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moderated Re: requestin money pay pal

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

Hi,

It took me a while to make it work, but I found that if I tabbed through to the edit fields, rather than arrowing down, I was not kicked out.

But I had to double check to make sure I was where I thought I should be.

I generally do not have any issues now using JAWS 2020 and 2021 in both edge and Chrome.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: requestin money pay pal

 

When trying to request money, I was not able to put the amount in on the page after I pulled up their e-mail.

 

It was as if the edit fields weren't labeled.

 

I was using jaws 2019 and I tried 2018.

 

Has anyone had that trouble, and is their a solution?

 

Justin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 and thunderbvird 78.5.0

Don H
 

Don't have fast startup enabled and did try to restart computer but it did not help.

On 11/27/2020 8:21 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Well, I'm running the same version here.  Try as I might, I cannot re-create your problem . If you haven't done so in a while, I'd suggest restarting your computer.  In windows, shutting down and turning the computer back on may not actually perform the function required, if you don't know whether "fast startup" is enabled, do a restart instead of a shutdown when you are having an issue.
CH
On 11/27/2020 19:38, Don H wrote:
When typing a new email using thunderbird and jaws I can not review what I have typed by using the arrow keys as I normally can with other screen readers.  When I try to review what I have typed Jaws just says space. How do you review what you have typed when using jaws with thunderbird?
Thanks






moderated Re: Jaws 2021 and thunderbvird 78.5.0

Chris Hill
 

Well, I'm running the same version here.  Try as I might, I cannot re-create your problem . If you haven't done so in a while, I'd suggest restarting your computer.  In windows, shutting down and turning the computer back on may not actually perform the function required, if you don't know whether "fast startup" is enabled, do a restart instead of a shutdown when you are having an issue.


CH

On 11/27/2020 19:38, Don H wrote:
When typing a new email using thunderbird and jaws I can not review what I have typed by using the arrow keys as I normally can with other screen readers.  When I try to review what I have typed Jaws just says space. How do you review what you have typed when using jaws with thunderbird?
Thanks





moderated Jaws 2021 and thunderbvird 78.5.0

Don H
 

When typing a new email using thunderbird and jaws I can not review what I have typed by using the arrow keys as I normally can with other screen readers. When I try to review what I have typed Jaws just says space. How do you review what you have typed when using jaws with thunderbird?
Thanks


moderated Re: virtual ribbon with word 2016

Jasmine Kotsay
 

Hi,
I think that's because it's letting you know that this setting is a popup window or something like that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 5:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: virtual ribbon with word 2016

I may be asking a lot of off the wall questions but I am just trying to learn how to use Jaws. When using Word 2016 I am trying to use the virtual ribbon and for the most part it is easy to use. However I am finding when you arrow down to some of the menu choices a lot of them are hard to understand because is saying something that sounds like "has popup" after each menu choice. Sighted help says that there are small graphics that follow each menu choice and that is what I assume Jaws is dealing with. I looked under the graphic settings and haven't found the setting that may stop this "has popup" from being spoken. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


moderated virtual ribbon with word 2016

Don H
 

I may be asking a lot of off the wall questions but I am just trying to learn how to use Jaws. When using Word 2016 I am trying to use the virtual ribbon and for the most part it is easy to use. However I am finding when you arrow down to some of the menu choices a lot of them are hard to understand because is saying something that sounds like "has popup" after each menu choice. Sighted help says that there are small graphics that follow each menu choice and that is what I assume Jaws is dealing with. I looked under the graphic settings and haven't found the setting that may stop this "has popup" from being spoken. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


moderated Re: Setting for Jarte

Mario
 

I don't have a view menu, so I don't know if it is possible or necessary.
hopefully someone else knows how.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jasmine Kotsay [mailto:jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 4:41 PM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
Now, I have another question.
How do I get to the view menu so I can make sure the correct view (e.g., print view) is checked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

it should be not checked.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jasmine Kotsay [mailto:jasmine.kotsay@gmail.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, November 27, 2020, 4:23 PM
Subject: Setting for Jarte
Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *David Goldfield
*Sent:* Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Setting for Jarte

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks for this but this was not the setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in
screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though
I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit
mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

David G.

