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moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Richard. If you check the box under Options>Basics, that allows JAWS to run from the System Tray, then press INSERT plus J, you will, indeed hear "Context Menu. Not hearing this is a function of not running JAWS in the System Tray.

 

By the way, Just checking the Run From System Tray box will not change this behavior until you quit JAWS and start it again.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

 

That’s very interesting.

When I press insert+j I hear: JAWS Home Use.

I have Jaws in the lat+tab order.

This really isn’t a big deal, the person who asked the original question asked for the Jaws Context menu, but the answers given were for the standard Windows context menu which is probably what he meant anyway.

Insert+j to me has always been just the Jaws menu to get into some settings/options.

I think this is a good example of semantics.

  Grin.

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

 

When I press, Insert + J, Jaws reports, Jaws context menu submenu options.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:17 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

 

If you have JAWS set to run from the system tray, Insert J will bring up the
JAWS menu. If not alt f will bring up the JAWS menu. JAWS menu is not
usually referred to as a context menu.
when JAWS ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu


no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the
foreground and gives it focus."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu
When you press, Insert + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10. The applications
key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard
with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar. The keys are from left to
right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson















moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mike B.
 


It's not a big deal but, it should probably be noted to avoid confusion that there's a difference when running Jaws from the system tray and not running Jaws from the system tray.
 
When you run Jaws from the system tray and press, Insert + J, Jaws reports, Jaws context menu submenu options.
 
When Jaws is not running from the system tray and is in the, Alt + Tab order, pressing, Insert + J, Jaws reports, Jaws home use.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

That’s very interesting.

When I press insert+j I hear: JAWS Home Use.

I have Jaws in the lat+tab order.

This really isn’t a big deal, the person who asked the original question asked for the Jaws Context menu, but the answers given were for the standard Windows context menu which is probably what he meant anyway.

Insert+j to me has always been just the Jaws menu to get into some settings/options.

I think this is a good example of semantics.

  Grin.

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

 

When I press, Insert + J, Jaws reports, Jaws context menu submenu options.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:17 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

 

If you have JAWS set to run from the system tray, Insert J will bring up the
JAWS menu. If not alt f will bring up the JAWS menu. JAWS menu is not
usually referred to as a context menu.
when JAWS ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu


no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the
foreground and gives it focus."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu
When you press, Insert + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10. The applications
key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard
with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar. The keys are from left to
right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson
















moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Richard Turner
 

That’s very interesting.

When I press insert+j I hear: JAWS Home Use.

I have Jaws in the lat+tab order.

This really isn’t a big deal, the person who asked the original question asked for the Jaws Context menu, but the answers given were for the standard Windows context menu which is probably what he meant anyway.

Insert+j to me has always been just the Jaws menu to get into some settings/options.

I think this is a good example of semantics.

  Grin.

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

 

When I press, Insert + J, Jaws reports, Jaws context menu submenu options.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Loy

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:17 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

 

If you have JAWS set to run from the system tray, Insert J will bring up the
JAWS menu. If not alt f will bring up the JAWS menu. JAWS menu is not
usually referred to as a context menu.
when JAWS ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu


no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the
foreground and gives it focus."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu
When you press, Insert + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10. The applications
key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard
with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar. The keys are from left to
right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson
















moderated Re: What is an accessible download "speed test" website?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Thanks, Sieghard, this is very helpful!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is an accessible download "speed test" website?

 

Hi Richard,

 

I usually use Speedtest.net, for the iPhone they also have an app which works well, it is called Speedtest by Ookla.

I just tried fast.com and while it displayed my download speed, it showed 110 Mbps which seemed slow for my 275 Mbps fiber connection, this site does not display upload speed or the ping delay in milliseconds. Both of these can be very important depending on what you are doing.

If you use speedtest.net you get all of these readings and when right after I went to fast.com I went to speedtest.net and clicked the button to start the speedtest, my download speed was given as 247 Mbps which is much more in line with what it should be. There is also a Chrome extension for Speedtest which works well, I also just tried their Windows 10 app from the Microsoft Store, but it seems to be inaccessible at this point and when I tried to switch to the Jaws scan cursor it sort of locked up Jaws until I minimized all to go to the desktop, then Jaws came back and I could Alt + Tab back to the open Speedtest app and close it with Alt + F4.. But as I said, the website, Chrome extension and iOS app work great.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is an accessible download "speed test" website?

 

Thanks, Gerald, that site is great!

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is an accessible download "speed test" website?

 

 

The easiest and most accessible speed test is fast.com.  Just visit fast.com, and in a few seconds you will get your download speed in understandlable format.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 12/2/2020 2:39 PM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi!

 

I need to confirm the speed at which my Internet connection is able to download.  I am familiar with certain “speed test” websites for that purpose, but which is an accessible website for this?

