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moderated Re: Including keystrokes in Speech History?

Cohn, Jonathan
 

On Dec 2, 2020, at 10:04 PM, Mark <mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca> wrote:

Does anyone know a way to have speech history include keystrokes that were pressed and not just what JAWS said? This would be a helpful way of recording a walk through of content.
In settings center there is a button called something like keycaps that I remember being discussed by Jonathan on FSCast as a way to prevent “tab” from being spoken every time it was typed (including alt-tab). So I expect you could reverse this process to have tab and arrow keys pressed.
Probably would be worthwhile setting this up in a demo user account, because I am sure you don’t want to hear all that usually.
Jonathan


moderated Re: Looking for text with Bold or Italics

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Hello,
Generally in word, the control-pageUp and control-pageDown keys will do this if you have a search enabled. When first getting into a document these keystrokes will move by physical page, but once a search is done they move to the prior or next search match.
HTH!!
Jonathan


moderated Re: Underscoring Letters and Words

Richard Turner
 

Select the text you want with shift+whichever key selects the amount you want and press control+u.

That will only underline the selection.

Or, press control+u type what you want underlined, and then press control+u again to turn off underlining.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 6:28 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Underscoring Letters and Words

 

Hi All,

 

In Word 2010 how do I underscore a single letter, word or line?  Running Jaws 16 thru J2021, Windows 7 and 10.  Thanks much.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


moderated Re: Openbook 9.0

Richard Turner
 

It doesn’t.

You have to go to the Freedom Scientific downloads page for Openbook to find it.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 6:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook 9.0

 

I also have OpenBook 9.0, but when I check for updates, it says I’m already using the latest update. Maybe, the auto-updater doesn’t catch the latest version?



On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:36 AM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:



Hi All I have this Openbook 9.0 version  since 2010 ,Is there a new verson of Openbook version ? If so ,where can I get it from?

Addison


moderated Underscoring Letters and Words

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
In Word 2010 how do I underscore a single letter, word or line?  Running Jaws 16 thru J2021, Windows 7 and 10.  Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


moderated Re: Looking for text with Bold or Italics

Mike B.
 

Or, change your speech and sounds scheme.  Insert, alt + S, will bring up a list of schemes.  Up or down arrow to a scheme and press enter to change.  Note:  make a note of which scheme you're running when you open the list so you can revert back to it when you're done.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for text with Bold or Italics

Check out the skim reading tool.  I think it will do it.
At 11:12 PM 12/2/2020, you wrote:
>hi all,
>
>
>a friend of mine is having a hard time trying to look through text
>with bold, italics and a specific colour.
>
>She's using Office 2013 and JAWS 2020.
>
>I thought that using CONTROL+f, going to advanced, and selecting
>"format, character" then the desired attributes would work, but for
>some reason it only works if she invokes the dialogue over and over.
>At that point, JAWS won't report the next occurrence with the
>selected formatting. Is there a way to jump from attributed text to
>attributed text without having to constantly go to the dialogue and
>select next each time?
>
>Also, it would be helpful if JAWS reported the next occurrence. I
>thought that pressing F3 might do the trick, but for some reason it
>does not work.
>
>If we use the attributes scheme, that does not help much, since she
>does not need to read the whole text.
>
>It's for a proofreading job in Braille, where the text is present as
>a hardcopy and needs to be compared against the digital version. The
>original book has some highlighting that needs to match once the
>Braille version has been proofread.
>
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Nermin
>
>
>
>
>






moderated Re: Openbook 9.0

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I also have OpenBook 9.0, but when I check for updates, it says I’m already using the latest update. Maybe, the auto-updater doesn’t catch the latest version?


On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:36 AM, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:



Hi All I have this Openbook 9.0 version  since 2010 ,Is there a new verson of Openbook version ? If so ,where can I get it from?

Addison


moderated Re: Looking for text with Bold or Italics

Ann Byrne
 

Check out the skim reading tool. I think it will do it.

At 11:12 PM 12/2/2020, you wrote:
hi all,


a friend of mine is having a hard time trying to look through text with bold, italics and a specific colour.

She's using Office 2013 and JAWS 2020.

I thought that using CONTROL+f, going to advanced, and selecting "format, character" then the desired attributes would work, but for some reason it only works if she invokes the dialogue over and over. At that point, JAWS won't report the next occurrence with the selected formatting. Is there a way to jump from attributed text to attributed text without having to constantly go to the dialogue and select next each time?

Also, it would be helpful if JAWS reported the next occurrence. I thought that pressing F3 might do the trick, but for some reason it does not work.

If we use the attributes scheme, that does not help much, since she does not need to read the whole text.

