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moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

NFB Lab 4
 

If you have an SM a, the best thing to do is keep it up-to-date. If you ever let it lapse, or go to the home annual license, you will end up spending more money. $90 times two is 180. Where as the SMA for two years is currently $150.
If you switch to the home annual license and decide not to renew it, you will then be downgraded to the demo 40 minute version.

On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA through 2023.
You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you have to still pay for 2024.
I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost effective.
But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected. Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?



























moderated Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

Vaughn Brown
 

Thank you, Brian.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

 

Cynthia,

           See:  https://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/word-find-highlighted-text/  and use find to find "find function" to get straight to the meat of the matter for the method you'll use.

           If you don't like that tutorial, then have a look at the others returned by this DuckDuckGo Search:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MS-Word+search+for+highlighted+text 
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moderated Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

Cynthia Bruce
 

Excellent, thank you.


On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:12 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Cynthia,

           See:  https://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/word-find-highlighted-text/  and use find to find "find function" to get straight to the meat of the matter for the method you'll use.

           If you don't like that tutorial, then have a look at the others returned by this DuckDuckGo Search:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MS-Word+search+for+highlighted+text 
--

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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Richard Turner
 

If memory serves, and that could be a big if, let's say you have a SMA through 2023.
You decide to skip 2024 and want to get a full license for 2025 and 26, you have to still pay for 2024.
I still like the SMA approach, but at some point, I may decide to switch if the annual purchase stays at $90 per year because by 2024, that will be more cost effective.
But, not even the Shadow knows if that price will stay the same ....



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected. Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

 

If you switch to the subscription license of JAWS, that is a non-perpetual license that must be purchased and renewed every year. You can still purchase a full license with an SMA and get a perpetual license for that version of JAWS and use it for as long as you like. It won't expire whether you choose to keep purchasing an SMA or not. As Windows continues to be updated and your various programs such as Office 365 continue to be updated, how effective the older version of JAWS will remain might be an issue.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected. Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?


moderated Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

 

Cynthia,

           See:  https://cybertext.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/word-find-highlighted-text/  and use find to find "find function" to get straight to the meat of the matter for the method you'll use.

           If you don't like that tutorial, then have a look at the others returned by this DuckDuckGo Search:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=MS-Word+search+for+highlighted+text 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

Ann Byrne
 

Check out skim reading in the training docs. I am sure you can search for a color, but not sure about a highlight.

Maybe.

Good luck!


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Alan Robbins
 

I would suggest calling FS or Vispero, seem to go by both names. Lots of variables so I don't want to give out incorrect information.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws annual subscription

OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

David Diamond
 

The same is true if your SMA runs out, according to a rep at Vispero. I had the 20 version, if I did not renew my SMA because it had run out, I could still use JAWS 20. The kicker is though, from what I can remember, if in a few years 20 was out of date as in not working properly because of the upgrades in technology, I'd have to pay for each succeeding upgrade. Others can refute that if they want. I don't know everything and don't mind being corrected. Providing of course the person has factual info, not their own idea. "You should ... it could ..." Yes, I did renew my SMA at $165 and do have the 21.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 18, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws annual subscription

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version of
JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to use
them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it
up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the
annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I
don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full
license copy?


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

When your subscription runs out you no longer have access for that version
of JAWS. If you have the SMA you keep those version as long as you wish to
use them.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:32 PM
Subject: Jaws annual subscription


OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been
keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA
but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that
subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the
use of what was a full license copy?


moderated Re: Jaws annual subscription

Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
 

I guess you will be able to activate your old licensed copy assuming
that you have got an SMA to the latest version of JAWS. If not, it
qwill revert to 40 min mode.


moderated Jaws annual subscription

Don H
 

OK I have a full licensed copy of Jaws home edition and have been keeping it up to date with a SMA. Lets say I don't purchase another SMA but go for the annual $90 subscription. What happens at the end of that subscription if I don't purchase another subscription? Do I lose the use of what was a full license copy?


