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moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Shan Noyes
 

Hi

 

One thing you might check out is the controls for the touch pad. 

On my laptop I have a touch pad and my sleeves some times causes the mouse to move around however, in my case the fix is quite simple.  If I tap twice on the upper left side it toggles the touch pad on and off.

 

Anyways, just a easy control feature if your laptop supports it. 

 

Have a good day.

 

 

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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

 

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Hi,

I actually keep my mouse on. I don’t ever even use the buttons to click when prompted. I usually don’t have any trouble with the mouse pad, unless I have long sleeves on. I keep the mouse on because I sometimes have someone who can see helping with the computer. I like the idea of having cardboard taped to the touchpad, though.

 

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Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

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www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

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moderated Re: Excel cells with drop down

Van Lant, Robin
 

John,

Alt down arrow works in this case.  Sometimes JAWS focus can be a little slow, so if you don’t hear anything, use the insert up arrow to read the current line of text to be sure focus is where you want it.  I’m using JAWS 2020 and Office 365, running some version of Excel 2016 on this laptop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel cells with drop down

 

Hello:

In an Excel spread sheet I am using, there are cells that state:

 

Has drop down (gives cell coordinates) contains data validation drop down menu

 

Can anyone explain how to access the drop down choices of such a cell?

Any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.

 

Sincerely,

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

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moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Richard Turner
 

I’m using Jaws 2021.

That might be the difference.

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Richard, I will try it again, perhaps this may have changed with latest jaws2020 version. I shall let you all know.

                                                                           Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

With my Orbit Reader 20 plus, in Word 2016 from Microsoft Office 365, leaving the UI option checked and having Comments, Footnotes, and Endnotes Detection On in Reading OptionsWord Settings, when I come to a footnote with the braille display it shows the number sign, dot 1 for number 1, with dots 7,8 under both cells, and so on.

Then, at the bottom of the page, it shows the number and the text of the footnote.

I am using UEB Contracted.

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Will give it a try, but at least for me, using braille, I lost the ability to find footnote numbers in documents and thus proceed with reading them.

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

I find that leaving UI checked works fine.

If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document.

Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting:

Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
General Options Word Settings
Since Office 2013, JAWS has started to rely on UI Automation (UIA) provided by Microsoft, in order to provide the most robust solution for documents in Office.
Microsoft is making significant changes in UIA in the ongoing development of Office 365 and this control, when unchecked, gives users an opportunity to rely only on the Document Object Model rather than UIA. This could be useful for users who are using Office 365 and run into any issues that might have been introduced by recent changes in UIA.
Restart Word after changing this setting for your changes to take effect.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Richard, I will try it again, perhaps this may have changed with latest jaws2020 version. I shall let you all know.

                                                                           Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

With my Orbit Reader 20 plus, in Word 2016 from Microsoft Office 365, leaving the UI option checked and having Comments, Footnotes, and Endnotes Detection On in Reading OptionsWord Settings, when I come to a footnote with the braille display it shows the number sign, dot 1 for number 1, with dots 7,8 under both cells, and so on.

Then, at the bottom of the page, it shows the number and the text of the footnote.

I am using UEB Contracted.

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Will give it a try, but at least for me, using braille, I lost the ability to find footnote numbers in documents and thus proceed with reading them.

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

I find that leaving UI checked works fine.

If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document.

Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting:

Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
General Options Word Settings
Since Office 2013, JAWS has started to rely on UI Automation (UIA) provided by Microsoft, in order to provide the most robust solution for documents in Office.
Microsoft is making significant changes in UIA in the ongoing development of Office 365 and this control, when unchecked, gives users an opportunity to rely only on the Document Object Model rather than UIA. This could be useful for users who are using Office 365 and run into any issues that might have been introduced by recent changes in UIA.
Restart Word after changing this setting for your changes to take effect.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Richard Turner
 

With my Orbit Reader 20 plus, in Word 2016 from Microsoft Office 365, leaving the UI option checked and having Comments, Footnotes, and Endnotes Detection On in Reading OptionsWord Settings, when I come to a footnote with the braille display it shows the number sign, dot 1 for number 1, with dots 7,8 under both cells, and so on.

Then, at the bottom of the page, it shows the number and the text of the footnote.

I am using UEB Contracted.

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Will give it a try, but at least for me, using braille, I lost the ability to find footnote numbers in documents and thus proceed with reading them.

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

I find that leaving UI checked works fine.

If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document.

Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting:

Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
General Options Word Settings
Since Office 2013, JAWS has started to rely on UI Automation (UIA) provided by Microsoft, in order to provide the most robust solution for documents in Office.
Microsoft is making significant changes in UIA in the ongoing development of Office 365 and this control, when unchecked, gives users an opportunity to rely only on the Document Object Model rather than UIA. This could be useful for users who are using Office 365 and run into any issues that might have been introduced by recent changes in UIA.
Restart Word after changing this setting for your changes to take effect.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Phillips Large White Cursors

Mark Arnold ABG
 

Group,

 

I have used these cursors in the past on previous versions of Windows.  Does anyone know if these cursors are compatible with Windows 10?

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

Motivate, Inspire & Serve

 


moderated Excel cells with drop down

John Doering
 

Hello:

In an Excel spread sheet I am using, there are cells that state:

 

Has drop down (gives cell coordinates) contains data validation drop down menu

 

Can anyone explain how to access the drop down choices of such a cell?