It's for a proofreading job in Braille, where the text is present as a hardcopy and needs to be compared against the digital version. The original book has some highlighting that needs to match once the Braille version has been proofread.


Any help would be appreciated.


Regards,

Nermin





moderated Looking for text with Bold or Italics

Nermin
 

hi all,


a friend of mine is having a hard time trying to look through text with bold, italics and a specific colour.

She's using Office 2013 and JAWS 2020.

I thought that using CONTROL+f, going to advanced, and selecting "format, character" then the desired attributes would work, but for some reason it only works if she invokes the dialogue over and over. At that point, JAWS won't report the next occurrence with the selected formatting. Is there a way to jump from attributed text to attributed text without having to constantly go to the dialogue and select next each time?

Also, it would be helpful if JAWS reported the next occurrence. I thought that pressing F3 might do the trick, but for some reason it does not work.

If we use the attributes scheme, that does not help much, since she does not need to read the whole text.

It's for a proofreading job in Braille, where the text is present as a hardcopy and needs to be compared against the digital version. The original book has some highlighting that needs to match once the Braille version has been proofread.


Any help would be appreciated.


Regards,

Nermin


moderated Re: Including keystrokes in Speech History?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Mark. There is no way currently to have key strokes included in Speech History. If there were, it could present a privacy concern. I think the only way you are going to have a log of keystrokes pressed is to install a key logger, which will present privacy concerns of its own.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 7:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Including keystrokes in Speech History?

 

Does anyone know a way to have speech history include keystrokes that were pressed and not just what JAWS said? This would be a helpful way of recording a walk through of content.


moderated Including keystrokes in Speech History?

Mark
 

Does anyone know a way to have speech history include keystrokes that were pressed and not just what JAWS said? This would be a helpful way of recording a walk through of content.


moderated Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

Glenn / Lenny
 


Has anyone tried the Touch cursor?
Shift + PC cursor, tapping the PC cursor twice returns it back to a regular cursor.
I have found that unusable screens can usually be managed with the touch cursor.
The touch cursor is not for computers with a touch screen.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

The problem seems specific to the Preference pane and I found exactly the problem described.

My suggestion is to use Narrator for this screen only.

David G.

 

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From: Charles Krugman
Sent: 02 December 2020 23:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

I have been using it and have never had a problem. I use the arrow keys to move around the screen and it reads everything and is selectable. I’m not sure about the screen that you are talking about.

Chuck

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

 

Heya folks,

 

Can anyone help me with the best way to get round Tapin radio’s prefernces screen with Jaws? It just reads constantly many options at once and has been like this for ages.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

 

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moderated Re: n v d a discussion list

 

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 07:17 PM, David Diamond wrote:
How many posts does one get on the list mentioned below? 
-
You have quoted material that mentions both the NVDA Help Group, and the main NVDA Group.

In any case, regardless of the Groups.io group, it is a simple matter to set up message preview if you want to see the first message in any topic, and then make a decision to either follow it, allowing more through, or to do nothing, and no other messages from that particular topic will land in your inbox:

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)

 
--

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moderated Re: n v d a discussion list

David Diamond
 

How many posts does one get on the list mentioned below?  Not a exact #, just a ball park figure.  I was on a NVDA list, and the posts 98% of the time were so petulant, I left it.  Petulant, meaning arguing over minor things and expecting software to be perfect.  How can it be when imperfect people design it. A circle is just a circle and no amount of wining will change that.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: December 2, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: n v d a discussion list

 

Another NVDA list

Subscribe: NVDAhelp+subscribe@groups.io

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: n v d a discussion list

 

You can get all you need at:

nvda@nvda.groups.io | Home

The subscription address and posting addrsses are all on that page.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: n v d a discussion list

 

Hi guys:

 

I apologize, but I have to ask this on this list;

 

If I recall,

There used to be a n v d a discussion paralleling this one;

Does anyone remember what the address for it is?

I have a n v d a question which I probably am not allowed to ask here;

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 


moderated Re: jaws 2021 and Zoom

David Diamond
 

Rebecca, I’ve not encountered the problem you mentioned.  I had 2020 and now have 2021 of JAWS, with no notification changes.  I have at least 2 zoom meetings per week and when someone joins or leaves, I’m told by JAWS.  At times I actually turn off JAWS as I don’t need to know all the time who joins and leaves.  Often their connection is weak so within a minute of leaving, they join again. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: December 2, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 2021 and Zoom

 

I don’t know if that is a function of the Zoom basic scripts but you might want to check to see if they are there.

I’ve not had need to use Zoom since Jaws 2021.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 7:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws 2021 and Zoom

 

Hi everyone.  For some reason when I installed Jaws 2021 my notifications in Zoom no longer read when someone comes online and so forth.  How can I fix this issue?  I have my setting to all speech when I’m on zoom and the notifications are checked.  Thanks.

