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Uninstalling Windows Live Mail

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

As you already may know, I have decided to scrap Windows Live Mail in favor of Outlook 2010 as my e-mail management program on my Windows 7 laptop. I'm fortunate, in that I have been able to get Outlook 2010 from the University free of charge.

Anyway, since I'm no longer going to be using Windows Live Mail, I thought it would be wise to un-install it from this computer. However, when I go to add-remove programs, I cannot find Windows Live Mail on the list of programs that can be removed.

Am I missing a step here?

Thanks!

Tom Behler


windows live mail

joe stinton
 

hi all

something strange as happened with windows live mail and jaws!!!
for some reason in my in box instead of saying that a mail is un read it and not saying a mail is read which is the way its been for a long time its now saying that a mail is read but not unread don't think i have changed any thing and although this isn't really important I find it a bit annoying.
so can any one tell me how to change this back.

cheers Joe
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Re: Enterprise software

brad
 

NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LIST. I WAS BEGINNING TO THINK I GOT SOME SORT OF
E-MAIL VIRUS SPAM OR SOMETHING

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Enterprise software

Please find out and publish how many blind employees any of these companies
have, and what their general responsibilities are.

Do you understand the business practices of these companies? Do you
understand the massive resources at their disposal to create severe
anti-competitive conditions in the market? Abetted by customer management?

Do you understand why there is a movement called "Access built in" that some
leaders of disability advocacy feel is the ONLY way to get "real"
accessibility in such products?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:52:06 -0700
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Dave Mitchell"
<mitch@orbitelcom.com>)
Subject: Re: Enterprise software
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Dude, Please take it off list or show us how to do it with your own
company or both. Thank you.
...


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Re: Enterprise software

epierce@...
 

Please find out and publish how many blind employees any of these companies have, and what their general responsibilities are.

Do you understand the business practices of these companies? Do you understand the massive resources at their disposal to create severe anti-competitive conditions in the market? Abetted by customer management?

Do you understand why there is a movement called "Access built in" that some leaders of disability advocacy feel is the ONLY way to get "real" accessibility in such products?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:52:06 -0700
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>)
Subject: Re: Enterprise software
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Dude, Please take it off list or show us how to do it with your own company
or both. Thank you.
...


Re: Enterprise software

Dave Mitchell
 

Dude, Please take it off list or show us how to do it with your own company or both. Thank you.

----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: Enterprise software


This is not about rhetoric, it is about the real world, and how predatory corporatists have taken over, and gained so much power that they are able to get employers to viciously attack workers who complain about the various cr*ppy aspects of enterprise software, and how its use destroys human decency in an organization.

To the predatory, psychopathic corporatist, accessibility is not something that deserves any real attention, they will pay a lot more money to make sure that their products are "compliant" for legal purposes than they pay to have them re-engineered so that actual average disabled people can use them (not test bots).

Style over substance.

Legal compliance vs. actual usability.

In the corporate ethos in which these products exist, caring about actual human beings (disabled or not) is only given lip service. What really matters is ego gratification, power and greed.

If you can provide significant proof that any of the enterprise products under discussion have improved their accessibility in a meaningful way in the last 5 years, I will donate $150 to any blind advocacy organization of your choice.

Thanks

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:06:00 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>)
Subject: RE: Enterprise software
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Hi, ipierce. I wouldn't have responded to your previous message if I lacked
the experience to counter it. I hesitated to continue this off-topic thread,
but I didn't want your post to discourage users of adaptive software from
asserting their needs. If you are an advocate of workers' rights, I wish you
well. Just try not to make the kind of assumption you did here and get too
caught up in your rhetoric.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Enterprise software

Given that employees (who are acting in good faith) have little or no real
legal protection from being attacked by enterprise software vendors with
political connections that have deeply evil motivations, it isn't apparent
to me why you would refer to the harsh realities involved in surviving in
the current, typically toxic workplace as "passivity".

I take it that you have no actual experience with worker representation, or
how accessibility is actually taken up in highly dysfunctional
organizational cultures.