Any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.

 

Sincerely,

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Jaffar Sidek
 

And there are people on this list, from outside of America, who are not in the least interested in what goes on politically over there.

On 17/11/2020 9:07 pm, Michael Mote wrote:

This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have posted something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but this was allowed. Doesn’t seem fair to me.

Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let’s stick to the reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to ourselves or at least on lists besides this one.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Re: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi Bill  When I was on the task manager  I did try press ctrl +shift + esc  to task manager  then I press insert key + alt + w then it’s say task manager   I press ctrl + a then press ctrl  + c I didn’t hear jaws copy to say clipboard  so when I read your message  you stated that I have to hold the jaws “insert key” then press alt + w then I can press ctrl + c to copy clipboard  I will try that again to see what’s happen from there and thanks .

Addison   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

 

Hi, Addison. Once you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus ESCAPE, and are in Task Manager on the tab you wish, press JAWS key plus ALT plus W. You must hold down JAWS key plus ALT, and press W. This will put JAWS in Virtual mode, and you can then select all, and copy to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:34 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  and desktop computer window10  !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc  it’s take me to task manager  window page  When I arrow  through the items I press ctrl + a to select all  then press ctrl + c  it won’t copyselector   !! How can I copy all the item on task manager window page with jaws2020 ?

Addison


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Michael Mote
 

This article has no business on this list. If a republican would have posted something pro Trump, everybody would be up in arms over it, but this was allowed. Doesn’t seem fair to me.

Political opinions have no place here. Just my two cents. Let’s stick to the reason for this list, and keep our political opinions to ourselves or at least on lists besides this one.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Re: ident first line of paragraph

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

When you’re in the Word doc, do the following. Press your applications key, and press p. You might have to tab away from the paste group to get to paragraph settings. Of course, JAWS just says paragraph. Enter on that and tab to special. When you arrow down the first time to “open” this box, JAWS says nothing. However, another down arrow takes you to “first line.” That’s your indent on the paragraph. Of course, you must, if you’ve already written the document, select all of it from your first sentence/the one you wish to indent automatically. If you’ve not written the document, just follow the steps to get to the paragraph settings. Note that you have to press enter twice after selecting “first line.” Watch it though. As I’ve found, when doing headings—alt CTRL plus one for H1 in docs, the next line will automatically go to the left alinement. That’s not what you want, so press enter a couple times, check the font status with JAWS and f, and once your sure the current line is still at “first line at .5 inches” or whatever it says, then you can arrow up to the prior line to reset your heading. Hope this helps, and in the “by” box right another tab away from “first line” in paragraph, you can set your indent inches, so...
Ashleigh Piccinino 


On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:19 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



 

Hello, I’m using Jaws2020 and word 2016. I need to setup the entire file to indent the first line of each paragraph on its own. I went through the layout tab. I couldn’t find anything that would let me set the file to do it. Are there a string keys I can turn this on?

Thanks,

Kevin

 

 


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Richard/all,

Will give it a try, but at least for me, using braille, I lost the ability to find footnote numbers in documents and thus proceed with reading them.

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

I find that leaving UI checked works fine.

If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document.

Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting:

Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
General Options Word Settings
Since Office 2013, JAWS has started to rely on UI Automation (UIA) provided by Microsoft, in order to provide the most robust solution for documents in Office.
Microsoft is making significant changes in UIA in the ongoing development of Office 365 and this control, when unchecked, gives users an opportunity to rely only on the Document Object Model rather than UIA. This could be useful for users who are using Office 365 and run into any issues that might have been introduced by recent changes in UIA.
Restart Word after changing this setting for your changes to take effect.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Faulse info, all I’m saying. Please don’t post anything like that on this list.


On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:23 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Richard is this really you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:44 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:
So be it, take it somewhere else!
-
I didn't bring it here.  And whether I agree with the slant of the article or not, I personally think what is in it, which can be verified elsewhere, is important enough to warrant mentioning in a venue such as this one.

Some of us don't believe that, "Kill the messenger," is a worthwhile philosophy.

And with that, I'm done.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Rick Mladek
 

So be it, take it somewhere else!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

Fact-based reporting, even with a very strong political slant, isn't propaganda.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

Fact-based reporting, even with a very strong political slant, isn't propaganda.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

This is just more political propaganda... Which  I thought was off limits here.


On 11/16/2020 4:40 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Re: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Addison. Once you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus ESCAPE, and are in Task Manager on the tab you wish, press JAWS key plus ALT plus W. You must hold down JAWS key plus ALT, and press W. This will put JAWS in Virtual mode, and you can then select all, and copy to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:34 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  and desktop computer window10  !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc  it’s take me to task manager  window page  When I arrow  through the items I press ctrl + a to select all  then press ctrl + c  it won’t copyselector   !! How can I copy all the item on task manager window page with jaws2020 ?

Addison


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Vaughn Brown
 

Thank you, Richard. Informative and well-cited.
Why disabilities benefit policies can improve will be the focus of my graduate thesis.
Best,
Vaughn


On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 Yes Kevin, it is really me.Are you thinking I know you outside of this list, or just questioning the source?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Richard is this really you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  and desktop computer window10  !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc  it’s take me to task manager  window page  When I arrow  through the items I press ctrl + a to select all  then press ctrl + c  it won’t copyselector   !! How can I copy all the item on task manager window page with jaws2020 ?

Addison

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