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moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

David Griffith
 

No Kurzweil nowadays comes with ETI Eloquence and Voice Ware Kate Paul and latterly James in later versions (AKA Neospeech).

I started out with version 11 I think but am on version 14 now. It is possible Dec Talk was available in earlier incarnations.

I have never had access to Dec Talk with Kurzweil but would have been interested in giving it a try if it was available.

David G.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 February 2021 18:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

I thought K1000 shipped with software DecTalk? At least, that’s what it sounds like. I had it in the early 2000s and it was sure not Eloquence then.

 

I like Eloquence for every day use. The reason you can’t hear those high frequencies is – well, they’re not there. It’s an 11khz synth. It’s been around forever and comes from a time when that was pretty n ormal, and there hasn’t really been any need to change it. I have the IBM TTS for nVDA that sounds a lot like Eloquence, but withs ome small pronunciation differences and a little bit more frequency response.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: February 2, 2021 01:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

Robin:

 

I don't like eloquence either.  The version that used to ship with k1000 was better, but the one with jaws sounds like audio above a certain frequency is completely missing.  I use Tom Premium High on Jaws and my phone both, it seems about the best, and since I can have it on both, things are usually mis-pronounced everywhere, which bothers me less.

 

I used to have a Dec express, I wish I could get that voice back, maybe without the problem of not being able to shut it up quickly, that might be the best of all worlds.

 

 

On 2/2/2021 10:07, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Chris,

It’s been a while, but, even on my iPhone, I think there is more inflection in the full or enhanced versions.  I was a Window Eyes user with Dec Talk for many years, so I don’t mind the robotic sounds of Eloquence, but there is something to the about the voices that I find hard or fuzzy to my hearing, not the diction, but the audio quality.  I like the sound clarity in Vocalizer Nathan the most, despite some of its pronunciation quirks. I like that the Compact voices are less emotive and more steady.  I’m also not one who listens to speech super-fast, so that isn’t a concern to me. I’m faster than the default for sure, but not the rocket speed I hear others use. I’m not diagnosed as hearing impaired, but have some sort of issues with my hearing of certain frequencies or tones.  I also like Microsoft Mobile Mike for clarity.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

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Hello.

 

Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just pronounced words, they wouldn't work near as well.  It becomes obvious when they guess wrong.  May I ask why you are using the compact version of the voice?  These are always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware won't have trouble with the full one.

 

 

On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I noted, this is not the first case.  Do other people notice similar issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all? 

 

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

 

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

Robin Van Lant

 




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moderated Re: MP3gain installation

David Griffith
 

It is certainly not beta but best of luck anyway.

David G.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Audiobookfan
Sent: 01 February 2021 21:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MP3gain installation

 

I was trying to install version 1.2.5. I think the version you mention

below is a beta and I'd prefer not to use beta software. I only need the

basic functionality of mp3gain.

 

Also, no one has addressed my question about whether I need the updated

files in the full installation of mp3gain or if the version included in

Windows 10 will work. This is an important question to me because I

don't want to have to deal with trying to undo something I've done.

 

Thanks,

Jeff

 

 

On 2/1/2021 8:11 AM, David Griffith wrote:

> MP3Gain GUI Version 1.03.0004 is working fine here.

>

> What version are you trying to install?

>

> David G.

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

> *From: *Audiobookfan <mailto:listening4it@...>

> *Sent: *01 February 2021 08:52

> *To: *jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

> *Subject: *MP3gain installation

>

> I'm wanting to install mp3gain on my Windows 10 computer and I'm

>

> wondering if there are any issues/risks or gotchas that I should know

>

> about. I launched the installer and got a dialog that indicated that

>

> some necessary files might be missing or out of date. It did give me the

>

> option to install anyway. I'm thinking that I read something in the past

>

> about updating these files might mess up Jaws functionality, but I'm not

>

> sure about that. Can anyone confirm or deny this issue? Should I grab

>

> the full version of mp3gain or just go ahead and install the standard

>

> version? Will the standard version work with the files that come with

>

> Windows 10?