The balance of power is usually overwhelmingly weighted against an employee
that dares to complain. Period.

Nothing will change until the existing, flawed architectures of the cash
cows products of large enterprise software vendors are redone from the
ground up with "accessibility built in". Until that paradigm shift takes
place (probably about the same time as world peace is established), the
vendors will viciously guard their profit centers and make sure that the
management (including the accessibility bureaucracy) of their customers
"buys in" to maintaining the status quo.

I hope you can "connect the dots" here. Again, the employee typically has
almost no power, and the employer and vendor have almost all the power.

A situation has evolved where customer management typically has a vested
interest in maintaining power by viciously suppressing any significant
internal criticism of problems with enterprise software.

I would be overwhelmed with happiness if you could cite cases to the
contrary of legal or administrative settlements that involve enterprise
software accessibility.

To give you some idea of the appalling climate for workers in many
organizations, please see the article at the following link:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/96/open_boss.html

"Is Your Boss a Psychopath?
Odds are you've run across one of these characters in your career. They're
glib, charming, manipulative, deceitful, ruthless -- and very, very
destructive. And there may be lots of them in America's corner offices."
BY Alan Deutschman
12-19-2007


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Re: Enterprise software

epierce@...
 

This is not about rhetoric, it is about the real world, and how predatory corporatists have taken over, and gained so much power that they are able to get employers to viciously attack workers who complain about the various cr*ppy aspects of enterprise software, and how its use destroys human decency in an organization.

To the predatory, psychopathic corporatist, accessibility is not something that deserves any real attention, they will pay a lot more money to make sure that their products are "compliant" for legal purposes than they pay to have them re-engineered so that actual average disabled people can use them (not test bots).

Style over substance.

Legal compliance vs. actual usability.

In the corporate ethos in which these products exist, caring about actual human beings (disabled or not) is only given lip service. What really matters is ego gratification, power and greed.

If you can provide significant proof that any of the enterprise products under discussion have improved their accessibility in a meaningful way in the last 5 years, I will donate $150 to any blind advocacy organization of your choice.

Thanks

---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:06:00 -0400
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>)
Subject: RE: Enterprise software
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Hi, ipierce. I wouldn't have responded to your previous message if I lacked
the experience to counter it. I hesitated to continue this off-topic thread,
but I didn't want your post to discourage users of adaptive software from
asserting their needs. If you are an advocate of workers' rights, I wish you
well. Just try not to make the kind of assumption you did here and get too
caught up in your rhetoric.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Enterprise software

Given that employees (who are acting in good faith) have little or no real
legal protection from being attacked by enterprise software vendors with
political connections that have deeply evil motivations, it isn't apparent
to me why you would refer to the harsh realities involved in surviving in
the current, typically toxic workplace as "passivity".

I take it that you have no actual experience with worker representation, or
how accessibility is actually taken up in highly dysfunctional
organizational cultures.

The balance of power is usually overwhelmingly weighted against an employee
that dares to complain. Period.

Nothing will change until the existing, flawed architectures of the cash
cows products of large enterprise software vendors are redone from the
ground up with "accessibility built in". Until that paradigm shift takes
place (probably about the same time as world peace is established), the
vendors will viciously guard their profit centers and make sure that the
management (including the accessibility bureaucracy) of their customers
"buys in" to maintaining the status quo.

I hope you can "connect the dots" here. Again, the employee typically has
almost no power, and the employer and vendor have almost all the power.

A situation has evolved where customer management typically has a vested
interest in maintaining power by viciously suppressing any significant
internal criticism of problems with enterprise software.

I would be overwhelmed with happiness if you could cite cases to the
contrary of legal or administrative settlements that involve enterprise
software accessibility.

