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moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Bonnie Vegiard
 



On Dec 11, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Bonnie,

            That's only a partial model number.  The only thing I can find using it is:  

IdeaPad,IdeaPad 3 14ADA05,Model:81W0006KMH - Lenovo

If it is an IdeaPad then you would need a sighted assistant to handle getting into BIOS and doing the following, since there is no screen reader support without an operating system running, and BIOS is before operating system startup in any boot sequence.

Lenovo-branded products:

  1. Access the BIOS (method to enter BIOS in Windows 8.1Windows 10).
  2. Once in the BIOS menu, select the Configuration tab.
  3. Select Hotkey Mode and set to Disabled.
  4. Save and Exit the BIOS menu (press F10 and then Enter).

 

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

Randy Meyer
 

Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

Randy, it took some investigating as I did not realize I bought it more then 6 months ago. Anyway hope this helps. External USB Stereo Sound Card with Adjustable Volume, PHOINIKAS 6-in-One USB Hubs with 7.1 Surround Sound Audio Adapter, with 3.5 mm Headphone and Microphone Jack, for Windows, Mac, PC, Laptops, Desktops, PS4 Computer Sold by: PHOINIKAS

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: December 11, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

David:

What three channel mixer do you own? I might be interested in buying from Amazon.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

The 3 channel mixer I got from Amazon works perfectly. I have JAWS running through one channel and Zoom running through the computer speakers and if I want I can hear both at the same time. It even has a microphone jack which I used as a test and recorded a zoom meeting. The host is narcistic and does not like any of her imperfections repeated. Thus when a meeting is put to print or notes, all of her flaws are taken out. The sad thing is though, some important info is left out as well. Oh, well, no one is perfect and being a facilitator takes training.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: December 11, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

I have had many problems with those USB sound cards and Jaws -- a lot of it was hum -- I connect the phone jack to a mixer I have and I tried many usb sound cards and I had to actually get a dac to solve my hum problem -- a lot more expensive but it actually worked.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 10:50:05 -0500,
Mario wrote:
>
> I would imagine so because JAWS is speaking thru a different sound card.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Zel Iscel [mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au]
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> > Date: Friday, December 11, 2020, 10:11 AM > Subject: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings Hi David, > > Does that mean you can hear Jaws when you're sharing your screen with > sound whilst showing a video, without Jaws being heard by the other > meeting participants?
>
> Cheers
> Zel
>
> image001.jpg
>
> Zel Iscel
> Disability Specialist
> Inclusive World
> Mobile: 0413813885
> Email: zel@inclusiveworld.com.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David > Diamond > Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2020 7:02 AM > To:
main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings > > That's exactly the way I did it with a 3 channel mixer I got from > Amazon, it works great. I can hear the Zoom conference yet hear Jaws > through my hearing aids, if I want. Sometimes I don't want to hear > who left or join the meeting.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
> Sent: December 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings
>
> I use a usb sound adaptor and have a wireless headset base plugged
> in to it and I have been using this setup for over two years. once > you have your setup installed, press insert plus j then down arrow to > utilities and then to sound cards and press enter.select the device > you wish to use with JAWS and press enter. the selection should stay > once selected.
>
>
> Legend has it that on Wednesday 12/9/2020 12:37 PM, George Gray said:
> ----------------------------------------
> >How, exactly, did you accomplish this? I tried it a while back and
> was >totally unsuccessful, but would like to try again.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >On 12/9/20, Norma A. Boge <naboge@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > My selections for using Jaws with a second sound card seem to be
> > > staying where I set them. Thanks to all for the suggestions.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Norma
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat
> Byrne > > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:47 PM > > To:
> main@jfw.groups.io > > Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, > retaining settings > > > > Norma, > > I am using a similar setup to > yours. Mine was a bit unstable at > > first but, cross my fingers, it > has been stable for a couple of years.
> > > On the other hand, we tried a separarte USB > card in my wife's
> desktop and it > > never functioned successfully.
> > > There are too many variables to get a handle on.
> > > Good luck.
> > > Pat ByrneAt 09:07 PM 12/7/2020, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi group,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I hope everyone is doing well. I have my Jaws > >>2020 going
> through a USB sound card. I have all other sounds going > > >>through my default sound card to external speakers. I am > running > >>into times when Jaws gets set back to the default sound > card and the > >>system sounds come through my headphones. Or all > sounds come through > >>the default card (external speakers) Â or > through the headphones.
> > >>Or Jaws goes through the default card and the system sounds
> through > >>my headphones.
> > >>
> > >>How can I get Jaws and Windows 10 to retain my settings? I need
> to > >>keep this setup for hosting Zoom meetings.
> > >>
> > >>I have downloaded System Volume View but haven’t ¢t installed
> it yet.
> > >>Would working with this program to set profiles for different >
> >>configurations be easier than working with the Win > 10 settings?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Thanks for reading,
> > >>
> > >>Norma
> > >>
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> >HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY
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> >GEORGE BURRELL GRAY
> >
> >Los Cerros
> >Sosua
> >REPUBLICA DOMINICANA
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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Problem with jaws.