 

Also, on a technical point, if I am on my WiFi and do this, is the test result 1) between the Internet and my WiFi router or 2) between the Internet and my laptop via the WiFi?  Is it better to plug-in my laptop into the router via an ethernet cable to do this test so as to make the test the “1” situation?  In considering the “2” situation, generally, what is a WiFi’s speed (assuming 4/4 signal strength bars) between the router and my laptop?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mike B.
 


When I press, Insert + J, Jaws reports, Jaws context menu submenu options.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

If you have JAWS set to run from the system tray, Insert J will bring up the
JAWS menu. If not alt f will bring up the JAWS menu. JAWS menu is not
usually referred to as a context menu.
when JAWS ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu


no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the
foreground and gives it focus."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu
When you press, Insert + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10. The applications
key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard
with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar. The keys are from left to
right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson

















moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

If you have JAWS set to run from the system tray, Insert J will bring up the
JAWS menu. If not alt f will bring up the JAWS menu. JAWS menu is not
usually referred to as a context menu.

when JAWS ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu


no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the
foreground and gives it focus."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu
When you press, Insert + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10. The applications
key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard
with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar. The keys are from left to
right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

Van Lant, Robin
 

Madison,
I'm running the latest Edge here. I just loaded JAWS 2018 and get the same issues you are having with edit fields. I do not have these issues when running JAWS 2021. Interestingly, If I load the same website in Google Chrome and use JAWS 2018, I do not seem to have the issues. So, if you are not able to upgrade to JAWS 2021, you might try Google Chrome or maybe Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Hello Madison,

As I said in my previous email, you have to go into Edge settings and disable some of the options regarding the automatic saving of passwords, predictive filling of search fields and so on.
I just tried in both the Edge address bar and in the search field on Google.com and I had no issues with Jaws 2021 letting me navigate whatever I had typed or what was in the address field by word or character and backspacing would read each character I was deleting.
You will most likely soon get the Windows 10 20H2 update since it seems you are a year behind and skipped Windows 10 Version 2004 this spring and since Microsoft now discontinues support for older Windows 10 versions fairly quickly, it is definitely in your best interest to keep Windows 10 up to date and with these latest versions f Windows Jaws 2018 just won't cut it any more or at least it will result in more and more inssues.
I think the subscription option would be best for you since you can get a subscription without having to pay any catch-up fees, if you wanted to upgrade to Jaws 2021 you would have to find out exactly how much that would cost from Vispero, but I think you are basically looking at two SMA's, one for Jaws 2019 and 2020 and the second to give you the update to Jaws 2021 and this one would also then cover Jaws 2022 next year. However, if you start the subscription all you ever have to worry is paying your $90 a year, not sure if you can also pay monthly since I'm in Canada where the subscription based model is not yet offered.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

This is not an email issue, only a Edge issue. I just worry that even after upgrading that I'll still have these issues, can anyone tell me with certainty that upgrading will fix these issues? If no one can tell me then it's not worth spending a bunch of money to upgrade if there's the potencial that I'll still have the same problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: December 3, 2020 10:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

Madison,

I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade.

As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to.

Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws question

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison





















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moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

 

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
As I said in my previous email, you have to go into Edge settings and disable some of the options regarding the automatic saving of passwords, predictive filling of search fields and so on.
-
In Chromium-based edge, Settings

1. Profiles Tab, Basic Info option - Turn off the toggle for Save and fill basic info

2. Profiles Tab, Passwords - Turn off the toggle for Offer to save passwords.

The equivalent exists in other Chromium-based browsers as well.  In Chrome, this is all located in the You and Google tab (which opens first in Settings) under the Autofill section, items Passwords and Addresses and more.  It's the same thing under Brave, but you have to expand Additional Settings before the Autofill section becomes visible.

In this age of Windows As A Service, it's more critical than ever that software be kept up to date, with screen readers being a part of that.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

Madison Martin
 

I'm in Canada too, so what model do you use? Can we still buy from Visparo, or
do we have to go to a Canadian dealer?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: December 4, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

Hello Madison,

As I said in my previous email, you have to go into Edge settings and disable
some of the options regarding the automatic saving of passwords, predictive
filling of search fields and so on.
I just tried in both the Edge address bar and in the search field on Google.com
and I had no issues with Jaws 2021 letting me navigate whatever I had typed or
what was in the address field by word or character and backspacing would read
each character I was deleting.
You will most likely soon get the Windows 10 20H2 update since it seems you are
a year behind and skipped Windows 10 Version 2004 this spring and since
Microsoft now discontinues support for older Windows 10 versions fairly quickly,
it is definitely in your best interest to keep Windows 10 up to date and with
these latest versions f Windows Jaws 2018 just won't cut it any more or at least
it will result in more and more inssues.
I think the subscription option would be best for you since you can get a
subscription without having to pay any catch-up fees, if you wanted to upgrade
to Jaws 2021 you would have to find out exactly how much that would cost from
Vispero, but I think you are basically looking at two SMA's, one for Jaws 2019
and 2020 and the second to give you the update to Jaws 2021 and this one would
also then cover Jaws 2022 next year. However, if you start the subscription all
you ever have to worry is paying your $90 a year, not sure if you can also pay
monthly since I'm in Canada where the subscription based model is not yet
offered.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

This is not an email issue, only a Edge issue. I just worry that even after
upgrading that I'll still have these issues, can anyone tell me with certainty
that upgrading will fix these issues? If no one can tell me then it's not worth
spending a bunch of money to upgrade if there's the potencial that I'll still
have the same problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: December 3, 2020 10:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

Madison,

I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever
since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't
with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution
has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to
close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and
see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade.