To give you some idea of the appalling climate for workers in many
organizations, please see the article at the following link:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/96/open_boss.html

"Is Your Boss a Psychopath?
Odds are you've run across one of these characters in your career. They're
glib, charming, manipulative, deceitful, ruthless -- and very, very
destructive. And there may be lots of them in America's corner offices."
BY Alan Deutschman
12-19-2007


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Re: Enterprise software

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, ipierce. I wouldn't have responded to your previous message if I lacked
the experience to counter it. I hesitated to continue this off-topic thread,
but I didn't want your post to discourage users of adaptive software from
asserting their needs. If you are an advocate of workers' rights, I wish you
well. Just try not to make the kind of assumption you did here and get too
caught up in your rhetoric.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Enterprise software

Given that employees (who are acting in good faith) have little or no real
legal protection from being attacked by enterprise software vendors with
political connections that have deeply evil motivations, it isn't apparent
to me why you would refer to the harsh realities involved in surviving in
the current, typically toxic workplace as "passivity".

I take it that you have no actual experience with worker representation, or
how accessibility is actually taken up in highly dysfunctional
organizational cultures.

The balance of power is usually overwhelmingly weighted against an employee
that dares to complain. Period.

Nothing will change until the existing, flawed architectures of the cash
cows products of large enterprise software vendors are redone from the
ground up with "accessibility built in". Until that paradigm shift takes
place (probably about the same time as world peace is established), the
vendors will viciously guard their profit centers and make sure that the
management (including the accessibility bureaucracy) of their customers
"buys in" to maintaining the status quo.

I hope you can "connect the dots" here. Again, the employee typically has
almost no power, and the employer and vendor have almost all the power.

A situation has evolved where customer management typically has a vested
interest in maintaining power by viciously suppressing any significant
internal criticism of problems with enterprise software.

I would be overwhelmed with happiness if you could cite cases to the
contrary of legal or administrative settlements that involve enterprise
software accessibility.

To give you some idea of the appalling climate for workers in many
organizations, please see the article at the following link:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/96/open_boss.html

"Is Your Boss a Psychopath?
Odds are you've run across one of these characters in your career. They're
glib, charming, manipulative, deceitful, ruthless -- and very, very
destructive. And there may be lots of them in America's corner offices."
BY Alan Deutschman
12-19-2007


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Re: How to import existing Outlook Express AddressBookinto Outlook2010

Tom Behler
 

Dave:

Yup, I tossed the old .wab file, and think I was successful with a .csv file.

Or at least, it looks like my address book has now been successfully transferred.

Thanks!

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Relaxing Today" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express AddressBookinto Outlook2010


Tom,

No. Start the export from scratch on your contacts in Outlook Express. Toss
your old WAB file.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 18:44
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express AddressBookinto
Outlook2010


Will a .wab file work if I try this?

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Bookinto
Outlook2010


you want to go to file, inport / export and choose export and v card and
choose aplace to save the export

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 17:44
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010

How do I do that?

My version of Outlook Express where I am getting my address book from
is
from Windows XP and Office 2003.

The only file format I seem able to save to is the old .wab file.

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010


you need to save the export as v card files for 2010

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 16:35
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook 2010

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a
Windows 7
laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail
account, but
have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the
new
Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto
a
thumb
drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook
2010
contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to
recognize
my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web
site,
but I
can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be
appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan



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Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Bookinto Outlook2010

Tom Behler
 

George:

For whatever reason, I couldn't get that to work here. It wanted only to save individual entries in that format.

However, I was able to save the entire address book as a comma-delimited separated (CSV) file, and I think that worked.

Or at least, it looks like it did at this point.

I'm going to call it a day here, but will re-visit the issue tomorrow.

Tom Behler

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Bookinto Outlook2010


you want to go to file, inport / export and choose export and v card and
choose aplace to save the export

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 17:44
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010

How do I do that?

My version of Outlook Express where I am getting my address book from
is
from Windows XP and Office 2003.

The only file format I seem able to save to is the old .wab file.

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010


you need to save the export as v card files for 2010

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 16:35
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook 2010

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a
Windows 7
laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail
account, but
have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the
new
Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto
a
thumb
drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook
2010
contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to
recognize
my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web
site,
but I
can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be
appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan



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Re: How to import existing Outlook Express AddressBookinto Outlook2010

Dave...
 

