OK I have a web page that has a table I am trying to read. It says in the Jaws documentation that control alt numpad 5 is supposed to read the table info. I find it does not. All I want is to be read the entire table of info using Jaws 2021 on a Win 10 20h2 system with either Google chrome or Edge.

Hi, Stan. The JAWS feature for which you are searching is Mouse Echo. This is accomplished in the following way,

1. Press JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by the letter E.

Then perform one of the following commands.

The following commands are available in the Mouse Echo layer.
Toggle mouse echo On/Off = O.
Set mouse echo to character = C.
Set mouse echo to word = W.
Set mouse echo to line = L.
Set mouse echo to paragraph = P.

Richard: I should of focused my question better.

With J2020 and Magic running, as I pulled the mouse pointer over the text in a story panel, Jaws read the contents of that story panel. What enabled Jaws to read that text? There must be a way to enable Jaws to read the text with or without Magic.

Stan

I do not have an answer about the newspaper panels, but it sounds like Vispero has reached the point of requiring folks to use Fusion which is Jaws plus ZoomText, rather than continuing Magic support. Of course, you will have to ask Vispero to be sure.



Good morning all: I was very surprised when I first tried to load Magic with jaws 2021. A voice said something like—Sorry, Magic is not compatible with J2021. You must use J2020 or before. Ouch!

 

So this my main problem. In the E edition of my local newspaper I could read the story panels only with Magic running and I would pull the mouse pointer to the story panel and jaws would read the contents of that story panel. I could read those story panels in no other way.

 

I feel certain there is a way to get Jaws to read these panels without Magic running. Any ideas?

 

Stan

 

 

Actually it's working in the other apps I've tried including word - just
not
Outlook. And in fact it's not just my Mantis, it's my Focus 40. So it
appears it might be something to do with settings. I've checked Structured
mode is on and Braille Sleep is not enabled. It's the same in Bluetooth and
in the USB connection. I've loaded the Outlook specific settings with
Insert
6 and all looks okay as far as I can tell.



John





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: 19 November 2020 22:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: APH Mantis not displaying Braile in Outlook



Hi all. Just an observation. Have you verified that your Mantice is being
seen by the PC. Usually, when you install a braille display, you can see
the
info in your device manager. Have you checked there? Also, I'm wondering if
the Narrator braille is blocking your access to braille. If braille is
installed there, it may be interfering with JAWS and any other screen
reader
for that matter.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of John Gurd via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: APH Mantis not displaying Braile in Outlook



Thanks Debbie,

I've checked, and I am in Structured Mode. I merged my settings from
earlier
and I've checked. I'm using the USB connection. I'll try Bluetooth on the
off-chance, although I doubt it will make a difference. This really is very
strange.



John





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: 19 November 2020 19:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: APH Mantis not displaying Braile in Outlook



Hi John,



Did you export your settings from JAWS 2020 to JAWS 2021? If not then it
could still be the structured mode issue. The reason I say this is because
I
am typing this on my Mantis by using a Bluetooth connection to my pc, JAWS
2021, and Outlook 2016 and all is working just fine.



Good luck!



Debby



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<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of John Gurd via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: APH Mantis not displaying Braile in Outlook



Actually, I just tried my Focus 40, 4th gen, and it's doing the same thing.
I'm using Office 365. But when I load JFW 2020 it works perfectly. So it is
an issue connected with JFW 2021. I've just made certain the Braille Sleep
mode is not enabled for Outlook, and it is not.



John





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: 19 November 2020 19:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: APH Mantis not displaying Braile in Outlook



Hi John,



This sounds very strange. Just a couple of questions. How are you connected
to the PC, via usb or Bluetooth? Which version of office are you using? In
outlook do you have JAWS speech? What happens on the Mantis display in
Outlook-do you see the cursor blinking?



I just had a thought, are you in JAWS braille structured mode for Outlook?
That's one setting that I have missed in the past when setting up a braille
display. Outlook doesn't work well without it.



Good Luck! Take care and stay safe!



Debby

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of John Gurd via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 1:39 PM
To: jfw World List <jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io> >
Subject: APH Mantis not displaying Braile in Outlook



I've just connected an APH Mantis to my PC and it seems to work fine,
except
when in Outlook where thee Braille display stops working. It works fine in
Word and Windows. I'm running JFW 2021 on Windows 10 version 2004.



There's no Braille as I write this and none anywhere else in Outlook. If I
Alt-Tab into Edge it starts working. Does anyone have a possible
explanation
or are any other Mantis users experiencing this?



John

Richard: I should of focused my question better.

With J2020 and Magic running, as I pulled the mouse pointer over the text in a story panel, Jaws read the contents of that story panel. What enabled Jaws to read that text? There must be a way to enable Jaws to read the text with or without Magic.

