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moderated Re: version questions

Richard Turner
 

What happens when you press capslock+f4?



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I think they already checked that out, as the reason we took it in was to have the tab key replaced as a piece broke off of it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Maybe a short in the keyboard somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Sorry, but any key that reports that completely wrong information indicates there is a problem.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Caa5e5d77cfe3416035b508d8ac2d23cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448657159601129%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=KpVUmH4GyCk6HgP0RUVug5lXBPuGoJsRvak6R8Q3GVk%3D&amp;reserved=0
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and then customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C355443d3348a42255b2408d8ac29a5a8%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448642153220373%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=Qgxp7bSH4jr%2B%2BbGv%2B3PQsIRZYoaNON8S7leJL59SdBk%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
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C4wL
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yQyD
MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
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8v%2
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*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
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;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once (probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

I think they already checked that out, as the reason we took it in was to have
the tab key replaced as a piece broke off of it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Maybe a short in the keyboard somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Sorry, but any key that reports that completely wrong information indicates
there is a problem.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and then
customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C355443d3348a42255b2408d8ac29a5a8%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448642153220373%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
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*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up
a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but
they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues
that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try
calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but
their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
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yQyD
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*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it
says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
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D7k3
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*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt
tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

JM Casey
 

Maybe a short in the keyboard somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Sorry, but any key that reports that completely wrong information indicates
there is a problem.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and
then customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message
that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C355443d3348a42255b2408d8ac29a5a8%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448642153220373%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=Qgxp7bSH4jr%2B%2BbGv%2B3PQsIRZYoaNON8S7leJL59SdBk%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't
bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in,
but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have
issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or
try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized,
but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m%2BG
yQyD
MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work
(it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I
alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system
tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
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8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws
in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work
here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be
in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so
it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
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;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t
the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to
know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are
getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version
information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't
copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you
need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to
remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment
I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't
show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual
version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Richard Turner
 

Sorry, but any key that reports that completely wrong information indicates there is a problem.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and then customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C355443d3348a42255b2408d8ac29a5a8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448642153220373%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Qgxp7bSH4jr%2B%2BbGv%2B3PQsIRZYoaNON8S7leJL59SdBk%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m%2BGyQyD
MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
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D7k3
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once (probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

JM Casey
 

Hmm..would be interesting, to see if the same problem still manifests.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

No.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I think then in order to get things working the way you want, you should
reinstall JAWS, and during the initial "wizard" process, make sure you have
JAWS set to display in its own window. That way I think you'll still be
easily able to get to the menu.

Have you ever tried connecting another keyboard to your laptop?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and
then customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message
that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't
bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in,
but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have
issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or
try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized,
but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m%2BG
yQyD
MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work
(it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I
alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system
tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws
in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work
here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be
in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so
it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
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;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t
the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to
know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are
getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version
information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't
copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you
need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to
remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment
I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't
show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual
version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

No.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I think then in order to get things working the way you want, you should
reinstall JAWS, and during the initial "wizard" process, make sure you have JAWS
set to display in its own window. That way I think you'll still be easily able
to get to the menu.

Have you ever tried connecting another keyboard to your laptop?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and then
customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up
a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but
they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues
that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try
calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but
their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m%2BG
yQyD
MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it
says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
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D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt
tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

JM Casey
 

I think then in order to get things working the way you want, you should
reinstall JAWS, and during the initial "wizard" process, make sure you have
JAWS set to display in its own window. That way I think you'll still be
easily able to get to the menu.

Have you ever tried connecting another keyboard to your laptop?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and
then customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message
that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't
bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in,
but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have
issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or
try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized,
but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m%2BG
yQyD
MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work
(it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I
alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system
tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws
in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work
here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be
in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so
it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t
the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to
know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are
getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version
information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't
copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you
need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to
remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment
I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't
show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual
version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

It doesn't say that when I press the capslock key, just when I accidentally
press the actual insert key (it's right beside the delete key).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and then
customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message that
alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up
a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but
they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues
that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try
calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but
their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m%2BGyQyD
MGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it
says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt
tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

No I haven't.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up
a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but
they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues
that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try
calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but
their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it
says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt
tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Richard Turner
 

A jaws repair sounds like the logical next step.
Or, uninstalling Jaws and reinstalling it might get it back to normal and then customize as needed.

