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moderated Re: Windows emoji picker

 

Hi,
You need to use left or right arrow keys to move among emojis in the current emoji category.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

using JAWS 2020, I noticed that pressing Windows+period or
Windows+semicolon doesn't announce that the emoji picker window is open,
but arrowing down and then up, it is announced, 😊 selected. Selected contain 44 items." so how do I navigate to those other 44 items?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shirley Tracy [mailto:shirleytracy16@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, January 29, 2021, 2:17 PM
Subject: Windows emoji picker
Thanks.

Shirley Tracy

*From: *John Doering <mailto:john.doering@ibvi.org>
*Sent: *Friday, January 29, 2021 9:07 AM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Windows emoji picker

Shirley:

What works for me.

Enter on the one you want.

Hit escape to get out of the list.

Then it should be in your Email.

Send as usual.

HTH,

*John Doering*
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org <https://ibvi.org>

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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2021 8:04 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Windows emoji picker

Thank you for this. I didn’t ask the question, but I paid attention to your answer. But how do I actually select the one I want to enter? I can’t seem to activate any particular one.

Thanks.

Shirley Tracy

*From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:09 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Windows emoji picker

Hi,

By default emoji panel shows recently used emojis. You can press Tab to move between emojis and categories, then from categories list, use left or right arrows to move between categories such as (most recently used”, “people”, “celebrations and objects” and what not and press Enter to activate a given category. Emoji panel will remember your category selection the next time you open it.

Cheers,

Jsoeph

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ford
*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:06 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Windows emoji picker

With the Windows key + ., I get a short list of emojis, but there are obviously many more. Is there some web page or other option? Or, is there some way to expand the short emoji list I got from windows + .?

Tim Ford

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] *On Behalf Of *Jim Portillo
*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:52 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Windows emoji picker

If you use the Windows-Period, it will take you into a list of them.
This is in Word.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ford
*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:28 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Windows emoji picker

Hello All,

How do I find the Windows list of emoji symbols, and use JAWS to insert that into a text box?

Tim Ford


.


moderated Re: Windows emoji picker

Mario
 

using JAWS 2020, I noticed that pressing Windows+period or Windows+semicolon doesn't announce that the emoji picker window is open, but arrowing down and then up, it is announced, 😊 selected. Selected contain 44 items." so how do I navigate to those other 44 items?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shirley Tracy [mailto:shirleytracy16@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, January 29, 2021, 2:17 PM
Subject: Windows emoji picker
Thanks.

Shirley Tracy

*From: *John Doering <mailto:john.doering@ibvi.org>
*Sent: *Friday, January 29, 2021 9:07 AM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Windows emoji picker

Shirley:

What works for me.

Enter on the one you want.

Hit escape to get out of the list.

Then it should be in your Email.

Send as usual.

HTH,

*John Doering*
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org <https://ibvi.org>

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for
the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken
on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is
subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended
recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or
taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is
strictly prohibited.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2021 8:04 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Windows emoji picker

Thank you for this. I didn’t ask the question, but I paid attention to
your answer. But how do I actually select the one I want to enter? I
can’t seem to activate any particular one.

Thanks.

Shirley Tracy

*From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:09 PM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Windows emoji picker

Hi,

By default emoji panel shows recently used emojis. You can press Tab to
move between emojis and categories, then from categories list, use left
or right arrows to move between categories such as (most recently used”,
“people”, “celebrations and objects” and what not and press Enter to
activate a given category. Emoji panel will remember your category
selection the next time you open it.

Cheers,

Jsoeph

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ford
*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:06 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Windows emoji picker

With the Windows key + ., I get a short list of emojis, but there are
obviously many more.  Is there some web page or other option?  Or, is
there some way to expand the short emoji list I got from windows + .?

Tim Ford

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] *On Behalf Of
*Jim Portillo
*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:52 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Windows emoji picker

If you use the Windows-Period, it will take you into a list of them.
This is in Word.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ford
*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:28 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Windows emoji picker

Hello All,

How do I find the Windows list of emoji symbols, and use JAWS to insert
that into a text box?

