Date   

moderated Re: Asking two questions.

 

The download for the latest JAWS installer is always on the download page for same, and it's no different now.  Download page:  https://support.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS 
Specific download link on that page:  
Date and time changes in terms of format are a Windows level function.  Settings, Time & Language, Region Pane, Change data formats link then, in the dialog that comes up, look at the long and short time dropdowns.  The versions of time that don't have an AM or PM after them in those lists are 24-hour format, either with or without leading zero for the hours earlier than 10.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Asking two questions.

Ron Kolesar
 

Hello, to my fellow jaws user subscribers.

I just had to have my pc’s hard drive formatted, so I’m starting back from scratch.

I’m currently using NVDA because I went out to FS’s web page and the good news is that I was able to find the down load folder, but the bad news is that nowhere on the web page can I find a link to down load jaws 2021.

Can anyone help me out here?

I’ve been to software and to products and to down load with no luck.

I found the sales pitch on the new features of 2021, but no link to click on to down load the program to install it.

Also, I’m using outlook 2019 for my mail package.

Can anyone help me to change the date and time from the twelve hour civilian time to the twenty-four hour military time?

I know, I still need to add a tag line to my mail as well.

But I’ll get to that soon.

Many thanks for the help.

Ron KR3DOG


moderated Re: voice assistant question

Randy Barnett
 

This doesn't happen to me.Maybe twice since I started using it several years ago. Perhaps it is more of a pronunciation issue.

On 2/6/2021 8:32 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
But, that is just it.  I feel that the AI is deciding how I talk by inserting those words.



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-----Original Message----- From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

The reality is a lot of people swear and it is just a fact of life. Also
it is not up to an AI to decide how you or I talk. That is a personal
choice that an AI has no business deciding for us.

On 2/6/2021 10:53 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


   My question is, why do voice assistant AI assume you want to use swear words? Can't they be programmed to be nice?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed.  I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible.  I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. "  It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list.  I've never enabled "sharky"  So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison  Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it  or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it  would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word  to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all  possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison




























moderated Re: voice assistant question

Marty Hutchings
 

But, that is just it. I feel that the AI is deciding how I talk by inserting those words.



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

The reality is a lot of people swear and it is just a fact of life. Also
it is not up to an AI to decide how you or I talk. That is a personal
choice that an AI has no business deciding for us.

On 2/6/2021 10:53 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


My question is, why do voice assistant AI assume you want to use swear words? Can't they be programmed to be nice?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison





















moderated Re: voice assistant question

Randy Barnett
 

The reality is a lot of people swear and it is just a fact of life. Also it is not up to an AI to decide how you or I talk. That is a personal choice that an AI has no business deciding for us.

On 2/6/2021 10:53 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


   My question is, why do voice assistant AI assume you want to use swear words? Can't they be programmed to be nice?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed.  I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible.  I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. "  It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list.  I've never enabled "sharky"  So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison  Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it  or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it  would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word  to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all  possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison




















moderated Re: voice assistant question

Randy Barnett
 

On a IPhone the time it takes to correct a message often out ways the effect it will have on the communication. I just don't have the time to go through and retype all the dictation errors in a message. I will if it makes the message unreadable or it is a professional communication.

On 2/6/2021 8:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question
Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison










moderated Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

Randy Barnett
 

I need to know your secret as I have had this issue with jaws since 1995...

On 2/6/2021 7:15 AM, Chris Hill wrote:

Interesting.  I wonder if this has anything to do with a verbosity setting.  I have never gotten a lost focus message, but I've always tried to reduce unnecessary verbiage from jaws whenever I found a way.



On 2/6/2021 08:55, Dan Longmore wrote:

Hi,

  “Lost Focus” announcements will continue no matter the repairs or installs.  This is an ongoing issue that Freedom really needs to get a handle on .

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Good afternoon everyone, 

First, how would I go about doing a repair of Jaws 2021,  and can you remove a specific  update.  ,  I’m asking because whenever my computer boots up, I keep getting a lot of lost focus messages. Next, after I type whatever the subject line and tab to the edit field,  it indicates a dash     

Second, In the settings menu under the utilities option,  there isn’t anything about  enabling the  voice assistant.

Thanks in advance

for any and all help advice and suggestions,       

Al 


moderated Crosspost: Importing Saved Passwords From One Browser To Another

Jasmine Kotsay
 

Hi,

I am trying to sign into a couple of email accounts in Microsoft Edge. I have the passwords from those accounts saved in Chrome, and was wondering if it is possible to import them into Edge, and if so, how to do this?

 

Sincerely,

Jasmine

 

 

 

"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."

Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

 


moderated Re: replying to a gmail message using html view

Jim Ruby
 

For the hell of it I imported my 2020 settings in to 2021 and still
did not resolve the problem.
2020 works just fine with no problems.

Guess I'll just go back to 2020. I did write to jaws help, but all
they wanted me to do was zoom out and keep zooming out until it
started working.

Well that did nothing and did not fix the issue.
.

On 2/6/21, Jim Ruby via groups.io <jimruby67=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

I just fired up jaws version 2020 and it is working just fine. I sent
myself an email and I could reply to it just fine. I could stay on
that page and send myself multiple replies with no issues.



On 2/6/21, Jim Ruby via groups.io <jimruby67=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

This was not happening in the previous version of jaws 2020. I will
have to go to the other machine and try it out again and see if it is
still the case. If 2020 works fine still then it is something in jaws
2021.

On 2/5/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,

I have this same issue when working with any of the chromium browsers
when

activating buttons or links! Why in the hell are the chromium browsers
so
slow to respond to screen reader programs keystrokes?! It's very
irritating

just sitting there waiting for a audio confirmation for a screen refresh
and

being uneasy about refreshing manually! I'm referring to just browser
use
and not anything to do with email issues. If anyone has any helpful
tips
for this irritating issue as well, please suggest some setting changes
that

might help with this problem. Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Ruby
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2021 8:02 PM
Subject: replying to a gmail message using html view


Hello Everyone,

When I reply to an email using gmail html view with microsoft edge or
any other browser I must hit f5 before I can work with the web page
again.

any suggestions to resolve this, it is annoying.

1 open gmail and click on a email to reply to
2. go down to the quick reply and enter text in the edit field and hit
the send button

At this point I can not do anything with the page until I press f5.

This even happens if I use default settings in jaws


















moderated Re: replying to a gmail message using html view

Jim Ruby
 

Hi,

I just fired up jaws version 2020 and it is working just fine. I sent
myself an email and I could reply to it just fine. I could stay on
that page and send myself multiple replies with no issues.

On 2/6/21, Jim Ruby via groups.io <jimruby67=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

This was not happening in the previous version of jaws 2020. I will
have to go to the other machine and try it out again and see if it is
still the case. If 2020 works fine still then it is something in jaws
2021.

On 2/5/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,

I have this same issue when working with any of the chromium browsers
when

activating buttons or links! Why in the hell are the chromium browsers
so
slow to respond to screen reader programs keystrokes?! It's very
irritating

just sitting there waiting for a audio confirmation for a screen refresh
and

being uneasy about refreshing manually! I'm referring to just browser
use
and not anything to do with email issues. If anyone has any helpful tips
for this irritating issue as well, please suggest some setting changes
that

might help with this problem. Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Ruby
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2021 8:02 PM
Subject: replying to a gmail message using html view


Hello Everyone,

When I reply to an email using gmail html view with microsoft edge or
any other browser I must hit f5 before I can work with the web page
again.

any suggestions to resolve this, it is annoying.

1 open gmail and click on a email to reply to
2. go down to the quick reply and enter text in the edit field and hit
the send button

At this point I can not do anything with the page until I press f5.

This even happens if I use default settings in jaws














moderated Re: replying to a gmail message using html view

Jim Ruby
 

Hi,

This was not happening in the previous version of jaws 2020. I will
have to go to the other machine and try it out again and see if it is
still the case. If 2020 works fine still then it is something in jaws
2021.

On 2/5/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,

I have this same issue when working with any of the chromium browsers when

activating buttons or links! Why in the hell are the chromium browsers so
slow to respond to screen reader programs keystrokes?! It's very irritating

just sitting there waiting for a audio confirmation for a screen refresh and

being uneasy about refreshing manually! I'm referring to just browser use
and not anything to do with email issues. If anyone has any helpful tips
for this irritating issue as well, please suggest some setting changes that

might help with this problem. Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Ruby
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2021 8:02 PM
Subject: replying to a gmail message using html view


Hello Everyone,

When I reply to an email using gmail html view with microsoft edge or
any other browser I must hit f5 before I can work with the web page
again.

any suggestions to resolve this, it is annoying.

1 open gmail and click on a email to reply to
2. go down to the quick reply and enter text in the edit field and hit
the send button

At this point I can not do anything with the page until I press f5.

This even happens if I use default settings in jaws










moderated Re: voice assistant question

Joseph Hudson
 

Is anybody no if you can say hey Sharky when you're writing a reply to an email and she will insert the text of what you said into an email?