Chris Hill
 

I have jaws set to speak at the logon screen, and to start speaking after I log in.  The problem I'm having is that once it starts up again, insert-j does nothing.  If I quit jaws and restart, it works fine.  I tried a repair, and that didn't change anything.  It looked so promising on first boot, but I rebooted again, and it was back to problems.  I'm stumped.


moderated Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

David Diamond
 

Randy, it took some investigating as I did not realize I bought it more then 6 months ago. Anyway hope this helps. External USB Stereo Sound Card with Adjustable Volume, PHOINIKAS 6-in-One USB Hubs with 7.1 Surround Sound Audio Adapter, with 3.5 mm Headphone and Microphone Jack, for Windows, Mac, PC, Laptops, Desktops, PS4 Computer
Sold by: PHOINIKAS

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: December 11, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

David:

What three channel mixer do you own? I might be interested in buying from
Amazon.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

The 3 channel mixer I got from Amazon works perfectly. I have JAWS running
through one channel and Zoom running through the computer speakers and if
I want I can hear both at the same time. It even has a microphone jack which I
used as a test and recorded a zoom meeting. The host is narcistic and does not
like any of her imperfections repeated. Thus when a meeting is put to print or
notes, all of her flaws are taken out. The sad thing is though, some important
info is left out as well. Oh, well, no one is perfect and being a facilitator takes
training.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: December 11, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