But if the capslock key plus j doesn't work at all, but gives the message that alt+windows+q is being pressed, there is something else going on completely.

Good luck

Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C792fa50e78a446fd790c08d8ac28637a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448636748001604%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m%2BGyQyDMGrjhlpV1tAPATWFdNlwkDKjV4Udcw1SgWMM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once (probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Are there any JAWS scripts or tips and tricks to using the Amazon Music desktop app?

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Yeah Richard its needed. I usually listen to my music on my Android phone, but I want to be able to hear my music on my PC as well.

On 12/29/2020 1:20 PM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
I just ended my 30 day trial period after not ever being able to get any acceptable level of accessibility out of it. As far as accessibility goes, it sucks. I even discussed it with Amazon Accessibility; which was fruitless as expected. I also tried the Amazon web version of the app, but it is likewise inaccessible. What's more, with the web app you cannot play "Amazon Music HD." On my "Fire TV" using "Voice View," there is some slight degree of accessibility but not enough to make it worth the subscription cost. This is all very surprising and disappointing to me given the apparent value of music to the blind.

I wish we could conjure-up a JAWS scripting effort for the desktop app!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Are their any JAWS scripts or tips and tricks to using the Amazon Music desktop app?

Well the subject says it all. The player is an inaccessible frowning pile of poo. A lot of unlabeled buttons. I miss playing music off my PC since I left Apple Music. Thanks.










moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

It just doesn't work to get to the Jaws menue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but
they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues
that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try
calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but
their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it
says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
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D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt
tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

JM Casey
 

So you can do other JAWS commands with the JAWS modifier, but you can't
bring up a JAWS menu, is what you're saying?

Have you ever tried a JAWS re-install?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in,
but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have
issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or
try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized,
but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work
(it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I
alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system
tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws
in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work
here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be
in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so
it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t
the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to
know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are
getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version
information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't
copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you
need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to
remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment
I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't
show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual
version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

Yes, it works fine on web pages.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but
they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues
that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try
calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but
their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it
says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt
tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

JM Casey
 

Ok..so you normally use the caps lock key, right?
But now that isn't working either?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in,
but they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have
issues that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or
try calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized,
but their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work
(it says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dM
D7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I
alt tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system
tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640a
fb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM
C4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf
8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws
in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work
here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be
in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so
it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t
the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to
know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are
getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version
information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't
copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you
need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to
remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment
I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't
show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual
version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

No.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

not to sound rude, and please don't be offended, but holding down insert and then pressing j doesn't get you to the interface for JAWS?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Madison Martin [mailto:maddymartin@mymts.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:38 PM
Subject: version questions
I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once (probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison











































.


moderated Re: version questions

Madison Martin
 

This is an issue that I've had since I got this laptop, and we took it in, but
they couldn't figure out why it doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

If you are hearing alt+windows+q when pressing the insert key, you have issues
that likely won't be resolved via email.
I think perhaps it is time to call Microsoft Accessibility 800-936-5900 Or try
calling Freedom Scientific, I don't have their support number memorized, but
their sales number is 800-444-4443.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Capslock key, as the actual insert key on this laptop doesn't seem to work (it
says alt windows q).

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j should never move to another icon.
Are you sure you are hitting insert+j? which insert key are you using?


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C576acca0d3cc40c4f25d08d8ac224836%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448610521732036%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dh1dMD7k3
ytpOAmoUWTc9Qquka5Qn1jqAuwOC%2FM1NdM%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

All it does when I press it is jump to another icon on my desktop. When I alt
tab Jaws doesn't come up, so what does that mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

So when you hit insert-j, nothing happens?
DO you have JAWS set to display in its own window or running from system tray?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com
%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C9a209a2679824f537e6e08d8ac219601%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448607533468793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL
jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=8nMMf8v%2
FHepOqrJu0YQFNivuxs%2FC21%2BdrKpE1zaKKYw%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Are there any JAWS scripts or tips and tricks to using the Amazon Music desktop app?

