the time again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: February 15, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions.
Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along
with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Glenn / Lenny
 

You aren't tapping the F12 quick enough.
Don't let go of the insert key while pressing the F12 twice.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <madisonmartin463@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Date and time


Doing that doesn't give me the date, all it does is give me the time again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: February 15, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to
say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key
plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions.
Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do
acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with
F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Madison Martin
 

Doing that doesn't give me the date, all it does is give me the time again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: February 15, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: how to download without going through f6 download bar

Brenda Emerson-Alford
 

Hello,

 

I am not sure this will answer your question or meet your needs but this is what I do.  I rarely use F6 to go to the download page.  I simply use windows E for file explorer and then do first letter navigation to get to the download page.  Then I open the file that was downloaded and either read it or save it.  While I am sure there are many ways to work efficiently with the download bar (F6) I find this method effective for me and not frustrating.  I must admit that I found Internet Explorer easier to use because it gave you an audio cue to hit alt N and then you could simply tab to open or save and then arrow down to complete your necessary actions.

Hope this helps some and thanks to everyone on this list for all of the tips and instructions which are constantly being listed.  I learn something new every day.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to download without going through f6 downlod bar

 

A while ago someone mentioned how to download and the item would automatically be placed in your downloads folder without having to go through the f6 procedure. Could someone please remind me how this is done.

And, whilst on this topic, do we no longer use alt n to access the save or open options?

Alison


moderated Re: Date and time

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

Press INSERT+F12 twice quickly to get the date.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Michael Massey
 

You have to press the F12 key twice quickly to hear the date announced.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Madison Martin
 

When I do insert f12 Jaws only says the time, no date. How do I get it to say the date?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: February 15, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Hey Tony: that solved the problem. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Schnurr
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.
On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Closing Word with Jaws

 

I'll agree that this is not a "dumb question."   Most of us have our standard procedures, but when something occurs to make those not feasible at the moment, alternatives must be sought out.

My only note is that this question has nothing at all to do with whether JAWS is being used or not.  ALT+F4 is a global Windows command for any program, and using the Word File Backstage View to Close (ALT+F,C) is a Word Command.

I cannot find any exit option in Word 2016 or later via the file menu.  If you have multiple files open, using the close command will actually close the word window for all but the final one.  When you're on the final one, it will close the document, but leave Word itself open.

ALT+Spacebar, in almost any given program, will bring up the main window context menu, which is short, and the last item is generally Close (or Exit if Close is used on the only instance of the window), so ALT+Spacebar,C will generally nuke any given window you happen to be looking at.  There are rare exceptions, but Word isn't one of those.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Date and time

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

I have an Asus Zen Book laptop, and, like many others, the function keys were set so FN had to be pressed with them to do things like JAWS control. To fix this, I learned that FN+ESC would solve the problem. It fixed it for me, and if I ever want things back the way they were, I just press that key combination again.

Just sharing.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

Hello,
Sometimes the special function keys setting can be changed in
control pannel under keyboard in the function keys category and other times this setting would need to be changed in BIOS which is inaccessible to screen readers.
I would begin in the control panel under keyboard link and see if there is any tab when pressing control tab that states function keys tab.
You could also try pressing the fn key to the left of the space bar with escape to disable it temporarily while you press insert f12 for example to check time.

On 2/15/21, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fioresq1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi: can I change that back?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along
with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the
time if you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so
insert+f12 doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws
to give me this information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close
Word ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I
know this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other
than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.






























--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: Date and time

Shai
 

Hello,
Sometimes the special function keys setting can be changed in
control pannel under keyboard in the function keys category and other
times this setting would need to be changed in BIOS which is
inaccessible to screen readers.
I would begin in the control panel under keyboard link and see if
there is any tab when pressing control tab that states function keys
tab.
You could also try pressing the fn key to the left of the space bar
with escape to disable it temporarily while you press insert f12 for
example to check time.

On 2/15/21, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fioresq1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi: can I change that back?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with
F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the time if
you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.





























--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: Date and time

Tony Schnurr
 

Depending on your computer model, you should be able to use function key plus escape to toggle your function keys back to their primary functions. Then jaws key plus F 12 should start working again without having to do acrobats trying to press jobs key plus F 12+ function. LOL.

On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:40, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the time if
you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.























moderated Re: Date and time

Glenn / Lenny
 

As far as I know, it is changed in the BIOS, so if it got turned on without
going into the BIOS, there is probably a button to toggle it.
You may need to look that up on your particular laptop model.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Date and time


Hi: can I change that back?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the time if
you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.


moderated Re: Date and time

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Hi: can I change that back?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Date and time

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the time if
you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.


moderated Re: Date and time

Glenn / Lenny
 

John,
I wonder if your function keys got turned to the other functions, like
volume and such.
Try using the special FN key, usually left of the space bar, along with F12.
Otherwise, you can do insert + B for the task bar and arrow to the time if
you have it set to display the time there.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." <fioresq1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:36 AM
Subject: Date and time


Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.


moderated Date and time

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Hi: I'm having a problem with my function keys on my laptop, so insert+f12
doesn't say date and time. Is there any other way for jaws to give me this
information?
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 08:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Closing Word with Jaws

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.


moderated Re: Closing Word with Jaws

Lee Anne Atkinson
 

No worries! The only dumb question is the one not asked. To close Word
ALT-f followed by x or up arrowing 1 time to exit.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Closing Word with Jaws

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.


moderated Re: Closing Word with Jaws

Richard Turner
 

Try alt+f then x I think or is it e for exit?


Richard

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"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Feb 15, 2021, at 5:19 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fioresq1@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning: I have a problem with my f4 key on my laptop keyboard. I know
this should be obvious but how can I completely close word other than with
alt+f4?
Thanks.






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