>

> Do I need to be cautious of the download from SourceForge? I also am

>

> concerned that some installers might be bundled with bloatware. Is this

>

> a concern I need to worry about? If so, can anyone point me to a clean

>

> version of mp3gain?

>

> Is there anything else I should be aware of before installing mp3gain?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jeff

>

>

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

JM Casey
 

I thought K1000 shipped with software DecTalk? At least, that’s what it sounds like. I had it in the early 2000s and it was sure not Eloquence then.

 

I like Eloquence for every day use. The reason you can’t hear those high frequencies is – well, they’re not there. It’s an 11khz synth. It’s been around forever and comes from a time when that was pretty n ormal, and there hasn’t really been any need to change it. I have the IBM TTS for nVDA that sounds a lot like Eloquence, but withs ome small pronunciation differences and a little bit more frequency response.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: February 2, 2021 01:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

Robin:

 

I don't like eloquence either.  The version that used to ship with k1000 was better, but the one with jaws sounds like audio above a certain frequency is completely missing.  I use Tom Premium High on Jaws and my phone both, it seems about the best, and since I can have it on both, things are usually mis-pronounced everywhere, which bothers me less.

 

I used to have a Dec express, I wish I could get that voice back, maybe without the problem of not being able to shut it up quickly, that might be the best of all worlds.

 

 

On 2/2/2021 10:07, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Chris,

It’s been a while, but, even on my iPhone, I think there is more inflection in the full or enhanced versions.  I was a Window Eyes user with Dec Talk for many years, so I don’t mind the robotic sounds of Eloquence, but there is something to the about the voices that I find hard or fuzzy to my hearing, not the diction, but the audio quality.  I like the sound clarity in Vocalizer Nathan the most, despite some of its pronunciation quirks. I like that the Compact voices are less emotive and more steady.  I’m also not one who listens to speech super-fast, so that isn’t a concern to me. I’m faster than the default for sure, but not the rocket speed I hear others use. I’m not diagnosed as hearing impaired, but have some sort of issues with my hearing of certain frequencies or tones.  I also like Microsoft Mobile Mike for clarity.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

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Hello.

 

Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just pronounced words, they wouldn't work near as well.  It becomes obvious when they guess wrong.  May I ask why you are using the compact version of the voice?  These are always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware won't have trouble with the full one.

 

 

On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I noted, this is not the first case.  Do other people notice similar issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all? 

 

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

 

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

Robin Van Lant

 




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moderated Re: Outlook Files Default Folder

Richard Turner
 

I’d call Microsoft Accessibility for this one, though someone probably knows how to do that without messing things up.

 

 

 

Richard

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 9:48 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Outlook Files Default Folder

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 10 latest 20H2 and J2021 latest.  How can I change the default Outlook Files folder from the Documents location and move the default folder location somewhere else? 

Also, how can i turn off the size of each message being spoken?

 

 All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

Chris Hill
 

Robin:


I don't like eloquence either.  The version that used to ship with k1000 was better, but the one with jaws sounds like audio above a certain frequency is completely missing.  I use Tom Premium High on Jaws and my phone both, it seems about the best, and since I can have it on both, things are usually mis-pronounced everywhere, which bothers me less.


I used to have a Dec express, I wish I could get that voice back, maybe without the problem of not being able to shut it up quickly, that might be the best of all worlds.



On 2/2/2021 10:07, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Chris,

It’s been a while, but, even on my iPhone, I think there is more inflection in the full or enhanced versions.  I was a Window Eyes user with Dec Talk for many years, so I don’t mind the robotic sounds of Eloquence, but there is something to the about the voices that I find hard or fuzzy to my hearing, not the diction, but the audio quality.  I like the sound clarity in Vocalizer Nathan the most, despite some of its pronunciation quirks. I like that the Compact voices are less emotive and more steady.  I’m also not one who listens to speech super-fast, so that isn’t a concern to me. I’m faster than the default for sure, but not the rocket speed I hear others use. I’m not diagnosed as hearing impaired, but have some sort of issues with my hearing of certain frequencies or tones.  I also like Microsoft Mobile Mike for clarity.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Hello.