I have had many problems with those USB sound cards and Jaws -- a lot of it
was hum -- I connect the phone jack to a mixer I have and I tried many usb
sound cards and I had to actually get a dac to solve my hum problem -- a lot
more expensive but it actually worked.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 10:50:05 -0500,
Mario wrote:
>
> I would imagine so because JAWS is speaking thru a different sound card.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Zel Iscel [mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au]
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> > Date: Friday, December
11, 2020, 10:11 AM > Subject: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings Hi
David, > > Does that mean you can hear Jaws when you're sharing your
screen with > sound whilst showing a video, without Jaws being heard by the
other > meeting participants?
>
> Cheers
> Zel
>
> image001.jpg
>
> Zel Iscel
> Disability Specialist
> Inclusive World
> Mobile: 0413813885
> Email: zel@inclusiveworld.com.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David >
Diamond > Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2020 7:02 AM > To:
main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings
> > That's exactly the way I did it with a 3 channel mixer I got from > Amazon,
it works great. I can hear the Zoom conference yet hear Jaws > through my
hearing aids, if I want. Sometimes I don't want to hear > who left or join the
meeting.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
> Sent: December 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings
>
> I use a usb sound adaptor and have a wireless headset base plugged
> in to it and I have been using this setup for over two years. once > you
have your setup installed, press insert plus j then down arrow to > utilities
and then to sound cards and press enter.select the device > you wish to use
with JAWS and press enter. the selection should stay > once selected.
>
>
> Legend has it that on Wednesday 12/9/2020 12:37 PM, George Gray said:
> ----------------------------------------
> >How, exactly, did you accomplish this? I tried it a while back and
> was >totally unsuccessful, but would like to try again.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >On 12/9/20, Norma A. Boge <naboge@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > My selections for using Jaws with a second sound card seem to be
> > > staying where I set them. Thanks to all for the suggestions.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Norma
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat
> Byrne > > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:47 PM > > To:
> main@jfw.groups.io > > Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, > retaining
settings > > > > Norma, > > I am using a similar setup to > yours. Mine was a
bit unstable at > > first but, cross my fingers, it > has been stable for a couple
of years.
> > > On the other hand, we tried a separarte USB > card in my wife's
> desktop and it > > never functioned successfully.
> > > There are too many variables to get a handle on.
> > > Good luck.
> > > Pat ByrneAt 09:07 PM 12/7/2020, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi group,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I hope everyone is doing well. I have my Jaws > >>2020 going
> through a USB sound card. I have all other sounds going > > >>through my
default sound card to external speakers. I am > running > >>into times when
Jaws gets set back to the default sound > card and the > >>system sounds
come through my headphones. Or all > sounds come through > >>the
default card (external speakers) Â or > through the headphones.
> > >>Or Jaws goes through the default card and the system sounds
> through > >>my headphones.
> > >>
> > >>How can I get Jaws and Windows 10 to retain my settings? I need
> to > >>keep this setup for hosting Zoom meetings.
> > >>
> > >>I have downloaded System Volume View but haven’t ¢t installed
> it yet.
> > >>Would working with this program to set profiles for different >
> >>configurations be easier than working with the Win > 10 settings?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Thanks for reading,
> > >>
> > >>Norma
> > >>
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> >--
> >HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY
> >
> >GEORGE BURRELL GRAY
> >
> >Los Cerros
> >Sosua
> >REPUBLICA DOMINICANA
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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

 

Bonnie,

            That's only a partial model number.  The only thing I can find using it is:  

IdeaPad,IdeaPad 3 14ADA05,Model:81W0006KMH - Lenovo

If it is an IdeaPad then you would need a sighted assistant to handle getting into BIOS and doing the following, since there is no screen reader support without an operating system running, and BIOS is before operating system startup in any boot sequence.

Lenovo-branded products:

  1. Access the BIOS (method to enter BIOS in Windows 8.1Windows 10).
  2. Once in the BIOS menu, select the Configuration tab.
  3. Select Hotkey Mode and set to Disabled.
  4. Save and Exit the BIOS menu (press F10 and then Enter).

 

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Scott Pearl
 

Thank you I didn't know that about the ThinkPad. When I was recently buying a laptop I was in Best Buy moving from computer to computer testing this out and the Lenovo I tried must not have been an ThinkPad and I assumed all computers from the same brand were the same.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

That is not entirely true. If the Lenovo is a ThinkPad the FN + Escape key works as well. I have two different models of the ThinkPad Lenovo and this combination works. However, the Lenovo Ideal Pad does required a different method. Thanks, for letting us know about the Dell and Asus I did not know you could use that combination.
Joe
Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT
Phone: 616.951.2142


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Pearl
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

The FN key is 3 to the left of the space bar. You'll need to use it each time you use a function key. If your laptop is a Dell or Asus, you can toggle what these function keys do by pressing Function Escape. If it's an HP or Lenovo you'll need to go into the bios.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Yes, I think I am. Where is the Effen key and do I need to use it every time I try to use a function key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie
Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard










moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Bonnie Vegiard
 

The Lenovo model is 81W0

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 04:43 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
So I have to use the Effen key every time I want to use one of the function keys as a function key?
-
Yes, you would have to use the F N key along with the JAWS key and whatever function key.  If it was normally JAWS+F6 it would require JAWS+F N+F6.

However, most people simply turn off the media keys feature on laptops if they're going to be using a screen reader, and that's whether they prefer (or must use, due to lack of a number pad) the laptop or desktop layout for JAWS or any other screen reader.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

 

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 04:43 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
So I have to use the Effen key every time I want to use one of the function keys as a function key?
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Yes, you would have to use the F N key along with the JAWS key and whatever function key.  If it was normally JAWS+F6 it would require JAWS+F N+F6.