Stan

I do not have an answer about the newspaper panels, but it sounds like Vispero has reached the point of requiring folks to use Fusion which is Jaws plus ZoomText, rather than continuing Magic support. Of course, you will have to ask Vispero to be sure.



Good morning all: I was very surprised when I first tried to load Magic with jaws 2021. A voice said something like—Sorry, Magic is not compatible with J2021. You must use J2020 or before. Ouch!

 

So this my main problem. In the E edition of my local newspaper I could read the story panels only with Magic running and I would pull the mouse pointer to the story panel and jaws would read the contents of that story panel. I could read those story panels in no other way.

 

I feel certain there is a way to get Jaws to read these panels without Magic running. Any ideas?

 

Stan

 

 

Hi all. Just an observation. Have you verified that your Mantice is being seen by the PC. Usually, when you install a braille display, you can see the info in your device manager. Have you checked there? Also, I’m wondering if the Narrator braille is blocking your access to braille. If braille is installed there, it may be interfering with JAWS and any other screen reader for that matter.

Thanks Debbie,

I’ve checked, and I am in Structured Mode. I merged my settings from earlier and I’ve checked. I’m using the USB connection. I’ll try Bluetooth on the off-chance, although I doubt it will make a difference. This really is very strange.

John

Hi John,

Did you export your settings from JAWS 2020 to JAWS 2021? If not then it could still be the structured mode issue. The reason I say this is because I am typing this on my Mantis by using a Bluetooth connection to my pc, JAWS 2021, and Outlook 2016 and all is working just fine.

Good luck!

Debby  

Actually, I just tried my Focus 40, 4^th gen, and it’s doing the same thing. I’m using Office 365. But when I load JFW 2020 it works perfectly. So it is an issue connected with JFW 2021. I’ve just made certain the Braille Sleep mode is not enabled for Outlook, and it is not.

John

Hi John,

This sounds very strange. Just a couple of questions. How are you connected to the PC, via usb or Bluetooth? Which version of office are you using? In outlook do you have JAWS speech? What happens on the Mantis display in Outlook—do you see the cursor blinking?

I just had a thought, are you in JAWS braille structured mode for Outlook? That’s one setting that I have missed in the past when setting up a braille display. Outlook doesn’t work well without it.

Good Luck! Take care and stay safe!

Debby

I’ve just connected an APH Mantis to my PC and it seems to work fine, except when in Outlook where thee Braille display stops working. It works fine in Word and Windows. I’m running JFW 2021 on Windows 10 version 2004.

There’s no Braille as I write this and none anywhere else in Outlook. If I Alt-Tab into Edge it starts working. Does anyone have a possible explanation or are  any other Mantis users experiencing this?

John

Thanks Debbie,

I’ve checked, and I am in Structured Mode. I merged my settings from earlier and I’ve checked. I’m using the USB connection. I’ll try Bluetooth on the off-chance, although I doubt it will make a difference. This really is very strange.

John

Hi John,

Did you export your settings from JAWS 2020 to JAWS 2021? If not then it could still be the structured mode issue. The reason I say this is because I am typing this on my Mantis by using a Bluetooth connection to my pc, JAWS 2021, and Outlook 2016 and all is working just fine.

Good luck!

Debby  

Actually, I just tried my Focus 40, 4^th gen, and it’s doing the same thing. I’m using Office 365. But when I load JFW 2020 it works perfectly. So it is an issue connected with JFW 2021. I’ve just made certain the Braille Sleep mode is not enabled for Outlook, and it is not.

John

Hi John,

This sounds very strange. Just a couple of questions. How are you connected to the PC, via usb or Bluetooth? Which version of office are you using? In outlook do you have JAWS speech? What happens on the Mantis display in Outlook—do you see the cursor blinking?

I just had a thought, are you in JAWS braille structured mode for Outlook? That’s one setting that I have missed in the past when setting up a braille display. Outlook doesn’t work well without it.

Good Luck! Take care and stay safe!

Debby

I’ve just connected an APH Mantis to my PC and it seems to work fine, except when in Outlook where thee Braille display stops working. It works fine in Word and Windows. I’m running JFW 2021 on Windows 10 version 2004.

There’s no Braille as I write this and none anywhere else in Outlook. If I Alt-Tab into Edge it starts working. Does anyone have a possible explanation or are  any other Mantis users experiencing this?

John

Hi John,

Did you export your settings from JAWS 2020 to JAWS 2021? If not then it could still be the structured mode issue. The reason I say this is because I am typing this on my Mantis by using a Bluetooth connection to my pc, JAWS 2021, and Outlook 2016 and all is working just fine.

Good luck!

