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moderated need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

G. Gray
 

Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


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moderated Re: creating desktop shortcu

 

Adding Desktop Shortcuts Under Windows 10
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moderated Re: Mesage For Jim Weiss

 

Mr. Weiss gave you his e-mail address yesterday:  Jimweiss72@...

Please, take this private.

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moderated Mesage For Jim Weiss

Robbie Curtis
 

Hey Guys,


I know this might be unusual, but I don't know if my messages are getting to Jim Weiss' inbox. So Jim this is for you:


VmWare and Windows Question
Hi Jim and thanks for responding so quickly. Hope things are going well with you.

I have noticed that when I log into Windows through VmWare that the fan runs high and the cpu usage goes up. I searched through VmWare's blog and support
pages and found out that it has something to do with the graphics manager and I need to place a couple of lines in the .vmx file.

The instructions say to right-click on the vmware library and choose content package and then find the .vmx file. As you know there is no keyboard shortcut
to right-click using Mac.

Do you know of any alternative way to get to this file?

Again, thanks for responding and I look forward to hearing from you.


moderated Re: creating desktop shortcu

Michael Walker
 

On Nov 26, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Gery Gaubert <gerygaubert@...> wrote:



I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated creating desktop shortcu

Gery Gaubert
 

I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

Tony
 

I’ve had the opposite experience with browsers.  I used to use FF but it was getting very slow on most pages.  I was advised to switch to Chrome which worked for s few months until some site changes were made.  It would only load some pages on a main site on Windows 7 and none on Windows 10.

 

I ended up using Chrome for part of the site and FF for the rest on the older Windows 7 machine.  Fortunately, the site was changed again and now workds in Chrome and Windows 10.

 

Both Chrome and FF seem to gobble memory if allowed to sit idle for a while.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and firefox

 

Jim,
This is a known issue for both Vispero as well as Mozilla. Mozilla is definitely aware of these problems and I was able to assist them in filing one of the issue reports regarding these crashes. Some users are experiencing no problems when using JAWS and Firefox and I would love to know what's different with their machines. For me, I also experience noticeable performance issues during page loads. This is just one more reason why I stopped using Firefox and switched to a Chromium-based browser.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/25/2020 8:05 PM, Jim L wrote:

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

 


moderated What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Mark
 

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

ann
 

The only thing wrong with it that I can see is that the battery is just about out of juice. It gets about 5 or 6 hours when not plugged in, but if I keep it mostly plugged in, it works fine. It even connected to my iPhone running iOS 14 which is where i sometimes used it. Only using it now while I'm waiting for my Orbit to get here tomorrow.

~Ann

On 11/26/2020 6:42 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I'm glad that worked. I had one of those at work when it was the new thing; I'm amazed that it still works.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks Richard.

I downloaded and installed the USB driver. Apparently, it works if you don't plug it in to a USB3 port, which I guess I accidentally did. Even the bluetooth problems are solved now.

~Ann



On 11/26/2020 10:01 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
It may not work, but the documentation and necessary drivers can be gotten from the following site.If you jump by headings there is one on installing the drivers.
here is the link.https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftech.aph.org%2Frbd_info.htm&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cababc0ed472e42ed578708d8926364f4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420302874769571%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=BZX%2BtetChuRRdARWhAD%2F95lfOksF5EfQM0B1HVwNIJg%3D&amp;reserved=0
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:29 AM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann








moderated Re: Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

Richard Turner
 

I'm glad that worked. I had one of those at work when it was the new thing; I'm amazed that it still works.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks Richard.

I downloaded and installed the USB driver. Apparently, it works if you don't plug it in to a USB3 port, which I guess I accidentally did. Even the bluetooth problems are solved now.

~Ann



On 11/26/2020 10:01 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
It may not work, but the documentation and necessary drivers can be gotten from the following site.If you jump by headings there is one on installing the drivers.
here is the link.https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftech.aph.org%2Frbd_info.htm&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cababc0ed472e42ed578708d8926364f4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420302874769571%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=BZX%2BtetChuRRdARWhAD%2F95lfOksF5EfQM0B1HVwNIJg%3D&amp;reserved=0
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:29 AM, ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann











moderated Re: Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

ann
 

Hi,

Thanks Richard.

I downloaded and installed the USB driver. Apparently, it works if you don't plug it in to a USB3 port, which I guess I accidentally did. Even the bluetooth problems are solved now.

~Ann

On 11/26/2020 10:01 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
It may not work, but the documentation and necessary drivers can be gotten from the following site.If you jump by headings there is one on installing the drivers.
here is the link.https://tech.aph.org/rbd_info.htm
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:29 AM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann





moderated Re: Jaws lagging, slow down CPU

Jim L
 

Using Elliquence



Regards,

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws lagging, slow down CPU

Not having the problem you are, but I have noticed some delay after logon
screen. A bit of sluggishness though I find if I use eloquence instead of
the other synthesizers it does much better. What synthesizer are you using?


moderated Re: Zoom keyboard commands

Bob Kennedy
 


I don't remember how current this is, but hereis what Zoom puts out.