Tim Ford


.


moderated Re: Windows emoji picker

Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: John Doering
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

Shirley:

What works for me.

Enter on the one you want.

Hit escape to get out of the list.

Then it should be in your Email.

Send as usual.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

Thank you for this. I didn’t ask the question, but I paid attention to your answer. But how do I actually select the one I want to enter? I can’t seem to activate any particular one.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

Hi,

By default emoji panel shows recently used emojis. You can press Tab to move between emojis and categories, then from categories list, use left or right arrows to move between categories such as (most recently used”, “people”, “celebrations and objects” and what not and press Enter to activate a given category. Emoji panel will remember your category selection the next time you open it.

Cheers,

Jsoeph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

With the Windows key + ., I get a short list of emojis, but there are obviously many more.  Is there some web page or other option?  Or, is there some way to expand the short emoji list I got from windows + .?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

If you use the Windows-Period, it will take you into a list of them. This is in Word.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows emoji picker

 

Hello All,

 

How do I find the Windows list of emoji symbols, and use JAWS to insert that into a text box?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

 

 


moderated Jaws scripts for QuickBooks

Don Risavy, Jr.
 

Does anyone know of if there are any scripts out there that are available for jaws and QuickBooks?

Thanks.

Don

 

 

 


moderated Re: Help With Facebook

Madison Martin
 

Hi Rick,

If you click on the person’s name there should be a button that says add friend.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: January 26, 2021 12:36 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Help With Facebook

 

Dear Listers:

 

Facebook has certainly changed over the years.  When I find someone I want to add as a friend, there is no way to do it.  There used to be a button where you could add someone as a friend, but now that button doesn’t appear to be there anymore.  Can one of you out there help me?  I have found someone I want to add as a friend, but I don’t know how to do it.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Facebook question

Madison Martin
 

Yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: January 29, 2021 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Facebook question

Did you confirm the new email address? It has been several years since I have done this, but I believe there is a button to send a confirmation email to you. Once you have a new confirmed email you should be able to delete the old one.
On Jan 29, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Madison Martin <madisonmartin463@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I was able to add this email address to my profile on Facebook, but
notifications are still going to my old email. How do I change it so
that they get sent to this address? I saw that there's a link to
remove this address from my profile, but there didn't seem to be one
to remove my old email address. I'm using mbasic.facebook.com, the
latest Edge, the latest Jaws 2021, and Windows 10 version 2004. Thanks
Madison







moderated Re: Facebook question

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Did you confirm the new email address? It has been several years since I have done this, but I believe there is a button to send a confirmation email to you. Once you have a new confirmed email you should be able to delete the old one.

On Jan 29, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Madison Martin <madisonmartin463@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I was able to add this email address to my profile on Facebook, but
notifications are still going to my old email. How do I change it so that they
get sent to this address? I saw that there's a link to remove this address from
my profile, but there didn't seem to be one to remove my old email address. I'm
using mbasic.facebook.com, the latest Edge, the latest Jaws 2021, and Windows 10
version 2004. Thanks Madison







moderated Facebook question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I was able to add this email address to my profile on Facebook, but
notifications are still going to my old email. How do I change it so that they
get sent to this address? I saw that there's a link to remove this address from
my profile, but there didn't seem to be one to remove my old email address. I'm
using mbasic.facebook.com, the latest Edge, the latest Jaws 2021, and Windows 10
version 2004. Thanks Madison


moderated Facebook question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I was able to add this email address to my profile on Facebook, but
notifications are still going to my old email. How do I change it so that they
get sent to this address? I saw that there's a link to remove this address from
my profile, but there didn't seem to be one to remove my old email address. I'm
using mbasic.facebook.com, the latest Edge, the latest Jaws 2021, and Windows 10
version 2004. Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Office Repair, was RE: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

Richard Turner
 

Well, there is a much easier way to get to the Office 365 repair.