Debby  

Actually, I just tried my Focus 40, 4^th gen, and it’s doing the same thing. I’m using Office 365. But when I load JFW 2020 it works perfectly. So it is an issue connected with JFW 2021. I’ve just made certain the Braille Sleep mode is not enabled for Outlook, and it is not.

John

Hi John,

This sounds very strange. Just a couple of questions. How are you connected to the PC, via usb or Bluetooth? Which version of office are you using? In outlook do you have JAWS speech? What happens on the Mantis display in Outlook—do you see the cursor blinking?

I just had a thought, are you in JAWS braille structured mode for Outlook? That’s one setting that I have missed in the past when setting up a braille display. Outlook doesn’t work well without it.

Good Luck! Take care and stay safe!

Debby

I’ve just connected an APH Mantis to my PC and it seems to work fine, except when in Outlook where thee Braille display stops working. It works fine in Word and Windows. I’m running JFW 2021 on Windows 10 version 2004.

There’s no Braille as I write this and none anywhere else in Outlook. If I Alt-Tab into Edge it starts working. Does anyone have a possible explanation or are  any other Mantis users experiencing this?

John

Hi,

Has anyone noticed with JAWS 2021, when you boot your computer, or you unload and reload JAWS, it says the word JAWS.

JAWS 2020 says JAWS home edition.

If you alt tab to the JAWS window, then it will say JAWS home edition.

Andrew

On Nov 19, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:

JAWS Professional is still a one user license, but Freedoms Scientific says we need to use the professional version if using it in a work setting. There isn't any functional difference, as there used to be in the distinction between Microsoft Office Home and Professional versions. Frankly, I think what it comes down to is a pricing structure. Freedom Scientific is making up part of their revenue from licenses purchased by companies and passing on a savings to personal users who likely don't have the financial resources of a company. That's my hunch. Sure, they can charge all users the same price, but it's a smart thing they are doing to charge less for home users. I'm not sure if they can really tell if someone is using a home license in a professional setting; I figure it is on the honor system and subject to audit, like the IRS auditing your taxes.







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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

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Oh wow, is that so that you can install it on more than three computers or what? Because with the subscription service, you can install it on up to three computers plus if you need to transfer to another computer you can do the exact same thing my dad and I couldn't figure out why I would need the professional version since they pretty much offer the same thing.

On Nov 18, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:

Joseph,
Those of us using JAWS at a company cannot use the annual home license anyway. We have to use the Professional version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Milton, what I was suggesting below, was him speaking with his employer about getting the $90 subscription. Whether it had to be done through an administrator or himself.

On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Listers,

RE: tele1974@gmail.com

He has been responded to and his situation will not be able to be solved by this list or tech support at Freedom Scientific. The individual works for a Federal Government Agency and the individual does not have Admin Rights so he cannot update the computer no matter if he was able to purchase a one year license to get the latest copy of JAWS and install it. The individual has to speak with his Supervisor and the IT Department to unlock the computer so that he has Admin Rights or get the IT Admin to work with him to resolve the problem he is having.

There is no need to respond to him or the list at this time.




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Or ask your employer if you can purchase the $90 home subscription for this computer you are medically get the new versions once they are released.

On Nov 13, 2020, at 7:29 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com> wrote:

If you are running windows 10 especially the latest versions of windows 10 jaws 18 isn’t going to play well with it. You need to ask your employer for the latest version of Jaws.

Randy Barnett

On Nov 13, 2020, at 3:07 PM, tele1974@gmail.com wrote:


Hello, I’m hoping someone has some help, I just received a windows 10 laptop through work, and we are running jaws 18. The issues I’m having are:
1, when hitting alt plus other keys, IE alt+a to go to my explorer favorites, or other similar commands, the command works maybe 25 percent of the time. Sometimes I have to repeatedly hit the command, and sometimes it just doesn’t work at all. I’ve not found this with previous versions of windows running jaws 18.

2, the other issue I have is that when I am typing into an edit field, such as a search field on a search engine, or in any other explorer based program, many of the characters I type are not entering into the box. It’s almost as if there is a lag of some kind. I will have to go back and add about half the characters I’ve typed back in, as only fragments of words show up in the box.
I’m hoping this makes sense and that someone may have some suggestions.
Thanks,
Kurt

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Is this different than in JAWS2020?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Don H <lmddh50@adams.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and web tables
OK I have a web page that has a table I am trying to read. It says in the Jaws documentation that control alt numpad 5 is supposed to read the table info. I find it does not. All I want is to be read the entire table of info using Jaws 2021 on a Win 10 20h2 system with either Google chrome or Edge.

Hi,

Has anyone noticed with JAWS 2021, when you boot your computer, or you unload and reload JAWS, it says the word JAWS.

JAWS 2020 says JAWS home edition.

If you alt tab to the JAWS window, then it will say JAWS home edition.

Andrew