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*Sent: *27 November 2020 13:18
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Setting for Jarte

Hi. From this page:

<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jarte.com%2Fhelp_new%2Fscreen_reader_mode.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7d77211e05c7439f686208d892febac4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420970031192866%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qWBJfuZE93P6a7wdOd1m8ND3GbJ8xEB5bJLovBzTvOk%3D&reserved=0>

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can
force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase
"enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting
Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

*Note to JAWS users: *Jarte is currently unable to recognize the
presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you
will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to
force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
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On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make
Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who
helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of
course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten
the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021
compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

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moderated Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

JM Casey
 

Good good.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: November 27, 2020 08:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Well went and reinstalled the program an seems to have fixed whatever the issues were for me smile.

So good to go.

Thanks.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: November 27, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Yes, 8.6 something.

What do you mean by “it doesn’t work”? Where does the trouble lie, for you?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: November 27, 2020 07:39 PM
To: Jaws windows <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Wondered do any of you use skype with jaws 2021 or other jaws versions and if so which version of skype has to be used as have installed the latest think was 8.6x or something like that and even with the scripts from Doug Lee doesn’t work.

Thanks.

Don

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

Don Risavy, Jr.
 

Well went and reinstalled the program an seems to have fixed whatever the issues were for me smile.

So good to go.

Thanks.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: November 27, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Yes, 8.6 something.

What do you mean by “it doesn’t work”? Where does the trouble lie, for you?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: November 27, 2020 07:39 PM
To: Jaws windows <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Wondered do any of you use skype with jaws 2021 or other jaws versions and if so which version of skype has to be used as have installed the latest think was 8.6x or something like that and even with the scripts from Doug Lee doesn’t work.

Thanks.

Don

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

Don Risavy, Jr.
 

Well am unable to navigate around in the program like before as all that pops up is the menus like f for file, e for edit and v for view etc. And nothing else works.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: November 27, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Yes, 8.6 something.

What do you mean by “it doesn’t work”? Where does the trouble lie, for you?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: November 27, 2020 07:39 PM
To: Jaws windows <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Wondered do any of you use skype with jaws 2021 or other jaws versions and if so which version of skype has to be used as have installed the latest think was 8.6x or something like that and even with the scripts from Doug Lee doesn’t work.

Thanks.

Don

 

 

 


moderated requestin money pay pal

Justin Williams
 

When trying to request money, I was not able to put the amount in on the page after I pulled up their e-mail.

 

It was as if the edit fields weren't labeled.

 

I was using jaws 2019 and I tried 2018.

 

Has anyone had that trouble, and is their a solution?

 

Justin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

JM Casey
 

The scripts aren’t needed or anything, they just help a bit. Actually I’m sure the JAWS 2021 ones are better and may supercede Doug lee’s entirely, but I have an older JAWS version so am no doubt missing out on Freedom Scientific’s bells ‘n’ whistles.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: November 27, 2020 07:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Yes, 8.6 something.

What do you mean by “it doesn’t work”? Where does the trouble lie, for you?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: November 27, 2020 07:39 PM
To: Jaws windows <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Wondered do any of you use skype with jaws 2021 or other jaws versions and if so which version of skype has to be used as have installed the latest think was 8.6x or something like that and even with the scripts from Doug Lee doesn’t work.

Thanks.

Don

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 with skype

JM Casey
 

Yes, 8.6 something.

What do you mean by “it doesn’t work”? Where does the trouble lie, for you?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: November 27, 2020 07:39 PM
To: Jaws windows <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2021 with skype

 

Wondered do any of you use skype with jaws 2021 or other jaws versions and if so which version of skype has to be used as have installed the latest think was 8.6x or something like that and even with the scripts from Doug Lee doesn’t work.

Thanks.

Don

 

 

 


moderated Jaws 2021 with skype

Don Risavy, Jr.
 

Wondered do any of you use skype with jaws 2021 or other jaws versions and if so which version of skype has to be used as have installed the latest think was 8.6x or something like that and even with the scripts from Doug Lee doesn’t work.

Thanks.

Don

 

 

 


moderated Re: need help with loading narrator on a new computer

Jason White
 

You should be able to use Narrator all the way up to the point at which you can start Microsoft Edge and download JAWS.

On 11/27/20 10:46 AM, Shai wrote:
Hello,
Narrator is a pre-loaded screen reader.
In my experience, all that is needed when turning on the device is to
wait for a few seconds at least 2 or so and press control Windows
enter or windows enter
Narrator will come on and guide through the set up process.

On 11/27/20, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hello All-


Thanks MUCH for the help...I plan on getting started in setting it up
today.