Hit the windows key.

Type Control panel and hit enter

In the search box, type programs and arrow down once to Programs and Features link and hit enter.

Type M until you get to Microsoft 365 and press your applications key or shift+f10 and select Change.

Then you are at the screen where you can select quick or online repair and hit the repair button.

Much easier than arrowing down through dozens of programs in the other method.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office Repair, was RE: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

Try this for doing an Office repair.

Close all your applications.

Go to the desktop.

Tab until you hear Start button and Right click on the Start button then select on Apps and Features .

Then, tab until you hear something like: 183 apps found Listbox.  The number will differ from system to system.

Arrow down until you hear:

Microsoft 365 -

Hit your spacebar so you hear selected‑ expanded‑

Microsoft 365  and tab to the Modify Button and press your spacebar.

Then tab through the options and select the one you want before hitting the repair button.

Cancel Button‑
‪Minimize Button‑

Quick repair
‪Online Repair

‪Repair Button‑

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 6:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

Good morning all, 

 

I too, would also appreciate any and all steps that relate to performing a repair of Microsoft’s office 365.  I think that it would be most helpful, if any and all products of Microsoft,  could develop some sort of  utility that would perform a scan and clean up utility  that would scan computers for any errors before the user installs the application, or program. I would also recommend that a similar cleanup utility for Jaws, so that we users wouldn’t have to go through the process of performing a jaws repair.  Just my suggestion for what its worth.       

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 6:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

How do you do an office repair, just in case I need to do one/have help with it. I’m not doing anything untill I have a person who’s knolwedgeable about this stuff/can help with it.

 

On Jan 28, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



Hi Mark,

I would suggest running a Jaws Repair and then if the problem persists, run a repair on Office 365. I would do an online repair of Office as it’s more thorough than a quick repair. It wil take longer, but no more than 30 minutes. Good luck.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cussons, M. (Mark)
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:15 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

HI List,

Greetings from SA.  Has any one experienced the following issues with JAWS 2021 and office 365, mainly using outlook.

When trying to compose a message, or arrow through my inbox, or use the address book, Jaws tends to freeze for no reason, and I have to wait a minute or so, or alt tab around for it to respond again.  This is running on my work laptop, with office 365, and the latest build of windows 10.

Also, some times when opening an email, it will only read table coordinates, and not the contents of the email.  Any advice will be highly appreciated.  So I’ve reverted back to JAWS 2020 for the meantime.

And JAWS appears to be very slow at times, not sure if its because of all the extra background and security policies running as well.

 

Warm Regards

Mark  

 

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moderated Re: JAWS getting sluggish/cutting out?

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Not too much you can do except be sure you have laptop on good hard surface so that air vents have clearance.  Most times this is not the issue but I mention in case.  If the cooling fan is not running excessively you should be fine.

Like others this may indeed be a JAWS issue.  Openbook, a freedom product, also does slow downs.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS getting sluggish/cutting out?

 

Hi Dan,

 

I do worry about whether it is cooling enough, but I don’t know what to do about that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: January 28, 2021 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS getting sluggish/cutting out?

 

Hi,

  Wondering if this may be an issue with your laptop that is affecting JAWS performance?

Some areas to consider:

  How much memory do you have and does your ongoing work consume much of the memory?

Not often but at times the computer will not clear a program from memory even after it, the program, is closed.  Your re start of the computer fixes this issue.

Is your laptop being cooled adequately??

Laptops, especially newer, will slow the cpu if temperatures rise. (Thermo throttling )

Thus the performance of JAWS and other programs may be compromised.

  Your issue may indeed be JAWS related however just a couple other ideas.

 

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS getting sluggish/cutting out?

 

Hi All,

 

I am not exactly sure how to describe this, but I will give it a go. I am running Windows 10 and JAWS 2021 – the issue isn’t specific to any program. It seems that after I have been working for a while on my laptop – for the morning – JAWS starts to get a bit sluggish by times. It is slow to respond when I press a key, and it is kind of intermittent. I also notice, at the same time that the sound is less sharp – I’m really not sure if that is at all helpful.