 

Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just pronounced words, they wouldn't work near as well.  It becomes obvious when they guess wrong.  May I ask why you are using the compact version of the voice?  These are always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware won't have trouble with the full one.

 

 

On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I noted, this is not the first case.  Do other people notice similar issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all? 

 

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

 

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

Robin Van Lant

 




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moderated Outlook Files Default Folder

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
Running Windows 10 latest 20H2 and J2021 latest.  How can I change the default Outlook Files folder from the Documents location and move the default folder location somewhere else? 
Also, how can i turn off the size of each message being spoken?
 
 All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

Van Lant, Robin
 

Chris,

It’s been a while, but, even on my iPhone, I think there is more inflection in the full or enhanced versions.  I was a Window Eyes user with Dec Talk for many years, so I don’t mind the robotic sounds of Eloquence, but there is something to the about the voices that I find hard or fuzzy to my hearing, not the diction, but the audio quality.  I like the sound clarity in Vocalizer Nathan the most, despite some of its pronunciation quirks. I like that the Compact voices are less emotive and more steady.  I’m also not one who listens to speech super-fast, so that isn’t a concern to me. I’m faster than the default for sure, but not the rocket speed I hear others use. I’m not diagnosed as hearing impaired, but have some sort of issues with my hearing of certain frequencies or tones.  I also like Microsoft Mobile Mike for clarity.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Hello.

 

Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just pronounced words, they wouldn't work near as well.  It becomes obvious when they guess wrong.  May I ask why you are using the compact version of the voice?  These are always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware won't have trouble with the full one.

 

 

On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I noted, this is not the first case.  Do other people notice similar issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all? 

 

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

 

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

Robin Van Lant

 




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moderated Creating Pandoc tables with JFW?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
 

Hi, how can I create Pandoc tables in Markdown with JAWS? I need to align spaces somehow, but how to do?

--
Best regards,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki


moderated Re: Optimal email setup for Windows 10 with JAWS

Richard Turner
 

I’ve always had the reading pane set to off.

It used to be that malware/viruses could be launched if the reading/preview pane was on.  I don’t know if that is still true, but the reading email experience is much improved having that off.

 

I would stick with Outlook and not bother with Windows built-in mail client.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 7:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Optimal email setup for Windows 10 with JAWS

 

Hi Jim,

As far as Outlook is concerned: Open Outlook, press JAWS key+f1 twice quickly to bring up the Outlook help topic and select "Outlook helpful hints."

This will run through what you need to set/change.

Cheers,

Ed

On 2 February 2021 13:50:42 "James Benstead" <james.benstead@...> wrote:

I always try to use JAWS with the full version of Outlook, and to configure it in a certain way (e.g. no preview pane). Is there an accepted optimal way to configure Outlook to work with JAWS? Or does anyone have any specific tips that make Outlook work well with JAWS?

 

Also, would anyone advise using the built-in Windows Mail client with JAWS? I have problems using tab and F6 to navigate through everything, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

 

Jim

 

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moderated Re: Optimal email setup for Windows 10 with JAWS

Edward Green
 

Hi Jim,

As far as Outlook is concerned: Open Outlook, press JAWS key+f1 twice quickly to bring up the Outlook help topic and select "Outlook helpful hints."

This will run through what you need to set/change.

Cheers,

Ed

On 2 February 2021 13:50:42 "James Benstead" <james.benstead@...> wrote:

I always try to use JAWS with the full version of Outlook, and to configure it in a certain way (e.g. no preview pane). Is there an accepted optimal way to configure Outlook to work with JAWS? Or does anyone have any specific tips that make Outlook work well with JAWS?

