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moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Michael Mote
 

You may consider running the off-line installer that you can download from the downloads area as well.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Jim Rawls
 

I am not trying to install them together, but one at a time in sequence, 2019 first and 2020 second. .groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Adrian Spratt
 

Are you trying to install both at once? If not, in which sequence are you attempting to install them?

I learned from Vispero tech support that if an install (or repair) fails, try running it again. Have you done that yet?

Someone suggested running narrator, but I’m not sure how that would help. Obviously, you’re getting the failed message.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: Using Google docs

Chris Hill
 

FS has a guide up on it.  I'd read that and follow the instructions.



On 1/11/2021 12:10, kevin meyers wrote:

Hello,

I use the most recent version of Windows10 and Jaws2021. I have a url that takes me specifically to a google doc. Right now my default browser is MS edge. I couldn’t move around at all. I used the jaws cursor and it showed a control alt z to learn about other key strokes. I pressed those keys and nothing happened. There was another set of key strokes of control / and I’m thinking there was another key because nothing happened when I pressed those keys. I then used the url in Google Chrome and the same thing happened. Is there a way to get Google docs to work?

Thanks,

Kevin

 

 


moderated Re: key command to close task pane in Word

Lisa
 

Hello,

Try control + space bar and then arrow to close.

 

Lisa Heberger

Alternative Media Center

Braille specialist

Phone: (804) 916-8862

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:04 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: key command to close task pane in Word

 

I’ve accidentally gotten a Thesaurus task pane open in Word.  My notes said to use Control F4 to close it, but that doesn’t seem to work.  Can someone remind me how to do this? 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

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moderated Re: key command to close task pane in Word

Van Lant, Robin
 

Just figured it out.  Found another note that says to use Control spacebar, then down arrow to the close option  That worked. 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 11:04 AM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: key command to close task pane in Word

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

I’ve accidentally gotten a Thesaurus task pane open in Word.  My notes said to use Control F4 to close it, but that doesn’t seem to work.  Can someone remind me how to do this? 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

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moderated Re: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Richard Turner
 

Try running the install with Narrator running instead of Jaws.

If that doesn’t work, then I’d call FS or Microsoft Accessibility support.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Re: Unwanted Topics, was Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

James English
 

I know that I need to do something because I'm too bored when I
respond to 'test' messages with 'I didn't get that, try resending?'

Then I get a small spark of 'oh it's not that bad' when the person in
question does re-send, and I realise I'm not as bad as that guy.

On 1/11/21, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@cableone.net> wrote:
People cannot help themselves.
They read the messages instead of just deleting them.
It's like a bad vehicle wreck, it's gruesome, but people have to look.
But personally, when it comes to eMails, if I don't like the topic, I delete
them.
But then we get folks straying from the topic and we might miss useful
information.
But some folks are so bored, they have to read everything.
Just like how I get a kick out of seeing a message with the subject
test please ignore
and folks still open the message and reply.
LOL

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?


On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:44 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

Where is the list moderator?
-
I presume where he typically is. To say that this group is very lightly
moderated is an understatement, and that's the prerogative of the Group
Owner.

For most participants, at the bottom of every single message (or message
snippet in digests) is a Mute this Topic link, which is a feature Groups.io
offers that most others don't. I suggest people use it. Moderators should
not be called upon to take actions that end users can effect on their own.

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)


--

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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.

~ André Gide







moderated Using Google docs

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

I use the most recent version of Windows10 and Jaws2021. I have a url that takes me specifically to a google doc. Right now my default browser is MS edge. I couldn’t move around at all. I used the jaws cursor and it showed a control alt z to learn about other key strokes. I pressed those keys and nothing happened. There was another set of key strokes of control / and I’m thinking there was another key because nothing happened when I pressed those keys. I then used the url in Google Chrome and the same thing happened. Is there a way to get Google docs to work?