 

If I shut down and restart it seems to go away until a few hours later.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated Office Repair, was RE: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

Richard Turner
 

Try this for doing an Office repair.

Close all your applications.

Go to the desktop.

Tab until you hear Start button and Right click on the Start button then select on Apps and Features .

Then, tab until you hear something like: 183 apps found Listbox.  The number will differ from system to system.

Arrow down until you hear:

Microsoft 365 -

Hit your spacebar so you hear selected‑ expanded‑

Microsoft 365  and tab to the Modify Button and press your spacebar.

Then tab through the options and select the one you want before hitting the repair button.

Cancel Button‑
‪Minimize Button‑

Quick repair
‪Online Repair

‪Repair Button‑

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 6:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

Good morning all, 

 

I too, would also appreciate any and all steps that relate to performing a repair of Microsoft’s office 365.  I think that it would be most helpful, if any and all products of Microsoft,  could develop some sort of  utility that would perform a scan and clean up utility  that would scan computers for any errors before the user installs the application, or program. I would also recommend that a similar cleanup utility for Jaws, so that we users wouldn’t have to go through the process of performing a jaws repair.  Just my suggestion for what its worth.       

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 6:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

How do you do an office repair, just in case I need to do one/have help with it. I’m not doing anything untill I have a person who’s knolwedgeable about this stuff/can help with it.

 

On Jan 28, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



Hi Mark,

I would suggest running a Jaws Repair and then if the problem persists, run a repair on Office 365. I would do an online repair of Office as it’s more thorough than a quick repair. It wil take longer, but no more than 30 minutes. Good luck.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cussons, M. (Mark)
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:15 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

HI List,

Greetings from SA.  Has any one experienced the following issues with JAWS 2021 and office 365, mainly using outlook.

When trying to compose a message, or arrow through my inbox, or use the address book, Jaws tends to freeze for no reason, and I have to wait a minute or so, or alt tab around for it to respond again.  This is running on my work laptop, with office 365, and the latest build of windows 10.

Also, some times when opening an email, it will only read table coordinates, and not the contents of the email.  Any advice will be highly appreciated.  So I’ve reverted back to JAWS 2020 for the meantime.

And JAWS appears to be very slow at times, not sure if its because of all the extra background and security policies running as well.

 

Warm Regards

Mark  

 

********************
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moderated Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

Albert Cutolo
 

Good morning all, 

 

I too, would also appreciate any and all steps that relate to performing a repair of Microsoft’s office 365.  I think that it would be most helpful, if any and all products of Microsoft,  could develop some sort of  utility that would perform a scan and clean up utility  that would scan computers for any errors before the user installs the application, or program. I would also recommend that a similar cleanup utility for Jaws, so that we users wouldn’t have to go through the process of performing a jaws repair.  Just my suggestion for what its worth.       

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 6:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

How do you do an office repair, just in case I need to do one/have help with it. I’m not doing anything untill I have a person who’s knolwedgeable about this stuff/can help with it.



On Jan 28, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



Hi Mark,

I would suggest running a Jaws Repair and then if the problem persists, run a repair on Office 365. I would do an online repair of Office as it’s more thorough than a quick repair. It wil take longer, but no more than 30 minutes. Good luck.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cussons, M. (Mark)
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:15 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

HI List,

Greetings from SA.  Has any one experienced the following issues with JAWS 2021 and office 365, mainly using outlook.

When trying to compose a message, or arrow through my inbox, or use the address book, Jaws tends to freeze for no reason, and I have to wait a minute or so, or alt tab around for it to respond again.  This is running on my work laptop, with office 365, and the latest build of windows 10.

Also, some times when opening an email, it will only read table coordinates, and not the contents of the email.  Any advice will be highly appreciated.  So I’ve reverted back to JAWS 2020 for the meantime.

