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Re: Jaws and Google Groups

Rick Miller
 

I am wondering the same thing.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Google Groups

 

Hello, what is the low down on JAWS and Google Groups? We are considering using it at my center for a group for instructors, but I am thinking that it may be a little hassle right off of the bat.


moderated Re: Office 365

tina sohl
 

Thanks Brian.

On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Tony Sohl wrote:


Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in
settings?
-
You don't, at least not literally.   The Virtual Ribbon is a JAWS feature
and turning it on or off is done in JAWS settings.  The virtual ribbon acts
as a mask or skin for the actual ribbons used by Windows or application
programs, but they are still there because they have been the standard user
interface under Windows for many years now.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide






moderated Re: Office 365

tina sohl
 

Thannks Bill. We appreciate it.

On 12/9/20, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Tony.As Brian just wrote, you don't actually get rid of the ribbons.
Instead, you change them into something that approaches the feel of a
classic menu. To do this,

1. Open Word.
2. Press JAWS key plus V to enter Quick Settings.
3. In the search box which appears, type virtual
4. Arrow down, and if you see something like,

Virtual Ribbon Menu not checked

5. Check this box with the Space Bar.
6. TAB to the OK button, and press Space or ENTER.

Now, the ribbons will appear different, and according to some people's
thinking, will be easier to use, although I don't personally think this to
be true.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 3:58 PM
To: support@serotek.com; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365

Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in
settings?

Thanks for all the help you have given us.

One thing we sent out a christmas newsletter that we do every year and
my father in law just got his copy and he told me it rtained the
formatting structure.

Is that new?

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP














moderated Re: Office 365

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tony.As Brian just wrote, you don't actually get rid of the ribbons.
Instead, you change them into something that approaches the feel of a
classic menu. To do this,

1. Open Word.
2. Press JAWS key plus V to enter Quick Settings.
3. In the search box which appears, type virtual
4. Arrow down, and if you see something like,

Virtual Ribbon Menu not checked

5. Check this box with the Space Bar.
6. TAB to the OK button, and press Space or ENTER.

Now, the ribbons will appear different, and according to some people's
thinking, will be easier to use, although I don't personally think this to
be true.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 3:58 PM
To: support@serotek.com; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365

Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in
settings?

Thanks for all the help you have given us.

One thing we sent out a christmas newsletter that we do every year and
my father in law just got his copy and he told me it rtained the
formatting structure.

Is that new?

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated Re: Office 365

 

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 06:57 PM, Tony Sohl wrote:
Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in settings?
-
You don't, at least not literally.   The Virtual Ribbon is a JAWS feature and turning it on or off is done in JAWS settings.  The virtual ribbon acts as a mask or skin for the actual ribbons used by Windows or application programs, but they are still there because they have been the standard user interface under Windows for many years now.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Office 365

Tony Sohl
 

Hi how do you get rid of the ribbons if you don't want them? Is this in settings?

Thanks for all the help you have given us.

One thing we sent out a christmas newsletter that we do every year and my father in law just got his copy and he told me it rtained the formatting structure.

Is that new?

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

David Diamond
 

That's exactly the way I did it with a 3 channel mixer I got from Amazon, it works great. I can hear the Zoom conference yet hear Jaws through my hearing aids, if I want. Sometimes I don't want to hear who left or join the meeting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: December 9, 2020 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