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I know this, Sieghard, but, by default, the Apps folder is displayed as a
horizontal grid, and if you exit the Apps folder and reenter it, the view
goes back to the default. You can't set this permanently. This is why I was
telling Madison about the way the folder is laid out. If it were possible to
permanently set another view in the Apps folder, I would have told him/her
this.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hello Bill,

That all depends on which View yu select, by default it might be showing as
a grid, but you can display this folder just as any other folder with small
icons, medium icons, large icons, a list or details and the standard folder
shortcut keys apply, e.g. Control + Shift + numberRow 6 for Details. If you
select to show it as a list or details all apps are listed one below the
other and of course first letter navigation applies so simply typing J will
take you instantly to Jaws.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi Bill,
Thanks for this, I didn't know that's how you're supposed to navigate the
folder. Wish I'd known that before! Thanks again!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi, Sieghard. Even if Madison is using Windows 10, one thing he/she may not
know is that in the Apps Folder (accessed through shell:AppsFolder), one
does not use the up and down arrows to navigate through the files. The files
are laid out horizontally, and navigation is accomplished by using the left
and right arrows.
Because of this, the JAWS application could have been missed, if the up and
down arrows were being used as the method of navigation in the Apps Folder.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

No offense, but maybe you are not doing something the way it is explained.
If you have Jaws installed on your computer and are using Windows 10 the
Shell:AppsFolder command will definitely show you a list which contains
Jaws.
Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7? Don't think you said and I don't
recall if anybody asked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

The issue with that is that Jaws isn't on that list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hey there, Madison, BZ here again, grin! There's another way to do this in
windows ten. 1. Hit windows key plus r which will bring up the run dialog.
2. Type shell:appsfolder and then press enter. This will bring up a list
of all your applications. Down arrow until you hear jaws and then hit your
applications key and go down until you hear create shortcut and then press
enter. You'll get a message that will say something like do you want
windows to create a shortcut anyway and then press enter. I'm doing the
message off the top of my head so that's not the verbatim message you'll
hear but this method will create the jaws item on your desktop. If you're
not comfortable doing this and you need assistance, just let me know and
I'll be happy to help you. BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I
went into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to
create a shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for
Jaws on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to
start Jaws, I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set
or not. Thanks
Madison








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moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

 

While I can get the shell:AppsFolder to display in any of the typical views, it does not respond to the standard folder shortcut keys to change the view.  The only way I can get there is:

1. Activate the Organize dropdown, Layout Option, Menu Bar toggle.
2. Activate the View Menu (ALT+V), Details option (followed by D).

It also always reverts to Tiles view, it's default, if you close it and open it again later, no matter what view you had chosen for it using the above method.

With NVDA, and I'd have to believe with JAWS (but haven't tested), first letter navigation works regardless of the view chosen.
--

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       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Office 365

 

It's under File > Office Account. Also, for Office 365 there is no Office 2019, this refers only to the stand-alone version. With Office being a subscription product you will always have the latest version.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

 

Dan,

I’m not finding an update option under Files, Options.

Could you say more where you are finding this?

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

 

Hi,

Using Office 365 and JAWS 2021.  No major issues other than those that have lingered over last couple of JAWS versions.  Nothing major.

In your office application you need to go to options , under the file menu, and then update.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

 

Good question.

I’ve not heard great things about Jaws and Microsoft 2019, so I have not really looked into it.

I also haven’t bothered to call Microsoft and ask.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:04 AM
To: access-uk@...
Cc: JAWS <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Office 365

 

Hi All,

A question about office 365 version number.

My word and outlook apps and so on is 2016, when there are updates, why don’t my apps get updated to 2019?

Is there a way to get them updated to 2019?

 

Andrew


moderated Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Van Lant, Robin
 

Joseph,
Those of us using JAWS at a company cannot use the annual home license anyway. We have to use the Professional version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Milton, what I was suggesting below, was him speaking with his employer about getting the $90 subscription. Whether it had to be done through an administrator or himself.
On Nov 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Listers,

RE: tele1974@gmail.com

He has been responded to and his situation will not be able to be solved by this list or tech support at Freedom Scientific. The individual works for a Federal Government Agency and the individual does not have Admin Rights so he cannot update the computer no matter if he was able to purchase a one year license to get the latest copy of JAWS and install it. The individual has to speak with his Supervisor and the IT Department to unlock the computer so that he has Admin Rights or get the IT Admin to work with him to resolve the problem he is having.

There is no need to respond to him or the list at this time.




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Or ask your employer if you can purchase the $90 home subscription for this computer you are medically get the new versions once they are released.
On Nov 13, 2020, at 7:29 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com> wrote:

If you are running windows 10 especially the latest versions of windows 10 jaws 18 isn’t going to play well with it. You need to ask your employer for the latest version of Jaws.

Randy Barnett

On Nov 13, 2020, at 3:07 PM, tele1974@gmail.com wrote:


Hello, I’m hoping someone has some help, I just received a windows 10 laptop through work, and we are running jaws 18. The issues I’m having are:
1, when hitting alt plus other keys, IE alt+a to go to my explorer favorites, or other similar commands, the command works maybe 25 percent of the time. Sometimes I have to repeatedly hit the command, and sometimes it just doesn’t work at all. I’ve not found this with previous versions of windows running jaws 18.

