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moderated Re: Jaws2020 keep asking update

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

If you are using 2020 when you get this notification, it is trying to get you to download the update to 2020 which came out last week.
Do you realize that you can install both versions and use either one?
Marie
 
 

From: O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 4:04 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 keep asking update
 

Hi All I noticed when I shut down  or restart the computer  jaws update keep asking me if I want to update the jaws ,Is this update will take me to download jaws2021? If so ,I already have jaws2021  but I’m not ready to used jaws2021  and that’s why I want to used jaws2020 !! How can I stop jaws update  in jaws2020 for not asking me to update jaws?

Addison


moderated Re: Jaws2020 keep asking update

Maria Campbell
 

There is an update to JAWS 2020, so you had better listen to see which version of JAWS is asking you to update.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
On 12/21/2020 7:04 PM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:

Hi All I noticed when I shut down  or restart the computer  jaws update keep asking me if I want to update the jaws ,Is this update will take me to download jaws2021? If so ,I already have jaws2021  but I’m not ready to used jaws2021  and that’s why I want to used jaws2020 !! How can I stop jaws update  in jaws2020 for not asking me to update jaws?

Addison


moderated Jaws2020 keep asking update

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All I noticed when I shut down  or restart the computer  jaws update keep asking me if I want to update the jaws ,Is this update will take me to download jaws2021? If so ,I already have jaws2021  but I’m not ready to used jaws2021  and that’s why I want to used jaws2020 !! How can I stop jaws update  in jaws2020 for not asking me to update jaws?

Addison


moderated Re: How should Custom Highlights work?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, again, Jonathan. To make it easier to find Custom Highlight Assign in JAWS Help,

 

1. Open JAWS Help.

2. Arrow down to JAWS Help Topics, and press ENTER.

3. Press CONTROL plus TAB until JAWS says Index Page.

4. Once on the Index Page, type the words custom highlight into the search box. Now the topic will come up in the search results.

5. Press F6 to open the first topic. Links at the bottom of this first topic will direct you to related topics.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How should Custom Highlights work?

 

I was not able to find help documentation for Custom Highlight in JAWS 2021. But the short description in settings center goes along with my understanding. 

Where did you find documentation?

Jonathan

 



On Dec 19, 2020, at 9:06 AM, James Benstead <james.benstead@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

Thanks, that's really interesting. It sounds like Custom Highlights works in a different way to what is described in the help file, is that right? Are you able to provide any examples of how you use Custom Highlights that I could replicate on my own JAWS installation? I'm keen to know what the feature does and how it works but I'm struggling to do that.

 

Thank you!

 

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 15:35, Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io <jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I generally use custom highlighting features in applications that do not indicate selected items correctly. For example if you have an application (not a web page one!) that has a list and you are supposed to press space to select an item in the list but JAWS does not recognize this. You might find that the selected text is Bright orange background. So, bring up the custom highlight tool and it will recognize the foreground and background color of the currently focused item. You can then tell JAWS to use that foreground and/or background color to indicate an item is selected.

 



On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:59 PM, James Benstead <james.benstead@...> wrote:

 

I've never used Custom Highlights before and I'm trying to figure out how they work. I've read through the Custom Highlight Colors section of the help file but Custom Highlights are not working the way I would expect.

 

To test CH I've created a Word document with five paragraphs. The text in each paragraph is a different colour. I go to the fourth paragraph, which is green, and hit:

  • CTRL + INS + H and then enter to "Set foreground and background"
  • Enter again to confirm
  • The "Customer Highlight Options - WORD" dialog appears, and confirms that "SpringGreen3 on white" is set as a Highlight
  • Enter to close the dialog and return to Word

According to the help file, "Once assigned, text matching the color(s) you have specified is treated as highlighted by JAWS. For example, SaySelectedText (INSERT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW) reads Custom Highlights you have assigned." When I hit INS + SHIFT + DOWN, I would expect JAWS to read out the green text, but it doesn't: instead, it just says "nothing selected".