 

Rebecca Ilniski and guide dog Marvin

Email: rilniski@...

Twitter: applegirl1994

 


moderated Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

David Griffith
 

The problem seems specific to the Preference pane and I found exactly the problem described.

My suggestion is to use Narrator for this screen only.

David G.

 

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From: Charles Krugman
Sent: 02 December 2020 23:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

I have been using it and have never had a problem. I use the arrow keys to move around the screen and it reads everything and is selectable. I’m not sure about the screen that you are talking about.

Chuck

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

 

Heya folks,

 

Can anyone help me with the best way to get round Tapin radio’s prefernces screen with Jaws? It just reads constantly many options at once and has been like this for ages.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

 

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moderated Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

David Griffith
 

I tried it and using Jaws 2021 I also can replicate your issue.

However as a workaround I found that unloading Jaws whilst on that screen and loading Narrator with control windows enter gave a much more pleasant experience.

David G.

 

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From: Jim L
Sent: 02 December 2020 20:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

Yes I did, below check out there reply😊

 

Hello,

 

I’m afraid that is Jaws only problem.

 

Not sure what can be done about it.

 

Sorry about that.

 

Regards

Philip Oldaker

Raimersoft

 

 

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From: Jim L
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 11:50 PM
To: support@...
Subject: Tapin Radio, Jaws screen reader & Preferences

 

Hello,

 

Am a registered user of your brilliant program Tapin Radio but for years now using latest Jaws screen reader and Tapin Radio’s preferences screen, Jaws reads constantly thru each individual option and its really hard for me to change preferences on that screen, has this issue been looked at, at  all? as I know from day dot you always made this program screen reader friendly.

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2020 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

Have you contacted them?

support@...

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Dec 1, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Jim L <jimscave@...> wrote:



 

Heya folks,

 

Can anyone help me with the best way to get round Tapin radio’s prefernces screen with Jaws? It just reads constantly many options at once and has been like this for ages.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

 


moderated Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

Jim L
 

 

Simple enough Charles, it’s the settings/preferences screen I am referring about, the main screen is super fine

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Krugman
Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2020 7:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

I have been using it and have never had a problem. I use the arrow keys to move around the screen and it reads everything and is selectable. I’m not sure about the screen that you are talking about.

Chuck

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

 

Heya folks,

 

Can anyone help me with the best way to get round Tapin radio’s prefernces screen with Jaws? It just reads constantly many options at once and has been like this for ages.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

 


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moderated Re: Tapin radio & Preferences

Charles Krugman
 

I have been using it and have never had a problem. I use the arrow keys to move around the screen and it reads everything and is selectable. I’m not sure about the screen that you are talking about.

Chuck

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tapin radio & Preferences

 

 

Heya folks,

 

Can anyone help me with the best way to get round Tapin radio’s prefernces screen with Jaws? It just reads constantly many options at once and has been like this for ages.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 




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moderated Re: JfW and Jarte Again

David Griffith
 

 

Yes that should work.

The only things to add I think it will come down as a zip from my dropbox which will have to  be extracted first.

Also I am not sure if it makes a difference here but I have avoided some install problems by using the application key and selecting run as administrator.

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 02 December 2020 10:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JfW and Jarte Again

 

As the compatibility pack is an executable file you can just press the enter key while you are pointing to the file in order to install it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 12/2/2020 5:11 AM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Thank you, David.

I have one more question for you. How do I install it from downloads?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JfW and Jarte Again

 

 

This is the one I use which seems to work with Jarte though I have not checked it is the latest.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dsmlacv59ark765/AADIQ655hImpM4FJ0kYMIEQBa?dl=1

 

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From: Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: 02 December 2020 09:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JfW and Jarte Again

 

Hi,

I’ve probably exhausted this thread, but how do you get the added office package?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 1:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JfW and Jarte Again

 

In view of the problem someone  experienced, as an experiment  I  went onto another machine without Jarte.

I too found the enable screenreader copied to clipboard instruction did not work.

However the following did.

  1. Install Jarte
  2. Close Jaws and start NVDA
  3. Start Jarte, Jarte will announce screen reader mode.
  4. Close NVDA and start Jaws. Restart Jarte and it sticks in screenreader mode for Jaws  also now.
  5. .Now finally  with Jarte in focus use Jaws F2 and find settings centre for Jarte and create the profile. Type edit in the search box and then tab down to uncheck enhanced edit mode.
  6. The only other thing I  think is to install the office Add in pack to improve Jarte compliance with Office Documents.

 

This all seems to work nicely to get a free Jaws accessible Word Processor for now.

 

David G.

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