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Re: Edge and Jaws question
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hello Madison,
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As I said in my previous email, you have to go into Edge settings and disable some of the options regarding the automatic saving of passwords, predictive filling of search fields and so on. I just tried in both the Edge address bar and in the search field on Google.com and I had no issues with Jaws 2021 letting me navigate whatever I had typed or what was in the address field by word or character and backspacing would read each character I was deleting. You will most likely soon get the Windows 10 20H2 update since it seems you are a year behind and skipped Windows 10 Version 2004 this spring and since Microsoft now discontinues support for older Windows 10 versions fairly quickly, it is definitely in your best interest to keep Windows 10 up to date and with these latest versions f Windows Jaws 2018 just won't cut it any more or at least it will result in more and more inssues. I think the subscription option would be best for you since you can get a subscription without having to pay any catch-up fees, if you wanted to upgrade to Jaws 2021 you would have to find out exactly how much that would cost from Vispero, but I think you are basically looking at two SMA's, one for Jaws 2019 and 2020 and the second to give you the update to Jaws 2021 and this one would also then cover Jaws 2022 next year. However, if you start the subscription all you ever have to worry is paying your $90 a year, not sure if you can also pay monthly since I'm in Canada where the subscription based model is not yet offered. Best regards, Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 7:23 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question This is not an email issue, only a Edge issue. I just worry that even after upgrading that I'll still have these issues, can anyone tell me with certainty that upgrading will fix these issues? If no one can tell me then it's not worth spending a bunch of money to upgrade if there's the potencial that I'll still have the same problems. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: December 3, 2020 10:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question Madison, I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade. As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to. Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Edge and Jaws question Hi all, I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison
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Re: Edge and Jaws question
Madison Martin
This is not an email issue, only a Edge issue. I just worry that even after
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upgrading that I'll still have these issues, can anyone tell me with certainty that upgrading will fix these issues? If no one can tell me then it's not worth spending a bunch of money to upgrade if there's the potencial that I'll still have the same problems.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: December 3, 2020 10:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question Madison, I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade. As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to. Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Edge and Jaws question Hi all, I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison
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Re: Edge and Jaws question
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
And if you are in the United States d don't forget that for I think $90 a year, $7.50/month, you can subscribe to Jaws which will always give you access to the latest version.
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Also, I think she was not talking about email but about the Edge browser. You can disable Edge remembering stuff like that by going to Settings in Edge, Alt + F followed by S, make sure the "Profiles" category is selected which should be the default when you open Settings, then activate the various buttons like passwors, payment info, addresses and more and look through the options and turn off what you don't want Edge to remember.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 8:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge and Jaws question Madison, I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade. As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to. Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Edge and Jaws question Hi all, I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison
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Re: nesting levels on web pages
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Nesting is the act of placing one web page element
of the same kind or like kind within another. Webpage elements
that can be nested are tables, divisions and lists.
Richard
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
On Dec 4, 2020, at 6:54 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
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nesting levels on web pages
Don H
Jaws announces nesting levels on web pages. What exactly is a nesting level?
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Re: Jaws context menu
Mario
no. keyboard help says that insert+j "Brings the JAWS Window into the foreground and gives it focus."
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From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, December 4, 2020, 9:26 AM Subject: Jaws context menu When you press, Insert + J, you open the Jaws context menu. Stay safe and take care. Mike. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM *Subject:* Re: Jaws context menu I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that work with or without a screen Reader There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. . Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote: You can press the applications key or Shift + F10. The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar. The keys are from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control key. Stay safe and take care. Mike. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* David Pearson <mailto:dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM *Subject:* Jaws context menu Hello list: What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release. Thank you, David S. Pearson
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Re: Jaws context menu
Mike B.
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When you press, Insert + J, you open the
Jaws context menu.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws context menu I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that
work with or without a screen Reader
There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows
context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
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Re: Jaws context menu
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I will say that these are the commands for the Windows context menu that work with or without a screen Reader
There is no actual "Jaws context menu" that I know of, just the Windows context menu. Also gotten to with a right click of a mouse. .
Richard
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
On Dec 4, 2020, at 5:46 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:
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Re: Jaws context menu
Mike B.
You can press the applications key or Shift +
F10. The applications key is the 3rd key to the right of the spacebar if
you have a keyboard with 4 keys to the right of the spacebar. The keys are
from left to right Alt, Windows, Applications key and the Control
key.
Stay safe and take care. Mike.
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From: David Pearson
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Jaws context menu What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release. Thank you, David S. Pearson
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Re: changing punctuation levels on the fly
CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
However, for me personally I can only get this new shortcut to work if I use the righthand shift key, but others don’t seem to have this problem.
Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: 04 December 2020 11:09 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: changing punctuation levels on the fly
In jaws 2021, the new keystroke added to do this is jaws key (insert) plus shift plus 2 from alphanumeric keyboard. Bear in mind that jaws key plus 2 alone, sets the typing echo level.
Leo “Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.” ― haruki murakami, On 12/3/2020 11:20 PM, tom x wrote:
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Repeat that, please?