I use a usb sound adaptor and have a wireless headset base plugged in to it
and I have been using this setup for over two years. once you have your setup
installed, press insert plus j then down arrow to utilities and then to sound
cards and press enter.select the device you wish to use with JAWS and press
enter. the selection should stay once selected.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 12/9/2020 12:37 PM, George Gray said:
----------------------------------------
>How, exactly, did you accomplish this? I tried it a while back and was
>totally unsuccessful, but would like to try again.
>
>Thanks.
>
>On 12/9/20, Norma A. Boge <naboge@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > Hi group,
> >
> > My selections for using Jaws with a second sound card seem to be
> > staying where I set them. Thanks to all for the suggestions.
> >
> > Best,
> > Norma
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:47 PM
> > To: main@jfw.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings
> >
> > Norma,
> > I am using a similar setup to yours. Mine was a bit unstable at
> > first but, cross my fingers, it has been stable for a couple of years.
> > On the other hand, we tried a separarte USB
> card in my wife's desktop and it
> > never functioned successfully.
> > There are too many variables to get a handle on.
> > Good luck.
> > Pat ByrneAt 09:07 PM 12/7/2020, you wrote:
> >
> >>Hi group,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I hope everyone is doing well. I have my Jaws
> >>2020 going through a USB sound card. I have all other sounds going
> >>through my default sound card to external speakers. I am running
> >>into times when Jaws gets set back to the default sound card and the
> >>system sounds come through my headphones. Or all sounds come
through
> >>the default card (external speakers) Â or through the headphones.
> >>Or Jaws goes through the default card and the system sounds through
> >>my headphones.
> >>
> >>How can I get Jaws and Windows 10 to retain my settings? I need to
> >>keep this setup for hosting Zoom meetings.
> >>
> >>I have downloaded System Volume View but haven’t ¢t installed it
yet.
> >>Would working with this program to set profiles for different
> >>configurations be easier than working with the Win 10 settings?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks for reading,
> >>
> >>Norma
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY
>
>GEORGE BURRELL GRAY
>
>Los Cerros
>Sosua
>REPUBLICA DOMINICANA
>
>
>
----------------------------------------


moderated Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

ratshtron
 

I use a usb sound adaptor and have a wireless headset base plugged in to it and I have been using this setup for over two years. once you have your setup installed, press insert plus j then down arrow to utilities and then to sound cards and press enter.select the device you wish to use with JAWS and press enter. the selection should stay once selected.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 12/9/2020 12:37 PM, George Gray said:
----------------------------------------
How, exactly, did you accomplish this? I tried it a while back and
was totally unsuccessful, but would like to try again.

Thanks.

On 12/9/20, Norma A. Boge <naboge@mchsi.com> wrote:
Hi group,

My selections for using Jaws with a second sound card seem to be staying
where I set them. Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Best,
Norma


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

Norma,
I am using a similar setup to yours. Mine was a bit unstable at first but,
cross my fingers, it has been stable for a couple of years.
On the other hand, we tried a separarte USB
card in my wife's desktop and it
never functioned successfully.
There are too many variables to get a handle on.
Good luck.
Pat ByrneAt 09:07 PM 12/7/2020, you wrote:

Hi group,



I hope everyone is doing well. I have my Jaws
2020 going through a USB sound card. I have all other sounds going
through my default sound card to external speakers. I am running into
times when Jaws gets set back to the default sound card and the system
sounds come through my headphones. Or all sounds come through the
default card (external speakers) Â or through the headphones. Or Jaws
goes through the default card and the system sounds through my
headphones.

How can I get Jaws and Windows 10 to retain my settings? I need to keep
this setup for hosting Zoom meetings.

I have downloaded System Volume View but haven’t ¢t installed it yet.
Would working with this program to set profiles for different
configurations be easier than working with the Win 10 settings?



Thanks for reading,

Norma












--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Los Cerros
Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Converting from .oga format to mp3.

ratshtron
 

format factory will do it and so will prism from nch.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 12/9/2020 01:25 AM, Tim Ford said:
----------------------------------------
Hello All,

Does anyone know a JAWS friendly way to convert a music file from the .oga
format to .mp3?

Tim Ford



----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Office 365

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tina. While Word is open,

1. Press ALT f, followed by T for Options.
2. Arrow down to Save.
3. TAB through the settings there, and you should see something like,

Save only to my local computer, check box not checked.

4. Check that check box, TAB to OK, and press ENTER.

Now saving to OneDrive should be turned off.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Hi. We just subscribed to office 365 over the weekend and have a month
to try it and see if we like it. One thing i did was turn on the
option to autosave to one drive, but how do you turn that off if you
want to and can anyone give us any other tips to get going with it or
are there training tips on the website for jaws. thanks in advance.

