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moderated Re: switching to running programs

T. Civitello
 

Using Windows 7 and Brave or IE browser.  Tom
 

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: switching to running programs
 
Tom,

1.  What is your version and build of Windows 10?

2.  Are you using the new Chromium-based Microsoft Edge browser in the mix of programs?

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: having trouble with links

Shirley Tracy
 

Thanks Richard. It might be a problem with my computer. It’s starting to hang a lot as well. I’m stuck with this one for a while—so I’ll live with it.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having trouble with links

 

I’ve not had any issues.

How are you getting to the links?

On web sites, it is more reliable to tab or use the next link command.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: having trouble with links

 

Hi Group:

 

Since I installed the JAWS 2021 version, I have started having trouble opening links. At first I noticed it with Windows Mail, but now it happens on websites. Do any of you have the same issues? Is this something connected with the latest update? Or is it my computer? It’s getting frustrating.

 

I’m using a desktop with Windows 10 and the latest JAWS.

 

Can anyone help?

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: switching to running programs

 

Tom,

1.  What is your version and build of Windows 10?

2.  Are you using the new Chromium-based Microsoft Edge browser in the mix of programs?

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: switching to running programs

T. Civitello
 

I have done some experimenting myself and I think this is a Jaws 2021 problem as it doesn’t occur when I have 2019 or 2020 running.  Tom
 

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: switching to running programs
 

Tom,

I have this happen to me on rare occasions.  I have pretty much determined it occurs when my real memory gets a bit short.  If I re-boot it goes away.  Like I said, this is really rare for me, but if it occurred more often I probably would change my memory settings. In my case, I believe it occurs because of the way I set my real / virtual memory.

When it happens I use the Win key + tab to find the pgm I want.

  • Hth ---

roups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 12:06 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: switching to running programs

 

I have a slight problem. If I have more than 2 programs running and I try to switch to the 3rd or 4th program with alt, tab I can only switch to the first 2  programs that are  running. Using insert F10 I can see all 4 running programs and switch to the one I want to use. Makes it difficult when I am paying bills and have running the bank, Jaws and my bills paid document. Every time I switch to see what and how much the net  bill is I have tuse insert F10 to switch to the bills paid document. Never was this way till Jaws 2021. How do I get back to where I can alt tab to all the open programs.  Thanks Tom


moderated Re: Basic Windows 10 Question

 

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:22 AM, Mark Arnold ABG wrote:
How do I see the list of drives on a Windows 10 operating system?
-
What used to be Computer/My Computer has been "This PC" in File Explorer since the advent of Windows 8.  If you expand "This PC" in the folder tree view in File Explorer (formerly Windows Explorer) you'll see the list you're expecting to see.  The details regarding the exact type of drive are, of course, over in the file list area.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Basic Windows 10 Question

Tom Behler
 

Mark:

 

I have an icon for “this PC” on my computer, and once there, I arrow down to my list of drives which is at the bottom of the listview.  Once there, I right arrow to the drive I want to access.

 

I have instructions here somewhere for putting the “this PC” icon on the desktop if you want them.  They are not self evident from the start.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Basic Windows 10 Question

 

List,

 

How do I see the list of drives on a Windows 10 operating system?  In Windows 7, I opened up “Computer” and found the list of drives i.e. removable drives etc.  Thanks in advance-

Mark

 


moderated Re: Basic Windows 10 Question

Richard Turner
 

Try windowsKey+e for Explorer.

First letter navigation works here, so if you have drives that are named, you can jump to them with the first letter.

Otherwise, arrow down until you find the drive you want.

On my system, if I press o, I land on the C drive.  It is labeled OSC by default for me.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Basic Windows 10 Question

 

List,

 

How do I see the list of drives on a Windows 10 operating system?  In Windows 7, I opened up “Computer” and found the list of drives i.e. removable drives etc.  Thanks in advance-

Mark

 


moderated Basic Windows 10 Question

Mark Arnold ABG
 

List,

 

How do I see the list of drives on a Windows 10 operating system?  In Windows 7, I opened up “Computer” and found the list of drives i.e. removable drives etc.  Thanks in advance-

Mark

 


moderated Re: magic and jaws reading a certain website

Stan Holdeman
 

Mouse echo worked perfectly. What a relief! Thanks a lot, Bill.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: magic and jaws reading a certain website

 

Hi, Stan. The JAWS feature for which you are searching is Mouse Echo. This is accomplished in the following way,

 

1. Press JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by the letter E.

 

Then perform one of the following commands.

 

The following commands are available in the Mouse Echo layer.
Toggle mouse echo On/Off = O.
Set mouse echo to character = C.
Set mouse echo to word = W.
Set mouse echo to line = L.
Set mouse echo to paragraph = P.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: magic and jaws reading a certain website

 

Richard: I should of focused my question better.