Tom,

No. Start the export from scratch on your contacts in Outlook Express. Toss
your old WAB file.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 18:44
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express AddressBookinto
Outlook2010


Will a .wab file work if I try this?

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Bookinto
Outlook2010


you want to go to file, inport / export and choose export and v card and
choose aplace to save the export

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 17:44
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010

How do I do that?

My version of Outlook Express where I am getting my address book from
is
from Windows XP and Office 2003.

The only file format I seem able to save to is the old .wab file.

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010


you need to save the export as v card files for 2010

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 16:35
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook 2010

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a
Windows 7
laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail
account, but
have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the
new
Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto
a
thumb
drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook
2010
contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to
recognize
my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web
site,
but I
can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be
appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan



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Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Bookinto Outlook2010

Tom Behler
 

Will a .wab file work if I try this?

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Bookinto Outlook2010


you want to go to file, inport / export and choose export and v card and
choose aplace to save the export

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 17:44
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010

How do I do that?

My version of Outlook Express where I am getting my address book from
is
from Windows XP and Office 2003.

The only file format I seem able to save to is the old .wab file.

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010


you need to save the export as v card files for 2010

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 16:35
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook 2010

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a
Windows 7
laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail
account, but
have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the
new
Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto
a
thumb
drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook
2010
contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to
recognize
my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web
site,
but I
can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be
appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan



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Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into Outlook2010

George B
 

you want to go to file, inport / export and choose export and v card and
choose aplace to save the export

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 17:44
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010

How do I do that?

My version of Outlook Express where I am getting my address book from
is
from Windows XP and Office 2003.

The only file format I seem able to save to is the old .wab file.

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook2010


you need to save the export as v card files for 2010

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 16:35
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook 2010

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a
Windows 7
laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail
account, but
have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the
new
Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto
a
thumb
drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook
2010
contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to
recognize
my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web
site,
but I
can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be
appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan



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Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into Outlook2010

Tom Behler
 

How do I do that?

My version of Outlook Express where I am getting my address book from is from Windows XP and Office 2003.

The only file format I seem able to save to is the old .wab file.

Tom from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into Outlook2010


you need to save the export as v card files for 2010

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 16:35
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook 2010

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a
Windows 7
laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail
account, but
have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the new
Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto a
thumb
drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook
2010
contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to
recognize
my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web site,
but I
can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be
appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan



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Re: Enterprise software

epierce@...
 

Given that employees (who are acting in good faith) have little or no real legal protection from being attacked by enterprise software vendors with political connections that have deeply evil motivations, it isn't apparent to me why you would refer to the harsh realities involved in surviving in the current, typically toxic workplace as "passivity".

I take it that you have no actual experience with worker representation, or how accessibility is actually taken up in highly dysfunctional organizational cultures.

The balance of power is usually overwhelmingly weighted against an employee that dares to complain. Period.

Nothing will change until the existing, flawed architectures of the cash cows products of large enterprise software vendors are redone from the ground up with "accessibility built in". Until that paradigm shift takes place (probably about the same time as world peace is established), the vendors will viciously guard their profit centers and make sure that the management (including the accessibility bureaucracy) of their customers "buys in" to maintaining the status quo.

I hope you can "connect the dots" here. Again, the employee typically has almost no power, and the employer and vendor have almost all the power.

A situation has evolved where customer management typically has a vested interest in maintaining power by viciously suppressing any significant internal criticism of problems with enterprise software.

I would be overwhelmed with happiness if you could cite cases to the contrary of legal or administrative settlements that involve enterprise software accessibility.

To give you some idea of the appalling climate for workers in many organizations, please see the article at the following link:

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/96/open_boss.html

"Is Your Boss a Psychopath?
Odds are you've run across one of these characters in your career. They're glib, charming, manipulative, deceitful, ruthless -- and very, very destructive. And there may be lots of them in America's corner offices."
BY Alan Deutschman
12-19-2007


Re: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into Outlook 2010

George B
 

you need to save the export as v card files for 2010

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 16:35
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into
Outlook 2010

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a
Windows 7
laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail
account, but
have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the new
Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto a
thumb
drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook
2010
contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to
recognize
my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web site,
but I
can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be
appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan



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How to import existing Outlook Express Address Book into Outlook 2010

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

I have decided to try Outlook 2010 as my main e-mail client on a Windows 7 laptop.

