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moderated Re: voice assistant question

David Diamond
 

I agree. 98% of the time the dictate function gets what I am trying to say. Yes, it is ultimately the responsibility of the sender to make sure what is being sent is what one is truly saying with no grammatical or spelling mistakes. I find the dictate function invaluable when I need to check the weather or some such thing. If it is sunny currently but there is a chance of rain, I do not want to be caught on a mountain trail during a down poor. Dogs by enlarge don't care if they get wet, I don't want to be drenched just because I was too lazy to check the weather.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 6, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison
moderated Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

Brian Vogel
 

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM, Edward Green wrote:
Control f4 should do it.
-
While it does, I've seen far too many accidents where the automatic ALT+F4 gets used and shuts down the browser.  Just a word of caution.  There's nothing wrong with CTRL+F4, I just prefer CTRL+W if you're dealing with browser tabs as it's less accident prone.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide
moderated Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

Brian Vogel
 

I have never changed the defaults, and any time I open a document in Google Docs (regardless of the specific type, docx, xlsx, etc.) that gets opened in its own tab (or window, if you have your browser set up to use new windows instead).  Just closing the tab with CTRL+W throws me right back to the Google Drive tab to look for the next thing.  Mind you, if you open multiple documents the Google Drive tab will be several steps to the left of where you are, and if you don't close all the things you've opened you'll need to navigate back there manually.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide
moderated Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another

Edward Green
 

Hi Barbara,

Control f4 should do it.

Cheers,

Ed

On 6 February 2021 17:37:08 "Barbara Black" <barbarablack413@...> wrote:

Hi-

I’m sure this is very simple and obvious but I cann’t figure out how to close a Google Doc while staying in Drive. For instance, I go to my  Drive, open a Google Doc, read it and want to close it and go to another Google Doc on my Drive.

 

 

Instructions would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks

Barbara
moderated moving from 1 Google doc to another

Barbara Black
 

Hi-

I’m sure this is very simple and obvious but I cann’t figure out how to close a Google Doc while staying in Drive. For instance, I go to my  Drive, open a Google Doc, read it and want to close it and go to another Google Doc on my Drive.

 

 

Instructions would be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks

Barbara
moderated Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

Chris Hill
 

Yeh, that happens now and then.  I have yet to find a pattern to it. 



On 2/6/2021 10:45, Dan Longmore wrote:

The problem occurs whether or not you get the message.  Sometimes JAWS loses focus and just stops speaking.  Then after I tab away and back to current window JAWS works again.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Interesting.  I wonder if this has anything to do with a verbosity setting.  I have never gotten a lost focus message, but I've always tried to reduce unnecessary verbiage from jaws whenever I found a way.

 

 

On 2/6/2021 08:55, Dan Longmore wrote:

Hi,

  “Lost Focus” announcements will continue no matter the repairs or installs.  This is an ongoing issue that Freedom really needs to get a handle on .

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Good afternoon everyone, 

First, how would I go about doing a repair of Jaws 2021,  and can you remove a specific  update.  ,  I’m asking because whenever my computer boots up, I keep getting a lot of lost focus messages. Next, after I type whatever the subject line and tab to the edit field,  it indicates a dash     

Second, In the settings menu under the utilities option,  there isn’t anything about  enabling the  voice assistant.

Thanks in advance

for any and all help advice and suggestions,       

Al 

moderated Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

Dan Longmore
 

The problem occurs whether or not you get the message.  Sometimes JAWS loses focus and just stops speaking.  Then after I tab away and back to current window JAWS works again.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Interesting.  I wonder if this has anything to do with a verbosity setting.  I have never gotten a lost focus message, but I've always tried to reduce unnecessary verbiage from jaws whenever I found a way.

 

 

On 2/6/2021 08:55, Dan Longmore wrote:

Hi,

  “Lost Focus” announcements will continue no matter the repairs or installs.  This is an ongoing issue that Freedom really needs to get a handle on .

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Good afternoon everyone, 

First, how would I go about doing a repair of Jaws 2021,  and can you remove a specific  update.  ,  I’m asking because whenever my computer boots up, I keep getting a lot of lost focus messages. Next, after I type whatever the subject line and tab to the edit field,  it indicates a dash     

Second, In the settings menu under the utilities option,  there isn’t anything about  enabling the  voice assistant.