2, the other issue I have is that when I am typing into an edit field, such as a search field on a search engine, or in any other explorer based program, many of the characters I type are not entering into the box. It’s almost as if there is a lag of some kind. I will have to go back and add about half the characters I’ve typed back in, as only fragments of words show up in the box.
I’m hoping this makes sense and that someone may have some suggestions.
Thanks,
Kurt














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moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

 

Hello Bill,

That all depends on which View yu select, by default it might be showing as a grid, but you can display this folder just as any other folder with small icons, medium icons, large icons, a list or details and the standard folder shortcut keys apply, e.g. Control + Shift + numberRow 6 for Details. If you select to show it as a list or details all apps are listed one below the other and of course first letter navigation applies so simply typing J will take you instantly to Jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi Bill,
Thanks for this, I didn't know that's how you're supposed to navigate the folder. Wish I'd known that before! Thanks again!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi, Sieghard. Even if Madison is using Windows 10, one thing he/she may not know is that in the Apps Folder (accessed through shell:AppsFolder), one does not use the up and down arrows to navigate through the files. The files are laid out horizontally, and navigation is accomplished by using the left and right arrows.
Because of this, the JAWS application could have been missed, if the up and down arrows were being used as the method of navigation in the Apps Folder.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

No offense, but maybe you are not doing something the way it is explained.
If you have Jaws installed on your computer and are using Windows 10 the Shell:AppsFolder command will definitely show you a list which contains Jaws.
Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7? Don't think you said and I don't recall if anybody asked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

The issue with that is that Jaws isn't on that list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hey there, Madison, BZ here again, grin! There's another way to do this in windows ten. 1. Hit windows key plus r which will bring up the run dialog.
2. Type shell:appsfolder and then press enter. This will bring up a list of all your applications. Down arrow until you hear jaws and then hit your applications key and go down until you hear create shortcut and then press enter. You'll get a message that will say something like do you want windows to create a shortcut anyway and then press enter. I'm doing the message off the top of my head so that's not the verbatim message you'll hear but this method will create the jaws item on your desktop. If you're not comfortable doing this and you need assistance, just let me know and I'll be happy to help you. BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws, I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison








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moderated Can you search for highlighted text in MS word?

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi All,

 

I received a manuscript proof that indicates a missing resource is highlighted. Can I search for this highlighted text? I am using JAWS 2020 and Word 2016.

 

Thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Asking a outlook 2019 mail question with jaws.

Ann Byrne
 

Is it possible that outlook is set to empty the deleted items on exit, so there is in fact nothing in that folder?


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Ok, I shall wait until next week when I plan to upgrade. Also Richard, for me there is no concern whether footnotes appear at bottom of page, I usually switch to draft view when reading long documents in braille. Usually when I pick a footnote number, I press the relevant cursor routing button and usually go to them with cntrl-shift-e which pays most of the time. However, since this is really a preview screen and I particularly want to read a very long note, I use the customary method of windows key-colon, arrow down to footnotes and then have to find the one I want, a bit more tedious when you get to say, note 289 or so.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

I’m using Jaws 2021.

That might be the difference.

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

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*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Richard, I will try it again, perhaps this may have changed with latest jaws2020 version. I shall let you all know.

                                                                           Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

With my Orbit Reader 20 plus, in Word 2016 from Microsoft Office 365, leaving the UI option checked and having Comments, Footnotes, and Endnotes Detection On in Reading OptionsWord Settings, when I come to a footnote with the braille display it shows the number sign, dot 1 for number 1, with dots 7,8 under both cells, and so on.

Then, at the bottom of the page, it shows the number and the text of the footnote.

I am using UEB Contracted.

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Will give it a try, but at least for me, using braille, I lost the ability to find footnote numbers in documents and thus proceed with reading them.

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

I find that leaving UI checked works fine.

If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document.

Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting:

Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
General Options Word Settings
Since Office 2013, JAWS has started to rely on UI Automation (UIA) provided by Microsoft, in order to provide the most robust solution for documents in Office.
Microsoft is making significant changes in UIA in the ongoing development of Office 365 and this control, when unchecked, gives users an opportunity to rely only on the Document Object Model rather than UIA. This could be useful for users who are using Office 365 and run into any issues that might have been introduced by recent changes in UIA.
Restart Word after changing this setting for your changes to take effect.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 

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