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

(Apologies for crossposting; I originally asked about this on the JAWS UK list, but didn't get a response).

 

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moderated Re: How should Custom Highlights work?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hello, Jonathan. Here is the documentation for Custom Highlight Assign from JAWS Help

 

Custom Highlight Assign

Use Custom Highlight Assign to specify colors that are then recognized by JAWS as highlighted. This is very useful in applications that do not use Windows colors, or do not allow you to modify preset color settings. For more information, please refer to Custom Highlight Colors.

 

Custom Highlight Colors

Windows uses highlights to set apart icons and menu items that have the system focus. Text that is selected is also highlighted. The colors used for these

highlights are set in Control Panel, Display, Appearance. These colors are also specified in some applications. JAWS reads the text of highlighted items,

an JAWS echoes changes to what is highlighted. So when you move through a menu, JAWS reads each menu item to which the highlight (or selection) is moved.

In JAWS, you can now specify which colors are recognized as custom highlights for your applications. Specify custom highlights based on:

list of 3 items

• Foreground Color (text color)

• Background Color

• Both Foreground and Background Colors

list end

Once assigned, text matching the color(s) you have specified is treated as highlighted by JAWS. For example, SaySelectedText (INSERT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW)

reads Custom Highlights you have assigned.

See also:

Assigning Custom Highlight Colors

Custom Highlight Options Dialog

 

Custom Highlight Options

Use the Custom Highlight Options dialog box to modify how JAWS reacts to Custom Highlights you have assigned for an application. Change how JAWS treats Windows Highlights and Custom Highlights or delete assigned Custom Highlights. However, you cannot assign Custom Highlights from this dialog. See Assigning Custom Highlight Colors.

 

To open the dialog box, do the following:

 

Open Settings Center, and type "Custom Highlight" without the quotes in the Search edit box.

Press DOWN ARROW to move to the filtered results, and select Configure Highlight Colors.

Press SPACEBAR to open the Custom Highlight Options dialog box.

The dialog box contains the following items:

 

Highlights List View

This list contains all of the defined color highlights. To remove an item in this list, select the Delete button or press DELETE on the keyboard.

 

Color Highlight Group

Use this series of radio buttons to specify which highlights are spoken. Regardless of this radio button selection, all of the custom highlights are displayed in the Highlights list view. The following options are available:

 

Windows Only: When this is checked, only the Windows Standard Highlights are treated as highlights. All custom colors defined for the application are ignored.

Custom Only: When this is checked, only the custom highlight colors are treated as highlights. Windows Standard Highlights are ignored.

Windows and Custom: Both Windows Standard Highlights and Custom Highlights defined in this application are processed as highlights.

See also:

 

Custom Highlight Colors

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How should Custom Highlights work?

 

I was not able to find help documentation for Custom Highlight in JAWS 2021. But the short description in settings center goes along with my understanding. 

Where did you find documentation?

Jonathan

 



On Dec 19, 2020, at 9:06 AM, James Benstead <james.benstead@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

Thanks, that's really interesting. It sounds like Custom Highlights works in a different way to what is described in the help file, is that right? Are you able to provide any examples of how you use Custom Highlights that I could replicate on my own JAWS installation? I'm keen to know what the feature does and how it works but I'm struggling to do that.

 

Thank you!

 

--

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On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 15:35, Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io <jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I generally use custom highlighting features in applications that do not indicate selected items correctly. For example if you have an application (not a web page one!) that has a list and you are supposed to press space to select an item in the list but JAWS does not recognize this. You might find that the selected text is Bright orange background. So, bring up the custom highlight tool and it will recognize the foreground and background color of the currently focused item. You can then tell JAWS to use that foreground and/or background color to indicate an item is selected.

