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moderated laptop question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I've had this laptop since March, and I notice that the fan seems to run a lot,
which I assume means that the laptop gets overheated, any idea why this might be
happening? I'm running Windows 10 2004, the latest Jaws 2021, and office 365. My
laptop is a Lenovo think book 13s 20r9005vus

Look forward to any thoughts or help anyone can provide!!!
Madison


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Randy Meyer
 

Jim:

 

I am having a similar issue with JAWS 2021 on my ElBraille.  JAWS 2021 successfully installed on my desktop computer, but not on my ElBraille.

 

FS is working on my issue, and I will let you know when they solve it.

 

I am getting windows c+ run command and failing at 50 percent.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: Speech with Zoom

Scott Pearl
 

Thank you Joe for this keystroke. I’m going to try it. And I apologize for not looking this up sooner, but I just found out in Zoom, under Settings and Accessibility, we can tab to the Alerts and there are a bunch of check boxes we can uncheck to customize which alerts we hear.

Thank you for that keystroke!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Speech with Zoom

 

Depending upon your version of Jaws, press Ctrl + Alt + S to silence notifications in Zoom.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Pearl
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 3:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Speech with Zoom

 

When I’m using JAWS with Zoom so often throughout the meeting it tells me that someone has left the meeting, someone’s bandwidth is low or someone’s microphone is muted, etc. Having these messages go through a Zoom meeting several dozen or hundred times is just unworkable. Does anyone know if there is anywhere in the settings center I’m missing how to shut these messages off? I don’t want to turn JAWS off to the “Speech on Demand” because I’m working with a Word document while in the meeting and need JAWS to talk to me, just without these nonstop notifications.

Thank you!

 

 


moderated Re: Using Google docs

Ann Byrne
 

try insert-z to turn off the virtual cursor.

At 12:10 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:

Hello,

I use the most recent version of Windows10 and Jaws2021. I have a url that takes me specifically to a google doc. Right now my default browser is MS edge. I couldn't move around at all. I used the jaws cursor and it showed a control alt z to learn about other key strokes. I pressed those keys and nothing happened. There was another set of key strokes of control / and I'm thinking there was another key because nothing happened when I pressed those keys. I then used the url in Google Chrome and the same thing happened. Is there a way to get Google docs to work?

Thanks,

Kevin





moderated Re: Speech with Zoom

Joe
 

Depending upon your version of Jaws, press Ctrl + Alt + S to silence notifications in Zoom.

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Pearl
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 3:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Speech with Zoom

 

When I’m using JAWS with Zoom so often throughout the meeting it tells me that someone has left the meeting, someone’s bandwidth is low or someone’s microphone is muted, etc. Having these messages go through a Zoom meeting several dozen or hundred times is just unworkable. Does anyone know if there is anywhere in the settings center I’m missing how to shut these messages off? I don’t want to turn JAWS off to the “Speech on Demand” because I’m working with a Word document while in the meeting and need JAWS to talk to me, just without these nonstop notifications.

Thank you!

 

 


moderated Speech with Zoom

Scott Pearl
 

When I’m using JAWS with Zoom so often throughout the meeting it tells me that someone has left the meeting, someone’s bandwidth is low or someone’s microphone is muted, etc. Having these messages go through a Zoom meeting several dozen or hundred times is just unworkable. Does anyone know if there is anywhere in the settings center I’m missing how to shut these messages off? I don’t want to turn JAWS off to the “Speech on Demand” because I’m working with a Word document while in the meeting and need JAWS to talk to me, just without these nonstop notifications.

Thank you!

 

 


moderated Re: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Tony
 

Sending this message to the full list is a waste of my time.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 9:32 AM
To: Ken Chernack via groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Hello Ken,

I don't care about free speech or lack of thereof, but I want to learn about JFW here.

Monday, January 11, 2021, 4:15:03 PM, you wrote:

Moderators,
I had 56 unread emails this morning.
The majority of them were inappropriate for this discussion list.
Yes, James I used my delete button for 10 minutes... what a waste of my time.
Discussion lists are like a library to me.
You Go to the travel topic of books to get travel info for a trip.
You go to the political science topic for those subjects.
I am here to learn about JFW.
That's the way this discussion list has been for a long, long time.
Folks, I am all in favor of 'legal free speech.
Do us all a favor and take it to another discussion list, please.
Thanks.
Ken
---Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James
English
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?
Why does it matter honestly? You have a delete key on your computer or a delete button on your email service. Perhaps make use?
- James
On 1/11/21, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Exactly. This list has drifted way off topic into arant about free
speech that is more appropriate for a general chit-chat forum such as
the Blind Talk or Blind Democracy lists. Where is the list moderator?