As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can
afford to.

Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email
program you're actually using?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws question

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which
isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in
an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what
I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know
what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even
when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I
type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings
within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If
there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I
have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site,
I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge,
and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to
fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any
help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: nesting levels on web pages

 

If you think about the classic format for an outline, where Roman Numerals are used for primary divisions, numbers to differentiate sections under primary divisions, lowercase letters to differentiate sub-sections under sections, and lowercase Roman numerals to designate sub-sub-sections, the concept is very much the same.  Each of those is a nesting level.

But, as Mr. Turner's reference notes, you can nest things of the same type within each other.   You could consider an outline as a sort of list with additional lists nested within it, and the way those lists are differentiated from each other show the nesting level.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Repeat that, please?

Mario
 

Mark, press insert+tab. if this is not what's needed, hopefully someone will post the answer.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mark [mailto:mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 6:43 AM
Subject: Repeat that, please?
Are there commands to have JAWS repeat what the tutor and message voice
said? Or just to repeat what it said about the content type, content
state or content attributes?


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

 

Hello Madison,

As I said in my previous email, you have to go into Edge settings and disable some of the options regarding the automatic saving of passwords, predictive filling of search fields and so on.
I just tried in both the Edge address bar and in the search field on Google.com and I had no issues with Jaws 2021 letting me navigate whatever I had typed or what was in the address field by word or character and backspacing would read each character I was deleting.
You will most likely soon get the Windows 10 20H2 update since it seems you are a year behind and skipped Windows 10 Version 2004 this spring and since Microsoft now discontinues support for older Windows 10 versions fairly quickly, it is definitely in your best interest to keep Windows 10 up to date and with these latest versions f Windows Jaws 2018 just won't cut it any more or at least it will result in more and more inssues.
I think the subscription option would be best for you since you can get a subscription without having to pay any catch-up fees, if you wanted to upgrade to Jaws 2021 you would have to find out exactly how much that would cost from Vispero, but I think you are basically looking at two SMA's, one for Jaws 2019 and 2020 and the second to give you the update to Jaws 2021 and this one would also then cover Jaws 2022 next year. However, if you start the subscription all you ever have to worry is paying your $90 a year, not sure if you can also pay monthly since I'm in Canada where the subscription based model is not yet offered.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

This is not an email issue, only a Edge issue. I just worry that even after upgrading that I'll still have these issues, can anyone tell me with certainty that upgrading will fix these issues? If no one can tell me then it's not worth spending a bunch of money to upgrade if there's the potencial that I'll still have the same problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: December 3, 2020 10:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

Madison,

I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade.

As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to.

Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws question

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

Madison Martin
 

This is not an email issue, only a Edge issue. I just worry that even after
upgrading that I'll still have these issues, can anyone tell me with certainty
that upgrading will fix these issues? If no one can tell me then it's not worth
spending a bunch of money to upgrade if there's the potencial that I'll still
have the same problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: December 3, 2020 10:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

Madison,

I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever
since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't
with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution
has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to
close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and
see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade.

As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can
afford to.

Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email
program you're actually using?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws question

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which
isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in
an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what
I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know
what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even
when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I
type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings
within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If
there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I
have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site,
I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge,
and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to
fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any
help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Edge and Jaws question

 

And if you are in the United States d don't forget that for I think $90 a year, $7.50/month, you can subscribe to Jaws which will always give you access to the latest version.
Also, I think she was not talking about email but about the Edge browser.
You can disable Edge remembering stuff like that by going to Settings in Edge, Alt + F followed by S, make sure the "Profiles" category is selected which should be the default when you open Settings, then activate the various buttons like passwors, payment info, addresses and more and look through the options and turn off what you don't want Edge to remember.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question

Madison,

I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade.

As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to.

Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Edge and Jaws question

Hi all,
I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: nesting levels on web pages

Richard Turner
 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 6:54 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

nesting levels on web pages.


moderated nesting levels on web pages

Don H
 

Jaws announces nesting levels on web pages. What exactly is a nesting level?


moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mario
 

no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the foreground and gives it focus."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu
When you press, Insert  + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications
key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard
with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to
right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mike B.
 


When you press, Insert  + J, you open the Jaws context menu.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson






moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Richard Turner
 

I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that work with or without a screen Reader

There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson






moderated Re: Jaws context menu

Mike B.
 

You can press the applications key or Shift + F10.  The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar.  The keys are from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu

Hello list:

What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu?  Using Dell
desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson





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