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moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

Jim Pursley
 

I find that Firefox 83 and JAWS 2021 work fine, though I'll experience an occasional crash.  I find FF faster than Edge, surprisingly, when loading pages.  I've also found that browsers and apps load faster using the desktop icons than using alt/control and a letter to open them. 


I have found that FF works best on some sites while Edge Chrome works better on others.  In particular, page material is occasionally presented differently in the two browsers.  All the more reason to have at least two browsers.

On 11/26/2020 2:09 PM, JM Casey wrote:

It was crashing a bit a couple of Firefox versions back, but for me, it seems prettys table now. It still loads pages slower and is generally less “snappy” than chrome, but Chrome tends to crash if I leave the window for a good amount of time and then return to it – Chrome is comletely unresponsive. This seems *fairly8 consistent actually. Firefox is just a bit off a slow browser it seems, but it’s pretty dependable for me on my Windows 10 machine running JAWS 2018 and NVDA 2020.2. There are definite advantages to using both though. I’m certainly using Chrome more than I used to.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: November 25, 2020 08:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and firefox

 

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

JM Casey
 

It was crashing a bit a couple of Firefox versions back, but for me, it seems prettys table now. It still loads pages slower and is generally less “snappy” than chrome, but Chrome tends to crash if I leave the window for a good amount of time and then return to it – Chrome is comletely unresponsive. This seems *fairly8 consistent actually. Firefox is just a bit off a slow browser it seems, but it’s pretty dependable for me on my Windows 10 machine running JAWS 2018 and NVDA 2020.2. There are definite advantages to using both though. I’m certainly using Chrome more than I used to.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: November 25, 2020 08:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and firefox

 

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated uia again, an apology

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi all again,

I just wanted to rectify things with regard to uia. A few days ago and after upgrading to jaws2021, I stated that with uia, the control-down arrow would not show selected text on my braille display. Actually, the culprit is not uia, but pan of text paragraph, which I had turned on. I reactivated uia having disabled pan of text paragraph, and selection of text behaved as normal.

                                                            Just in case it may be helpful,

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis


moderated Re: Jaws lagging, slow down CPU

Dan Longmore
 

Not having the problem you are, but I have noticed some delay after logon screen. A bit of sluggishness though I find if I use eloquence instead of the other synthesizers it does much better. What synthesizer are you using?


moderated Re: Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

Richard Turner
 

It may not work, but the documentation and necessary drivers can be gotten from the following site.If you jump by headings there is one on installing the drivers. 
here is the link.https://tech.aph.org/rbd_info.htm





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:29 AM, ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann






moderated Re: Outlook Profile list

Ken Chernack
 

Good morning.

I have also had the same experience usually when I do not allow enough time to hear the full Jaws/profile message.

I am only talking about 2-4 seconds, but it seems to matter.

HTH,

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Profile list

 

Heya folks,

 

Have found since Windows 10, Outlook 2019 and latest 2020 Jaws when I click on my Outlook and my profile dialog box pops up to choose the email address I want to go to, Jaws sometimes speaks when I stroll up and down the list other times its quiet, anyone else having this issue?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

ann
 

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann


moderated Re: Jaws and the bubble screen saver

Lee Anne Atkinson
 

Hypervigilant Jim,

 

I am running the latest version of Windows and JAWS 21.  I have been using the bubble screen saver for years and not had any problems.  Have you tried a different screen saver? 

 

Best,

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and the bubble screen saver

 

Heya folks,

 

In Windows 7 I was noticing the bubble screen saver crashing ocassionally and thought it was my 7 having issues but its funny have now Windows 10 installed on a new hardrive and same computer and bubble screen saver is still playing up, I noticed it works well with NVDA so it seems the latest couple of Jaws 2020 updates is the cause, anyone else having an issue with bubble?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated Jaws and the bubble screen saver

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

 

In Windows 7 I was noticing the bubble screen saver crashing ocassionally and thought it was my 7 having issues but its funny have now Windows 10 installed on a new hardrive and same computer and bubble screen saver is still playing up, I noticed it works well with NVDA so it seems the latest couple of Jaws 2020 updates is the cause, anyone else having an issue with bubble?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated enable audio in windows server

Marvin Hunkin
 

Hi. Wondering. Has any one come across a script, where I can independently turn the audio services on, enpoints and audio inside a hyper v  with audio. Without having to get sighted help when I create servers.

Any ideas.

Or point to where some one has done this.

Have tried googling.

But not found an answer.