On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:


All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual
ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to
use them like everyone else.
-
I'm glad to hear that this philosophy is shared widely. It is always best
to know how to actually interact with any given operating system or piece of
application software using its native interface. And unless you believe the
only computer you'll ever use is your own, it makes jumping on to another so
much easier when you already know how without using unnecessary intermediary
software.

Using Ribbons to Control Program Functions in Microsoft Windows - G. Asner (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1uTKhZZxWZ2QtF3KQgFCnO__gDdBKWmEn
)
Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B98uELZbPFnOTUI1dDhDaHpwTk0
)

The ribbons are menus, they simply have a slightly different traversal
interface. Once you know how to traverse them . . .
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide






moderated Re: Office 365

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
There are lots of help topics and resources on the Microsoft site. Also, you can save to locations other than "One Drive" by using the "Save as" option in the file menu. The program is very functional with JAWS and like all software has some glitches and hiccups at times.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Hi. We just subscribed to office 365 over the weekend and have a month to try it and see if we like it. One thing i did was turn on the option to autosave to one drive, but how do you turn that off if you want to and can anyone give us any other tips to get going with it or are there training tips on the website for jaws. thanks in advance.

On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:


All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the
virtual ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best
to learn to use them like everyone else.
-
I'm glad to hear that this philosophy is shared widely. It is always
best to know how to actually interact with any given operating system
or piece of application software using its native interface. And
unless you believe the only computer you'll ever use is your own, it
makes jumping on to another so much easier when you already know how
without using unnecessary intermediary software.

Using Ribbons to Control Program Functions in Microsoft Windows - G.
Asner (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1uTKhZZxWZ2QtF3KQgFCnO_
_gDdBKWmEn
)
Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B98uELZbPFnOTUI1dDhDaH
pwTk0
)

The ribbons are menus, they simply have a slightly different traversal
interface. Once you know how to traverse them . . .
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of
the shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide






moderated IBM Cognos Analytics

Walker, Michael E
 

Hi,

 

How much luck have you had using JAWS with IBM Cognos Analytics? What techniques did you use? I still find myself confused, even after reading the IBM accessibility guide.

 

Thank you,

Mike

 


moderated Re: Office 365

tina sohl
 

Hi. We just subscribed to office 365 over the weekend and have a month
to try it and see if we like it. One thing i did was turn on the
option to autosave to one drive, but how do you turn that off if you
want to and can anyone give us any other tips to get going with it or
are there training tips on the website for jaws. thanks in advance.

On 12/9/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:


All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual
ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to
use them like everyone else.
-
I'm glad to hear that this philosophy is shared widely.  It is always best
to know how to actually interact with any given operating system or piece of
application software using its native interface.  And unless you believe the
only computer you'll ever use is your own, it makes jumping on to another so
much easier when you already know how without using unnecessary intermediary
software.

Using Ribbons to Control Program Functions in Microsoft Windows - G. Asner (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1uTKhZZxWZ2QtF3KQgFCnO__gDdBKWmEn
)
Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B98uELZbPFnOTUI1dDhDaHpwTk0
)

The ribbons are menus, they simply have a slightly different traversal
interface.  Once you know how to traverse them . . .
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide






moderated Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

George Gray
 

How, exactly, did you accomplish this? I tried it a while back and
was totally unsuccessful, but would like to try again.

Thanks.

On 12/9/20, Norma A. Boge <naboge@mchsi.com> wrote:
Hi group,

My selections for using Jaws with a second sound card seem to be staying
where I set them. Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Best,
Norma


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

Norma,
I am using a similar setup to yours. Mine was a bit unstable at first but,
cross my fingers, it has been stable for a couple of years.
On the other hand, we tried a separarte USB card in my wife's desktop and it
never functioned successfully.
There are too many variables to get a handle on.
Good luck.
Pat ByrneAt 09:07 PM 12/7/2020, you wrote:

Hi group,



I hope everyone is doing well. I have my Jaws
2020 going through a USB sound card. I have all other sounds going
through my default sound card to external speakers. I am running into
times when Jaws gets set back to the default sound card and the system
sounds come through my headphones. Or all sounds come through the
default card (external speakers) Â or through the headphones. Or Jaws
goes through the default card and the system sounds through my
headphones.