Also, would anyone advise using the built-in Windows Mail client with JAWS? I have problems using tab and F6 to navigate through everything, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

Jim

--
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moderated Optimal email setup for Windows 10 with JAWS

James Benstead
 

I always try to use JAWS with the full version of Outlook, and to configure it in a certain way (e.g. no preview pane). Is there an accepted optimal way to configure Outlook to work with JAWS? Or does anyone have any specific tips that make Outlook work well with JAWS?

Also, would anyone advise using the built-in Windows Mail client with JAWS? I have problems using tab and F6 to navigate through everything, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

Jim

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moderated Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks

Andrew James Bontrager
 

I strongly advise you to just pay for those scripts from My Blind Spot. Without them there is no way to run that program accessibly. Trust me, you will be bumbling about in the dark with nowhere to turn. You cant beat their customer support either.
 


moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

Soronel Haetir
 

In this case even the full versions have problems, at least Samantha does.

On 2/1/21, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hello.


Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just pronounced words,
they wouldn't work near as well.  It becomes obvious when they guess
wrong.  May I ask why you are using the compact version of the voice?
These are always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware won't
have trouble with the full one.



On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the
first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the
question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming
new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the
colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by
word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same
thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes
Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft
Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I
noted, this is not the first case. Do other people notice similar
issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would
be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all?

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in
my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite
surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common
words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first
thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

*Robin Van Lant*




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moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

Chris Hill
 

Hello.


Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just pronounced words, they wouldn't work near as well.  It becomes obvious when they guess wrong.  May I ask why you are using the compact version of the voice?  These are always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware won't have trouble with the full one.



On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I noted, this is not the first case.  Do other people notice similar issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all? 

 

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

 

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

Robin Van Lant

 




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moderated Re: Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

Soronel Haetir
 

Yes, I have noticed this. Sometimes the synthesizer is even correct
(English does have words that are pronounced differently depending on
context, though this does not strike me as such a case.

Eloquence was made to be usable at very high speeds while sacrificing
'naturalness', Vocalizer is intended to sound natural but cannot
achieve nearly the speed that Eloquence can and in the end it
generally does a 'good enough' job.

And yes, Samantha also mispronounces it in this instance, saying
something like 'croass'. There are a few '--ross' words that have an
'oh' but doing a quick search through a words list they are greatly
outnumbered by those using an 'aw'.

On 2/1/21, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
I'm using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021. This is not the first
case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question. I was
reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires. I thought
there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced
if I read the cell. If I read word by word, it says the word fine. I
pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner
except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it. I've switched to
Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this
issue. As I noted, this is not the first case. Do other people notice
similar issues with Vocalizer? Is there a technical reason why a word would
be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all?

Here is the college. The last word is the issue. I have fixed it in my
dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.
College of the Holy Cross

I really love the sound of Nathan's compact voice, but am quite surprised
by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words. Even the
opposite of "Female" is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new
dictionary file.

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.
Robin Van Lant




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information. If you have received this communication in error, please
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is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change
without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for
its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of
the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

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FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association ("KeyBank
N.A."). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital
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moderated Vocalizer and difference in pronunciation

Van Lant, Robin
 

Hi,

I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact with JAWS 2021.  This is not the first case, but is striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.  I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming new hires.  I thought there was a typo, because the name of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the cell.  If I read word by word, it says the word fine.  I pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs. Reading in any manner except word by word, causes Vocalizer to mispronounce it.  I’ve switched to Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which do not have this issue.  As I noted, this is not the first case.  Do other people notice similar issues with Vocalizer?  Is there a technical reason why a word would be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by line or say all? 

 

Here is the college.  The last word is the issue.  I have fixed it in my dictionary manager for now by adding a third s to the word.

College of the Holy Cross

 

I really love the sound  of Nathan’s compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the strange pronunciations it has for common words.  Even the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office 365.