However, most people simply turn off the media keys feature on laptops if they're going to be using a screen reader, and that's whether they prefer (or must use, due to lack of a number pad) the laptop or desktop layout for JAWS or any other screen reader.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

 

From Lenovo Support:

You may want to disable the hotkey functionality of the function keys (F1, F2, and so on) in Windows 8.1/10, to avoid having to press Fn to use the function. The methods differ by models: (help me to find my product name/serial number).

Note:
For some models like Yoga 900s or Yoga 910, hotkey settings have been removed from the BIOS configuration. Use Lenovo Settings to configure.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Joe
 

That is not entirely true. If the Lenovo is a ThinkPad the FN + Escape key works as well. I have two different models of the ThinkPad Lenovo and this combination works. However, the Lenovo Ideal Pad does required a different method. Thanks, for letting us know about the Dell and Asus I did not know you could use that combination.
Joe
Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer
Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT
Phone: 616.951.2142

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Pearl
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

The FN key is 3 to the left of the space bar. You'll need to use it each time you use a function key. If your laptop is a Dell or Asus, you can toggle what these function keys do by pressing Function Escape. If it's an HP or Lenovo you'll need to go into the bios.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Yes, I think I am. Where is the Effen key and do I need to use it every time I try to use a function key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie
Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard










moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Bonnie Vegiard
 

So I have to use the Effen key every time I want to use one of the function keys as a function key? And also I have to use the accompanying jaws key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Bonnie Vegiard via groups.io <bonnievegiard=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I think it is called a Lenovo. I’ll see if I can get to system information and get more.

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Scott Pearl <spearl@ics.idaho.gov> wrote:

The FN key is 3 to the left of the space bar. You'll need to use it each time you use a function key. If your laptop is a Dell or Asus, you can toggle what these function keys do by pressing Function Escape. If it's an HP or Lenovo you'll need to go into the bios.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Yes, I think I am. Where is the Effen key and do I need to use it every time I try to use a function key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie
Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard





















moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Bonnie Vegiard
 

I think it is called a Lenovo. I’ll see if I can get to system information and get more.

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Scott Pearl <spearl@ics.idaho.gov> wrote:

The FN key is 3 to the left of the space bar. You'll need to use it each time you use a function key. If your laptop is a Dell or Asus, you can toggle what these function keys do by pressing Function Escape. If it's an HP or Lenovo you'll need to go into the bios.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Yes, I think I am. Where is the Effen key and do I need to use it every time I try to use a function key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie
Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard


















moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Scott Pearl
 

The FN key is 3 to the left of the space bar. You'll need to use it each time you use a function key. If your laptop is a Dell or Asus, you can toggle what these function keys do by pressing Function Escape. If it's an HP or Lenovo you'll need to go into the bios.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Yes, I think I am. Where is the Effen key and do I need to use it every time I try to use a function key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie
Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard










moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

 

This is almost certainly not the result of the keyboard layout chosen by default (generally desktop), but of the laptop having its function keys mapped to media and other control functions by default.  You do not mention the make and model, so I can't offer any specific assistance to change that such that they act like function keys instead without it.

The F N key is generally on the lower left side of a US keyboard, most often the second key in on the lowest row.  The most common order, from leftmost until you hit spacebar, is CTRL, F N, Windows Key, ALT, then spacebar.
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moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Bonnie Vegiard
 

I did get the set up wizard to run and was able to set it to laptop layout.

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Bonnie Vegiard via groups.io <bonnievegiard=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Yes, I think I am. Where is the Effen key and do I need to use it every time I try to use a function key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard













moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Bonnie Vegiard
 

Yes, I think I am. Where is the Effen key and do I need to use it every time I try to use a function key?

On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard










moderated Re: Using fusion with laptop layout

Joe DiNero
 

Are you having issues with your other function keys? If so you probably need to use the Fn key.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using fusion with laptop layout

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard


moderated Using fusion with laptop layout

Bonnie Vegiard
 

Hi everyone,
I recently got a new laptop and have installed fusion 2021. The start up wizard did not ask me about laptop or desktop layout. Nothing is working the way I expect it to, including alt F4 does not close anything. Do I need to change the layout, and how do I do that? I have tried to find it in the help topics, but can’t find anything. I can’t even get a context menu to open up using the alt key. Help! Thank you.

