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moderated web page tables

Don H
 

So is there any setting within Jaws to stop reading the table info like number of rows and colums and just read the info in the table?


moderated Re: table on web page

 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Don H wrote:
Insert space bar did not help.
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Note that Ann Byrne said use INS+Spacebar,T to turn on the table layer and allow arrow keys to be used to traverse within a table until you hit something that takes you out of table layer mode.
 
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moderated Re: table on web page

 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Don H wrote:
Insert space bar did not help.
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Take a look at the Keystrokes document, the Tables section.  You can have JAWS list table navigation keystrokes using INS+Spacebar,T,Question Mark.
 
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moderated Re: table on web page

Don H
 

Insert space bar did not help.

On 11/18/2020 4:45 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
the other thing to try is the layered keystroke, insert+spacebar, then t.  You can use the arrow keys to move around the table in this mode, but pressing tab, ctrl, or alt will take you out of the layered mode.
At 04:38 PM 11/18/2020, you wrote:
Thanks that works.  A little more complicated than what I am used to using NVDA.

On 11/18/2020 4:33 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:
Does it work if you use Control alt and the arrow keys to move between sells?

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OK I have decided that since I am paying for the Jaws SMA's I will finally start learning how to use Jaws.  I have Jaws version 2021 and Win 10 20h2 and am using microsoft edge.
There is a table on the ups web site to track a shipment that shows current status.  When I use NVDA I can arrow down through this table and it reads me the information.  With Jaws it just tells me the info of the table rows and colums but does not read the contents of the bable.  What am I doing wrong with jaws to read the info?
Thanks



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moderated Re: table on web page

Ann Byrne
 

the other thing to try is the layered keystroke, insert+spacebar, then t. You can use the arrow keys to move around the table in this mode, but pressing tab, ctrl, or alt will take you out of the layered mode.

At 04:38 PM 11/18/2020, you wrote:
Thanks that works. A little more complicated than what I am used to using NVDA.

On 11/18/2020 4:33 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:
Does it work if you use Control alt and the arrow keys to move between sells?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: table on web page
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OK I have decided that since I am paying for the Jaws SMA's I will finally start learning how to use Jaws. I have Jaws version 2021 and Win 10 20h2 and am using microsoft edge.
There is a table on the ups web site to track a shipment that shows current status. When I use NVDA I can arrow down through this table and it reads me the information. With Jaws it just tells me the info of the table rows and colums but does not read the contents of the bable. What am I doing wrong with jaws to read the info?
Thanks



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moderated Re: table on web page

Don H
 

Thanks that works. A little more complicated than what I am used to using NVDA.

On 11/18/2020 4:33 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io wrote:
Does it work if you use Control alt and the arrow keys to move between sells?
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: table on web page
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OK I have decided that since I am paying for the Jaws SMA's I will finally start learning how to use Jaws. I have Jaws version 2021 and Win 10 20h2 and am using microsoft edge.
There is a table on the ups web site to track a shipment that shows current status. When I use NVDA I can arrow down through this table and it reads me the information. With Jaws it just tells me the info of the table rows and colums but does not read the contents of the bable. What am I doing wrong with jaws to read the info?
Thanks
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moderated Re: table on web page

Van Lant, Robin
 

Does it work if you use Control alt and the arrow keys to move between sells?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: table on web page

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OK I have decided that since I am paying for the Jaws SMA's I will finally start learning how to use Jaws. I have Jaws version 2021 and Win 10 20h2 and am using microsoft edge.
There is a table on the ups web site to track a shipment that shows current status. When I use NVDA I can arrow down through this table and it reads me the information. With Jaws it just tells me the info of the table rows and colums but does not read the contents of the bable. What am I doing wrong with jaws to read the info?
Thanks






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moderated table on web page

Don H
 

OK I have decided that since I am paying for the Jaws SMA's I will finally start learning how to use Jaws. I have Jaws version 2021 and Win 10 20h2 and am using microsoft edge.
There is a table on the ups web site to track a shipment that shows current status. When I use NVDA I can arrow down through this table and it reads me the information. With Jaws it just tells me the info of the table rows and colums but does not read the contents of the bable. What am I doing wrong with jaws to read the info?
Thanks


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Richard Turner
 

Is the price going up in Canada on January 1, 2021 also?
If so, you may want to buy it before the end of December to avoid the price hike.