 

With J2020 and Magic running, as I pulled the mouse pointer over the text in a story panel, Jaws read the contents of that story panel. What enabled Jaws to read that text? There must be a way to enable Jaws to read the text with or without Magic.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: magic and jaws reading a certain website

 

I do not have an answer about the newspaper panels, but it sounds like Vispero has reached the point of requiring folks to use Fusion which is Jaws plus ZoomText, rather than continuing Magic support. Of course, you will have to ask Vispero to be sure.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Nov 19, 2020, at 6:41 AM, Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@...> wrote:



Good morning all: I was very surprised when I first tried to load Magic with jaws 2021. A voice said something like—Sorry, Magic is not compatible with J2021. You must use J2020 or before. Ouch!

 

So this my main problem. In the E edition of my local newspaper I could read the story panels only with Magic running and I would pull the mouse pointer to the story panel and jaws would read the contents of that story panel. I could read those story panels in no other way.

 

I feel certain there is a way to get Jaws to read these panels without Magic running. Any ideas?

 

Stan

 

 


moderated Re: having trouble with links

Richard Turner
 

I’ve not had any issues.

How are you getting to the links?

On web sites, it is more reliable to tab or use the next link command.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: having trouble with links

 

Hi Group:

 

Since I installed the JAWS 2021 version, I have started having trouble opening links. At first I noticed it with Windows Mail, but now it happens on websites. Do any of you have the same issues? Is this something connected with the latest update? Or is it my computer? It’s getting frustrating.

 

I’m using a desktop with Windows 10 and the latest JAWS.

 

Can anyone help?

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated having trouble with links

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Group:

 

Since I installed the JAWS 2021 version, I have started having trouble opening links. At first I noticed it with Windows Mail, but now it happens on websites. Do any of you have the same issues? Is this something connected with the latest update? Or is it my computer? It’s getting frustrating.

 

I’m using a desktop with Windows 10 and the latest JAWS.

 

Can anyone help?

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: switching to running programs

Sharon
 

I had the same problem with Jaws 2020 but not when I moved to Jaws 2021. For a work-around at the time, windows-tab followed by left and right arrow keys was how I functioned until Jaws 2021 was installed.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 1:06 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: switching to running programs

 

I have a slight problem. If I have more than 2 programs running and I try to switch to the 3rd or 4th program with alt, tab I can only switch to the first 2  programs that are  running. Using insert F10 I can see all 4 running programs and switch to the one I want to use. Makes it difficult when I am paying bills and have running the bank, Jaws and my bills paid document. Every time I switch to see what and how much the net  bill is I have tuse insert F10 to switch to the bills paid document. Never was this way till Jaws 2021. How do I get back to where I can alt tab to all the open programs.  Thanks Tom


moderated Re: How Can I Copy a Link inside Zoom Chat with JAWS?

David Kingsbury
 

Hello,

 

Try copying the virtual window text to your clipboard as follows:

1.      While in the meeting, press Alt H to get to Chat.

2.      Tab once to the list of Chats and press Insert Alt W to virtualize this window.

3.      Press Control A to select all the text and Control C to copy it.

4.      Open up a blank Word document and Press Control V to paste it in.

 

David


moderated Re: switching to running programs

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

Tom,

I have this happen to me on rare occasions.  I have pretty much determined it occurs when my real memory gets a bit short.  If I re-boot it goes away.  Like I said, this is really rare for me, but if it occurred more often I probably would change my memory settings. In my case, I believe it occurs because of the way I set my real / virtual memory.

When it happens I use the Win key + tab to find the pgm I want.

  • Hth ---

roups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 12:06 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: switching to running programs

 

I have a slight problem. If I have more than 2 programs running and I try to switch to the 3rd or 4th program with alt, tab I can only switch to the first 2  programs that are  running. Using insert F10 I can see all 4 running programs and switch to the one I want to use. Makes it difficult when I am paying bills and have running the bank, Jaws and my bills paid document. Every time I switch to see what and how much the net  bill is I have tuse insert F10 to switch to the bills paid document. Never was this way till Jaws 2021. How do I get back to where I can alt tab to all the open programs.  Thanks Tom


moderated Re: switching to running programs

NFB Lab 4
 

The other thing you can do is use the windows key tab. This will bring up the same list as alt tabbing, but you don’t have to hold anything down. After bringing it up, left or right arrow until you get to the program you want and press enter.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching to running programs

 

Hi, Tom. Have you tried exiting JAWS, running Narrator, and trying to ALT TAB between three or more programs? Does it work, or are you still restricted to switching between only the last two programs? If you are restricted using Narrator, it is a Windows problem, not a JAWS 2021 problem. If, indeed, JAWS is what is restricting your view of the programs with ALT TAB, I don't know what to tell you. I am using JAWS 2021, and I am not having this problem.