I have successfully interfaced Microsoft Outlook with my g-mail account, but have run into an interesting problem.

I can't seem to import my old Outlook Express address book into the new Outlook program.

I have saved my old Outlook Express address book as a .wab file onto a thumb drive, but can't seem to get it to be imported into the new Outlook 2010 contacts.


I can get to the import wizzard, but can't seem to get Outlook to recognize my older Outlook Express .wab address file.

Another list member sent me instructions from the Microsoft web site, but I can't get them to work.

Here's the link, in case anyone is interested or wants to see them:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291602



Any suggestions or a set of steps that is known to work would be appreciated.

I'm using Jaws 12 and Windows 7 here.


Tom from Michigan


Re: PeopleSoft and other applications with JAWS

dave grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon: The problem with the referenced link is the informnation
was written before 2009. Nothing is their information refers to a later
document here.
Your
friend Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: PeopleSoft and other applications with JAWS

Not sure what it really means, but this might provide some insight:

http://cms.calstate.edu/accessibility_training/cmsdevelopertraining.asp


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Re: Enterprise software

Adrian Spratt
 

You don't state your source for these statements, but you appear to quote
them to support your argument in another post for employee passivity. In my
experience, disabled employees who are too timid to assert their adaptive
needs suffer more harm than if they resign themselves to limits driven by
fear of job loss. Agreed, it is important to know what the limits of
accessibility may be in a particular area, which is perhaps what you're
suggesting, but you go too far. Nothing damages morale like passivity, and
nothing impairs the respect an employee can earn than inability to work
productively with the employer's software.

Note that a company as big as Oracle, which produces not only its eponymous
database but also PeopleSoft, should be held accountable for their
accessibility, just as Microsoft has been. This may be something for the
ACB, NFB, the Justice Department and other organizations to take up.
Meanwhile, employees who are harmed by their limited accessibility should
ensure their supervisors know, and accommodations can be demanded.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of epierce@surewest.net
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:52 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Fwd: Enterprise software

fyi

---- Original message ----
...

Have you asked your union to investigate compliance issues?

Typically, union representatives can help you with not only workplace
specific contract violations, but can also assist an employee whose working
conditions are bad where those conditions are violating organizational
policies, or state or federal labor laws, workplace health and safety, ADA,
and so forth.

In some cases, large, expensive enterprise software packages that have not
historically been designed to be accessible are made minimally accessible
primarily for purposes of legal compliance (to minimize the company's
exposure to litigation) in newer versions. However, there may not be very
many visually impaired people that are actually able to use such products in
a productive or effective manner directly via the standard interface.
...


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Enterprise software

epierce@...
 

fyi

---- Original message ----
...

Have you asked your union to investigate compliance issues?

Typically, union representatives can help you with not only workplace specific contract violations, but can also assist an employee whose working conditions are bad where those conditions are violating organizational policies, or state or federal labor laws, workplace health and safety, ADA, and so forth.

In some cases, large, expensive enterprise software packages that have not historically been designed to be accessible are made minimally accessible primarily for purposes of legal compliance (to minimize the company's exposure to litigation) in newer versions. However, there may not be very many visually impaired people that are actually able to use such products in a productive or effective manner directly via the standard interface.
...


Re: e-mailing of the list

epierce@...
 

brad,

when using my ISP's webmail, when I click either "reply" or "reply all", the email address in the "To:" field of that reply is always:

"The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

However, the message body contains something like the following, which always contains the email address of the person that is being responded to. That person's email address can always be cut/pasted into the "To:" field, replacing the list address.

Hope that helps!

If not, please let me know what needs to be clarified.

---- Original message ----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "brad" <daredevilbk@gmail.com>)