Thanks in advance

for any and all help advice and suggestions,       

Al 

moderated Re: voice assistant question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison
moderated Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I wonder how long QuickBooks will continue to offer their desktop version since they really push QuickBooks Online. I don't know about the pricing of the desktop version, but I assume that in addition to the initial purchase price you still would also have some sort of annual cost. I now subscribed to the QuickBooks Online Plus plan which here in Canada ist $50 a month, but as a member of the Canadian Fedderation of Independent Business I get a 20% discount, so I am paying $40/month or $480 a year which is actually I think about the same or a bit less than I used to pay for the Sage 50 annual plan which gave me access to their yearly release version as well as bad technical support which I never used.

For many people the Essential subscription which here in Canada is $35 a month or even the Simple Start which is $20 a month probabably is enough, but for my retail business QuickBooks will be integrated with my point of sale system and if you want QuickBooks to handle inventory you need the Plus version.

I believe when I once inquired years ago the scripts were $750, add to this the cost of QuickBooks desktop and potentially an annual upgrade/maintenance plan and the subscription for the online version sounds pretty good. Of coruse there is also the benefit of being able to use the very accessible iOS app and to use it wherever you are and not just one your computer.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks

 

I strongly advise you to just pay for those scripts from My Blind Spot. Without them there is no way to run that program accessibly. Trust me, you will be bumbling about in the dark with nowhere to turn. You cant beat their customer support either.

 
moderated Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

Chris Hill
 

Interesting.  I wonder if this has anything to do with a verbosity setting.  I have never gotten a lost focus message, but I've always tried to reduce unnecessary verbiage from jaws whenever I found a way.



On 2/6/2021 08:55, Dan Longmore wrote:

Hi,

  “Lost Focus” announcements will continue no matter the repairs or installs.  This is an ongoing issue that Freedom really needs to get a handle on .

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Good afternoon everyone, 

First, how would I go about doing a repair of Jaws 2021,  and can you remove a specific  update.  ,  I’m asking because whenever my computer boots up, I keep getting a lot of lost focus messages. Next, after I type whatever the subject line and tab to the edit field,  it indicates a dash     

Second, In the settings menu under the utilities option,  there isn’t anything about  enabling the  voice assistant.

Thanks in advance

for any and all help advice and suggestions,       

Al 

moderated Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  “Lost Focus” announcements will continue no matter the repairs or installs.  This is an ongoing issue that Freedom really needs to get a handle on .

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Good afternoon everyone, 

First, how would I go about doing a repair of Jaws 2021,  and can you remove a specific  update.  ,  I’m asking because whenever my computer boots up, I keep getting a lot of lost focus messages. Next, after I type whatever the subject line and tab to the edit field,  it indicates a dash     

Second, In the settings menu under the utilities option,  there isn’t anything about  enabling the  voice assistant.

Thanks in advance

for any and all help advice and suggestions,       

Al 

moderated Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  On occasion JAWS does go to the next open window but like you I am seeing an increasing number of “Lost Focus” announcements. I realize that the OS and systems are continually changing yet I would like to see JAWS developers make this fix a priority.

 

Dan  

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 4:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

 

I have noticed that in older versions of JAWS, when I would close a program, JAWS would focus on the program or desk top that I hade open.  Now, I get the Lost Focus announcement when closing programs.  Why doesn’t JAWS know where to focus any more?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2021 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Hi Al,

 

Are you running Windows 7 or 10?  The Voice Asisstant won't show in Windows 7 since it's not availble for Windows 7.

 

For your Focus problem, try opening quick settings with, Jaws key + V, and type, focus, in the search field.

When the results populate you should have 1 result, Focus loss announcement, make sure this is unchecked.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2021 9:55 AM

Subject: Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

I hope someone can answer about removing updates, but I am doubtful that can be done.

You can run the .exe file that you used to install Jaws 2021 and you will have an option to repair.

 

For me, the first item under Utilities is the voice assistant.

Are you sure you are on 2021?

 

I thought there was an option about the lost focus messages, but I’m not finding it right now.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 9:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.

 

Good afternoon everyone, 

First, how would I go about doing a repair of Jaws 2021,  and can you remove a specific  update.  ,  I’m asking because whenever my computer boots up, I keep getting a lot of lost focus messages. Next, after I type whatever the subject line and tab to the edit field,  it indicates a dash    

Second, In the settings menu under the utilities option,  there isn’t anything about  enabling the  voice assistant.