Thanks,

Kevin

 

 


moderated I can't get jaws 20219 or jaws 2020 to install.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, the install starts, but when it gets to 50%, I get a message that says, the jaws install has failed. I am authorized for both versions. Any ideas on how to fix this/>? I am running jaws 18on a w10 computer.


moderated Unwanted Topics, was Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Glenn / Lenny
 


People cannot help themselves.
They read the messages instead of just deleting them.
It's like a bad vehicle wreck, it's gruesome, but people have to look.
But personally, when it comes to eMails, if I don't like the topic, I delete them.
But then we get folks straying from the topic and we might miss useful information.
But some folks are so bored, they have to read everything.
Just like how I get a kick out of seeing a message with the subject
test please ignore
and folks still open the message and reply.
LOL
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:44 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
Where is the list moderator?
-
I presume where he typically is.  To say that this group is very lightly moderated is an understatement, and that's the prerogative of the Group Owner.

For most participants, at the bottom of every single message (or message snippet in digests) is a Mute this Topic link, which is a feature Groups.io offers that most others don't.  I suggest people use it.  Moderators should not be called upon to take actions that end users can effect on their own.

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)

 
--

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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated key command to close task pane in Word

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’ve accidentally gotten a Thesaurus task pane open in Word.  My notes said to use Control F4 to close it, but that doesn’t seem to work.  Can someone remind me how to do this? 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

Milton Ota
 

Hello,

 

That sounds great that you found the mini USB port on the left side of the PacMate display.

 

I think you are mis-reading the text that display when you connect the display to the computer.

 

It should read: pm display 40 3.70

 

That is the latest and last update that was available for the firmware of the PacMate display.

 

Now, we need to be sure of the problem why JAWS is not starting with your PacMate display.

 

First, you should make sure that no other braille display is connected to the computer, some may say this is not necessary but I found this to help by disconnecting my Focus and then getting JAWS to recognize the PacMate display.

 

Let go into the JAWS menu by pressing and holding down the JAWS key/Insert key and the letter J.

 

Now press the letter L or using the down arrow key, select Braille Display.

 

Make sure that you have focus on the PacMate display and confirm that you are using the USB port for the display.

 

You may need to go to modify setting by tabbing over and opening that choice.

 

Make sure that you set it as the default display and tab to OK. You should then be prompted to restart JAWS, and I hope you have a shortcut key for starting JAWS.

 

If you would like further help, live in the 48 continental states, I’m in Central time and will be available for a tandem session and phone call after 1:30 PM today.

 

Milton

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

I have indeed finally found a mini USB port on the left side just under the insertions guide.    JAWS is now keeping it as my default but it seems to be failing to load the braille driver.

 

The display itself shows on power-up:

pm display  40  - k70

 

USB device info from device manager.

LibUSB-1.0: FreedomScientific [PAC Mate]

Device type:  libusb (WinUSB) devices

Manufacturer:  libusb 1.0

Device status  multi line  This device is working properly.

 

I found a few mentions that the Focus USB driver would work which is what I have installed as a USB driver at the moment.

 

FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030

 

                Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 5:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Okay, have you looked on the left side of the display for a mini usb port?

 

When you plug the display to the Pacmate what version of the display is shown?

 

These are questions Freedom Scientific Support will ask so you should check these things out.

 

This is just a suggestion to figure out the problem.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

They are still clipped together.  I’ve been searching the BX manual and didn’t see any option to run the display without the PDA part.  A quick examination of the display only section doesn’t suggest it would support running completely stand-alone as I see no USB type A or mini B port.  The display is working with the PDA part which is running 6.2 of the environment but I haven’t figured out how to update it since I don’t have any way of connecting CF cards to my system to prepare one for an upgrade path.

 

I figured they would flatly deny support since it is so old.  This came from an era of proprietary  USB protocols so I am expecting to need some sort of USB driver.

 

I did manage to find it in the Device Manager in control panel.  It’s listed under Other Devices under its name but doesn’t know much about it and says there is no driver for it.

 

“Device status: The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)”

 

                Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Have you separated the display from the note taker? 

My guess is the display is too old to be supported, but you may need to call FS on Monday. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I would check to see what is going on with your USB port in the device manager in Windows 10. Let me know if you need help finding the device manager.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Someone gave me this braille display and I’ve managed to get it up and running as far as the Windows mobile usage is concerned.  But I really want to be able to do braille display of my desktop PC running Windows 10.  I have it connected via USB but the computer doesn’t seem to acknowledge it from what I can tell.  The device is running off the power from the port and I know the cable works as I use it for my old Book Port Plus.