Thanks.machine

 

 


moderated Re: Zoom keyboard commands

Raeleen Smith
 

Any way of your printing page 7 and sending it through to me? I can only print out a whole document which is a bit of a nuisance particularly when I am just out of paper.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2020 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

I found this by logging into Zoom on the web and searching for keyboard commands:

Hot keys and keyboard shortcuts – Zoom Help Center

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Lough
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Where can I find a list of Zoom keyboard commands?

 

 

Ray Lough

Attorney-at-Law

306 E 13th Street, Suite 2

Vinton, IA 52349

319-472-3812

 


moderated Re: Zoom keyboard commands

Adrian Spratt
 

Agreed. I just haven’t needed to, and so I’m perfectly happy to remain anonymous. I notice also that I could sign in with my Google info. So much for anonymity.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 7:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Why be afraid of that? You can get a free account from Zoom, and remain signed in.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Thank you, Bill. I was afraid of that!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Hi, Adrian. I must be signed in to see the setting button.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 12:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Bill and list,

 

I have a basic question. How do I get to settings in Zoom? Must I be signed in?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Hi, Ray. You can find Keyboard Shortcuts under settings. It will be second to last in the settings menu, right above Accessibility.

 

For your information, here is an extensive list of Zoom keyboard shortcuts.

 

 

Navigate Among Zoom Popup Windows

F6

 

Change Focus to Zoom Meeting Controls (On Top when Sharing Screen)

Ctrl+Alt+Shift

 

View the Previous Page of Video Participants in Gallery View

Page Up

 

View the Next Page of Video Participants in Gallery View

Page Down

 

Always Show Meeting Controls

Alt

 

Switch to Speaker View

Alt+F1

 

Switch to Gallery View

Alt+F2

 

Close Current Window

Alt+F4

 

Start/Stop Video

Alt+V

 

Mute/Unmute My Audio

Alt+A

 

Unmute Audio for Everyone Except Host (Host Only)

Alt+M

 

Start/Stop Screen Sharing

Alt+S

 

Show/Hide Windows and Applications Available to Share

Alt+Shift+S

 

Pause/Resume Screen Sharing

Alt+T

 

Start/Stop Local Recording

Alt+R

 

Start/Stop Cloud Recording

Alt+C

 

Pause/Resume Recording

Alt+P

 

Switch Camera

Alt+N

 

Enter/Exit Full Screen Mode

Alt+F

 

Show/Hide In-meeting Chat Panel

Alt+H

 

Show/Hide Participants Panel

Alt+U

 

Open the invite window

Alt+I

 

Raise/Lower Hand

Alt+Y

 

End Meeting

Alt+Q

 

Begin Remote Control

Alt+Shift+R

 

Revoke/Give up Remote Control

Alt+Shift+G

 

Read active speaker name

Ctrl+2,In Jaws, Ctrl+SHIFT+T

 

Show/Hide Floating Meeting Controls

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H

 

Increase chat display size

Ctrl++

 

Decrease chat display size

Ctrl+-

 

Screenshot

Alt+Shift+T

 

Switch to Portrait/Landscape View

Alt+L

 

Hide current chat session

Ctrl+W

 

Go to Previous Chat

Ctrl+Up

 

Go to Next Chat

Ctrl+Down

 

Jump to Chat with Someone

Ctrl+T

 

Search

Ctrl+F

 

Accept Call

Ctrl+Shift+A

 

End Call

Ctrl+Shift+E

 

Decline Call

Ctrl+Shift+D

 

Mute/Unmute Call

Ctrl+Shift+M

 

Hold/Unhold Call

Ctrl+Shift+H

 

 

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray Lough
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Zoom keyboard commands

 

Where can I find a list of Zoom keyboard commands?

 

 

Ray Lough

Attorney-at-Law

306 E 13th Street, Suite 2

Vinton, IA 52349

319-472-3812

 


moderated Re: Tutorials on Creating Accessible MS-Word Fillable Forms Plus Examples of Those Forms

Adrian Spratt
 

Justin,

 

You are a true diplomat. As you imply, making documents can be difficult for those of us with limited technological knowledge and aptitude. Ironically, one of my sighted friends had an accessibility problem using his preferred speech engine with my website’s PDF files. Sometimes you can’t win for trying!

 

We need to choose our battles with an understanding of whom we’re dealing with.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tutorials on Creating Accessible MS-Word Fillable Forms Plus Examples of Those Forms

 

I apologize, I am not understanding.

 

The person has never done this before.

 

Can you please explain again?