Robin Van Lant

 




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This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

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moderated Re: MP3gain installation

 

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 04:55 PM, Audiobookfan wrote:
I was trying to install version 1.2.5. I think the version you mention below is a beta and I'd prefer not to use beta software.
-
You are correct.

I'd simply download a fresh copy of the installer from the official download page:  http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php 
 
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moderated Re: MP3gain installation

Audiobookfan
 

I was trying to install version 1.2.5. I think the version you mention below is a beta and I'd prefer not to use beta software. I only need the basic functionality of mp3gain.

Also, no one has addressed my question about whether I need the updated files in the full installation of mp3gain or if the version included in Windows 10 will work. This is an important question to me because I don't want to have to deal with trying to undo something I've done.

Thanks,
Jeff

On 2/1/2021 8:11 AM, David Griffith wrote:
MP3Gain GUI Version 1.03.0004 is working fine here.
What version are you trying to install?
David G.
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Audiobookfan <mailto:listening4it@gmail.com>
*Sent: *01 February 2021 08:52
*To: *jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Subject: *MP3gain installation
I'm wanting to install mp3gain on my Windows 10 computer and I'm
wondering if there are any issues/risks or gotchas that I should know
about. I launched the installer and got a dialog that indicated that
some necessary files might be missing or out of date. It did give me the
option to install anyway. I'm thinking that I read something in the past
about updating these files might mess up Jaws functionality, but I'm not
sure about that. Can anyone confirm or deny this issue? Should I grab
the full version of mp3gain or just go ahead and install the standard
version? Will the standard version work with the files that come with
Windows 10?
Do I need to be cautious of the download from SourceForge? I also am
concerned that some installers might be bundled with bloatware. Is this
a concern I need to worry about? If so, can anyone point me to a clean
version of mp3gain?
Is there anything else I should be aware of before installing mp3gain?
Thanks,
Jeff


moderated Re: error in last email.

Loy
 

You can get a copy of outlook on amazon.com
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 4:03 PM
Subject: error in last email.

I want to know if windows mail works with jaws 2021, and if not is there a place where I can get office 2019 at a discounted price? Jim


moderated Re: Removing Marks in Word

Mike B
 

Hi Vaughn,
 
I know and I was just kidding with you and you're very welcome.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2021 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Removing Marks in Word

Sorry, Mike, I wrote Mark, my bad!

 

Mike, again, thank you for the extensive list of commands and functions.

 

Vaughn

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Removing Marks in Word

 

Van, you're very welcome!

Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Vaughn Brown

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:54 PM

Subject: Re: Removing Marks in Word

 

Mark, this is fantastic! Really, thank you!

Vaughn

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Removing Marks in Word

 

Here's mor info that might be helpful from a few years ago:.  This was an answer I provided to a similar question on a different tech list

 

8/08/16  
Here you go:
 
PlaceMarkers

 

A PlaceMarker is a bookmark that you can easily add to a Web page, HTML, PDF,  or Word document, or form to mark a location. This is useful when you want
to  return to commonly used areas on a Web page, important sections or paragraphs of  an HTML document, or specific parts, such as required fields, of
a complicated  form. PlaceMarkers can be defined as temporary or permanent and can be anchored  to text, elements of the current Web page, or to a Web
site's domain. Multiple  PlaceMarkers can be added to HTML or PDF documents, while only one can be added  to a Word document.

 

The following describes how to add, rename, or delete PlaceMarkers. If you  are not familiar with PlaceMarkers and need more information, refer to
Important PlaceMarker Concepts.
For additional  PlaceMarker operation, refer to
Advanced PlaceMarker Usage.
For general information  about using PlaceMarkers in a Word document, refer to
Marking and Returning to a PlaceMarker in Word.