Mark
Are there commands to have JAWS repeat what the tutor and message voice said? Or just to repeat what it said about the content type, content state or content attributes?
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Jaws context menu
David Pearson
Hello list:
What is the key sequence to open the Jaws "context" menu? Using Dell desktop pc, Windows7and latest Jaws release. Thank you, David S. Pearson
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Re: changing punctuation levels on the fly
Leo
In jaws 2021, the
new keystroke added to do this is jaws key (insert) plus shift
plus 2 from alphanumeric keyboard. Bear in mind that jaws key
plus 2 alone, sets the typing echo level.
Leo “Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.” ― haruki murakami, On 12/3/2020 11:20 PM, tom x wrote:
Hi,
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changing punctuation levels on the fly
tom x <ballistic719@...>
Hi,
My W10 desktop had to have a clean install and so am currently putting everything back but have forgotten some of the commands etc. This is why a couple of questions appear below. In Jaws 21, is there a command where the level of punctuation can be changed temporarily and then changed back when the task has been completed? Are the changes in the power settings still important for the latest Jaws? If so, can someone post a list of what to do? Thanks a lot Tom
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Re: Edge and Jaws question
Dani Pagador
@Don, where do I find the Enhanced Edit setting?
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@Madison, That's why I don't use Edge. The Edit fields seem to play nicely in Brave. I can use the arrow keys to read through what I've put in to an edit field and fix as I need to. I can also see what I type on my BrailleEdge, something that doesn't happen in Edge. More Later, Dani
On 12/3/20, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
I could be wrong but I had the same kind of issue with jaws and
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Re: Edge and Jaws question
Adrian Spratt
Madison,
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I wonder if this happens after you've been working with JAWS for a while. Ever since installing JAWS 2021, I've experienced problems like this, which I didn't with JAWS 2020. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten you're using 2018. My solution has been to safe the draft of the email, assuming I've started it, and then to close and reopen JAWS. Obviously, a workaround, but perhaps you could try and see if it does the job until you're able to upgrade. As you clearly realize, you'd be advised to upgrade your JAWS when you can afford to. Note that Edge isn't an email program; it's a browser. Can you tell which email program you're actually using?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Edge and Jaws question Hi all, I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison
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Re: A weird behavior with radio buttons in Edge with JAWS 2020 on a site.
Adrian Spratt
Where there’s a choice between using the return key and the spacebar, I go with the latter. It seems to have fewer potential consequences.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Kevin Minor
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: A weird behavior with radio buttons in Edge with JAWS 2020 on a site.
Hi.
I’ve never encountered what I’ll describe. I went to a site to take a test for a potential job. It was multiple choice, and you selected the answer from a set of four radio buttons. Usually, all I’d do was hit ENTER when I had focus on the radio button I wanted, and it’s selected. Not with this site. I’d hit ENTER, forms mode was active, then I’d have to arrow to another choice and back to make it stick. I’d like to know why I had to do so? I’m using JAWS 2020 and the latest Windows 10 20H2. I’m not sure about Edge, because I don’t know if it auto updates.
Thanks in advance for any ideas. It’s not a big deal, but I am curious.
Kevin Minor and Jilly
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A weird behavior with radio buttons in Edge with JAWS 2020 on a site.
Kevin Minor
Hi.
I’ve never encountered what I’ll describe. I went to a site to take a test for a potential job. It was multiple choice, and you selected the answer from a set of four radio buttons. Usually, all I’d do was hit ENTER when I had focus on the radio button I wanted, and it’s selected. Not with this site. I’d hit ENTER, forms mode was active, then I’d have to arrow to another choice and back to make it stick. I’d like to know why I had to do so? I’m using JAWS 2020 and the latest Windows 10 20H2. I’m not sure about Edge, because I don’t know if it auto updates.
Thanks in advance for any ideas. It’s not a big deal, but I am curious.
Kevin Minor and Jilly
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Re: Edge and Jaws question
Don H
I could be wrong but I had the same kind of issue with jaws and thunderbird. Fixed the problem by making sure enhanced edit was enabled in jaws.
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On 12/3/2020 8:24 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi all,
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Re: Edge and Jaws question
Milton Ota
Sorry to say, it sounds like you need to update your windows 10 and JAWS as
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you probably have incompatibility issues. Without the updates you may have to live with the problem.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 8:24 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Edge and Jaws question Hi all, I don't know if there's any way to fix these issues (other then upgrading which isn't happening right now), but I really hope there is. Anyway, when I type in an edit field (or whatever they called) in Edge I can't go back and read what I've written and if I erase a character Jaws just says blank so I don't know what I've erased. Also after I've input my email in a site it saves it, and even when I try and type a new email it just fills in the box with my email so when I type a new email address it sticks my email in there. So, are there any settings within either Edge or Jaws that I can change to fix any of these problems? If there's a setting that can be changed so that Edge never saves my email and I have to type in my email address everytime I log in or do anything on any site, I don't care, it's a small price to pay. I'm using Jaws 2018, the latest Edge, and Windows 10 version 1909. I really hope that there's something I can do to fix these issues, as they're driving me crazy. Look forward to any help/suggestions anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison
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