I’ve tried to tell JAWS that a Pac Mate is there in the braille settings by adding a display but it just never selects it (keeps switching back to no display).    As I’m on Windows 10, ActiveSync install is impossible (stopped support at XP).  And google has failed me so far for any details other that the ActiveSync companion CD had some USB driver bundled with it for the device.  No sign of that driver either.

 

It just seems to be such a waste for a usable braille display that  is still serviceable as a hosted display if the PDA part is not so useful now.

 

Any pointers would be appreciated.

 

                Dan


moderated Re: Problem with Forgot my password with Gmail

 

If he has no idea of any password he ever had then you need to give up, in all likelihood.  They'll accept virtually any password ever associated with the account, or even very close guesses.

If this individual happens to be blind, visually impaired, or has another disability, you could consider using: Google Accessibility Get In Touch Page

 

Contact the Google Disability Support Team


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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:38 AM, Chris wrote:

Learn how to use them,

 

Or leave group

-
And I will say, "Amen to that!!," and have, including on groups I moderate.

Moderators follow the philosophy of the group owner(s), and on lightly moderated groups we're not playground monitors.

Grousp.io gives the end user exquisite levels of control over the traffic they receive from any group, up through topic preview, which allows you to pick and choose only those topics you wish to continue to see once you've seen the first message.

I have posted the instructions, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx), on every group on which I participate.  It is absolutely up to end users to avail themselves of the controls they can exercise and if they will not do that, or don't like how the group owner(s) and their staff administer a group, can unsubscribe or go to the no mail option and read via the Groups.io web interface. 
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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
If you really want help from the moderators, write them directly, which is part of the list guidelines.
-
Precisely:  main+owner@jfw.groups.io.

I even share the frustration with certain topics, but as I have already observed, history, long history, shows that this group is very lightly moderated and there are scads of topics that are not JAWS related in any way.  It is what it is, and if that's not acceptable, and you (any you) are not willing to use the control mechanisms available to you, and which I posted detailed instructions about using earlier, there is an unsubscribe address.


There is no one who's been reading this group for an length of time who could possibly believe it's either tightly focused on JAWS or tightly moderated.  So, when these things happen use the Mute this Topic link and the other tricks in, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)

 

  • You get the groups as they are, and how the owner manages them, not as you personally want them to be. 
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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Chris
 

At the bottom of every email from groups.io theres a mute topic link if you dont wish to receive that particular topic

 

And You can of course edit your subscription options to filter out unwanted topics you dont want to receive,

the link is also at the bottom of every mail from groups.io to edit your subscription options

 

 

Learn how to use them,

 

Or leave group

 

 

 

From: Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: 11 January 2021 15:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

 

Moderators,

I had 56 unread emails this morning.

The majority of them were inappropriate for this discussion list.

 

Yes, James I used my delete button for 10 minutes... what a waste of my time.

 

Discussion lists are like a library to me.

You  Go to the travel topic of books to get travel info for a trip.

You go to the political science topic for those subjects.

 

I am here to learn about JFW.

That's the way this discussion list has been for a long, long time.

 

Folks, I am all in favor of 'legal free speech.

Do us all a favor and take it to another discussion list, please.

 

Thanks.

 

Ken

 

---Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:50 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

 

Why does it matter honestly? You have a delete key on your computer or a delete button on your email service. Perhaps make use?

 

- James

 

On 1/11/21, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited@...> wrote:

> Exactly.  This list has drifted way off topic into  arant about free

> speech that is more appropriate for a general chit-chat forum such as

> the Blind Talk or Blind Democracy lists.  Where is the list moderator?

> Gerald

> On 1/11/2021 8:25 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:

>> She was referring to all of the posts that were related to Parlor and

>> the track it had taken regarding free speech and censorship.

>> Jim Weiss

>> 

>> jimweiss72@...

>> 

>> 

>> “I would rather walk with a friend in the dark; than alone in the light.”

>> | Helen Keller

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@...> wrote:

>>> 

>>> They maybe having trouble using JFW as there is a subject line but

>>> no body to the message?