Bonnie Vegiard


moderated Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.

 

Marty,

I found the FileInfo File Information Database site to be very helpful. Here is its link:

https://fileinfo.com/

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.

What is a .oga file and what program creates them or plays them?



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 -----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.

Hm, yes, I think the counter has been around for a really long time -- at least since 2010, when I think it was that I purchased the thing. Wow, that was a long time ago, now.

Some people on these lists recommend MP3 Direct Cut. I've never really been convinced to use it as I like GW and if I go to another audio editor, it's probably going to be Reaper at this point. But you could try and see if it suits your needs. It definitely doesn't have a lot of features but depending on how much editing you want to do, it might be good enough.
Otherwise, try Audacity? It's very functional, multi-track, and free. Not necessarily the easiest thing to get your head around; the interface is weird and the processing a bit slow. My podcast cohost, who does most of the tech stuff, insists that it's badly programmed. However I remember having success with it several years back. There's also a fair amount of documentation, including the VIP software guide for screen-reader users.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: December 11, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.

I thought that the demo of gold wave only brought up the help file when launched, but now it has a counter and it stops working after 200 actions, so I need another audio editor.
GW is 60 dollars to purchase, or 20 dollars per year.
That is more than I want to spend, more like 20 dollars for the unlimited time would be more like it for me.
So another recommendation would be good.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Barnett" <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.


If you have a lot of files use gold wave. It does batch conversions. The free demo is fully functional for 30 days. Well, at least it used to be.
I haven't used it for awhile.

On 12/8/2020 11:25 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
Hello All,

Does anyone know a JAWS friendly way to convert a music file from the
.oga format to .mp3?

Tim Ford






moderated Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.

 

Hi Glenn,



You might give Pazera Free Audio Extractor a try. It will definitely convert ogg files to mp3 and I believe it will also convert oga. You can check it out at this site:



https://www.pazera-software.com/products/audio-extractor/



Be careful with the download links on that page because like so many free software sites, the largest and earliest download link presented is to something other than the program featured on that page. Here are two good download links to pick from:



1. Windows 32-bit installer: https://www.pazera-software.com//get/?pid=162 <https://www.pazera-software.com/get/?pid=162&ft=w32i&dlt=fh&r&f=Pazera_Free_Audio_Extractor.exe> &ft=w32i&dlt=fh&r&f=Pazera_Free_Audio_Extractor.exe

2. Windows 64-bit portable: https://www.pazera-software.com//get/?pid=162 <https://www.pazera-software.com/get/?pid=162&ft=w64p&dlt=fh&r&f=Pazera_Free_Audio_Extractor_64bit_PORTABLE.zip> &ft=w64p&dlt=fh&r&f=Pazera_Free_Audio_Extractor_64bit_PORTABLE.zip



The only other download link provided was to a Windows 32-bit portable version but I did not include that one.



Pazera is very accessible and its user interface is similar to other conversion programs. You add the files you wish to convert to its main window and select the format to convert to. There are various options and settings. They also have helpful instructional material about program use on their site.



I hope this helps.



Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.



I thought that the demo of gold wave only brought up the help file when launched, but now it has a counter and it stops working after 200 actions, so I need another audio editor.

GW is 60 dollars to purchase, or 20 dollars per year.

That is more than I want to spend, more like 20 dollars for the unlimited time would be more like it for me.

So another recommendation would be good.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: "Randy Barnett" < <mailto:blindmansbluff09@gmail.com> blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>

To: < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 12:38 AM

Subject: Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.





If you have a lot of files use gold wave. It does batch conversions. The free demo is fully functional for 30 days. Well, at least it used to be.

I haven't used it for awhile.



On 12/8/2020 11:25 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hello All,
Does anyone know a JAWS friendly way to convert a music file from the
.oga format to .mp3?
Tim Ford

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