 

One thing you might try is to use the command,

 

JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by Z

 

to put you into Alternate User Directory mode. This will cause all JAWS configurations to become temporarily inactive until you perform the same command,

 

JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by Z

 

again. This will help you to determine if it is something in your JAWS user settings that is causing this restriction in switching between programs.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: switching to running programs

 

I have a slight problem. If I have more than 2 programs running and I try to switch to the 3rd or 4th program with alt, tab I can only switch to the first 2  programs that are  running. Using insert F10 I can see all 4 running programs and switch to the one I want to use. Makes it difficult when I am paying bills and have running the bank, Jaws and my bills paid document. Every time I switch to see what and how much the net  bill is I have tuse insert F10 to switch to the bills paid document. Never was this way till Jaws 2021. How do I get back to where I can alt tab to all the open programs.  Thanks Tom


moderated Re: switching to running programs

NFB Lab 4
 

Are you holding down the alt key while you press tab, or are you letting up each time?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 1:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching to running programs

 

Hi, Tom. Have you tried exiting JAWS, running Narrator, and trying to ALT TAB between three or more programs? Does it work, or are you still restricted to switching between only the last two programs? If you are restricted using Narrator, it is a Windows problem, not a JAWS 2021 problem. If, indeed, JAWS is what is restricting your view of the programs with ALT TAB, I don't know what to tell you. I am using JAWS 2021, and I am not having this problem.

 

One thing you might try is to use the command,

 

JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by Z

 

to put you into Alternate User Directory mode. This will cause all JAWS configurations to become temporarily inactive until you perform the same command,

 

JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by Z

 

again. This will help you to determine if it is something in your JAWS user settings that is causing this restriction in switching between programs.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: switching to running programs

 

I have a slight problem. If I have more than 2 programs running and I try to switch to the 3rd or 4th program with alt, tab I can only switch to the first 2  programs that are  running. Using insert F10 I can see all 4 running programs and switch to the one I want to use. Makes it difficult when I am paying bills and have running the bank, Jaws and my bills paid document. Every time I switch to see what and how much the net  bill is I have tuse insert F10 to switch to the bills paid document. Never was this way till Jaws 2021. How do I get back to where I can alt tab to all the open programs.  Thanks Tom


moderated Access to network licence via VPN

Jacob
 

Hi!


In the job we use network licences for JAWS and ZoomText. It works fine but if a client leave the building the licence is ofcourse lost. Does any one know if it's possible to get access to a licence if I install a VPN server on the PC that host the licence server? Then the clients can connect via VPN when they're out of range on our wifi to grab a licence. Also one more important question. If it's possible will it be legal then? The meaning is ofcourse only to give access to the licences for our own PC's.


OZ0TE Jacob


moderated Re: switching to running programs

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. Have you tried exiting JAWS, running Narrator, and trying to ALT TAB between three or more programs? Does it work, or are you still restricted to switching between only the last two programs? If you are restricted using Narrator, it is a Windows problem, not a JAWS 2021 problem. If, indeed, JAWS is what is restricting your view of the programs with ALT TAB, I don't know what to tell you. I am using JAWS 2021, and I am not having this problem.

 

One thing you might try is to use the command,

 

JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by Z

 

to put you into Alternate User Directory mode. This will cause all JAWS configurations to become temporarily inactive until you perform the same command,

 

JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by Z

 

again. This will help you to determine if it is something in your JAWS user settings that is causing this restriction in switching between programs.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: switching to running programs

 

I have a slight problem. If I have more than 2 programs running and I try to switch to the 3rd or 4th program with alt, tab I can only switch to the first 2  programs that are  running. Using insert F10 I can see all 4 running programs and switch to the one I want to use. Makes it difficult when I am paying bills and have running the bank, Jaws and my bills paid document. Every time I switch to see what and how much the net  bill is I have tuse insert F10 to switch to the bills paid document. Never was this way till Jaws 2021. How do I get back to where I can alt tab to all the open programs.  Thanks Tom


moderated switching to running programs

T. Civitello
 

I have a slight problem. If I have more than 2 programs running and I try to switch to the 3rd or 4th program with alt, tab I can only switch to the first 2  programs that are  running. Using insert F10 I can see all 4 running programs and switch to the one I want to use. Makes it difficult when I am paying bills and have running the bank, Jaws and my bills paid document. Every time I switch to see what and how much the net  bill is I have tuse insert F10 to switch to the bills paid document. Never was this way till Jaws 2021. How do I get back to where I can alt tab to all the open programs.  Thanks Tom


moderated Re: JAWS 2021

 

Simply a bit of reduction in verbage, most of us know which version of Jaws they have so I quite like it that all it says is "Jaws", if you don't know which version you have you can go to Jaws > About as was suggested.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gilbert Pries
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021

 

Yes, I've noticed this.

However, when you go to the about jaws, it says home edition.

Pastor Gilbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:42 PM
To: JAWS <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS 2021

 

Hi,

Has anyone noticed with JAWS 2021, when you boot your computer, or you unload and reload JAWS, it says the word JAWS.

JAWS 2020 says JAWS home edition.

If you alt tab to the JAWS window, then it will say JAWS home edition.

 

Andrew

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