 

Adding a Temporary PlaceMarker

 

To quickly add a temporary PlaceMarker, do the following:

 

list of 3 items
1. Open a Web page, other HTML document, or Word document.
2. Move the virtual cursor to the location on the page where you want to put    the PlaceMarker.
3. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K. A temporary PlaceMarker now    appears on the page.

 

You can always jump to it using any of the    following
Navigation Quick Keys:
K, SHIFT+K, SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0, or CTRL+SHIFT+K. (The last keystroke opens the PlaceMarker List.    Select Temporary from the list, and
then choose the Move To button.)
list end

 

Selecting Between the Temporary PlaceMarker and the Cursor Position

 

To select text between a temporary PlaceMarker and your current position in a  Web page, HTML document, or Word document, do the following:

 

list of 2 items
1. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+k to set a temporary PlaceMarker.
2. Navigate to another location on the Web page or document, then press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M. All text between the temporary    PlaceMarker and your current
cursor position is selected and ready to be    copied to the Clipboard.
list end

 

This method is often easier than using the SHIFT Key in  conjunction with the ARROW keys when attempting to select large  blocks of text.

 

Adding Permanent PlaceMarkers to Web Pages or HTML Documents

 

To add a PlaceMarker, do the following:

 

list of 6 items
1. Open a Web page or other HTML document.
2. Move the virtual cursor to the location on the page where you want to put    the PlaceMarker.
3. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K and then ENTER.
The Add PlaceMarker dialog box opens with focus in the Name edit field. It    contains text that appears at the cursor location. If you want to change
the    PlaceMarker name, type a new name in this field; otherwise, press TAB to move to the next control.
4. The Define for All Pages on Current Domain check box is cleared by    default, which allows the PlaceMarker to be anchored only to the current Web
  page or HTML document. If you want to use this PlaceMarker so that it is    anchored to all pages within the current domain instead, press SPACEBAR to
select the check box. Press TAB to move to the next control.
5. The Anchor to Text check box is cleared by default. Select this check box    if you want to link the PlaceMarker with specific text, such as a heading,
   that appears on the page. This can be useful on frequently updated Web pages    where text and elements tend to drift from their original position.
When    selected, the next control, Anchor Text edit field, automatically populates    using the original text in the Name edit field. This guarantees
that the    PlaceMarker will always be associated with this text on the Web page.
6. Press TAB to navigate to the OK button and press SPACEBAR to close the dialog box and save the PlaceMarker.
list end

 

Renaming PlaceMarkers

 

To change the name of a PlaceMarker, do the following:

 

list of 5 items
1. Open the page containing the PlaceMarker you want to rename.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to display a list of PlaceMarkers on    this page.
3. Use the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys to    select the PlaceMarker.
4. Press SPACEBAR on the Change Name button or press ALT+C.
5. Enter a new name for the PlaceMarker and then press SPACEBAR on the OK button.
list end

 

Removing PlaceMarkers

 

To remove one or more PlaceMarkers, do the following:

 

list of 4 items
1. Open the page containing the PlaceMarker you want to delete.
2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to display a list of all PlaceMarkers    on the current page.
3. Use the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys to    select a PlaceMarker.
4. Press SPACEBAR on the Remove button or press ALT+R to delete the PlaceMarker.
list end

 

Tip: If you want to delete all PlaceMarkers  for this page, press SPACEBAR on the Remove All button or press ALT+L.

 

Important PlaceMarker Concepts

 

The following sections, PlaceMarker Keystrokes, Temporary versus Permanent  PlaceMarkers, and URL versus Domain PlaceMarkers, are key to understanding
 PlaceMarkers with JAWS.