And JAWS appears to be very slow at times, not sure if its because of all the extra background and security policies running as well.

 

Warm Regards

Mark  

 

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moderated Re: Windows emoji picker

John Doering
 

Shirley:

What works for me.

Enter on the one you want.

Hit escape to get out of the list.

Then it should be in your Email.

Send as usual.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

Thank you for this. I didn’t ask the question, but I paid attention to your answer. But how do I actually select the one I want to enter? I can’t seem to activate any particular one.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

Hi,

By default emoji panel shows recently used emojis. You can press Tab to move between emojis and categories, then from categories list, use left or right arrows to move between categories such as (most recently used”, “people”, “celebrations and objects” and what not and press Enter to activate a given category. Emoji panel will remember your category selection the next time you open it.

Cheers,

Jsoeph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

With the Windows key + ., I get a short list of emojis, but there are obviously many more.  Is there some web page or other option?  Or, is there some way to expand the short emoji list I got from windows + .?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

If you use the Windows-Period, it will take you into a list of them. This is in Word.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows emoji picker

 

Hello All,

 

How do I find the Windows list of emoji symbols, and use JAWS to insert that into a text box?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

 


moderated Re: Windows emoji picker

Shirley Tracy
 

Thank you for this. I didn’t ask the question, but I paid attention to your answer. But how do I actually select the one I want to enter? I can’t seem to activate any particular one.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

Hi,

By default emoji panel shows recently used emojis. You can press Tab to move between emojis and categories, then from categories list, use left or right arrows to move between categories such as (most recently used”, “people”, “celebrations and objects” and what not and press Enter to activate a given category. Emoji panel will remember your category selection the next time you open it.

Cheers,

Jsoeph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

With the Windows key + ., I get a short list of emojis, but there are obviously many more.  Is there some web page or other option?  Or, is there some way to expand the short emoji list I got from windows + .?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows emoji picker

 

If you use the Windows-Period, it will take you into a list of them. This is in Word.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows emoji picker

 

Hello All,

 

How do I find the Windows list of emoji symbols, and use JAWS to insert that into a text box?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

 


moderated Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

How do you do an office repair, just in case I need to do one/have help with it. I’m not doing anything untill I have a person who’s knolwedgeable about this stuff/can help with it.


On Jan 28, 2021, at 4:40 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegler01@...> wrote:



Hi Mark,

I would suggest running a Jaws Repair and then if the problem persists, run a repair on Office 365. I would do an online repair of Office as it’s more thorough than a quick repair. It wil take longer, but no more than 30 minutes. Good luck.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cussons, M. (Mark)
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:15 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

HI List,

Greetings from SA.  Has any one experienced the following issues with JAWS 2021 and office 365, mainly using outlook.

When trying to compose a message, or arrow through my inbox, or use the address book, Jaws tends to freeze for no reason, and I have to wait a minute or so, or alt tab around for it to respond again.  This is running on my work laptop, with office 365, and the latest build of windows 10.

Also, some times when opening an email, it will only read table coordinates, and not the contents of the email.  Any advice will be highly appreciated.  So I’ve reverted back to JAWS 2020 for the meantime.

And JAWS appears to be very slow at times, not sure if its because of all the extra background and security policies running as well.

 

Warm Regards

Mark  

 

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moderated Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

Adrian Spratt
 

I gave you directions in that same email on how to turn off tables in Outlook.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cussons, M. (Mark)
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

HI Adrian,

Thanks a mil.  Yes, this sluggish behaviour is very annoying.  How do I turn off layer tables?

Thanks for your help, for regrettably I cannot run any repairs on office or JAWS, as I don’t have admin rights on my machine.  Only the JAWS install file is whitelisted for me to install when updates arrive.

Regards

Mark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER - Please be careful when opening links and attachments. Nedbank - IT Information Security Department (ISD)

Hi Mark,

 

I’m having somewhat similar problems with JAWS 2021, and I also end up reverting to 2020.