Thanks in advance

for any and all help advice and suggestions,      

Al 

moderated Re: OCR and JAWS

Soronel Haetir
 

And note that if you just want to view a word document but do not
actually have word MS publishes a little Doc Viewer program to do that
(https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/doc-viewer/9n69kfjds28z). Also,
recent versions of wordpad can very often open word documents.

On 2/5/21, Tom Lange <lange85@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I‘ve used the newest versions of convenient OCR often and haven’t found a
way to send the text to any program other than Word. If you want to place
the text in Wordpad, Notepad or anywhere in particular, your best bet is to
select all the text with ctrl+a, copy it to the clipboard and paste it where
you want it.
Hope that helps.

Tom

On Feb 5, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Tony Sohl <tonysohl@samobile.net> wrote:

Hi I have a question about jaws and the ocr option.

You can open the document in word however we might be loosing our word
subscription. Can you tell the ocr to open the file in word;ad?








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Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com
moderated Re: voice assistant question

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

The wake word is Sharky

Randy Barnett

On Feb 5, 2021, at 9:35 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@outlook.com> wrote:

Perhaps I never used the word wake.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

It's on by default.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: February 5, 2021 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things
if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate
function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something
entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky"
So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on
your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of
it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it
would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word
to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all
possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison
moderated Re: voice assistant question

David Diamond
 

Perhaps I never used the word wake.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

It's on by default.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: February 5, 2021 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: voice assistant question

I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things
if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate
function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something
entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky"
So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on
your computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: voice assistant question

Hi all,
On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of
it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it
would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word
to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all
possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004.
Thanks
Madison
moderated Re: OCR and JAWS

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
I‘ve used the newest versions of convenient OCR often and haven’t found a way to send the text to any program other than Word. If you want to place the text in Wordpad, Notepad or anywhere in particular, your best bet is to select all the text with ctrl+a, copy it to the clipboard and paste it where you want it.
Hope that helps.

Tom

On Feb 5, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Tony Sohl <tonysohl@samobile.net> wrote:

Hi I have a question about jaws and the ocr option.

You can open the document in word however we might be loosing our word subscription. Can you tell the ocr to open the file in word;ad?
moderated Re: replying to a gmail message using html view

Mike B.
 


Hi Jim,
 
 I have this same issue when working with any of the chromium browsers when activating buttons or links!  Why in the hell are the chromium browsers so slow to respond to screen reader programs keystrokes?!  It's very irritating just sitting there waiting for a audio confirmation for a screen refresh and being uneasy about refreshing manually!  I'm referring to just browser use and not anything to do with email issues.  If anyone has any helpful tips for this irritating issue as well, please suggest some setting changes that might help with this problem.  Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Ruby
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2021 8:02 PM
Subject: replying to a gmail message using html view

Hello Everyone,

When I reply to an email using gmail html view with microsoft edge or
any other browser I must hit f5 before I can work with the web page
again.

any suggestions to resolve this, it is annoying.

1 open gmail and click on a email to reply to
2. go down to the quick reply and enter text in the edit field and hit
the send button

At this point I can not do anything with the page until I press f5.

This even happens if I use default settings in jaws
moderated replying to a gmail message using html view

Jim Ruby
 

Hello Everyone,

When I reply to an email using gmail html view with microsoft edge or
any other browser I must hit f5 before I can work with the web page
again.

any suggestions to resolve this, it is annoying.

1 open gmail and click on a email to reply to
2. go down to the quick reply and enter text in the edit field and hit
the send button

At this point I can not do anything with the page until I press f5.

This even happens if I use default settings in jaws
moderated OCR and JAWS

Tony Sohl
 

Hi I have a question about jaws and the ocr option.

You can open the document in word however we might be loosing our word subscription. Can you tell the ocr to open the file in word;ad?
moderated Re: Question about OneNote, & saving things

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

 

Thanks so much.

 

That answers my question.

 

Best regards,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Roy Robinson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about OneNote, & saving things

 

Hello Jessica,  I really enjoy OneNote and have become quite dependent upon it.

{caveat} I may not fully understand your question, here goes. 

I would select all of the text that I want, even including more than I need.
Copy & Paste into OneNote.  Then delete the text I dont want and/or rearrange the text captured.
Sometimes the format of the info pasted is strangely formatted.  I find that OneNote Paste has three alternate Paste-as choices.

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