Meeting
PageUp: View previous 25 video stream in gallery view
PageDown: View next 25 video stream in gallery view
Alt: Turn on/off the option Always show meeting controls in General settings
Alt+F1: Switch to active speaker view in video meeting
Alt+F2: Switch to gallery video view in video meeting
Alt+F4: Close the current window
Alt+V: Start/stop video
Alt+A: Mute/unmute audio
Alt+M: Mute/unmute audio for everyone except host
Note: For the meeting host only
Alt+S: Launch share screen window and stop screen share
Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus
Alt+Shift+S: Start/stop new screen share
Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus
Alt+T: Pause or resume screen share
Note: Will only work when meeting control toolbar has focus
Alt+R: Start/stop local recording
Alt+C: Start/stop cloud recording
Alt+P: Pause or resume recording
Alt+N: Switch camera
Alt+F: Enter or exit full screen
Alt+H: Display/hide in-meeting chat panel
Alt+U:Display/hide participants panel
Alt+I: Open invite window
Alt+Y: Raise/lower hand
Alt+Shift+R: Gain remote control
Alt+Shift+G: Stop remote control
Ctrl+2: Read active speaker name
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H: Show/hide floating meeting controls
Chat
Alt+Shift+T: Screenshot
Switch to Portrait/Landscape View: Alt+L
Ctrl+W: Close current chat session
Ctrl+Up: Go to previous chat
Ctrl+Down: Go to next chat
Ctrl+T: Jump to chat with someone
Ctrl+F: Search
Ctrl+Tab: Move to the next tab (right)
Ctrl+Shift+Tab: Move to the previous tab (left)
Phone
Ctrl+Shift+P: Call highlighted phone number.
Ctrl+Shift+A: Accept inbound call.
Ctrl+Shift+E: End current call.
Ctrl+Shift+D: Decline inbound call.
Ctrl+Shift+M: Mute/unmute mic.
Ctrl+Shift+H: Hold/unhold call.

On Thursday, November 26, 2020, 02:54:20 PM EST, Marianne Denning <marianne@...> wrote:


Jonathan Mosen also has a free audio tutorial on using a screen reader.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Raeleen Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Any way of your printing page 7 and sending it through to me? I can only print out a whole document which is a bit of a nuisance particularly when I am just out of paper.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2020 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

I found this by logging into Zoom on the web and searching for keyboard commands:

Hot keys and keyboard shortcuts – Zoom Help Center

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Lough
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Where can I find a list of Zoom keyboard commands?

 

 

Ray Lough

Attorney-at-Law

306 E 13th Street, Suite 2

Vinton, IA 52349

319-472-3812

 


moderated Re: Windows 10, Firewall, Incoming rule, setup

 

For information on inbound:  Checklist: Creating Inbound Firewall Rules

And on that page specifically, you're probably going to be interested in either, Create an Inbound Program or Service Rule, or, Create an Inbound Port Rule

On the page for Inbound Port Rule this note is made:

On the Rule Type page of the New Inbound Rule Wizard, click Custom, and then click Next.

Note: Although you can create rules by selecting Program or Port, those choices limit the number of pages presented by the wizard. If you select Custom, you see all of the pages, and have the most flexibility in creating your rules.

They eventually get to where you enter the port or protocol later in the step by step instructions.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Windows 10, Firewall, Incoming rule, setup

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Can someone please outline for me where, in the Windows 10 firewall, incoming rule setup, is the field where the port number is chosen?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 


moderated Re: Zoom keyboard commands

Marianne Denning
 

Jonathan Mosen also has a free audio tutorial on using a screen reader.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Raeleen Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Any way of your printing page 7 and sending it through to me? I can only print out a whole document which is a bit of a nuisance particularly when I am just out of paper.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2020 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

I found this by logging into Zoom on the web and searching for keyboard commands:

Hot keys and keyboard shortcuts – Zoom Help Center

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Lough
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Where can I find a list of Zoom keyboard commands?

 

 

Ray Lough

Attorney-at-Law

306 E 13th Street, Suite 2

Vinton, IA 52349

319-472-3812

 


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

Jim Pursley
 

I find that Firefox 83 and JAWS 2021 work fine, though I'll experience an occasional crash.  I find FF faster than Edge, surprisingly, when loading pages.  I've also found that browsers and apps load faster using the desktop icons than using alt/control and a letter to open them. 


I have found that FF works best on some sites while Edge Chrome works better on others.  In particular, page material is occasionally presented differently in the two browsers.  All the more reason to have at least two browsers.

On 11/26/2020 2:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

It was crashing a bit a couple of Firefox versions back, but for me, it seems prettys table now. It still loads pages slower and is generally less “snappy” than chrome, but Chrome tends to crash if I leave the window for a good amount of time and then return to it – Chrome is comletely unresponsive. This seems *fairly8 consistent actually. Firefox is just a bit off a slow browser it seems, but it’s pretty dependable for me on my Windows 10 machine running JAWS 2018 and NVDA 2020.2. There are definite advantages to using both though. I’m certainly using Chrome more than I used to.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: November 25, 2020 08:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and firefox

 

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

JM Casey
 

It was crashing a bit a couple of Firefox versions back, but for me, it seems prettys table now. It still loads pages slower and is generally less “snappy” than chrome, but Chrome tends to crash if I leave the window for a good amount of time and then return to it – Chrome is comletely unresponsive. This seems *fairly8 consistent actually. Firefox is just a bit off a slow browser it seems, but it’s pretty dependable for me on my Windows 10 machine running JAWS 2018 and NVDA 2020.2. There are definite advantages to using both though. I’m certainly using Chrome more than I used to.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: November 25, 2020 08:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and firefox

 

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated uia again, an apology

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi all again,

I just wanted to rectify things with regard to uia. A few days ago and after upgrading to jaws2021, I stated that with uia, the control-down arrow would not show selected text on my braille display. Actually, the culprit is not uia, but pan of text paragraph, which I had turned on. I reactivated uia having disabled pan of text paragraph, and selection of text behaved as normal.

                                                            Just in case it may be helpful,

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis


moderated Re: Jaws lagging, slow down CPU

Dan Longmore
 

Not having the problem you are, but I have noticed some delay after logon screen. A bit of sluggishness though I find if I use eloquence instead of the other synthesizers it does much better. What synthesizer are you using?

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