Gerald



On 1/11/2021 8:25 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
She was referring to all of the posts that were related to Parlor
and the track it had taken regarding free speech and censorship.
Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@icloud.com


“I would rather walk with a friend in the dark; than alone in the light.”
| Helen Keller




On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:

They maybe having trouble using JFW as there is a subject line but
no body to the message?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Respectfully submitted. To what are you referring too? There is
no message below yours to indicate what you are objecting too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat
Byrne
Sent: January 10, 2021 5:27 PM
Subject: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Respectfully submitted.
pat Byrne

































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Best regards,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Jim Rawls
 

I’m calling FS. I tried your idea and unfortunately it didn’t work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Installing jaws without jaws running sometimes avoids conflicts, so trying it doesn’t hurt anything and it might help.

If not, calling support is the next logical step.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Installing jaws without jaws running sometimes avoids conflicts, so trying it doesn’t hurt anything and it might help.

If not, calling support is the next logical step.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Michael Mote
 

You may consider running the off-line installer that you can download from the downloads area as well.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Jim Rawls
 

I am not trying to install them together, but one at a time in sequence, 2019 first and 2020 second. .groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Adrian Spratt
 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: Using Google docs

Chris Hill
 

FS has a guide up on it.  I'd read that and follow the instructions.



On 1/11/2021 12:10, kevin meyers wrote:

Hello,

I use the most recent version of Windows10 and Jaws2021. I have a url that takes me specifically to a google doc. Right now my default browser is MS edge. I couldn’t move around at all. I used the jaws cursor and it showed a control alt z to learn about other key strokes. I pressed those keys and nothing happened. There was another set of key strokes of control / and I’m thinking there was another key because nothing happened when I pressed those keys. I then used the url in Google Chrome and the same thing happened. Is there a way to get Google docs to work?

Thanks,

Kevin

 

 


moderated Re: key command to close task pane in Word

Lisa
 

Hello,

Try control + space bar and then arrow to close.

 

Lisa Heberger

Alternative Media Center

Braille specialist

Phone: (804) 916-8862

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:04 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: key command to close task pane in Word

 

I’ve accidentally gotten a Thesaurus task pane open in Word.  My notes said to use Control F4 to close it, but that doesn’t seem to work.  Can someone remind me how to do this? 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

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moderated Re: key command to close task pane in Word

Van Lant, Robin
 

Just figured it out.  Found another note that says to use Control spacebar, then down arrow to the close option  That worked. 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 11:04 AM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: key command to close task pane in Word

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

I’ve accidentally gotten a Thesaurus task pane open in Word.  My notes said to use Control F4 to close it, but that doesn’t seem to work.  Can someone remind me how to do this? 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Try running the install with Narrator running instead of Jaws.

If that doesn’t work, then I’d call FS or Microsoft Accessibility support.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: Unwanted Topics, was Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

James English
 

I know that I need to do something because I'm too bored when I
respond to 'test' messages with 'I didn't get that, try resending?'

Then I get a small spark of 'oh it's not that bad' when the person in
question does re-send, and I realise I'm not as bad as that guy.

On 1/11/21, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:
People cannot help themselves.
They read the messages instead of just deleting them.
It's like a bad vehicle wreck, it's gruesome, but people have to look.
But personally, when it comes to eMails, if I don't like the topic, I delete
them.
But then we get folks straying from the topic and we might miss useful
information.
But some folks are so bored, they have to read everything.
Just like how I get a kick out of seeing a message with the subject
test please ignore
and folks still open the message and reply.
LOL

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?


On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:44 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

Where is the list moderator?
-
I presume where he typically is. To say that this group is very lightly
moderated is an understatement, and that's the prerogative of the Group
Owner.

For most participants, at the bottom of every single message (or message
snippet in digests) is a Mute this Topic link, which is a feature Groups.io
offers that most others don't. I suggest people use it. Moderators should
not be called upon to take actions that end users can effect on their own.

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)


--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042


One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.

~ André Gide







moderated Using Google docs

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

I use the most recent version of Windows10 and Jaws2021. I have a url that takes me specifically to a google doc. Right now my default browser is MS edge. I couldn’t move around at all. I used the jaws cursor and it showed a control alt z to learn about other key strokes. I pressed those keys and nothing happened. There was another set of key strokes of control / and I’m thinking there was another key because nothing happened when I pressed those keys. I then used the url in Google Chrome and the same thing happened. Is there a way to get Google docs to work?

Thanks,

Kevin

 

 


moderated I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Unwanted Topics, was Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Glenn / Lenny
 


People cannot help themselves.
They read the messages instead of just deleting them.
It's like a bad vehicle wreck, it's gruesome, but people have to look.
But personally, when it comes to eMails, if I don't like the topic, I delete them.
But then we get folks straying from the topic and we might miss useful information.
But some folks are so bored, they have to read everything.
Just like how I get a kick out of seeing a message with the subject
test please ignore
and folks still open the message and reply.
LOL
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:44 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
Where is the list moderator?
-
I presume where he typically is.  To say that this group is very lightly moderated is an understatement, and that's the prerogative of the Group Owner.

For most participants, at the bottom of every single message (or message snippet in digests) is a Mute this Topic link, which is a feature Groups.io offers that most others don't.  I suggest people use it.  Moderators should not be called upon to take actions that end users can effect on their own.

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)

 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide

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