 

Regarding messages with tables, I suggest opening up a message, any message, and pressing JAWS key+v to open JAWS quick settings. Type “table” into the search field, and then arrow down through the options. Actually, I’ve just checked my notes of previous posts that have worked for me, and I’ll copy them here:

 

Bill white. Try opening Outlook. Press JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type table detection

Uncheck this option, TAB to OK, and press ENTER.

See if this allows your email to be read correctly.

Another answer. If the detect tables does not work, another possibility is that layout tables are causing you grief so make sure they are turned off.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cussons, M. (Mark)
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:15 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

HI List,

Greetings from SA.  Has any one experienced the following issues with JAWS 2021 and office 365, mainly using outlook.

When trying to compose a message, or arrow through my inbox, or use the address book, Jaws tends to freeze for no reason, and I have to wait a minute or so, or alt tab around for it to respond again.  This is running on my work laptop, with office 365, and the latest build of windows 10.

Also, some times when opening an email, it will only read table coordinates, and not the contents of the email.  Any advice will be highly appreciated.  So I’ve reverted back to JAWS 2020 for the meantime.

And JAWS appears to be very slow at times, not sure if its because of all the extra background and security policies running as well.

 

Warm Regards

Mark  

 

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moderated Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

Cussons, M. (Mark)
 

HI Adrian,

Thanks a mil.  Yes, this sluggish behaviour is very annoying.  How do I turn off layer tables?

Thanks for your help, for regrettably I cannot run any repairs on office or JAWS, as I don’t have admin rights on my machine.  Only the JAWS install file is whitelisted for me to install when updates arrive.

Regards

Mark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER - Please be careful when opening links and attachments. Nedbank - IT Information Security Department (ISD)

Hi Mark,

 

I’m having somewhat similar problems with JAWS 2021, and I also end up reverting to 2020.

 

Regarding messages with tables, I suggest opening up a message, any message, and pressing JAWS key+v to open JAWS quick settings. Type “table” into the search field, and then arrow down through the options. Actually, I’ve just checked my notes of previous posts that have worked for me, and I’ll copy them here:

 

Bill white. Try opening Outlook. Press JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type table detection

Uncheck this option, TAB to OK, and press ENTER.

See if this allows your email to be read correctly.

Another answer. If the detect tables does not work, another possibility is that layout tables are causing you grief so make sure they are turned off.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cussons, M. (Mark)
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:15 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re latest JAWS 2021 and office 365 queries

 

HI List,

Greetings from SA.  Has any one experienced the following issues with JAWS 2021 and office 365, mainly using outlook.

When trying to compose a message, or arrow through my inbox, or use the address book, Jaws tends to freeze for no reason, and I have to wait a minute or so, or alt tab around for it to respond again.  This is running on my work laptop, with office 365, and the latest build of windows 10.

Also, some times when opening an email, it will only read table coordinates, and not the contents of the email.  Any advice will be highly appreciated.  So I’ve reverted back to JAWS 2020 for the meantime.

And JAWS appears to be very slow at times, not sure if its because of all the extra background and security policies running as well.

 

Warm Regards

Mark  

 

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moderated Changing the subject line and contacting the modrator.

David Diamond
 

This in no way is a reflection on the moderation of this group.  However, the comment was made if you have any complaints to contact the moderator.  In theory that should work and often does.  However, in the example I gave, the moderator would deliberately ignore messages she did not like and basically have a hissy fit if you did not agree with her. Changing the subject line?  Definitely there are times  the subject line does not jive with the body of the message.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: January 28, 2021 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member

 

yeah when I had my tech list I tried to keep people on topic. on my general chat list however, obviously it's general chat but if it's going to be a long thread, I would ask you to change the subject line as the subject changes.

want to talk about all sorts of topics? join my list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-request@... with subscribe in the subject field.



On Jan 28, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:



Yeah, I am glad I am not on his list...