How can I get Jaws and Windows 10 to retain my settings? I need to keep
this setup for hosting Zoom meetings.

I have downloaded System Volume View but haven’t installed it yet.
Would working with this program to set profiles for different
configurations be easier than working with the Win 10 settings?



Thanks for reading,

Norma











--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Los Cerros
Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


moderated Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

My selections for using Jaws with a second sound card seem to be staying where I set them. Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Best,
Norma

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2nd sound card for Jaws, retaining settings

Norma,
I am using a similar setup to yours. Mine was a bit unstable at first but, cross my fingers, it has been stable for a couple of years.
On the other hand, we tried a separarte USB card in my wife's desktop and it never functioned successfully.
There are too many variables to get a handle on.
Good luck.
Pat ByrneAt 09:07 PM 12/7/2020, you wrote:

Hi group,



I hope everyone is doing well. I have my Jaws
2020 going through a USB sound card. I have all other sounds going
through my default sound card to external speakers. I am running into
times when Jaws gets set back to the default sound card and the system
sounds come through my headphones. Or all sounds come through the
default card (external speakers) Â or through the headphones. Or Jaws
goes through the default card and the system sounds through my
headphones.

How can I get Jaws and Windows 10 to retain my settings? I need to keep
this setup for hosting Zoom meetings.

I have downloaded System Volume View but haven’t installed it yet.
Would working with this program to set profiles for different
configurations be easier than working with the Win 10 settings?



Thanks for reading,

Norma


moderated Re: reputation-based protection

Leo
 

Hi, I'm using jaws 2021 and I've had no trouble regarding this matter so far; however,  in connection with reputation based protection, I want to say that, it's a vexing matter, no doubt, but a necessary one because if you ever got  your PC infected with a Trojan that is redirecting your browser, this feature will prevent these usually harmful pages from loading.

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 12/9/2020 10:11 AM, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Mario. Turning on or off any option in reputation-based protection is
strictly a personal matter, and as I told Stan, I turned off all options in
this category, because I don't go to any dangerous sites, and I don't want
Windows or my browser to prevent me from downloading files. After I download
them, I can use the Context Menu to have Windows Security scan the file
before I install it.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reputation-based protection

Bill, I have been upgraded to 20H2 but haven't been asked to enable
reputation based protection, but I'd be interested to know what should
be turned on or off in case I might be eventually asked in the near future.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:37 AM
Subject: reputation-based protection
Hi, Stan. I don't think turning on reputation-based protection has
caused any conflicts with JAWS 2021 for me. The reason I left
reputation-based protection turned off is that I didn't need my
antivirus and my browser telling me about supposed threats, and causing
me not to be able to download files which I know to be harmless. I can
get along with only my antivirus telling me about supposed threats. Once
I get the file, I can scan that one file with Windows Security, and make
sure it isn't a threat.

I will write you privately, in case you would like me to tandem into
your computer, and talk over with you what you want to be left turned
on, and what you want turned off. I will also give my phone number,
since that will facilitate talking with you as I work with your computer.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Stan Holdeman
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:30 AM
*To:* JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io)
*Subject:* reputation-based protection

                  Good morning List: Since upgrading to Windows version
20H2 I have various problems in windows and jaws version 2021.

Soon after upgrade to 20H2, Windows Security notified me that they
wanted ne to turn on reputation-based protection which I did. I am
wondering if this might have created conflict with Jaws 2021.

Any thoughts on this?

Stan

















moderated Re: reputation-based protection

 

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM, Bill White wrote:
Turning on or off any option in reputation-based protection is strictly a personal matter
-
Yep.  The only thing I'll add to that is if you have reputation-based protection turned on, and it's flagging something you know to be safe, e.g. the JAWS installer itself, then you really need to report this.