 



On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:59 PM, James Benstead <james.benstead@...> wrote:

 

I've never used Custom Highlights before and I'm trying to figure out how they work. I've read through the Custom Highlight Colors section of the help file but Custom Highlights are not working the way I would expect.

 

To test CH I've created a Word document with five paragraphs. The text in each paragraph is a different colour. I go to the fourth paragraph, which is green, and hit:

  • CTRL + INS + H and then enter to "Set foreground and background"
  • Enter again to confirm
  • The "Customer Highlight Options - WORD" dialog appears, and confirms that "SpringGreen3 on white" is set as a Highlight
  • Enter to close the dialog and return to Word

According to the help file, "Once assigned, text matching the color(s) you have specified is treated as highlighted by JAWS. For example, SaySelectedText (INSERT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW) reads Custom Highlights you have assigned." When I hit INS + SHIFT + DOWN, I would expect JAWS to read out the green text, but it doesn't: instead, it just says "nothing selected".

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

(Apologies for crossposting; I originally asked about this on the JAWS UK list, but didn't get a response).

 

--

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moderated Re: How should Custom Highlights work?

Cohn, Jonathan
 

I was not able to find help documentation for Custom Highlight in JAWS 2021. But the short description in settings center goes along with my understanding. 
Where did you find documentation?
Jonathan


On Dec 19, 2020, at 9:06 AM, James Benstead <james.benstead@...> wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks, that's really interesting. It sounds like Custom Highlights works in a different way to what is described in the help file, is that right? Are you able to provide any examples of how you use Custom Highlights that I could replicate on my own JAWS installation? I'm keen to know what the feature does and how it works but I'm struggling to do that.

Thank you!

--
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 15:35, Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io <jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
I generally use custom highlighting features in applications that do not indicate selected items correctly. For example if you have an application (not a web page one!) that has a list and you are supposed to press space to select an item in the list but JAWS does not recognize this. You might find that the selected text is Bright orange background. So, bring up the custom highlight tool and it will recognize the foreground and background color of the currently focused item. You can then tell JAWS to use that foreground and/or background color to indicate an item is selected.


On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:59 PM, James Benstead <james.benstead@...> wrote:

I've never used Custom Highlights before and I'm trying to figure out how they work. I've read through the Custom Highlight Colors section of the help file but Custom Highlights are not working the way I would expect.

To test CH I've created a Word document with five paragraphs. The text in each paragraph is a different colour. I go to the fourth paragraph, which is green, and hit:
  • CTRL + INS + H and then enter to "Set foreground and background"
  • Enter again to confirm
  • The "Customer Highlight Options - WORD" dialog appears, and confirms that "SpringGreen3 on white" is set as a Highlight
  • Enter to close the dialog and return to Word
According to the help file, "Once assigned, text matching the color(s) you have specified is treated as highlighted by JAWS. For example, SaySelectedText (INSERT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW) reads Custom Highlights you have assigned." When I hit INS + SHIFT + DOWN, I would expect JAWS to read out the green text, but it doesn't: instead, it just says "nothing selected".

What am I doing wrong?

(Apologies for crossposting; I originally asked about this on the JAWS UK list, but didn't get a response).

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moderated Re: Outlook 365 Favorites question

Mark Arnold ABG
 

Thanks Joe!

 

That worked great…

 

Mark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 365 Favorites question

 

Hi,

Just add Ctrl to the Tab key.

Happy Holidays,

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 5:04 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 365 Favorites question

 

Hello List,

 

I am new to Outlook 365.  My list of favorites does show up as a sighted person can see them.  When I used Outlook 2010 I could access my favorites by tabbing from my list of messages.  How do I maneuver to the favorites folder?

