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moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Robbie Curtis
 

Hi All,

I guess I will have to resort to using my tablet for this task. Thanks for all of your assistance.

On Dec 27, 2020, at 4:25 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos <pantonop2856@...> wrote:

No, I do not remember such a behaviour.
Take care,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Les & Takis,


The issue I am having is Kindle initializes and opens and says that there are no books in my library and then closes. It doesn't even let me go in and adjust settings.


Has this even happened to either of you?


Thanks.

On 12/26/2020 4:32 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos wrote:
Hi Les-all,
Actually, no. I tested it with several books which I could read find with jaws, and now I can no longer, so it must be some sort of setting.
Cheers,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

I think it has to do with how the book was formatted. I had a book that worked perfectly with speech and braille. I could use the familiar Jaws commands to navigate the book. I also have a book for a class we are taking that cannot be navigated with speech or braille as you describe. I can use the built-in speech, but it's much more accessible to use the iPhone version for this particular book.
Best,

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis 
Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie 
Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.


































moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Les Kriegler
 

Actually, that behavior occurred on my elBraille, but not on my PC. Strange.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Les & Takis,


The issue I am having is Kindle initializes and opens and says that there are no books in my library and then closes. It doesn't even let me go in and adjust settings.


Has this even happened to either of you?


Thanks.

On 12/26/2020 4:32 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos wrote:
Hi Les-all,
Actually, no. I tested it with several books which I could read find with jaws, and now I can no longer, so it must be some sort of setting.
Cheers,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

I think it has to do with how the book was formatted. I had a book that worked perfectly with speech and braille. I could use the familiar Jaws commands to navigate the book. I also have a book for a class we are taking that cannot be navigated with speech or braille as you describe. I can use the built-in speech, but it's much more accessible to use the iPhone version for this particular book.
Best,

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis
Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie
Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.
























moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Jason White
 

On 12/26/20 9:54 PM, Robbie Curtis wrote:

The issue I am having is Kindle initializes and opens and says that there are no books in my library and then closes. It doesn't even let me go in and adjust settings.
I suppose you could try uninstalling and reinstalling it, removing all of its data files in the process. If you would lose data by doing this, then it's probably an issue for Amazon support. I suspect its configuration or data files have been corrupted, and you may well just have to reinstall.


moderated Re: OCR with HP office pro 8020

Jim Weiss
 

When I went out to the HP site to see if the full driver was available I also noticed that particular printer has a firmware update also available. You may want to consider upgrading the firmware on the printer to make sure that it is running at its optimal performance.

On Dec 23, 2020, at 11:00 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

So this is what we--I admit, my son--did.

I removed HP Smart application and the scanner / printer from the Printers and Scanners applet. I then went to support.hp.com and instead of using the recommended HP Smart that I used initially I chose 'HP Easy Start Printer Setup Software' under the Software - Utility heading.

This runs for a while and you are presented with options to install HP Smart (Recommended) or Full Driver setup. I chose the latter and now the scanner works with OpenBook as well as with JAWS OCR





moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

No, I do not remember such a behaviour.
Take care,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Les & Takis,


The issue I am having is Kindle initializes and opens and says that there are no books in my library and then closes. It doesn't even let me go in and adjust settings.


Has this even happened to either of you?


Thanks.

On 12/26/2020 4:32 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos wrote:
Hi Les-all,
Actually, no. I tested it with several books which I could read find with jaws, and now I can no longer, so it must be some sort of setting.
Cheers,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

I think it has to do with how the book was formatted. I had a book that worked perfectly with speech and braille. I could use the familiar Jaws commands to navigate the book. I also have a book for a class we are taking that cannot be navigated with speech or braille as you describe. I can use the built-in speech, but it's much more accessible to use the iPhone version for this particular book.
Best,

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis
Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie
Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.
























moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Jim Fettgather
 

As far as Kindle for PC, I launched it, it did an update, and all is working as it should with Jaws 2020.
The library is there, selecting a book is good, and reading the text works fine, therefore, maybe check for updates?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Les & Takis,


The issue I am having is Kindle initializes and opens and says that
there are no books in my library and then closes. It doesn't even let me
go in and adjust settings.


Has this even happened to either of you?


Thanks.

On 12/26/2020 4:32 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos wrote:
Hi Les-all,
Actually, no. I tested it with several books which I could read find with jaws, and now I can no longer, so it must be some sort of setting.
Cheers,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

I think it has to do with how the book was formatted. I had a book that worked perfectly with speech and braille. I could use the familiar Jaws commands to navigate the book. I also have a book for a class we are taking that cannot be navigated with speech or braille as you describe. I can use the built-in speech, but it's much more accessible to use the iPhone version for this particular book.
Best,

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.
























moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Robbie Curtis
 

Hi Les & Takis,


The issue I am having is Kindle initializes and opens and says that there are no books in my library and then closes. It doesn't even let me go in and adjust settings.