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

Very unfortunate. User error on my part has me paying $165 for the upgrade from 20 to 21. From there, I can purchase an SMA that will bring me to 2023, so long as I do it before 2022 is released.
For any Canadian users, I can handily recommend Ryan from Canasstech. Friendly, professional, and very efficient. I emailed him at 7 PM central and got an email 15 minutes later letting me know he'd be in touch the next day.
I'd really be interested to know why we're not able to get the annual license here in Canada. Surely there is nothing stopping Vispero from enabling it here. I've put so much money into Jaws I can't afford to start falling behind at this point.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

All info good, just doesn't apply to Canadian users of JAWS. We do not have the ability to get a annual subscription like U S citizens do. There is no idea if we ever will, either according to a rep from Vispero. Thus we have to pay the $165 for a home edition SMA or over $300 for the professional edition. Since I just use JAWS on 3 computers, it was suggested I just get the home version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the
20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected.
Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Tyler Wood
 

Very unfortunate. User error on my part has me paying $165 for the upgrade from 20 to 21. From there, I can purchase an SMA that will bring me to 2023, so long as I do it before 2022 is released.
For any Canadian users, I can handily recommend Ryan from Canasstech. Friendly, professional, and very efficient. I emailed him at 7 PM central and got an email 15 minutes later letting me know he'd be in touch the next day.
I'd really be interested to know why we're not able to get the annual license here in Canada. Surely there is nothing stopping Vispero from enabling it here. I've put so much money into Jaws I can't afford to start falling behind at this point.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

All info good, just doesn't apply to Canadian users of JAWS. We do not have the ability to get a annual subscription like U S citizens do. There is no idea if we ever will, either according to a rep from Vispero. Thus we have to pay the $165 for a home edition SMA or over $300 for the professional edition. Since I just use JAWS on 3 computers, it was suggested I just get the home version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual
license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still
purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that
version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you
choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be
updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be
updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an
issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the
20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use
JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20
was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in
technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute
that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected.
Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You
should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version
of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to
use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it
up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the
annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I
don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full
license copy?


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Richard Turner
 

If you have Jaws 2019, you would have to pay for 2020 and 2021.
You could call Vispero and ask to get an actual price.
Or, plan to commit to the annual license at the rate of at least $90 per year to avoid falling back to the 40 minute demo.


Richard
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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

So what about those who have the JAWS 19 and want to upgrade to 21? They have to pay for who knows how many upgrades to be current.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: November 18, 2020 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you have an SM a, the best thing to do is keep it up-to-date. If you ever let it lapse, or go to the home annual license, you will end up spending more money. $90 times two is 180. Where as the SMA for two years is currently $150.
If you switch to the home annual license and decide not to renew it, you will then be downgraded to the demo 40 minute version.
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA through 2023.
> You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you have to still pay for 2024.
> I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost effective.
> But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....
>
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>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 > > Check out my web site at: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C2ba69ab94c714f69632b08d88c0a223a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637413322429336798%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=FuYKkTDKbO09c%2Fyuj6wR6DxDmtVdhrZ4zM6c3C5MY0Y%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription > > If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of > David Diamond > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription > > The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected.
Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy > Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription > > When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use them.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM > Subject: Jaws annual subscription > > > OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?
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moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

David Diamond
 

All info good, just doesn't apply to Canadian users of JAWS. We do not have the ability to get a annual subscription like U S citizens do. There is no idea if we ever will, either according to a rep from Vispero. Thus we have to pay the $165 for a home edition SMA or over $300 for the professional edition. Since I just use JAWS on 3 computers, it was suggested I just get the home version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual
license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still
purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that
version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you
choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be
updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be
updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an
issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the
20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use
JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20
was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in
technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute
that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected.
Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You
should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version
of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to
use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it
up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the
annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I
don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full
license copy?


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

David Diamond
 

So what about those who have the JAWS 19 and want to upgrade to 21? They have to pay for who knows how many upgrades to be current.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: November 18, 2020 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you have an SM a, the best thing to do is keep it up-to-date. If you ever let it
lapse, or go to the home annual license, you will end up spending more
money. $90 times two is 180. Where as the SMA for two years is currently
$150.
If you switch to the home annual license and decide not to renew it, you will
then be downgraded to the demo 40 minute version.
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner
<richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA
through 2023.
> You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you
have to still pay for 2024.
> I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the
annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost
effective.
> But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning
how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription
>
> If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual
license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still
purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that
version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you
choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be
updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be
updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an
issue.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> David Diamond
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription
>
> The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had
the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still
use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few
years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades
in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute
that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected.
Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You
should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
> Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription
>
> When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version
of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to
use them.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
> Subject: Jaws annual subscription
>
>
> OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it
up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the
annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I
don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full
license copy?
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moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Mario
 

and remember the price of the annual subscription will most likely go up as well as for the perpetual subscription next year.