>>> 

>>> 

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David

>>> Diamond

>>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:03 PM

>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>>> Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

>>> 

>>> Respectfully submitted.  To what are you referring too?  There is no

>>> message below yours to indicate what you are objecting too.

>>> 

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne

>>> Sent: January 10, 2021 5:27 PM

>>> Subject: And what does this have to do with JFW?

>>> 

>>> Respectfully submitted.

>>> pat Byrne

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

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moderated Re: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
 

Hello Ken,

I don't care about free speech or lack of thereof, but I want to learn about JFW here.

Monday, January 11, 2021, 4:15:03 PM, you wrote:

Moderators,
I had 56 unread emails this morning.
The majority of them were inappropriate for this discussion list.
Yes, James I used my delete button for 10 minutes... what a waste of my time.
Discussion lists are like a library to me.
You Go to the travel topic of books to get travel info for a trip.
You go to the political science topic for those subjects.
I am here to learn about JFW.
That's the way this discussion list has been for a long, long time.
Folks, I am all in favor of 'legal free speech.
Do us all a favor and take it to another discussion list, please.
Thanks.
Ken
---Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?
Why does it matter honestly? You have a delete key on your computer or a delete button on your email service. Perhaps make use?
- James
On 1/11/21, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Exactly. This list has drifted way off topic into arant about free
speech that is more appropriate for a general chit-chat forum such as
the Blind Talk or Blind Democracy lists. Where is the list moderator?


Gerald



On 1/11/2021 8:25 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
She was referring to all of the posts that were related to Parlor and
the track it had taken regarding free speech and censorship.
Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@icloud.com


“I would rather walk with a friend in the dark; than alone in the light.”
| Helen Keller




On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:

They maybe having trouble using JFW as there is a subject line but
no body to the message?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Respectfully submitted. To what are you referring too? There is no
message below yours to indicate what you are objecting too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: January 10, 2021 5:27 PM
Subject: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Respectfully submitted.
pat Byrne






























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moderated Problem with Forgot my password with Gmail

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

I am trying to help a person I am training create a new Gmail password, but when he tries to log in, and uses the forgot my password button, he is asked to put in the last password he remembered. If he doesn’t remember anything, he gets totally stuck. This is an idiotic Catch 22. And the only way you can access a real human being  with Google is to log in first. Any ideas on how to get around this?

 

Thanks,

David

 

 


moderated Re: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Richard Turner
 

As Brian pointed out, there is a mute topic option at the bottom of each message.
If you haven't created a password for your Groups.io accounts, you will need to do that, which is offered when you activate the mute topic link.
So far, I've done that with the parler and the what's this have to do with JFW messages, and now I will do that with the hey moderators ...
If you really want help from the moderators, write them directly, which is part of the list guidelines.

All of this takes away from focusing on Jaws.



Richard

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My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: hey moderators -Help Us please RE: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Moderators,
I had 56 unread emails this morning.
The majority of them were inappropriate for this discussion list.

Yes, James I used my delete button for 10 minutes... what a waste of my time.

Discussion lists are like a library to me.
You Go to the travel topic of books to get travel info for a trip.
You go to the political science topic for those subjects.

I am here to learn about JFW.
That's the way this discussion list has been for a long, long time.

Folks, I am all in favor of 'legal free speech.
Do us all a favor and take it to another discussion list, please.

Thanks.

Ken

---Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Why does it matter honestly? You have a delete key on your computer or a delete button on your email service. Perhaps make use?

- James

On 1/11/21, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Exactly. This list has drifted way off topic into arant about free
speech that is more appropriate for a general chit-chat forum such as
the Blind Talk or Blind Democracy lists. Where is the list moderator?


Gerald



On 1/11/2021 8:25 AM, Jim Weiss via groups.io wrote:
She was referring to all of the posts that were related to Parlor and
the track it had taken regarding free speech and censorship.
Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@icloud.com


"I would rather walk with a friend in the dark; than alone in the light."
| Helen Keller




On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:

They maybe having trouble using JFW as there is a subject line but
no body to the message?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Respectfully submitted. To what are you referring too? There is no
message below yours to indicate what you are objecting too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: January 10, 2021 5:27 PM
Subject: And what does this have to do with JFW?

Respectfully submitted.
pat Byrne























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