On 1/28/2021 5:00 PM, David Diamond wrote:

Someone had a good dose of their cranky pills this morning. Smile.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: January 28, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member

 

 

So now this has become a list for the discussion of blindness rehab and O&M training, neither of which has any connection whatsoever to JAWS. For those of you who insist on continuing this off-topic thread, I suggest joining the Blind-Talk list, which is a more general forum where just about anything is permissible for discussion.  To join, send a blank message to:

 

lind-talk+subscribe@groups.io

 

Gerald

 

 

On 1/28/2021 12:17 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

That sounds more like a complaint.
Perhaps she could sit in in a very dark room for five or ten minutes before
going home.
But if folks don't like it, they will find a way to make it have negative
consequences.
And if she really believed in its benefit, perhaps she would have thought of
that.
 
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 
 
A guide dog trainer told me when she wore the blind fold for one day at the
end of the day she had such a headache when she had to drive home.  After
seeing nothing, all of a sudden she was flooded with visual information, it
was over whelming to her.
 
 -----Original Message----
 From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura
 Shumate
 Sent: January 27, 2021 7:36 PM
 To: main@jfw.groups.io
 Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 
 I don't see a problem I think teaching the sighted about Access Technology
is a
 cool thing.
 I even had my dad who is sighted use Talk Back on his phone but he said
after
 a day he wanted no more to do with it.
 Laura Shumate
 snowflake122188@...
 Business Phone: 254-300-7667
 Emergency Phone: 717-510-0684
 
 
 
 On 1/27/21, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:
 > I would make a different point about wearing blindfolds.
 > In any situation, but especially the Blind service industry, the
 > blindfolds typically are not worn for empathy, they actually are or
 > should be worn so the wearer can learn non-visual skills, independent of
 sight.
 > If a sighted person is going to be teaching Blindness skills, then
 > that person needs to have confidence in the skills being taught.
 > Also, as far as being on a Jaws or any other list oriented to those
 > who use the associated products, it could be anyone, like the guy or
 > gal down the street who does not even use the product.  As far as
 > rules go, although one could discriminate against the sighted, there
would
 be no way to police it.
 > And really, who cares who joins any list, as long as they aren't a
 > problem lister.
 > Glenn
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: Randy Barnett
 > To: main@jfw.groups.io
 > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 8:39 PM
 > Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 >
 >
 > Yes, AT instructors have to spend a week or two blindfolded so they
 > can empathize and understand what it is really like. without doing
 > this they aren't able to really understand what it is like for us.
 >
 >
 > On 1/27/2021 5:44 PM, David Diamond wrote:
 >
 >
 >   I agree with Brian.  At one of the guide dog schools, one of the
 > days all students have to wear a blind fold or night shade from after
 > Breakfast to supper.  This is generally a total of 8 hours.  Point?
 > So they rely on their guide dogs instead of their sight.  Tie in?  How
 > will the sighted know about the problems the VI sector have if they
 > are not aware of them.  It drove me nuts when someone on the Microsoft
 > disability help desk told me to click on the yellow X.  Darling, if I
 > could see it I would not be calling your department.
 >
 >
 >
 >   From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
 >   Sent: January 27, 2021 5:04 PM
 >   To: main@jfw.groups.io
 >   Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 >
 >
 >
 >   Well, unless there's some rule banning the sighted (in which case I
 > should have been gone, long ago), I can't see this as a problem.
 >
 >   I think it's an excellent idea for sighted individuals working in
 > the VI sphere to join and learn from the groups related to same.
 >   --
 >
 >   Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
 >
 >   One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of
 > the shore for a very long time.
 >
 >              ~ André Gide
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 
 
 --
 Laura Shumate
 snowflake122188@...
 Business Phone: 254-300-7667
 Emergency Phone: 717-510-0684
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Crosspost: Question about new member

Maria Reyes
 

yeah when I had my tech list I tried to keep people on topic. on my general chat list however, obviously it's general chat but if it's going to be a long thread, I would ask you to change the subject line as the subject changes.

want to talk about all sorts of topics? join my list by sending an email to blind-chatroom-request@... with subscribe in the subject field.