-------- Original Message --------
From: NFB Lab 4 [mailto:nfbsc.lab.4@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 3:21 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription
The only reason that it is jumping to $210 is because you did not pay
the $150 before the end of the year.


On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io
<bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:




That's now.  But starting in January, an SMA will jump from $150 to
$210, so a two-year license at $180 would be cheaper.


Gerald



On 11/18/2020 2:34 PM, NFB Lab 4 wrote:
If you have an SM a, the best thing to do is keep it up-to-date. If you ever let it lapse, or go to the home annual license, you will end up spending more money. $90 times two is 180. Where as the SMA for two years is currently $150.
If you switch to the home annual license and decide not to renew it, you will then be downgraded to the demo 40 minute version.
On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner<richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA through 2023.
You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you have to still pay for 2024.
I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost effective.
But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at:www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From:main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From:main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected. Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From:main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H"<lmddh50@adams.net>
To:<main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?


moderated JAWS and scheduling an email officeblecfe Outlook

Shai
 

Hello,
I am using JAWS2021 on a Windows 10 machine with Google Chrome version
86 and I am trying to schedule emails to be sent in Office 365 outlook
on the web.
I researched if this had been possible and the site I saw stated to
locate the dropdown on the right of the send button and choose send
later and then pick a date.
I did find a dropdown more actions after I selected the more actions
check box in the compose window but when I press enter on this more
actions drop down all I see there is edit in a separate window.
Is there a setting that needs to be enabled within outlook on the web
for this to work?
Thank you in advance for any responses.


--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

NFB Lab 4
 

The only reason that it is jumping to $210 is because you did not pay the $150 before the end of the year.


On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io <bwaylimited@...> wrote:




That's now.  But starting in January, an SMA will jump from $150 to $210, so a two-year license at $180 would be cheaper.


Gerald



On 11/18/2020 2:34 PM, NFB Lab 4 wrote:
If you have an SM a, the best thing to do is keep it up-to-date. If you ever let it lapse, or go to the home annual license, you will end up spending more money. $90 times two is 180. Where as the SMA for two years is currently $150.
If you switch to the home annual license and decide not to renew it, you will then be downgraded to the demo 40 minute version.
On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA through 2023.
You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you have to still pay for 2024.
I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost effective.
But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero.  I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20.  The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade.  Others can refute that if they want.  I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected.  Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea.  "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of  JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use  them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it  up to date with a SMA.  Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the  annual $90 subscription.  What happens at the end of that subscription if I  don't purchase another subscription?  Do I lose the use of what was a full  license copy?































moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Gerald Levy
 


That's now.  But starting in January, an SMA will jump from $150 to $210, so a two-year license at $180 would be cheaper.


Gerald



On 11/18/2020 2:34 PM, NFB Lab 4 wrote:
If you have an SM a, the best thing to do is keep it up-to-date. If you ever let it lapse, or go to the home annual license, you will end up spending more money. $90 times two is 180. Where as the SMA for two years is currently $150.
If you switch to the home annual license and decide not to renew it, you will then be downgraded to the demo 40 minute version.
On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA through 2023.
You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you have to still pay for 2024.
I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost effective.
But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero.  I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20.  The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade.  Others can refute that if they want.  I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected.  Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea.  "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.   

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of  JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use  them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it  up to date with a SMA.  Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the  annual $90 subscription.  What happens at the end of that subscription if I  don't purchase another subscription?  Do I lose the use of what was a full  license copy?
































moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

NFB Lab 4
 

If you have an SM a, the best thing to do is keep it up-to-date. If you ever let it lapse, or go to the home annual license, you will end up spending more money. $90 times two is 180. Where as the SMA for two years is currently $150.
If you switch to the home annual license and decide not to renew it, you will then be downgraded to the demo 40 minute version.

On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA through 2023.
You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you have to still pay for 2024.
I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost effective.
But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected. Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?



























moderated Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

Vaughn Brown
 

Thank you, Brian.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

 

Cynthia,

           See:  https://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/word-find-highlighted-text/  and use find to find "find function" to get straight to the meat of the matter for the method you'll use.

           If you don't like that tutorial, then have a look at the others returned by this DuckDuckGo Search:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MS-Word+search+for+highlighted+text 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

Cynthia Bruce
 

Excellent, thank you.


On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:12 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Cynthia,

           See:  https://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/word-find-highlighted-text/  and use find to find "find function" to get straight to the meat of the matter for the method you'll use.

           If you don't like that tutorial, then have a look at the others returned by this DuckDuckGo Search:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MS-Word+search+for+highlighted+text 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

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