 

I'd like to be able ot make a pdf that is not accessible and fillable, accessible and fillable if possible.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tutorials on Creating Accessible MS-Word Fillable Forms Plus Examples of Those Forms

 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 06:49 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

I asked because I am getting a pdf packet sent to me that I'd like to be able to fill out and return it via e-mail.

-
I say the following not to be glib, but because it's a simple truism:  If the person/entity sending them has used fillable PDF forms, that are accessible and that also can be saved (because you can, believe it or not, make a fillable PDF where it cannot be saved once filled out) then you'll be able to do just that.  If they don't, then they need to be made aware of the issues this causes and told they need to address this, and not just for you.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Tutorials on Creating Accessible MS-Word Fillable Forms Plus Examples of Those Forms

Justin Williams
 

Okay,

 

Much appreaicted.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tutorials on Creating Accessible MS-Word Fillable Forms Plus Examples of Those Forms

 

Justin,

          I cannot explain, in any meaningful detail, something I've never done using an unknown piece of software.  The principles of creating fillable forms really don't change all that much, it's the mechanics in the editing software being used.  There are a very great many PDF editors out there, and it's impossible for anyone to get specific unless they know which one is being used, and actually have experience using that software to create fillable PDF forms.  Here's a WikiHow page on using a previous version of Adobe Acrobat to create fillable forms:  https://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Fillable-PDF 

          There are almost certain to be web resources for any given PDF Editor with regard to fillable forms with a search on "fillable form" coupled with the name of the software being used to create one.

Mike,

           See this page at Adobe in relation to your earlier commentary about having "scan and create form" software.  It appears that Adobe already has it, though it's not free:  https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/acrobat/how-to/create-fillable-pdf-forms-creator.html 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

Tom Behler
 

Jim:

 

I have had similar crashing issues with Firefox on this Windows 10 PC ever since Jaws 2020.

 

For this reason, I now use Firefox as my secondary browser, and Google Chrome as my primary browser.

 

Google Chrome seems to be much more stable, and crashes much less frequently.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and firefox

 

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated Re: Tutorials on Creating Accessible MS-Word Fillable Forms Plus Examples of Those Forms

 

Justin,

          I cannot explain, in any meaningful detail, something I've never done using an unknown piece of software.  The principles of creating fillable forms really don't change all that much, it's the mechanics in the editing software being used.  There are a very great many PDF editors out there, and it's impossible for anyone to get specific unless they know which one is being used, and actually have experience using that software to create fillable PDF forms.  Here's a WikiHow page on using a previous version of Adobe Acrobat to create fillable forms:  https://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Fillable-PDF 

          There are almost certain to be web resources for any given PDF Editor with regard to fillable forms with a search on "fillable form" coupled with the name of the software being used to create one.

Mike,

           See this page at Adobe in relation to your earlier commentary about having "scan and create form" software.  It appears that Adobe already has it, though it's not free:  https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/acrobat/how-to/create-fillable-pdf-forms-creator.html 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

Jim L
 

Thanks for letting me know your experience David.

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2020 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and firefox

 

Jim,
This is a known issue for both Vispero as well as Mozilla. Mozilla is definitely aware of these problems and I was able to assist them in filing one of the issue reports regarding these crashes. Some users are experiencing no problems when using JAWS and Firefox and I would love to know what's different with their machines. For me, I also experience noticeable performance issues during page loads. This is just one more reason why I stopped using Firefox and switched to a Chromium-based browser.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/25/2020 8:05 PM, Jim L wrote:

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Jim,
This is a known issue for both Vispero as well as Mozilla. Mozilla is definitely aware of these problems and I was able to assist them in filing one of the issue reports regarding these crashes. Some users are experiencing no problems when using JAWS and Firefox and I would love to know what's different with their machines. For me, I also experience noticeable performance issues during page loads. This is just one more reason why I stopped using Firefox and switched to a Chromium-based browser.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/25/2020 8:05 PM, Jim L wrote:

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 



moderated Jaws lagging, slow down CPU

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

 

Since using my Windows 10 and latest Jaws 2020 have noticed Jaws lagging, slow down CPU, even my computer guy who has help me with my setup is amazed when he turns off Jaws how quick my PC is all of a sudden, any settings anyone knows that I can change to make Jaws and my PC quicker?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 


moderated Outlook Profile list

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

 

Have found since Windows 10, Outlook 2019 and latest 2020 Jaws when I click on my Outlook and my profile dialog box pops up to choose the email address I want to go to, Jaws sometimes speaks when I stroll up and down the list other times its quiet, anyone else having this issue?

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

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