Has this even happened to either of you?


Thanks.

On 12/26/2020 4:32 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos wrote:
Hi Les-all,
Actually, no. I tested it with several books which I could read find with jaws, and now I can no longer, so it must be some sort of setting.
Cheers,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

I think it has to do with how the book was formatted. I had a book that worked perfectly with speech and braille. I could use the familiar Jaws commands to navigate the book. I also have a book for a class we are taking that cannot be navigated with speech or braille as you describe. I can use the built-in speech, but it's much more accessible to use the iPhone version for this particular book.
Best,

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.























moderated Do Any of You Use Spotify with JAWS?

Rick Miller
 

If any of you use Spotify with JAWS, can you tell me how to adjust podcast settings so that podcasts will play in ascending, not descending, order.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Video Chatting using Messenger with JAWS

Rick Miller
 

When you are using Facebook Messenger on a PC and use JAWS, how do you answer a video call when someone calls you?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Les-all,
Actually, no. I tested it with several books which I could read find with jaws, and now I can no longer, so it must be some sort of setting.
Cheers,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

I think it has to do with how the book was formatted. I had a book that worked perfectly with speech and braille. I could use the familiar Jaws commands to navigate the book. I also have a book for a class we are taking that cannot be navigated with speech or braille as you describe. I can use the built-in speech, but it's much more accessible to use the iPhone version for this particular book.
Best,

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.


moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Les Kriegler
 

I think it has to do with how the book was formatted. I had a book that worked perfectly with speech and braille. I could use the familiar Jaws commands to navigate the book. I also have a book for a class we are taking that cannot be navigated with speech or braille as you describe. I can use the built-in speech, but it's much more accessible to use the iPhone version for this particular book.
Best,

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.


moderated Re: Kindle Reader for PC

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Robbie,
In my case, it is not crashing, but I can no longer read the text, neither in braille, nor via jaws. This is a new computer as my good one was struck by lightning, so, I just don't know what setting I should check or change. Using windows 10 and jaws 2021.
All the best,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 23:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Kindle Reader for PC

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing.
Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.


moderated Re: windows mail keeps closing

David Griffith
 

 

Yes but as I said in my original email the Outlook preview pane is actually slower to use than actually opening up the email for screenreader users.

In relation to Brian’s ;s point on Message Preview I will investigate the thunderbird addon though – do you need sighted help to set it up with column assignments.

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: 25 December 2020 22:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

I believe Outlook has that feature too… called the viewing pane, visually using the right side of the screen and I think it is accessible.

 

And if it isn’t, just hit enter on the email and you have the full email in front of you; hit .esc) to close and then ‘delete key’ to delete.

 

I also remember that you could put the first sentence or paragraph in the column of emails, but that makes for a very long email column/index.

 

HTH, Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Thunderbird is sporadically buggy with me but  the main reason I  will still use Windows Mail is the  absolutely fantastic preview facility where simply cursoring down the inbox of messages will cause enough of the email to be read out to in most cases not need it to be opened. In the vast majority of cases I just hit the delete key after hearing the first part of the message.

This ability to review messages without having to open them individually is a massive time saver if you get lots of email traffic from lists etc.

I have tried cudgelling settings in both Outlook and Thunderbird  but I  have never managed to set up similar automatic reading of messages as is so usefully available in Windows Mail. Setting up the preview pane in Outlook simply makes it grind to a halt and you have to tab into the preview pane anyway so you might as well open the message.

 

The only other Mail client where I can get this efficiency with a screenreader  is Apple Mail on a Mac using Voiceover, though I would be intensely interested if other  options are known to people on Windows.

 

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: 25 December 2020 17:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Why don’t you guys try Thunderbird? That’s pretty reliable and pretty accessible. I’ve been using it for years.

Randy Barnett


On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Melissa Stott <mstott789@...> wrote:



I seem to be having this problem also, especially when I try to go to the folders.  It seems to crash, and I have to close out and reopen it.  Very frustrating!