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Outlook 365 Favorites question

Mark Arnold ABG
 

Thanks Dan,

 

It actually dawned on me to try that right after I posted the question…

 

Mark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 2:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 365 Favorites question

 

Hi,

  I use the F6 key to cycle through Outlook .  Shift & F6 takes me back.  When I open Outlook it lands in the message area.  I Shift & F6 to go to the Navigation panel where all of my folders including Favorites reside.  Do not always land at top so I up arrow to start at top of Favorites list.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 5:04 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 365 Favorites question

 

Hello List,

 

I am new to Outlook 365.  My list of favorites does show up as a sighted person can see them.  When I used Outlook 2010 I could access my favorites by tabbing from my list of messages.  How do I maneuver to the favorites folder?

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Outlook 365 Favorites question

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  I use the F6 key to cycle through Outlook .  Shift & F6 takes me back.  When I open Outlook it lands in the message area.  I Shift & F6 to go to the Navigation panel where all of my folders including Favorites reside.  Do not always land at top so I up arrow to start at top of Favorites list.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 5:04 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 365 Favorites question

 

Hello List,

 

I am new to Outlook 365.  My list of favorites does show up as a sighted person can see them.  When I used Outlook 2010 I could access my favorites by tabbing from my list of messages.  How do I maneuver to the favorites folder?

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: gmail question

Madison Martin
 

Thanks Jim, it worked!!!!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Benstead
Sent: December 21, 2020 2:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: gmail question

 

Hi Madison,

 

To add a forwarding address in GMail (instructions copied from https://support.google.com/mail/answer/10957?hl=en-GB):

 

  1. On your computer, open Gmail using the account that you want to forward messages from. You can only forward messages for a single Gmail address, not for an email group or alias.
  2. In the top right, click Settings   See all settings. 
  3. Click on the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
  4. In the "Forwarding" section, click Add a forwarding address.
  5. Enter the email address that you want to forward messages to.
  6. Click Next  Proceed  OK.
  7. A verification message will be sent to that address. Click the verification link in that message.
  8. Go back to the settings page for the Gmail account that you want to forward messages from and refresh your browser.
  9. Click on the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
  10. In the 'Forwarding' section, select Forward a copy of incoming emails to.
  11. Choose what you want to happen with the Gmail copy of your emails. We recommend that you Keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox.
  12. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.

GMail is pretty accessible, but if those instructions don't work for you with JAWS let me know and I'll try to put something together more specific.

 

Jim

 

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 02:14, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I just created a gmail account, can someone please tell me how to set it so that
messages from it are forwarded to this address (the one that I'm writing this
message from)? I assume it's in settings, but after that I'm not sure where to
go, I have no experience with gmail. Thanks for any help, much appreciated!!
Madison






moderated Re: Lenovo laptop and function keys

 

Bonnie,

             Unless you have a laptop that does not have a keyboard that includes a number pad, I would avoid using laptop layout if you're not used to it.  The main reason (at least in my opinion) for the existence of laptop layout is that it was once far more common than it is now for a laptop keyboard to have no number pad.  But if yours has got one, use desktop layout instead.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: gmail question

 

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 09:53 AM, Ray Williams wrote:
I didn't think that gmail did auto forwarding any longer.
-
It does.
 
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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: gmail question

Ray Williams
 

I didn't think that gmail did auto forwarding any longer. maybe I am wrong
ray

On 12/20/20, Madison Martin <maddymartin@mymts.net> wrote:
Hi all,
I just created a gmail account, can someone please tell me how to set it so
that
messages from it are forwarded to this address (the one that I'm writing
this
message from)? I assume it's in settings, but after that I'm not sure where
to
go, I have no experience with gmail. Thanks for any help, much
appreciated!!
Madison







moderated Lenovo laptop and function keys

Bonnie Vegiard
 

Hi everyone,
Thanks for the feedback last week on my new Lenovo laptop and function keys. I was able to get someone to change the operating system so that the function keys are no longer mapped the way they were originally. Now my alt F4 does work, but none of the other function keys seem to work automatically. Can anyone help me with next steps to get the function keys to map to the jaws commands?