On Feb 6, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison
















moderated Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

 

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 02:53 PM, Barbara Black wrote:
I was using alt F4 which clearly just closed Drive
-
You're welcome and you're a perfect example of why I generally avoid CTRL+F4.   ALT+F4 becomes almost entirely engrained and automatic as frequently as it's used, and you have to think actively about CTRL+F4.  Often even when you are doing so, you'll slip up.

Since CTRL+W closes a browsing tab in any browser I've ever used I suggest it instead.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

Barbara Black
 

Excellent – thank you Brian and Edward!  I was using alt F4 which clearly just closed Drive

 

Barbara

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

 

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM, Edward Green wrote:

Control f4 should do it.

-
While it does, I've seen far too many accidents where the automatic ALT+F4 gets used and shuts down the browser.  Just a word of caution.  There's nothing wrong with CTRL+F4, I just prefer CTRL+W if you're dealing with browser tabs as it's less accident prone.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks

Cristóbal
 

We just upgraded to QuickBooks desktop after using QB 2009 all this time. My wife does the books for the business so as far as accessibility, I’m not really involved. I do know that we paid $650 for a three year license that includes full support and updates for that time period. The $650 was for two licensed users as my mom needed to upgrade for her business as well. It would have otherwise been something like $400 for just one user for three years. We also used eBates that gave us back 7.5% plus the credit card that gives us back 2% on purchases so that helped cancel out the sales tax.

QB should work like any other accounting software after that three year period as it’s just accounting after all, but without the benefits of tech support and whatever bells and whistles they come up with. The only reason we needed to upgrade is because of change of certain tax forms for subcontractors that QB 2009 wasn’t able to generate.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks

 

I wonder how long QuickBooks will continue to offer their desktop version since they really push QuickBooks Online. I don't know about the pricing of the desktop version, but I assume that in addition to the initial purchase price you still would also have some sort of annual cost. I now subscribed to the QuickBooks Online Plus plan which here in Canada ist $50 a month, but as a member of the Canadian Fedderation of Independent Business I get a 20% discount, so I am paying $40/month or $480 a year which is actually I think about the same or a bit less than I used to pay for the Sage 50 annual plan which gave me access to their yearly release version as well as bad technical support which I never used.

For many people the Essential subscription which here in Canada is $35 a month or even the Simple Start which is $20 a month probabably is enough, but for my retail business QuickBooks will be integrated with my point of sale system and if you want QuickBooks to handle inventory you need the Plus version.

I believe when I once inquired years ago the scripts were $750, add to this the cost of QuickBooks desktop and potentially an annual upgrade/maintenance plan and the subscription for the online version sounds pretty good. Of coruse there is also the benefit of being able to use the very accessible iOS app and to use it wherever you are and not just one your computer.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks

 

I strongly advise you to just pay for those scripts from My Blind Spot. Without them there is no way to run that program accessibly. Trust me, you will be bumbling about in the dark with nowhere to turn. You cant beat their customer support either.

 


moderated Re: voice assistant question

Richard Turner
 

I've never had any voice assistant, Siri, Sharky, Alexa, use swear words.

I know it happens, but I think one could make sure to speak distinctly and not in a noisy environment to reduce the errors.



Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question



My question is, why do voice assistant AI assume you want to use swear words? Can't they be programmed to be nice?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: "Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 -----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws
2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: voice assistant question

Marty Hutchings
 

My question is, why do voice assistant AI assume you want to use swear words? Can't they be programmed to be nice?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: voice assistant question

David Diamond
 

I agree. 98% of the time the dictate function gets what I am trying to say. Yes, it is ultimately the responsibility of the sender to make sure what is being sent is what one is truly saying with no grammatical or spelling mistakes. I find the dictate function invaluable when I need to check the weather or some such thing. If it is sunny currently but there is a chance of rain, I do not want to be caught on a mountain trail during a down poor. Dogs by enlarge don't care if they get wet, I don't want to be drenched just because I was too lazy to check the weather.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 6, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

 

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM, Edward Green wrote:
Control f4 should do it.
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While it does, I've seen far too many accidents where the automatic ALT+F4 gets used and shuts down the browser.  Just a word of caution.  There's nothing wrong with CTRL+F4, I just prefer CTRL+W if you're dealing with browser tabs as it's less accident prone.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

 

I have never changed the defaults, and any time I open a document in Google Docs (regardless of the specific type, docx, xlsx, etc.) that gets opened in its own tab (or window, if you have your browser set up to use new windows instead).  Just closing the tab with CTRL+W throws me right back to the Google Drive tab to look for the next thing.  Mind you, if you open multiple documents the Google Drive tab will be several steps to the left of where you are, and if you don't close all the things you've opened you'll need to navigate back there manually.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

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