 

                                                                Melissa

 

From: Marvin Kotler
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows mail keeps closing

 

Good evening listers; first, using jaws 2021 and the latest version of windows.  When trying to read messages in windows mail, the program keeps closing.  Had this problem in  earlier versions of windows.  When I use NVDA  which I do not know how to use very well, there is no problem.  Just wondered if anyone else had this problem and wondered if there is a solution.  Merry Christmas to all.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


moderated Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 02:31 PM, David Griffith wrote:
absolutely fantastic preview facility where simply cursoring down the inbox of messages will cause enough of the email to be read out to in most cases not need it to be opened.
-
Just as an FYI, there is an Add-On for Thunderbird called, unsurprisingly, Message Preview that allows you to do pretty much the same thing.  It creates a column (called Message Preview in the column selection list) that, if moved to where you can stretch it in the column order, will display the message content for as many characters as you have space for in the column width.  It requires moving the column to get it in to position to stretch it, though.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: windows mail keeps closing

Randy Barnett
 

That is an excellent reason to use mail. I love this feature in IOS.

On 12/25/2020 11:31 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Thunderbird is sporadically buggy with me but  the main reason I  will still use Windows Mail is the  absolutely fantastic preview facility where simply cursoring down the inbox of messages will cause enough of the email to be read out to in most cases not need it to be opened. In the vast majority of cases I just hit the delete key after hearing the first part of the message.

This ability to review messages without having to open them individually is a massive time saver if you get lots of email traffic from lists etc.

I have tried cudgelling settings in both Outlook and Thunderbird  but I  have never managed to set up similar automatic reading of messages as is so usefully available in Windows Mail. Setting up the preview pane in Outlook simply makes it grind to a halt and you have to tab into the preview pane anyway so you might as well open the message.

 

The only other Mail client where I can get this efficiency with a screenreader  is Apple Mail on a Mac using Voiceover, though I would be intensely interested if other  options are known to people on Windows.

 

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: 25 December 2020 17:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Why don’t you guys try Thunderbird? That’s pretty reliable and pretty accessible. I’ve been using it for years.

Randy Barnett


On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Melissa Stott <mstott789@...> wrote:



I seem to be having this problem also, especially when I try to go to the folders.  It seems to crash, and I have to close out and reopen it.  Very frustrating!

 

                                                                Melissa

 

From: Marvin Kotler
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows mail keeps closing

 

Good evening listers; first, using jaws 2021 and the latest version of windows.  When trying to read messages in windows mail, the program keeps closing.  Had this problem in  earlier versions of windows.  When I use NVDA  which I do not know how to use very well, there is no problem.  Just wondered if anyone else had this problem and wondered if there is a solution.  Merry Christmas to all.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


moderated Re: windows mail keeps closing

Ken Chernack
 

I believe Outlook has that feature too… called the viewing pane, visually using the right side of the screen and I think it is accessible.

 

And if it isn’t, just hit enter on the email and you have the full email in front of you; hit .esc) to close and then ‘delete key’ to delete.

 

I also remember that you could put the first sentence or paragraph in the column of emails, but that makes for a very long email column/index.

 

HTH, Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Thunderbird is sporadically buggy with me but  the main reason I  will still use Windows Mail is the  absolutely fantastic preview facility where simply cursoring down the inbox of messages will cause enough of the email to be read out to in most cases not need it to be opened. In the vast majority of cases I just hit the delete key after hearing the first part of the message.

This ability to review messages without having to open them individually is a massive time saver if you get lots of email traffic from lists etc.

I have tried cudgelling settings in both Outlook and Thunderbird  but I  have never managed to set up similar automatic reading of messages as is so usefully available in Windows Mail. Setting up the preview pane in Outlook simply makes it grind to a halt and you have to tab into the preview pane anyway so you might as well open the message.

 

The only other Mail client where I can get this efficiency with a screenreader  is Apple Mail on a Mac using Voiceover, though I would be intensely interested if other  options are known to people on Windows.

 

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: 25 December 2020 17:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Why don’t you guys try Thunderbird? That’s pretty reliable and pretty accessible. I’ve been using it for years.

Randy Barnett


On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Melissa Stott <mstott789@...> wrote:



I seem to be having this problem also, especially when I try to go to the folders.  It seems to crash, and I have to close out and reopen it.  Very frustrating!

 

                                                                Melissa

 

From: Marvin Kotler
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows mail keeps closing

 

Good evening listers; first, using jaws 2021 and the latest version of windows.  When trying to read messages in windows mail, the program keeps closing.  Had this problem in  earlier versions of windows.  When I use NVDA  which I do not know how to use very well, there is no problem.  Just wondered if anyone else had this problem and wondered if there is a solution.  Merry Christmas to all.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


moderated Kindle Reader for PC

Robbie Curtis
 

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays,


I recently downloaded the Kindle Reader for PC and it keeps crashing. Has any of you had this problem and if so how did you fix it? I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.