On Jan 28, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:



Yeah, I am glad I am not on his list...

On 1/28/2021 5:00 PM, David Diamond wrote:

Someone had a good dose of their cranky pills this morning. Smile.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: January 28, 2021 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member

 

 

So now this has become a list for the discussion of blindness rehab and O&M training, neither of which has any connection whatsoever to JAWS. For those of you who insist on continuing this off-topic thread, I suggest joining the Blind-Talk list, which is a more general forum where just about anything is permissible for discussion.  To join, send a blank message to:

 

lind-talk+subscribe@groups.io

 

Gerald

 

 

On 1/28/2021 12:17 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

That sounds more like a complaint.
Perhaps she could sit in in a very dark room for five or ten minutes before
going home.
But if folks don't like it, they will find a way to make it have negative
consequences.
And if she really believed in its benefit, perhaps she would have thought of
that.
 
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Diamond" <Daviddiamond2019@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 
 
A guide dog trainer told me when she wore the blind fold for one day at the
end of the day she had such a headache when she had to drive home.  After
seeing nothing, all of a sudden she was flooded with visual information, it
was over whelming to her.
 
 -----Original Message----
 From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura
 Shumate
 Sent: January 27, 2021 7:36 PM
 To: main@jfw.groups.io
 Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 
 I don't see a problem I think teaching the sighted about Access Technology
is a
 cool thing.
 I even had my dad who is sighted use Talk Back on his phone but he said
after
 a day he wanted no more to do with it.
 Laura Shumate
 snowflake122188@...
 Business Phone: 254-300-7667
 Emergency Phone: 717-510-0684
 
 
 
 On 1/27/21, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:
 > I would make a different point about wearing blindfolds.
 > In any situation, but especially the Blind service industry, the
 > blindfolds typically are not worn for empathy, they actually are or
 > should be worn so the wearer can learn non-visual skills, independent of
 sight.
 > If a sighted person is going to be teaching Blindness skills, then
 > that person needs to have confidence in the skills being taught.
 > Also, as far as being on a Jaws or any other list oriented to those
 > who use the associated products, it could be anyone, like the guy or
 > gal down the street who does not even use the product.  As far as
 > rules go, although one could discriminate against the sighted, there
would
 be no way to police it.
 > And really, who cares who joins any list, as long as they aren't a
 > problem lister.
 > Glenn
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: Randy Barnett
 > To: main@jfw.groups.io
 > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 8:39 PM
 > Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 >
 >
 > Yes, AT instructors have to spend a week or two blindfolded so they
 > can empathize and understand what it is really like. without doing
 > this they aren't able to really understand what it is like for us.
 >
 >
 > On 1/27/2021 5:44 PM, David Diamond wrote:
 >
 >
 >   I agree with Brian.  At one of the guide dog schools, one of the
 > days all students have to wear a blind fold or night shade from after
 > Breakfast to supper.  This is generally a total of 8 hours.  Point?
 > So they rely on their guide dogs instead of their sight.  Tie in?  How
 > will the sighted know about the problems the VI sector have if they
 > are not aware of them.  It drove me nuts when someone on the Microsoft
 > disability help desk told me to click on the yellow X.  Darling, if I
 > could see it I would not be calling your department.
 >
 >
 >
 >   From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
 >   Sent: January 27, 2021 5:04 PM
 >   To: main@jfw.groups.io
 >   Subject: Re: Crosspost: Question about new member
 >
 >
 >
 >   Well, unless there's some rule banning the sighted (in which case I
 > should have been gone, long ago), I can't see this as a problem.
 >
 >   I think it's an excellent idea for sighted individuals working in
 > the VI sphere to join and learn from the groups related to same.
 >   --
 >
 >   Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
 >
 >   One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of
 > the shore for a very long time.
 >
 >              ~ André Gide
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 
 
 --
 Laura Shumate
 snowflake122188@...
 Business Phone: 254-300-7667
 Emergency Phone: 717-510-0684
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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