 

PlaceMarker Keystrokes for Web Pages, HTML Documents, or Forms
list of 8 items
• Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K to insert a temporary    PlaceMarker.
• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M to select text between the    temporary PlaceMarker and your current cursor position.
• Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to open the PlaceMarker List dialog    box to add a new PlaceMarker, rename or change existing PlaceMarker    parameters, jump to
PlaceMarkers, or delete PlaceMarkers.
• Press K to jump to the next PlaceMarker.
• Press SHIFT+K to jump to the previous PlaceMarker.
• Press number row keys 7 through 0 to    hear the content of PlaceMarkers 1 through 4.
• Press SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0 to jump to PlaceMarkers 1 through 4.
• Press ALT+WINDOWS Key+K to speak all of the PlaceMarkers    on a Web page or in an HTML document.
list end

 

PlaceMarker Keystrokes for Word Documents
list of 3 items
• Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K to set a PlaceMarker at the    current cursor position. Only one PlaceMarker can be set per Word document.
• Press ALT+WINDOWS Key+K to return to the marker in a Word    document.
• Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M to select text or items from the    marker to the current cursor position.
list end

 

Temporary Versus Permanent PlaceMarkers

 

You can add a temporary PlaceMarker anywhere on a Web page by pressing CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K. This lets you easily mark a spot that you  can return to later
by pressing K. Only one temporary  PlaceMarker may be set per Web page. If you later decide to move the temporary  PlaceMarker to a different place on
the Web page, just move the Virtual Cursor  to that new location and press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K again.

 

If you want to make the temporary PlaceMarker permanent, press CTRL+SHIFT+K to open the PlaceMarker List dialog box and add it  to the list, which lets
you keep and maintain multiple PlaceMarkers on the Web  page, HTML document, or form. The last location where you set a temporary  PlaceMarker is saved
until you move it again, or remove the PlaceMarker from the  PlaceMarkers List dialog. You can browse to other Web pages, exit JAWS, even  restart your
computer, and your temporary and permanent PlaceMarkers are  preserved.

 

URL Versus Domain PlaceMarkers

 

JAWS lets you assign PlaceMarkers to either the current Web address (the URL  displayed in the Address bar) or domain (the overall Web site name). The
URL  (uniform resource locator) is the Web address displayed in the address bar. You  can only use PlaceMarkers assigned to the current URL when you are
visiting that  page.

 

Individual Web pages are contained within a domain. The domain's name is  usually the first portion of the page's Web address and ends with .com, .net,
 .org, .gov, .edu, or similar suffix. When you add a domain PlaceMarker to a Web  page, you can use that PlaceMarker on any page within the current domain.
Since  many sites use a consistent design for all of their pages, the placement of  links, graphics, buttons, and form fields is often similar. If this
is the case,  you can use a single domain PlaceMarker to navigate many other pages on the  site.

 

For example, if a Web site has a Search box located at the top of each page,  you can put a domain PlaceMarker there named "Search." You can then use this
 PlaceMarker to move to the Search box on any page in the domain, regardless of  the URL.

 

Advanced PlaceMarker Usage

 

The following describes other ways to customize and display PlaceMarkers.

 

Sharing PlaceMarkers

 

You can use Settings Packager to share your PlaceMarkers for a Web site with  other JAWS users. Settings Packager is a program that lets you save speech
and  sound schemes, PlaceMarkers, and personalized Web settings in a compressed .zip  file that you can send in an e-mail message, post on a Web site,
or copy to  removable storage media. You can also use Settings Packager to import the  settings contained in these .zip files into JAWS. To start Settings
Packager,  press INSERT+F2, select "Settings Packager," and press ENTER. For more information on using this program, open the  Settings Packager Help menu
and choose Help Topics.

 

To share your PlaceMarkers with other JAWS users without using Settings  Packager:

 

list of 4 items
1. Open your JAWS user settings folder from the Start Menu, All Programs,    JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Explore JAWS, Explore My    Settings.

 

2. Move to the PlaceMarkers folder and press ENTER.
3. PlaceMarker information is stored in .PMI files. Locate the .PMI file with    the same name as the page containing the PlaceMarkers you want to share.