All help is greatly appreciated.


moderated Re: windows mail keeps closing

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Marvin,

 

I’m also using Windows 10 and JAWS 2021 latest version. I haven’t had a lot of trouble with the program closing—but it does happen on occasion. I wonder if it’s because I key too fast. Not sure if that’s it, but I’m more conscious of it now. If it doesn’t happen for you with NVDA, then I have to think it must be JAWS. Here’s what I have noticed: sometimes mail closes, but usually it is only JAWS. Often, when everything gets silent, I simply press the hot key for JAWS and it’s back and speaking the mail.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Marvin Kotler
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows mail keeps closing

 

Good evening listers; first, using jaws 2021 and the latest version of windows.  When trying to read messages in windows mail, the program keeps closing.  Had this problem in  earlier versions of windows.  When I use NVDA  which I do not know how to use very well, there is no problem.  Just wondered if anyone else had this problem and wondered if there is a solution.  Merry Christmas to all.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


moderated Re: windows mail keeps closing

Melissa Stott
 

I have to agree.  Not a huge fan of Thunderbird either, but that’s just my opinion.

 

                                                                Melissa

 

From: David Griffith
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Thunderbird is sporadically buggy with me but  the main reason I  will still use Windows Mail is the  absolutely fantastic preview facility where simply cursoring down the inbox of messages will cause enough of the email to be read out to in most cases not need it to be opened. In the vast majority of cases I just hit the delete key after hearing the first part of the message.

This ability to review messages without having to open them individually is a massive time saver if you get lots of email traffic from lists etc.

I have tried cudgelling settings in both Outlook and Thunderbird  but I  have never managed to set up similar automatic reading of messages as is so usefully available in Windows Mail. Setting up the preview pane in Outlook simply makes it grind to a halt and you have to tab into the preview pane anyway so you might as well open the message.

 

The only other Mail client where I can get this efficiency with a screenreader  is Apple Mail on a Mac using Voiceover, though I would be intensely interested if other  options are known to people on Windows.

 

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: 25 December 2020 17:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Why don’t you guys try Thunderbird? That’s pretty reliable and pretty accessible. I’ve been using it for years.

Randy Barnett


On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Melissa Stott <mstott789@...> wrote:



I seem to be having this problem also, especially when I try to go to the folders.  It seems to crash, and I have to close out and reopen it.  Very frustrating!

 

                                                                Melissa

 

From: Marvin Kotler
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows mail keeps closing

 

Good evening listers; first, using jaws 2021 and the latest version of windows.  When trying to read messages in windows mail, the program keeps closing.  Had this problem in  earlier versions of windows.  When I use NVDA  which I do not know how to use very well, there is no problem.  Just wondered if anyone else had this problem and wondered if there is a solution.  Merry Christmas to all.

Marv

 

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moderated Re: windows mail keeps closing

David Griffith
 

Thunderbird is sporadically buggy with me but  the main reason I  will still use Windows Mail is the  absolutely fantastic preview facility where simply cursoring down the inbox of messages will cause enough of the email to be read out to in most cases not need it to be opened. In the vast majority of cases I just hit the delete key after hearing the first part of the message.

This ability to review messages without having to open them individually is a massive time saver if you get lots of email traffic from lists etc.

I have tried cudgelling settings in both Outlook and Thunderbird  but I  have never managed to set up similar automatic reading of messages as is so usefully available in Windows Mail. Setting up the preview pane in Outlook simply makes it grind to a halt and you have to tab into the preview pane anyway so you might as well open the message.

 

The only other Mail client where I can get this efficiency with a screenreader  is Apple Mail on a Mac using Voiceover, though I would be intensely interested if other  options are known to people on Windows.

 

David Griffith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: 25 December 2020 17:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows mail keeps closing

 

Why don’t you guys try Thunderbird? That’s pretty reliable and pretty accessible. I’ve been using it for years.

Randy Barnett


On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Melissa Stott <mstott789@...> wrote:



I seem to be having this problem also, especially when I try to go to the folders.  It seems to crash, and I have to close out and reopen it.  Very frustrating!

 

                                                                Melissa

 

From: Marvin Kotler
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows mail keeps closing

 

Good evening listers; first, using jaws 2021 and the latest version of windows.  When trying to read messages in windows mail, the program keeps closing.  Had this problem in  earlier versions of windows.  When I use NVDA  which I do not know how to use very well, there is no problem.  Just wondered if anyone else had this problem and wondered if there is a solution.  Merry Christmas to all.

Marv

 

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