Richard B. McDonald
 

I just ended my 30 day trial period after not ever being able to get any acceptable level of accessibility out of it. As far as accessibility goes, it sucks. I even discussed it with Amazon Accessibility; which was fruitless as expected. I also tried the Amazon web version of the app, but it is likewise inaccessible. What's more, with the web app you cannot play "Amazon Music HD." On my "Fire TV" using "Voice View," there is some slight degree of accessibility but not enough to make it worth the subscription cost. This is all very surprising and disappointing to me given the apparent value of music to the blind.

I wish we could conjure-up a JAWS scripting effort for the desktop app!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Are their any JAWS scripts or tips and tricks to using the Amazon Music desktop app?

Well the subject says it all. The player is an inaccessible frowning pile of poo. A lot of unlabeled buttons. I miss playing music off my PC since I left Apple Music. Thanks.


moderated Re: version questions

Mario
 

not to sound rude, and please don't be offended, but holding down insert and then pressing j doesn't get you to the interface for JAWS?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Madison Martin [mailto:maddymartin@mymts.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:38 PM
Subject: version questions
I can't seem to get insert j to work...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Ok...up arrow twice then. :)Yes, exit is at the very bottom.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have
jaws in
the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work
here in
this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in
the system
tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible
something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42
.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f
640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp
;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little
window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once
(probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya
t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want
to know
your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting
that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version
information of
an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and
paste it as
though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you
need,
then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to
remember
outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I
can't find
it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the
keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't
show up
in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version
info
they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison











































.


moderated Re: version questions

JM Casey
 

It works with JAWS 2018, as well.

It would be a surprising change if they removed it altogether, but I did say the position of the option might be version dependent. It's usually very near the bottom of for example a help menu in most programmes.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: December 29, 2020 01:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

that used to work back when JAWS was at version 14 - 18. I don't think it works in later versions anymore.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:27 PM
Subject: version questions
I was referring specifically to insert+j then up arrow once.
For me, that lands on the exit button. Nothing about a version number.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site, www.turner42.com
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hello Richard.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that "it doesn't work if you have jaws in the system tray". Unless something has changed recently, it does work here in this fashion. I have not had JAWS set to use its own window/not be in the system tray for many years. I also don't have JAWS 2021, though, so it's possible something has changed...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 29, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Insert+j then up arrow does not work if you have Jaws in the System tray.
But, insert+j followed by control+insert+v works in any setup.
And, control+insert+v works in any and all programs.
Twice quickly puts it in the virtual window so you can copy it by using
shift+the arrow keys depending on how much you want to copy.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

* I'm not the card shark
* My web site,
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C1575a93d000c4e45ca1a08d8ac1ec0c1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637448595362659658%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=ihaCiTUHgDkcVqwEgvNuFcL0R%2B3ZoUfKpwF1KXqR0V8%3D&amp;reserved=0
*
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Yes that's what I'm wanting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: version questions

Hey Madison.
A good way to get JAWS version information displayed inn a convenient little window is to go to the JAWS menu with jaws key + j, and hit up arrow once (probably, this might be version dependent I suppose, but it's usuallya t the
bottom) to "about". Hit enter and you'll get what you need.

As for outlook, I am not sure quite what it is that you want. You want to know your outlook version number and then paste it to someone? If you are getting that info with tge command JAWS commands to display the version information of an executable, this isn't displayed on screen so you can't copy and paste it as though it was a line of text placed in an edit field.
It isn't. But if you wanted you could use speech history to retrieve it.
Press insert space, then h, then up arrow til you find the text that you need, then copy and paste, and press escape.
There are usually more efficient ways to get version info. I seem to remember outlook having an 'about" screen somewhere, too, but at the moment I can't find it. Haha



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: version questions

Hi all,
How do I get the exact version of Jaws that I'm running? Also, when I do the keystroke to get the Outlook version I copy and paste it, but it doesn't show up in the message, but as attachments, none of which are the actual version info they just seem to be recent messages, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Madison
































.

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