 

4. Copy this file and distribute it to other users. These users then need to    copy the .PMI file on their PlaceMarkers folder by going to the Start Menu,
   All Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Explore JAWS,    Explore My Settings and open the PlaceMarkers folder. The users can now
   navigate that HTML page with your PlaceMarkers.
list end

 

Custom Page Summary

 

When you open an HTML page, the Custom Page Summary feature automatically  lists each PlaceMarker on the page and its associated text. This lets you  quickly
review the text located near your PlaceMarkers so you can hear any  changes or updates to those areas of the page. To enable or disable this  feature,
do the following:

 

list of 4 items
1. Open Settings Center (INSERT+F2) or Quick Settings    (INSERT+V).
2. In the Search edit box, type "PlaceMarker" without the quotes.
3. Press DOWN ARROW to move to Custom PlaceMarker Page    Summary in the filtered results of the tree view. (Note that for Web browsers,    this option
appears in both the Virtual Cursor Options group and the    Personalized Web Settings group.)
4. Press SPACEBAR to toggle through the following settings.
list end
list of 3 items
• Select "Speak PlaceMarkers on Page Load" to have JAWS read the name of    each PlaceMarker on the current page as well as the text that appears near
the    PlaceMarker's location.
• Select "List PlaceMarkers in Results Viewer on Page Load" to have JAWS    display the PlaceMarker information for the page in the Results Viewer. The
   Results Viewer provides a link with the name of the PlaceMarker and the text    that appears near the PlaceMarker's location on the page. You can use
the ARROW keys to move to a link and then press ENTER to move to that PlaceMarker.
• Select "Do Nothing" to have JAWS provide a custom page summary.
list end

 

See also:

 

PlaceMarkers in Word

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:41 PM

Subject: Re: Removing Marks in Word

 

Hi Adrian,

 

This was the only answer I could find when searching for how to remove placemarks or temporary placemarks.  Well, what I should say is that all the answers I found pretty much said this same thing.  But, when I placed a temporary placemark in a DOCX file, and tried to have Jaws report it's ASCII code or whatever it's called I couldn't get one.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:18 PM

Subject: Re: Removing Marks in Word

 

Mike,

 

Like you, I’m confused by Vaughn’s question. I’m not sure he’s using Word. If he is, you’re right that only one placemarker can be set, and it’s temporary. Set another placemarker, and the previous one is automatically removed. At any rate, that’s true through Outlook 2016.

 

As you know, it is possible to set more than one placemarker on webpages. I wonder if Vaughn is using some sort of semi-webpage text program.

 

Finally, to avoid confusion, the markers cited in the “featured snippet” are for revealing paragraph markers, an unrelated issue that came up on this list recently.

 

Vaughn, if you’ve solved the problem, great. Otherwise, please post the name and version of the program you’re using. Knowing Mike, he’ll either have the answer or find it for you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Removing Marks in Word

 

Hi Vaughn,

 

I don't know if my answer is going to help you much but, here goes.  When you create a temporary placemark in a Word doc that's exactly what you're doing but, when you make a second placemark you're not making a second placemark, you're only moving the original placemark since only 1 placemark can be used at a time in a Word doc, from what I understand.

 

Knowing what version of Word you're running would be helpful along with which operating system, but since we're working ginerically the answer will be gineric as well.  Here you go:

Featured snippet from the web
Word - Remove all table of authority markers
list of 5 items
1. Click the Show/Hide Paragraph Markers tool on the Home tab to show the
Paragraph markers. (The rest of the directions will not work if this step is
not taken)
2. Press Ctrl+H to display the Find and Replace dialog box.
3. In the Find What box, enter ^19 TA.
4. Make sure that nothing is in the Replace With box.
5. Click Replace All.
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Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Vaughn Brown

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 2:41 PM

Subject: Removing Marks in Word

 

Hello, listers,

 

I am doing a great deal of research for my final semester in graduate school. As a result I am marking spots in lengthy texts with CTL+Windows+K and finding them with ALT+Windows+K. How do I remove these markings?

 

Thank you,

 

Vaughn

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