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moderated Re: Volume level heard on Windows10 lock screen JAWS2021

Jason White
 

On 11/27/20 12:25 PM, Shai wrote:
When I lift the lid of my computer, JAWS announces the volume level
twice and then presents me with the lock screen to log in.
Is there a means by which to disable this volume alert announcement?
I don't think so. This was supposed to have been resolved during the JAWS beta period, according to the release notes, but apparently wasn't.


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Leo
 

well, that's why I call a good screen reader, more than one single way to do the same although it may represent, to some degree,   a unique way to help some users to skim  a text quickly but with full meaningful sentences. You may forget this, but not only native English speaking users  require a screen reader, and for EFL and ESL students, this feature represents a valuable tool. Of course, as a native Spanish speaker, I do what you guys do when I go through a text, in Spanish but, try it on a language different than yours and we talk later!


Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 4:10 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

David,

 

To add to your idea, you can press control-down arrow instead of p. It saves you from having to go in and out of JAWS quick settings.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Hi all,

 

Actually, I have never used the JAWS skim read because it reads either the first full sentence of every paragraph or first full line. I want to read just enough of a paragraph to get a sense of it and then move on. That does not always require reading a full sentence or line. Just the first four or five words might be enough. And if speed is the objective, and it is with skim reading, I don’t need to hear any more than what I need to hear. So you can do this in a couple of very quick and easy ways. First, hold down Control and keep it held down. Then press down arrow just enough to hear what you want to hear at the beginning of a paragraph, then hit down arrow again, and so on.

 

Or you can put JAWS in Quick keys mode with Insert Z and then just press P to jump to the next paragraph, P again and so on. Much more efficient than JAWS skim read.

 

David


moderated Re: Openbook 9.0

Richard Turner
 

I was on the Openbook beta team, and since too many years ago to count, nothing has been said about Openbook even to the beta team.
It would be nice to get a definitive statement from Vispero about this, but I guess so long as they can still sell a $1000 OCR package to people, they will even though the only functionality I can find in it that isn't in other either mobile phone apps or the Jaws OCR is the ability to scan facing pages of a book and have them split into two pages automatically.




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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook 9.0

I believe you might be correct. Other than a 2018 window dressing with a few languages added they seem to have abandoned the product. I find that
even mobile scanning on my phone has about as good OCR. I look for the
OCR component to become a full function of JAWS.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 12:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook 9.0

FS has not updated Open book for many years and since OCR is built in to Jaws I don't think Open Book will ever be updated.
On 11/27/2020 11:36 AM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:
Hi All I have this Openbook 9.0 version  since 2010 ,Is there a new
verson of Openbook version ? If so ,where can I get it from?

Addison


moderated Re: Setting for Jarte

David Griffith
 

 

Try quitting Jaws and running NVDA if you have it.  This should force Jarte into Screenreader mode. I hope that this sticks for the next time you use Jarte with Jaws.

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Korinne Bougher
Sent: 27 November 2020 21:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hello,

I am unable to enable screen reader mode in Jarte by copying it to the clipboard. Is there another way to enable it?

 

Thank you,

Korinne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Just to clarify, does enhance edit mode have to be on or off. I did the same thing, but didn’t get the same results.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Ah, yes, I see the problem. From the Setting Center type "edit" and toggle the setting for enhanced edit mode. That should definitely fix the problem.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 1:03 PM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Thanks for this but this was not the  setting change I was looking for.

Jaws 2021 will not interact with the text even with Jarte in screenreader mode. So I cannot for example navigate by word, though I can with Jaws 2020 and NVDA.

From memory it might be something to do with turning advance edit mode off or something like that in the Jaws settings.

I will go and have a look.

 

David G.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: 27 November 2020 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting for Jarte

 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Adrian Spratt
 

David,

 

To add to your idea, you can press control-down arrow instead of p. It saves you from having to go in and out of JAWS quick settings.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Hi all,

 

Actually, I have never used the JAWS skim read because it reads either the first full sentence of every paragraph or first full line. I want to read just enough of a paragraph to get a sense of it and then move on. That does not always require reading a full sentence or line. Just the first four or five words might be enough. And if speed is the objective, and it is with skim reading, I don’t need to hear any more than what I need to hear. So you can do this in a couple of very quick and easy ways. First, hold down Control and keep it held down. Then press down arrow just enough to hear what you want to hear at the beginning of a paragraph, then hit down arrow again, and so on.

 

Or you can put JAWS in Quick keys mode with Insert Z and then just press P to jump to the next paragraph, P again and so on. Much more efficient than JAWS skim read.

 

David

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