I am also not used to the laptop layout. Yesterday when I set up my Outlook 365 account, it wanted a password, and then the laptop told me that the caps lock key was engaged. So I am not sure if the password I typed in wasin caps OR not, but it looks like when I try to put in that password, it is not working no matter what I try. I need to know what I am typing in using the laptop layout, whether it is caps or not. Thanks!

Bonnie


moderated Re: Outlook 365 Favorites question

Joe
 

Hi,

Just add Ctrl to the Tab key.

Happy Holidays,

Joe

Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer

Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT

                Phone: 616.951.2142

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 5:04 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook 365 Favorites question

 

Hello List,

 

I am new to Outlook 365.  My list of favorites does show up as a sighted person can see them.  When I used Outlook 2010 I could access my favorites by tabbing from my list of messages.  How do I maneuver to the favorites folder?

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: gmail question

James Benstead
 

Hi Madison,

To add a forwarding address in GMail (instructions copied from https://support.google.com/mail/answer/10957?hl=en-GB):

  1. On your computer, open Gmail using the account that you want to forward messages from. You can only forward messages for a single Gmail address, not for an email group or alias.
  2. In the top right, click Settings Settings and then See all settings. 
  3. Click on the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
  4. In the "Forwarding" section, click Add a forwarding address.
  5. Enter the email address that you want to forward messages to.
  6. Click Next and then Proceed and then OK.
  7. A verification message will be sent to that address. Click the verification link in that message.
  8. Go back to the settings page for the Gmail account that you want to forward messages from and refresh your browser.
  9. Click on the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
  10. In the 'Forwarding' section, select Forward a copy of incoming emails to.
  11. Choose what you want to happen with the Gmail copy of your emails. We recommend that you Keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox.
  12. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
GMail is pretty accessible, but if those instructions don't work for you with JAWS let me know and I'll try to put something together more specific.

Jim

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On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 02:14, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just created a gmail account, can someone please tell me how to set it so that
messages from it are forwarded to this address (the one that I'm writing this
message from)? I assume it's in settings, but after that I'm not sure where to
go, I have no experience with gmail. Thanks for any help, much appreciated!!
Madison







moderated Re: How do I view extensions in chrome?

 

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:25 PM, Mike B wrote:
Alt + F, then press the letter, L, then press the letter, E, and this put you in your list of extensions.
-
In Chrome that would definitely be my preferred way to get to Extensions as well.
 
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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: How do I view extensions in chrome?

 

In Chromium based browsers, you can also enter the browser name, followed by colon double forward slash, followed by where extensions falls for that browser.  It's fast if you keep a list.

For example:
chrome://extensions

edge://extensions/

vivaldi://extensions

brave://settings/extensions  (brave nests extensions under its settings hierarchy, while the others have extensions as a standalone group)
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One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: How do I view extensions in chrome?

Mike B.
 

Hi Jessica,
 
Well, the quickest way I know of is, Alt + F, then press the letter, L, then press the letter, E, and this put you in your list of extensions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 7:03 PM
Subject: How do I view extensions in chrome?

Hi,

 

I’m using jaws2021 with the latest version of chrome.

 

I’m trying to figure out how to view what exstentions I have installed.

 

I’m aware that this can be accomplished through the menu, but that’s a lot of steps.

 

Is there a way to do it with less keystrokes?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

Jessica Dail

 


moderated Re: How do I view extensions in chrome?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Jessica. As far as I know, the only way to view extensions is,

 

1. Open Chrome.

2. Press ALT plus F, followed by S for Settings.

3. TAB once, and arrow down to the "Extensions" link, and press ENTER.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 7:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do I view extensions in chrome?

 

Hi,

 

I’m using jaws2021 with the latest version of chrome.

 

I’m trying to figure out how to view what exstentions I have installed.

 

I’m aware that this can be accomplished through the menu, but that’s a lot of steps.

 

Is there a way to do it with less keystrokes?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

Jessica Dail

 

 

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