Were it to be something like the JAWS installer, I'd report the situation to Freedom Scientific or the appropriate software maker, as their contacts with Microsoft to rectify this sort of issue are more direct than any end user's is.  But it doesn't hurt to report it via the Feedback Hub to Microsoft as well.  I've had false positives rectified, usually in less than 24 hours, using each of these methods at one time or another.  Sometimes the "best guess" of security software is wrong, and it will tend to err on the side of being more aggressively protective when uncertainty exists.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Office 365

 

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to use them like everyone else.
-
I'm glad to hear that this philosophy is shared widely.  It is always best to know how to actually interact with any given operating system or piece of application software using its native interface.  And unless you believe the only computer you'll ever use is your own, it makes jumping on to another so much easier when you already know how without using unnecessary intermediary software.

Using Ribbons to Control Program Functions in Microsoft Windows - G. Asner
Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard

The ribbons are menus, they simply have a slightly different traversal interface.  Once you know how to traverse them . . .
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: reputation-based protection

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Mario. Turning on or off any option in reputation-based protection is
strictly a personal matter, and as I told Stan, I turned off all options in
this category, because I don't go to any dangerous sites, and I don't want
Windows or my browser to prevent me from downloading files. After I download
them, I can use the Context Menu to have Windows Security scan the file
before I install it.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reputation-based protection

Bill, I have been upgraded to 20H2 but haven't been asked to enable
reputation based protection, but I'd be interested to know what should
be turned on or off in case I might be eventually asked in the near future.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:37 AM
Subject: reputation-based protection
Hi, Stan. I don't think turning on reputation-based protection has
caused any conflicts with JAWS 2021 for me. The reason I left
reputation-based protection turned off is that I didn't need my
antivirus and my browser telling me about supposed threats, and causing
me not to be able to download files which I know to be harmless. I can
get along with only my antivirus telling me about supposed threats. Once
I get the file, I can scan that one file with Windows Security, and make
sure it isn't a threat.

I will write you privately, in case you would like me to tandem into
your computer, and talk over with you what you want to be left turned
on, and what you want turned off. I will also give my phone number,
since that will facilitate talking with you as I work with your computer.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Stan Holdeman
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:30 AM
*To:* JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io)
*Subject:* reputation-based protection

                Good morning List: Since upgrading to Windows version
20H2 I have various problems in windows and jaws version 2021.

Soon after upgrade to 20H2, Windows Security notified me that they
wanted ne to turn on reputation-based protection which I did. I am
wondering if this might have created conflict with Jaws 2021.

Any thoughts on this?

Stan


moderated Re: Office 365

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Mario. They don't get rid of virtual ribbon because there are quite a few JAWS users who still aren't comfortable using the ribbon, and they want to make it as easy for these people as possible, so they'll keep using JAWS.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

when I hear about not using the virtual ribbons, I wonder why doesn't
FS/Vispero just get rid of it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:04 AM
Subject: Office 365
All the assistive Tech instructors I worked with turned off the virtual
ribbons, or rather, did not turn them on because it is best to learn to
use them like everyone else.
You cause yourself more convoluted steps to go through if you use them.
Virtual Ribbons was introduced in Jaws 12 as a way of dealing with the
new ribbon structure.
Since both Jaws and office have improved a lot over the years, it is
best to just learn to use them as they are.




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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew
Summers via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

How do you do that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 09 December 2020 07:00
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

If you use Jaws you can enable what is called Virtual Ribbons, they
convert the ribbon menus to a more traditional menu. However, I highly
reecommend you simply get used to the ribbon menu, it's here to stay at
least for now and in my opinion it's better to learn how to deal with it.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365

Hi my wife and I got the family plan for Microsoft Offic e 365 and we
are learing how to use it with JAWS for Windows.

Are there training tutorials on Freedom's page? Also, when using word,
is there a way to get rid of the ribbons if you don't want to use them?

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